Sunday Morning QB- Mullen > JoMo edition

[Coach34]

1. Spent the weekend after our Friday night win with the girlfriend in Vburg. Spent Saturday at the Ameristar sportsbook and got to talk with the golden voice of sports radio in Jackson- Hair Gel Jake Wimberly. RPO was not mentioned during the conversation. Ameristar has a cool set-up. Check it out. Special thanks to LSU and USC last night to make it a successful outing.

2. Hated losing that one. Not much else to say about that.

3. I saw a coach on our sideline last night that was overwhelmed and didnt know what move to make next. That is a very disturbing against Florida. I had that look on my face when facing Noxubee and Louisville last year. Mullen has had that look on his face a few times when we played Alabama. Most coaches do at some point. But to see that look- with this team- against a Florida team thats less talented? Holy shit. We have a coach that A) isn't using his talent correctly and B) has figured out SEC defenses are unlike anything he has ever faced before. And he doesn't know what to do about it.

4. Stop with the replacing Fitz BS. Thompson is struggling in practice and his reads arent very good. He isnt the answer. The answer is to recruit better WR's. We don't have WR's that can get open very often. We really cant throw slants or quick outs to them because they are smothered and dont catch well. Guidry dropping the simple pass on the 3rd play of the game to force us to punt is why Fitz is struggling. Mitchell dropping the sure TD on the post route is why Fitz is struggling. Plus the other drops is why Fitz is struggling. Deddrick Thomas is 5'7 and cant catch the pass right at his helmet is why Fitz is struggling. Putting Thompson in isnt going to fix that. Fitz threw an absolute beauty to Mitchell across the middle for a 1st down last night. It was placed exactly where it had to be for him to make the catch and the defender smothering him couldnt defend it. People seem to forget about those throws and focus on the throws he has to hurry because he is about to get sacked again. Talk about the throw he made sidearm to get the pass around the DE zeroing in on him instead. It's funny to me how much better Fitz was when he had Fred Ross catching 72 passes for him. He's not worse now- the WR's are. Penn State had a WR catch a simple route last night and outrun everybody for a 90 yard TD. Our WR's turn those types of catches into 8 yard gains. Fla had a true freshman catch a slant for a big 1st down. Our guys drops TD passes. It matters and hurts your QB's performance.

5. #RTGDF. I'm pro QB running the ball- but not having your QB with 20 carries while your 2 TB's have 12 carries combined. That's poor coaching. Poor offense. Poor gameplanning. This team is built to #RTGDF and we arent #RTGDF. Thats why we are struggling. 32 runs to 26 passes. Thats poor playcalling WITH THE TEAM WE HAVE ON THE FIELD. This team should be 66% run to 34% pass. Florida was good at DE but very average and smaller at DT. We should have had 45 carries and worn them down. But we didn't and we suck.

6. Speaking of plays- we ran 58 ****ing plays last night. 58. High school teams run that many on Friday nights playing 12 minutes quarters. Our offense is too damn slow. We bleed the clock down to under 5 seconds on almost every snap. That is just piss poor and too damn slow. (Penn State ran 76 plays last night btw). Watch our offense. Our Center has to stay squatted for 20 seconds every play. Our 2 OG's are down with their hand on the ground for 20 seconds. And we have to look over at JoMo the Magnificent to get his approval to go ahead. It's just not the way offense needs to be run in today's football. SEC defenses are eating it alive.

7. Our defense is pretty good because of our talent- but it's not great like it should be. Too many RB's slipping thru the cracks. Too many quick passes being thrown outside for 10 yard gains. We should be able to play a 5 man box some with a LB just on the edge of it to help clean up on the back vs zone runs and such. Right now- we cant do that.

8. Such a letdown this season has become. It doesnt get any easier Saturday. Not sure if I'm going or not now. It's time for basketball season. Moorhead better figure something out quick or he is going to lose this team and alot of fan support very quickly.

Hail State

[shoeless joe]

People wanting fitz replace look to me like they can't grasp the fact that moorhead just isn't as good at utilizing talent as Mullen was

[Commercecomet24]

Truth.

[Thick]

Good post, spot on.

[cheewgumm]

# 8 is spot on. I bet most State fans feel this HUGE let down.

[DownwardDawg]

Good post. Moorehead has lost a bunch of the fan base already. Last night was devastating for him after the Kentucky showing. I’ve talked to 3 season ticket holders today and they all dislike him very much already.

