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RougeDawg
09-22-2018, 03:02 PM
Clemson is grossly overrated and A&M played well above their talent level. A&M never scared me and today is confirming their Game with Clemson was a combo of overhype and over play.

Commercecomet24
09-22-2018, 03:03 PM
You are correct, sir!

MarketingBully
09-22-2018, 03:07 PM
Meanwhile the hype for this Bama team will continue to grow.

dawgday166
09-22-2018, 03:08 PM
Lol ... This just started. Still early.

WSOPdawg
09-22-2018, 03:09 PM
And after watching ALL of GA / Mizzou, dang I hope we get a shot at UGA this year (b/c we'll be winning the SEC Championship and moving on to the playoffs).

UGA wins 43-19, but they score 2 TDs in the 1st half off a punt block and a return INT. Then Mizzou had "worse-than-BearShark" coverage to allow 3 long TDs from Fromme in the 2nd half.

Also, not sure they have many that could start for us on D but it was probably their coaching schemes that appeared to have them in a non-aggressive mode. Not impressed with UGA at all.

IMissJack
09-22-2018, 03:09 PM
Just ran about a 50 yd run to the 15 of Bama

VandelayIndustries
09-22-2018, 03:10 PM
He looks pretty good so far

IMissJack
09-22-2018, 03:10 PM
TD A&M

RougeDawg
09-22-2018, 03:10 PM
Lol ... This just started. Still early.

His decision making is bad. Simply bad. He made one good run thus far. Maybe I eat my words but he can be rattled and easily beaten. Still not worried about them.

ShotgunDawg
09-22-2018, 03:11 PM
Bama's pass rush ain't there.

Is Nick gonna have to send more guys?

TNDawg35
09-22-2018, 03:11 PM
I don’t think Bama is who people think they are. I think they are overrated a good bit. They haven’t played anyone, and I mean ANYONE!!

mstatefan91
09-22-2018, 03:11 PM
Looked good on that drive.

dawgday166
09-22-2018, 03:12 PM
His decision making is bad. Simply bad. He made one good run thus far.

And you were saying ...

To start like he did and respond like that in that environment ... impressive.

RougeDawg
09-22-2018, 03:12 PM
He looks pretty good so far

When they only rush 4 he can hurt them or anyone. Pressure him or make him scramble and he goes ?deer I headloghts? mode.

IMissJack
09-22-2018, 03:13 PM
Bama's pass rush ain't there.

Is Nick gonna have to send more guys?

The coverage wasn't there on that TD pass.

MarketingBully
09-22-2018, 03:13 PM
Yep. Alabama’s defense is definitely their weakness of the two units. I like what Mond is showing you can do with a true dual threat against Bama’s defense.

RougeDawg
09-22-2018, 03:14 PM
And you were saying ...

To start like he did and respond like that in that environment ... impressive.

What exactly did he do there that Bama didn?t completely whiff on? That was Peter Sirmon esque defensive breakdowns that drive. Pressure him and Bama wins easily. I suspect they won?t play another soft drive like that last one.

They put pressure first two drives and he looked like shit. Last drive, no pressure and he looked good. Not difficult to see.

dawgday166
09-22-2018, 03:15 PM
When they only rush 4 he can hurt them or anyone. Pressure him or make him scramble and he goes ?deer I headloghts? mode.

Like when he was scrambling all night against Clemson?

ShotgunDawg
09-22-2018, 03:16 PM
Tua is a more athletic Kellen Moore. He's really good and accurate but he's kind of got a noodle arm.

dawgday166
09-22-2018, 03:17 PM
Hell if that was Bama DB they wouldn't even review it.

ShotgunDawg
09-22-2018, 03:18 PM
That penalty is too severe. Shouldn't be an ejection. Enough with this nonsense.

MarketingBully
09-22-2018, 03:18 PM
Gotta help Bama on that one. Smh.

mstatefan91
09-22-2018, 03:19 PM
Hell if that was Bama DB they wouldn't even review it.

Brandon Holloway says hello

LC Dawg
09-22-2018, 03:20 PM
I'm just not sure how these guys are supposed to play football if you get ejected on a play like that.

MarketingBully
09-22-2018, 03:21 PM
I didn’t think OL could push the RB anymore. Dumb ass Alabama OL did there.

mstatefan91
09-22-2018, 03:21 PM
I didn’t think OL could push the RB anymore. Dumb ass Alabama OL did there.