[Bothrops]

The slow offense may be our biggest problem when you think about it.

[chef dixon]

There is 0 reason to continue to play Fitz. We are staring 5-7 down the barrel regardless. Keytaon needs to take lumps now.

Yea our receivers suck but Fitz has no escapability or composure. The final play was so classic. Mullen and Grantham knew Fitz would shit his pants. They completely left our WRs open all over the field and he couldn?t even throw up a lob for a TD.

[HoopsDawg]

At least we can blame Mullen and the country club for the receivers.

[basedog]

Not saying Fitz needs to be benched, he needs to sit opening series and let Key see if he can get in a rhythm.

We have barely 400 yards of offense in two games, less than 45% completions. Fitz has run for less than 100 yards, he has not been sharp in the passing game regardless of the drops.

Key is 2-0 as a starter and played ok against OM. Saying Key hasn't looked good in practice, I bet Fitz hasn't been all world either. We need a boost and Key can't be any worse right now. Sometimes watching from the sideline can help.

Yes play calling sucks and I'm not buying all the blame on him. Fitz has taken a beating the last two games.

[Dawg61]

Key throws a more catchable ball. Fitz has an NFL arm but for shitty college WRs it's harder to catch.

[Coach34]

Key has played against 2 awful defenses and has not completed 50% of his passes

[HoopsDawg]

I guess if you don't know anything about football, you just automatically say play the backup. SMH.

[Dawg61]

Key has played against 2 awful defenses and has not completed 50% of his passes

Can Key run the offense faster than dried cement? Can he recognize the guy blitzing inside his mouth?

[dawgday166]

#3 I'm guessing could be any of our O coaches, but most likely one is Johnson. For coming from the Packers tho, Getsy not impressing me too much either. Actually in reality none of them are impressing me.

If this post had added play Aeris at least 75% of the snaps, it would have pretty much covered everything.

[msstate7]

I guess if you don't know anything about football, you just automatically say play the backup. SMH.

In their defense...

Conference only stats
Total offense = 201.5 yds 14th
Rushing offense = 80 yds 14th
Passing offense = 121.5 yds 13th
Yds per rush = 2.67 14th
Scoring offense = 6.5 ppg 14th

What exactly do we have to lose?

[chef dixon]

I guess if you don't know anything about football, you just automatically say play the backup. SMH.

What are you waiting for from Fitz? He has been here 5 years and this is what we are getting. The back up may suck, but I do not see how it benefits our program to continue to bring Fitz out there. What is he doing right now that Keytaon can not? It does not make sense.

[dawgday166]

Right now ... A career ending injury to our more-than-likely next year's QB.

[msstate7]

If we went to key, we may only score 7 and 6 vs sec east teams or go scoreless in the 2nd half vs sec east teams only gaining 53 and 46 yards. Oh wait, that's with fitz. I have no idea what to do about qb, but it's a huge problem right now

[Coach34]

In their defense...

Conference only stats
Total offense = 201.5 yds 14th
Rushing offense = 80 yds 14th
Passing offense = 121.5 yds 13th
Yds per rush = 2.67 14th
Scoring offense = 6.5 ppg 14th

What exactly do we have to lose?

A lot more turnovers. The offense has to change- it’s not the QB that’s the problem.

[msstate7]

A lot more turnovers. The offense has to change- it’s not the QB that’s the problem.

I know what the problem is... Moorhead

[Sacrifice]

We don't have a QB on the roster that can do what Joe wants. He's gonna have to adjust his offensive style to what we have and I don't know if he can do that.

One thing that's really worrying me is that ALL great coaches have the ability to get the best out of their players and team. I'm not seeing that with Joe. If something drastic doesn't happen, I see 2 more wins on the schedule.

[basedog]

Let's put it this way, can't hurt getting Key some snaps.

Btw 34, u did say our receivers were at least the problem with Fitz so same receivers Key was throwing to.

[dawgday166]

I know what the problem is... Moorhead

Ultimately it's always the HC's problem. Just like when Mullen hired Sirmon. You and the Mullenites blamed Sirmon but ... Mullen hired him. And Mullen's O was crap the first 6 games of 2016 too.

Like I said ... I was back on the Mullen bandwagon last year. And you right ... right now the problem ultimately is Moorhead but I also don't think the overall staff he put together is that good. Can they adapt and become better ... don't know and probably a couple at a minimum can't and should be let go after season.

[HoopsDawg]

In their defense...

Conference only stats
Total offense = 201.5 yds 14th
Rushing offense = 80 yds 14th
Passing offense = 121.5 yds 13th
Yds per rush = 2.67 14th
Scoring offense = 6.5 ppg 14th

What exactly do we have to lose?

It's not complicated. Fitz is not the problem.

[msstate7]

It's not complicated. Fitz is not the problem.

He isn't fixing the problem either though. This season is crap. I have no problem who we use at qb now, but key could be better next season bc of it.

[starkvegasdawg]

In their defense...

Conference only stats
Total offense = 201.5 yds 14th
Rushing offense = 80 yds 14th
Passing offense = 121.5 yds 13th
Yds per rush = 2.67 14th
Scoring offense = 6.5 ppg 14th

What exactly do we have to lose?

Passing offense could still drop.

[bluelightstar]

Fitz is not the only problem, but it's impossible to watch him play and think he's not a big part of it.

[HoopsDawg]

He isn't fixing the problem either though. This season is crap. I have no problem who we use at qb now, but key could be better next season bc of it.

It doesn't matter. If moorehead want adapt, we will continue to suck until we get better at WR.

[msstate7]

Oh, and these "practice reports" are sheet. We've been told all offseason how this staff is so much better than the last and we were gonna be total bad asses this season according to "practice reports"

[dawgday166]

Oh, and these "practice reports" are sheet. We've been told all offseason how this staff is so much better than the last and we were gonna be total bad asses this season according to "practice reports"

NOW THAT is VERY TRUE!

When watching Training Days - Rollin with the Tide I thought about all the glowing, gushing practice reports we'd been getting. I wondered then if we were working even remotely as hard as Saban working his team. Every report was how much better were were everywhere ... how great we were.. I thought c'mon, we gotta have some areas that need some improvement.

I personally want every coach from now on, including Moorhead, to say "We suck, we don't do anything that good. We got a whole lot to figure out and get better at". That's basically what Bear always said and Saban does same thing.

[Homedawg]

He isn't fixing the problem either though. This season is crap. I have no problem who we use at qb now, but key could be better next season bc of it.

We are going to suck next year anyway. And next year after 3 games the board will be begging for mayden or whoever. I'm telling you, kt isn't the answer to this shit show. Just isn't.

[msstate7]

We are going to suck next year anyway. And next year after 3 games the board will be begging for mayden or whoever. I'm telling you, kt isn't the answer to this shit show. Just isn't.

I think we will suck until we get rid of Moorhead

[MarketingBully]

In their defense...

Conference only stats
Total offense = 201.5 yds 14th
Rushing offense = 80 yds 14th
Passing offense = 121.5 yds 13th
Yds per rush = 2.67 14th
Scoring offense = 6.5 ppg 14th

What exactly do we have to lose?

Fitz had a 9.7 QBR last night too.

[msstate7]

Fitz had a 9.7 QBR last night too.

Fitz should've followed Mullen to Florida. Florida would be a handful with fitz

[MarketingBully]

I think we will suck until we get rid of Moorhead

This offense will suck until we have a QB who can run it.

[MarketingBully]

Fitz should've followed Mullen to Florida. Florida would be a handful with fitz


He’d still have to throw those slant passes and I don’t think he could this year. I don’t think this is the same Fitz we had last year. I think the injury screwed him big time. Think of this. He wasn’t even able to practice until what August? He’s regressed big time and I think that injury had more negative affect then we’d like to admit.

[msbulldog]

1. Spent the weekend after our Friday night win with the girlfriend in Vburg. Spent Saturday at the Ameristar sportsbook and got to talk with the golden voice of sports radio in Jackson- Hair Gel Jake Wimberly. RPO was not mentioned during the conversation. Ameristar has a cool set-up. Check it out. Special thanks to LSU and USC last night to make it a successful outing.

2. Hated losing that one. Not much else to say about that.

3. I saw a coach on our sideline last night that was overwhelmed and didnt know what move to make next. That is a very disturbing against Florida. I had that look on my face when facing Noxubee and Louisville last year. Mullen has had that look on his face a few times when we played Alabama. Most coaches do at some point. But to see that look- with this team- against a Florida team thats less talented? Holy shit. We have a coach that A) isn't using his talent correctly and B) has figured out SEC defenses are unlike anything he has ever faced before. And he doesn't know what to do about it.