Yes they can

dawgday166
09-22-2018, 03:23 PM
Brandon Holloway says hello

Yep

Lord McBuckethead
09-22-2018, 03:27 PM
Yeah, that wasn't targeting. That guy wasn't defenseless. He lowered his head just like the defensive guy. If one was ejected they both should be.

Cooterpoot
09-22-2018, 03:31 PM
A&M is solid. Much improved. Will be a war with them.

dawgday166
09-22-2018, 03:33 PM
They gonna be tough. No walk in the park for us and they have bye week too.

RougeDawg
09-22-2018, 03:33 PM
Pressure him like that drive and he won?t beat you. Same as OM QB?s for the last decade. You let them sit back there and they?ll kill you. Pressure them and they Struggle.

dawgday166
09-22-2018, 03:35 PM
Pressure him like that drive and he won?t beat you. Same as OM QB?s for the last decade. You let them sit back there and they?ll kill you. Pressure them and they Struggle.

Pressure like that will get to anyone. Including the great Tua.

dawgday166
09-22-2018, 03:35 PM
Say it ain't so ... Bama got a holding call.

Cooterpoot
09-22-2018, 03:38 PM
Bama has turribull play calling

RougeDawg
09-22-2018, 03:40 PM
Pressure like that will get to anyone. Including the great Tua.

Have to get pressure with 4-5 guys. Not many teams can do that. We can do that. Bama can. LSU and Auburn can.

Neither of these teams scares me if we simply play to potential.

Liverpooldawg
09-22-2018, 03:41 PM
A&M is giving them all they want right now.

dawgday166
09-22-2018, 03:43 PM
Have to get pressure with 4-5 guys. Not many teams can do that. We can do that. Bama can. LSU and Auburn can.

Neither of these teams scares me if we simply play to potential.

Not sure yet. Still wanna see more out of our DBs.

ShotgunDawg
09-22-2018, 03:44 PM
Bama lacks the same DL they've had in the past and they aren't running the ball the same. I wonder if the Tua offense has made them less physical on offense

MarketingBully
09-22-2018, 03:46 PM
Bama has turribull play calling

Of course, they have two really shitty coordinators. That eventually will bite them in the ass imo as the season goes on into the CFP playoff. Looks like their defense is still weak against true dual threat QBs. If Fitz continues to grow in Moorhead’s offense, we may have a shot.

MarketingBully
09-22-2018, 03:49 PM
Not sure yet. Still wanna see more out of our DBs.

Our DBs have been doing fine except last week when we had a guy play in place of Peters who hadn’t practiced there the previous week. We’ve only allowed 2 passing TDs all year in 3 games. We will be okay.

RougeDawg
09-22-2018, 03:50 PM
Bama lacks the same DL they've had in the past and they aren't running the ball the same. I wonder if the Tua offense has made them less physical on offense

True. They don?t look as physical as past teams. With a QB like him scrambling the OL can?t get downfield quick. Maybe it ends up hurting them in the end since they are more geared up for smash mouth. Neither of these teams scares me at this Point.

That espn 11-1 record may be shifting soon if we handle our business these next two weeks. Winner In Tuscaloosa goes to Atlanta and playoffs. If Fitz keeps getting better we will be difficult to beat.

dawgday166
09-22-2018, 03:53 PM
Our DBs have been doing fine except last week when we had a guy play in place of Peters who hadn?t practiced there the previous week. We?ve only allowed 2 passing TDs all year in 3 games. We will be okay.

We haven't played a QB or good receivers yet either.

ShotgunDawg
09-22-2018, 03:58 PM
True. They don?t look as physical as past teams. With a QB like him scrambling the OL can?t get downfield quick. Maybe it ends up hurting them in the end since they are more geared up for smash mouth. Neither of these teams scares me at this Point.

That espn 11-1 record may be shifting soon if we handle our business these next two weeks. Winner In Tuscaloosa goes to Atlanta and playoffs. If Fitz keeps getting better we will be difficult to beat.

Big 12 Bama. The good and the bad

ShotgunDawg
09-22-2018, 03:59 PM
I actually like the way we match up with Bama. They're awesome but they've got cracks

If Hurts was their QB, I'd feel great. My biggest concern though is that they have 3 WRs that are better than our DB that would be guarding them. Our DL will have to play a hellacious game, but I think we can score

Commercecomet24
09-22-2018, 04:02 PM
Mond is a good runner but looks shaky in the pocket. Play contain on him and I just don't think he can beat a good team through the air.