4. Stop with the replacing Fitz BS. Thompson is struggling in practice and his reads arent very good. He isnt the answer. The answer is to recruit better WR's. We don't have WR's that can get open very often. We really cant throw slants or quick outs to them because they are smothered and dont catch well. Guidry dropping the simple pass on the 3rd play of the game to force us to punt is why Fitz is struggling. Mitchell dropping the sure TD on the post route is why Fitz is struggling. Plus the other drops is why Fitz is struggling. Deddrick Thomas is 5'7 and cant catch the pass right at his helmet is why Fitz is struggling. Putting Thompson in isnt going to fix that. Fitz threw an absolute beauty to Mitchell across the middle for a 1st down last night. It was placed exactly where it had to be for him to make the catch and the defender smothering him couldnt defend it. People seem to forget about those throws and focus on the throws he has to hurry because he is about to get sacked again. Talk about the throw he made sidearm to get the pass around the DE zeroing in on him instead. It's funny to me how much better Fitz was when he had Fred Ross catching 72 passes for him. He's not worse now- the WR's are. Penn State had a WR catch a simple route last night and outrun everybody for a 90 yard TD. Our WR's turn those types of catches into 8 yard gains. Fla had a true freshman catch a slant for a big 1st down. Our guys drops TD passes. It matters and hurts your QB's performance.

5. #RTGDF. I'm pro QB running the ball- but not having your QB with 20 carries while your 2 TB's have 12 carries combined. That's poor coaching. Poor offense. Poor gameplanning. This team is built to #RTGDF and we arent #RTGDF. Thats why we are struggling. 32 runs to 26 passes. Thats poor playcalling WITH THE TEAM WE HAVE ON THE FIELD. This team should be 66% run to 34% pass. Florida was good at DE but very average and smaller at DT. We should have had 45 carries and worn them down. But we didn't and we suck.

6. Speaking of plays- we ran 58 ****ing plays last night. 58. High school teams run that many on Friday nights playing 12 minutes quarters. Our offense is too damn slow. We bleed the clock down to under 5 seconds on almost every snap. That is just piss poor and too damn slow. (Penn State ran 76 plays last night btw). Watch our offense. Our Center has to stay squatted for 20 seconds every play. Our 2 OG's are down with their hand on the ground for 20 seconds. And we have to look over at JoMo the Magnificent to get his approval to go ahead. It's just not the way offense needs to be run in today's football. SEC defenses are eating it alive.

7. Our defense is pretty good because of our talent- but it's not great like it should be. Too many RB's slipping thru the cracks. Too many quick passes being thrown outside for 10 yard gains. We should be able to play a 5 man box some with a LB just on the edge of it to help clean up on the back vs zone runs and such. Right now- we cant do that.

8. Such a letdown this season has become. It doesnt get any easier Saturday. Not sure if I'm going or not now. It's time for basketball season. Moorhead better figure something out quick or he is going to lose this team and alot of fan support very quickly.

Hail State

Agree with every word. You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Coach34 again.

[Coach34]

Let's put it this way, can't hurt getting Key some snaps.

Btw 34, u did say our receivers were at least the problem with Fitz so same receivers Key was throwing to.

exactly- and Key can?t complete 50% of his passes against the awful defenses he has played against. What?s he gonna do Vs Auburn and LSU?

[msbulldog]

Why don't we use last years offence and defense? Everybody (almost) in the 2 deep have played in it and knows it. There is plenty of film around and our coaches better be able to pick it up! We returned 17 off a team that won 9 games with those schemes. Moorhead can slip his plays in a little at the time, hopefully improving on the product. there will be no breaking in period, because these guys will go back to doing what they have been doing. Moorhead needs to get the captains and other leaders on board with this and get their help implementing this. It's the only hope for this season.

[Dawgs87]

4. It's funny to me how much better Fitz was when he had Fred Ross catching 72 passes for him. He's not worse now- the WR's are. Penn State had a WR catch a simple route last night and outrun everybody for a 90 yard TD. Our WR's turn those types of catches into 8 yard gains. Fla had a true freshman catch a slant for a big 1st down. Our guys drops TD passes. It matters and hurts your QB's performance.

5. #RTGDF. I'm pro QB running the ball- but not having your QB with 20 carries while your 2 TB's have 12 carries combined. That's poor coaching. Poor offense. Poor gameplanning. This team is built to #RTGDF and we arent #RTGDF. Thats why we are struggling. 32 runs to 26 passes. Thats poor playcalling WITH THE TEAM WE HAVE ON THE FIELD. This team should be 66% run to 34% pass. Florida was good at DE but very average and smaller at DT. We should have had 45 carries and worn them down. But we didn't and we suck.