BeardoMSU
09-22-2018, 04:12 PM
Watching Mond run on Bama gives me hope. Bama still has issues at LB.

Cooterpoot
09-22-2018, 04:14 PM
Offcials help AL so damn much it should be a crime.

Liverpooldawg
09-22-2018, 04:14 PM
Bama is about to bust this one wide open. They get the ball after the half too.

msstate7
09-22-2018, 04:18 PM
Bama lacks the same DL they've had in the past and they aren't running the ball the same. I wonder if the Tua offense has made them less physical on offense

And if it did, bad news for us. We match up well with physical teams... air it out finesse teams usually kill us

ShotgunDawg
09-22-2018, 04:25 PM
And if it did, bad news for us. We match up well with physical teams... air it out finesse teams usually kill us

True. Air it out teams can have bad days though whereas the overly physical teams usually are more consistent.

RougeDawg
09-22-2018, 04:28 PM
Anyone catch Bama PA playing The Purge siren on third downs?

bulldawg28
09-22-2018, 04:30 PM
And if it did, bad news for us. We match up well with physical teams... air it out finesse teams usually kill us

We match up perfectly with passing teams. Our DL will give them hell with one on one matchups

msstate7
09-22-2018, 04:32 PM
We match up perfectly with passing teams. Our DL will give them hell with one on one matchups

And their WRs will give our DBs fits. Beating bama has always depended on if you handle their defense though... fitz will have to be able to keep them from loading the box

DownwardDawg
09-22-2018, 04:37 PM
31-13 at halftime is an ass whooping. No matter how you sugarcoat it.

msstate7
09-22-2018, 04:38 PM
31-13 at halftime is an ass whooping. No matter how you sugarcoat it.

Yeah, it is. I really wish we didn't have to go there

RougeDawg
09-22-2018, 04:43 PM
We match up perfectly with passing teams. Our DL will give them hell with one on one matchups

This. A great DL masks DB insufficiencies more than the other way around. These are college QB’s who will make mistakes under duress.

dawgday166
09-22-2018, 04:47 PM
We match up perfectly with passing teams. Our DL will give them hell with one on one matchups

"Perfectly" is a little bit of a stretch IMO. I'll wait and see how our DBs progress in coverage and open field tackling.

Commercecomet24
09-22-2018, 04:48 PM
We match up perfectly with passing teams. Our DL will give them hell with one on one matchups

This! With great DL you can have just an average secondary and stop passing teams. The greatest QBS lose games more often because of pass rush than because of great secondaries

TUSK
09-22-2018, 04:49 PM
Watching Mond run on Bama gives me hope. Bama still has issues at LB.

most accurate post in this thread.

dawgday166
09-22-2018, 04:50 PM
Bama may not be as good as usual on Oline, but they'll win some of those battles against us.

RougeDawg
09-22-2018, 04:58 PM
A&M is who we thought they were. A Big 12 team dressed up in a SEC costume.

I wish we played Clemson this year. They aren?t anything special and if their DL has 3 1st round draft picks we have at least that many.

dawgday166
09-22-2018, 05:00 PM
A&M is who we thought they were. A Big 12 team dressed up in a SEC costume.

I wish we played Clemson this year. They aren?t anything special and if their DL has 3 1st round draft picks we have at least that many.

Lol ... Ok. You do realize they playing Bama at Tuscaloosa don't you? *

TUSK
09-22-2018, 05:01 PM
Lol ... Ok. You do realize they playing Bama at Tuscaloosa don't you? *

Damn, YOU got Hooked!!!!

dawgday166
09-22-2018, 05:03 PM
Damn, YOU got Hooked!!!!

Yeppers haha. Rouge is our version of Catfan73.

ETA ... Not saying we ain't better than TAM and maybe we can play with Bama but .. don't think either will be easy.

msstate7
09-22-2018, 05:04 PM
A&M is who we thought they were. A Big 12 team dressed up in a SEC costume.

I wish we played Clemson this year. They aren?t anything special and if their DL has 3 1st round draft picks we have at least that many.

I think we have a good team, but damn... I'm glad we don't play Clemson in the regular season. I'm worried about the teams we have now

RougeDawg
09-22-2018, 05:05 PM
Lol ... Ok. You do realize they playing Bama at Tuscaloosa don't you? *

Yes I do realize that. They are soft on defense and a finesse team. Aka Big12 esque.

TUSK
09-22-2018, 05:06 PM
Yeppers haha. Rouge is our version of Catfan73.