6. Speaking of plays- we ran 58 ****ing plays last night. 58. High school teams run that many on Friday nights playing 12 minutes quarters. Our offense is too damn slow. We bleed the clock down to under 5 seconds on almost every snap. That is just piss poor and too damn slow. (Penn State ran 76 plays last night btw). Watch our offense. Our Center has to stay squatted for 20 seconds every play. Our 2 OG's are down with their hand on the ground for 20 seconds. And we have to look over at JoMo the Magnificent to get his approval to go ahead. It's just not the way offense needs to be run in today's football. SEC defenses are eating it alive.

7. Our defense is pretty good because of our talent- but it's not great like it should be. Too many RB's slipping thru the cracks. Too many quick passes being thrown outside for 10 yard gains. We should be able to play a 5 man box some with a LB just on the edge of it to help clean up on the back vs zone runs and such. Right now- we cant do that.

8. Such a letdown this season has become. It doesnt get any easier Saturday. Not sure if I'm going or not now. It's time for basketball season. Moorhead better figure something out quick or he is going to lose this team and alot of fan support very quickly.

Hail State

About point 4. Oh, C34 you mean that time Fitz was so good that he led us to our first losing record in 7 years, and we were gifted a bowl game vs Miami (OH), which we tried desperately to lose. Gosh, I forgot all about that. He even had a 54% completion percentage so that would put him on par with a bad CUSA QB. That's amazing. I guess Fred Ross let him show off his true skills and his regression over the past 2 years is because our WRs suck. Not because Ross actually just was a great WR and made Fitz look much better than he actually is.
These WR don't have a clue where the hell ball will be placed or how hard it will be thrown. Honestly, I think Osirus was 17'ing shocked that the ball was even catchable, but there is still no excuse for dropping that pass. I suspect if Fitz made those things more consistent (placement and touch), we wouldn't be talking about drops. I'm know that you know that all of that is part of the relationship between QB and WR, and I for one am not convinced he's been putting in the work.

I 100% agree on 5-8.

[Dawg61]

Hope Key doesn't transfer.

[FISHDAWG]

I think we will suck until we get rid of Moorhead

^^^ this ... JoMo looks like a deer in an 18 wheeler's headlights ... the guy just doesn't have it

[Liverpooldawg]

1. Spent the weekend after our Friday night win with the girlfriend in Vburg. Spent Saturday at the Ameristar sportsbook and got to talk with the golden voice of sports radio in Jackson- Hair Gel Jake Wimberly. RPO was not mentioned during the conversation. Ameristar has a cool set-up. Check it out. Special thanks to LSU and USC last night to make it a successful outing.

2. Hated losing that one. Not much else to say about that.

3. I saw a coach on our sideline last night that was overwhelmed and didnt know what move to make next. That is a very disturbing against Florida. I had that look on my face when facing Noxubee and Louisville last year. Mullen has had that look on his face a few times when we played Alabama. Most coaches do at some point. But to see that look- with this team- against a Florida team thats less talented? Holy shit. We have a coach that A) isn't using his talent correctly and B) has figured out SEC defenses are unlike anything he has ever faced before. And he doesn't know what to do about it.

4. Stop with the replacing Fitz BS. Thompson is struggling in practice and his reads arent very good. He isnt the answer. The answer is to recruit better WR's. We don't have WR's that can get open very often. We really cant throw slants or quick outs to them because they are smothered and dont catch well. Guidry dropping the simple pass on the 3rd play of the game to force us to punt is why Fitz is struggling. Mitchell dropping the sure TD on the post route is why Fitz is struggling. Plus the other drops is why Fitz is struggling. Deddrick Thomas is 5'7 and cant catch the pass right at his helmet is why Fitz is struggling. Putting Thompson in isnt going to fix that. Fitz threw an absolute beauty to Mitchell across the middle for a 1st down last night. It was placed exactly where it had to be for him to make the catch and the defender smothering him couldnt defend it. People seem to forget about those throws and focus on the throws he has to hurry because he is about to get sacked again. Talk about the throw he made sidearm to get the pass around the DE zeroing in on him instead. It's funny to me how much better Fitz was when he had Fred Ross catching 72 passes for him. He's not worse now- the WR's are. Penn State had a WR catch a simple route last night and outrun everybody for a 90 yard TD. Our WR's turn those types of catches into 8 yard gains. Fla had a true freshman catch a slant for a big 1st down. Our guys drops TD passes. It matters and hurts your QB's performance.

5. #RTGDF. I'm pro QB running the ball- but not having your QB with 20 carries while your 2 TB's have 12 carries combined. That's poor coaching. Poor offense. Poor gameplanning. This team is built to #RTGDF and we arent #RTGDF. Thats why we are struggling. 32 runs to 26 passes. Thats poor playcalling WITH THE TEAM WE HAVE ON THE FIELD. This team should be 66% run to 34% pass. Florida was good at DE but very average and smaller at DT. We should have had 45 carries and worn them down. But we didn't and we suck.

6. Speaking of plays- we ran 58 ****ing plays last night. 58. High school teams run that many on Friday nights playing 12 minutes quarters. Our offense is too damn slow. We bleed the clock down to under 5 seconds on almost every snap. That is just piss poor and too damn slow. (Penn State ran 76 plays last night btw). Watch our offense. Our Center has to stay squatted for 20 seconds every play. Our 2 OG's are down with their hand on the ground for 20 seconds. And we have to look over at JoMo the Magnificent to get his approval to go ahead. It's just not the way offense needs to be run in today's football. SEC defenses are eating it alive.

7. Our defense is pretty good because of our talent- but it's not great like it should be. Too many RB's slipping thru the cracks. Too many quick passes being thrown outside for 10 yard gains. We should be able to play a 5 man box some with a LB just on the edge of it to help clean up on the back vs zone runs and such. Right now- we cant do that.

8. Such a letdown this season has become. It doesnt get any easier Saturday. Not sure if I'm going or not now. It's time for basketball season. Moorhead better figure something out quick or he is going to lose this team and alot of fan support very quickly.

Hail State

Unreal.......there is nothing to argue with there. It seems Moorhead HAS at least United our fan base.

[maroonmania]

The slow offense may be our biggest problem when you think about it.

Yep, even if you ran the ball every play its hard to wear a defense down when they only have to defend 58 plays. What I don't understand is that everyone raved about JoMo's offense at PSU. Was it run differently? Did they have this many checks waiting to get off a freakin' play?

[Coach007]

1. Spent the weekend after our Friday night win with the girlfriend in Vburg. Spent Saturday at the Ameristar sportsbook and got to talk with the golden voice of sports radio in Jackson- Hair Gel Jake Wimberly. RPO was not mentioned during the conversation. Ameristar has a cool set-up. Check it out. Special thanks to LSU and USC last night to make it a successful outing.

2. Hated losing that one. Not much else to say about that.

3. I saw a coach on our sideline last night that was overwhelmed and didnt know what move to make next. That is a very disturbing against Florida. I had that look on my face when facing Noxubee and Louisville last year. Mullen has had that look on his face a few times when we played Alabama. Most coaches do at some point. But to see that look- with this team- against a Florida team thats less talented? Holy shit. We have a coach that A) isn't using his talent correctly and B) has figured out SEC defenses are unlike anything he has ever faced before. And he doesn't know what to do about it.

4. Stop with the replacing Fitz BS. Thompson is struggling in practice and his reads arent very good. He isnt the answer. The answer is to recruit better WR's. We don't have WR's that can get open very often. We really cant throw slants or quick outs to them because they are smothered and dont catch well. Guidry dropping the simple pass on the 3rd play of the game to force us to punt is why Fitz is struggling. Mitchell dropping the sure TD on the post route is why Fitz is struggling. Plus the other drops is why Fitz is struggling. Deddrick Thomas is 5'7 and cant catch the pass right at his helmet is why Fitz is struggling. Putting Thompson in isnt going to fix that. Fitz threw an absolute beauty to Mitchell across the middle for a 1st down last night. It was placed exactly where it had to be for him to make the catch and the defender smothering him couldnt defend it. People seem to forget about those throws and focus on the throws he has to hurry because he is about to get sacked again. Talk about the throw he made sidearm to get the pass around the DE zeroing in on him instead. It's funny to me how much better Fitz was when he had Fred Ross catching 72 passes for him. He's not worse now- the WR's are. Penn State had a WR catch a simple route last night and outrun everybody for a 90 yard TD. Our WR's turn those types of catches into 8 yard gains. Fla had a true freshman catch a slant for a big 1st down. Our guys drops TD passes. It matters and hurts your QB's performance.

5. #RTGDF. I'm pro QB running the ball- but not having your QB with 20 carries while your 2 TB's have 12 carries combined. That's poor coaching. Poor offense. Poor gameplanning. This team is built to #RTGDF and we arent #RTGDF. Thats why we are struggling. 32 runs to 26 passes. Thats poor playcalling WITH THE TEAM WE HAVE ON THE FIELD. This team should be 66% run to 34% pass. Florida was good at DE but very average and smaller at DT. We should have had 45 carries and worn them down. But we didn't and we suck.

6. Speaking of plays- we ran 58 ****ing plays last night. 58. High school teams run that many on Friday nights playing 12 minutes quarters. Our offense is too damn slow. We bleed the clock down to under 5 seconds on almost every snap. That is just piss poor and too damn slow. (Penn State ran 76 plays last night btw). Watch our offense. Our Center has to stay squatted for 20 seconds every play. Our 2 OG's are down with their hand on the ground for 20 seconds. And we have to look over at JoMo the Magnificent to get his approval to go ahead. It's just not the way offense needs to be run in today's football. SEC defenses are eating it alive.

7. Our defense is pretty good because of our talent- but it's not great like it should be. Too many RB's slipping thru the cracks. Too many quick passes being thrown outside for 10 yard gains. We should be able to play a 5 man box some with a LB just on the edge of it to help clean up on the back vs zone runs and such. Right now- we cant do that.

8. Such a letdown this season has become. It doesnt get any easier Saturday. Not sure if I'm going or not now. It's time for basketball season. Moorhead better figure something out quick or he is going to lose this team and alot of fan support very quickly.

Hail State

First... You can't tell some people things like this. It's ALWAYS the QB's fault.

3- Yep. It's like he wants off the field.

4- Key will not be the starter next year. He would not have been for Mullen either. Fact. If Moorhead would put some of the bubble screens and TE passes back in, pick up the tempo, he would see the offense pick up. Then take those shots deep.

5- It's not just "run the ball". It's how you run the ball.

6- Mullen adjusted to our defense because their OL could not stop our DL. He did so by more bubble screens and quick passes. Moorhead decided to keep dropping Fitz back to wait on a slow developing play. The resulted in 6 sacks.


7- Agreed. We are not as good on defense as we should be. Schemes are not great.


8- Moorhead needs some advice from a veteran coach somewhere. He's lost right now.

[maroonmania]

We don't have a QB on the roster that can do what Joe wants. He's gonna have to adjust his offensive style to what we have and I don't know if he can do that.

One thing that's really worrying me is that ALL great coaches have the ability to get the best out of their players and team. I'm not seeing that with Joe. If something drastic doesn't happen, I see 2 more wins on the schedule.

QB is at MOST the 3rd worst part of the offense. The OL do not have a clue who and how they are supposed to block in this scheme and the WRs drop passes with regularity and are just not SEC caliber for the most part but we knew that in that we have very few WRs that had any other SEC offers. I mean its amazing when we have a WR get separation like Mitchell did on that deep play last night but it didn't matter because he couldn't catch it. After that you can start talking issues with the QB but its just like Dak with Dallas. When your OL is below par and your WRs are below par then you are handcuffed as a QB. The OL problem could be fixed by better coaching and simplifying the system but the WRs probably are what they are.

[maroonmania]

NOW THAT is VERY TRUE!

When watching Training Days - Rollin with the Tide I thought about all the glowing, gushing practice reports we'd been getting. I wondered then if we were working even remotely as hard as Saban working his team. Every report was how much better were were everywhere ... how great we were.. I thought c'mon, we gotta have some areas that need some improvement.

I personally want every coach from now on, including Moorhead, to say "We suck, we don't do anything that good. We got a whole lot to figure out and get better at". That's basically what Bear always said and Saban does same thing.

And apparently you need your coach to be a hard ass. Not sure JoMo is demanding enough from his players. The whole notion of coddling guys on the sideline that just did something totally stupid on the field just doesn't seem like what you need from your HC. There are times when your HC needs to chew ass.

[maroonmania]

I think we will suck until we get rid of Moorhead

At this point I certainly hope Lemonis turns out to be the real deal or the Cohen experiment as AD is going to go up in flames.

[tcdog70]

What happened to Whop? I thought He was the real Deal?

[msstate7]

What happened to Whop? I thought He was the real Deal?

Another dream we were sold. Whop will hopefully be good in time, but we were told here he was ready day 1

[HoopsDawg]

Another dream we were sold. Whop will hopefully be good in time, but we were told here he was ready day 1

Yes we were. I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't be better for us in the slot.

[BuckyIsAB****]

1. Spent the weekend after our Friday night win with the girlfriend in Vburg. Spent Saturday at the Ameristar sportsbook and got to talk with the golden voice of sports radio in Jackson- Hair Gel Jake Wimberly. RPO was not mentioned during the conversation. Ameristar has a cool set-up. Check it out. Special thanks to LSU and USC last night to make it a successful outing.

2. Hated losing that one. Not much else to say about that.

3. I saw a coach on our sideline last night that was overwhelmed and didnt know what move to make next. That is a very disturbing against Florida. I had that look on my face when facing Noxubee and Louisville last year. Mullen has had that look on his face a few times when we played Alabama. Most coaches do at some point. But to see that look- with this team- against a Florida team thats less talented? Holy shit. We have a coach that A) isn't using his talent correctly and B) has figured out SEC defenses are unlike anything he has ever faced before. And he doesn't know what to do about it.

4. Stop with the replacing Fitz BS. Thompson is struggling in practice and his reads arent very good. He isnt the answer. The answer is to recruit better WR's. We don't have WR's that can get open very often. We really cant throw slants or quick outs to them because they are smothered and dont catch well. Guidry dropping the simple pass on the 3rd play of the game to force us to punt is why Fitz is struggling. Mitchell dropping the sure TD on the post route is why Fitz is struggling. Plus the other drops is why Fitz is struggling. Deddrick Thomas is 5'7 and cant catch the pass right at his helmet is why Fitz is struggling. Putting Thompson in isnt going to fix that. Fitz threw an absolute beauty to Mitchell across the middle for a 1st down last night. It was placed exactly where it had to be for him to make the catch and the defender smothering him couldnt defend it. People seem to forget about those throws and focus on the throws he has to hurry because he is about to get sacked again. Talk about the throw he made sidearm to get the pass around the DE zeroing in on him instead. It's funny to me how much better Fitz was when he had Fred Ross catching 72 passes for him. He's not worse now- the WR's are. Penn State had a WR catch a simple route last night and outrun everybody for a 90 yard TD. Our WR's turn those types of catches into 8 yard gains. Fla had a true freshman catch a slant for a big 1st down. Our guys drops TD passes. It matters and hurts your QB's performance.

5. #RTGDF. I'm pro QB running the ball- but not having your QB with 20 carries while your 2 TB's have 12 carries combined. That's poor coaching. Poor offense. Poor gameplanning. This team is built to #RTGDF and we arent #RTGDF. Thats why we are struggling. 32 runs to 26 passes. Thats poor playcalling WITH THE TEAM WE HAVE ON THE FIELD. This team should be 66% run to 34% pass. Florida was good at DE but very average and smaller at DT. We should have had 45 carries and worn them down. But we didn't and we suck.

6. Speaking of plays- we ran 58 ****ing plays last night. 58. High school teams run that many on Friday nights playing 12 minutes quarters. Our offense is too damn slow. We bleed the clock down to under 5 seconds on almost every snap. That is just piss poor and too damn slow. (Penn State ran 76 plays last night btw). Watch our offense. Our Center has to stay squatted for 20 seconds every play. Our 2 OG's are down with their hand on the ground for 20 seconds. And we have to look over at JoMo the Magnificent to get his approval to go ahead. It's just not the way offense needs to be run in today's football. SEC defenses are eating it alive.

7. Our defense is pretty good because of our talent- but it's not great like it should be. Too many RB's slipping thru the cracks. Too many quick passes being thrown outside for 10 yard gains. We should be able to play a 5 man box some with a LB just on the edge of it to help clean up on the back vs zone runs and such. Right now- we cant do that.

8. Such a letdown this season has become. It doesnt get any easier Saturday. Not sure if I'm going or not now. It's time for basketball season. Moorhead better figure something out quick or he is going to lose this team and alot of fan support very quickly.

Hail State

He has already lost me. Hes not the guy. 6-6 with this team is a fireable offense

[preachermatt83]

I think we will suck until we get rid of Moorhead

U sir are 100 percent correct