ETA ... Not saying we ain't better than TAM and maybe we can play with Bama but .. don't think either will be easy.

MSU vs A&M is gonna be a fun game to watch, IMO...

RougeDawg
09-22-2018, 05:06 PM
I think we have a good team, but damn... I'm glad we don't play Clemson in the regular season. I'm worried about the teams we have now

The DL Clemson showed in College station wasn?t what the hype machine had been talking about. I understand most of you probably didn?t watch it. I did. They didn?t wreak havoc like everyone expected.

Cooterpoot
09-22-2018, 05:08 PM
They dont look soft. Their offense is getting killed but tgeir defense is getting screwed by the offense and the officials. A&M is about the same on offense and better on defense. Mond is a good runner but tgat OL isnt great.

dawgday166
09-22-2018, 05:08 PM
MSU vs A&M is gonna be a fun game to watch, IMO...

May be more "fun" than I can stand ***

ETA ... Be interesting to see how LSU D does in BR against Bama.

RougeDawg
09-22-2018, 05:10 PM
Damn, YOU got Hooked!!!!

Hooked on what? I?d put Bama, State and LSU DLines ahead of Clemson at this point in the season. Maybe Georgia. Haven?t watched them much so can?t assess. Auburn is close on DL. They are just putrid on offense which will wear their DL out.

And as expected Bama hasn?t rushed only 4 since the A&M TD drive and they only have 3 FG?s since. Guess I?m crazy for noticing that early.

msstate7
09-22-2018, 05:10 PM
Did they just say very power arm talking about Tua?

msstate7
09-22-2018, 05:12 PM
State and bama better fix the punting. I'd take Ohio state over anyone right now on a neutral field

dawgday166
09-22-2018, 05:13 PM
Did they just say very power arm talking about Tua?

Danielson fellating Bama again. Tua has strongest arm in CFB. ***

RougeDawg
09-22-2018, 05:14 PM
They dont look soft. Their offense is getting killed but tgeir defense is getting screwed by the offense and the officials. A&M is about the same on offense and better on defense. Mond is a good runner but tgat OL isnt great.

Who doesn?t look soft? They are small as well. I left that part out of the Big 12 comparison. Until the high school scouts start ranking Texas players compared to true SEC players (defense in particular) A&M will continue to be a middle pack SEC team that ?recruits? really high. The Texas style of high school football does not translate well to the monster SEC defenses and physical play. I?ve been saying this since they entered the league, after people think they ?are the team? every season.

The A&M hype shouldn’t even be a topic after they’ve continued to do less with more. The only year they’ve even been relevant in SEC play was the year they had a once in a lifetime Heisman QB that masked their Big12 insuffisiencies.

Texas is similar. They recruit well but get beat physically. Same thing about Texas high school styles of play.

msstate7
09-22-2018, 05:14 PM
Danielson fellating Bama again. Tua had strongest arm in CFB. ***

Tua is very accurate, but I see Danny wuerffel. I don't think he's an impact pro

LC Dawg
09-22-2018, 05:17 PM
When Jimbo kicked the field goal to make it a 22 point game was he basically conceding?

MarketingBully
09-22-2018, 05:19 PM
A&M is who we thought they were. A Big 12 team dressed up in a SEC costume.

I wish we played Clemson this year. They aren?t anything special and if their DL has 3 1st round draft picks we have at least that many.

Clemson’s DL is legit. The problem is they have no depth once their first string needs a blow. That’s why A&M was able to come back in the second half. Doesn’t matter though because all of this shit is going to be decided on the field. The next few weeks will tell us all we need to know about everything.

msstate7
09-22-2018, 05:20 PM
Will Grier is a better qb than Tua. Better arm, better runner... just doesn't have elite talent around him. Tua is a really good qb, but he couldn't elevate an avg team to really good. He is good though, so he can effectively use bama's elite cast around him

dawgday166
09-22-2018, 05:21 PM
Tua is very accurate, but I see Danny wuerffel. I don't think he's an impact pro

We'll ... Not sure I'm ready to say that just yet. His arm plenty strong for NFL IMO.

MarketingBully
09-22-2018, 05:21 PM
Tua is very accurate, but I see Danny wuerffel. I don't think he's an impact pro

He’s not going to be developed there that’s for sure. As I stated earlier in this thread, these are the worst coordinators Saban has had since he has been at Alabama. It’s amazing how number 1 recruiting class after number 1 recruiting class can make ass coordinators look good.

TUSK
09-22-2018, 05:23 PM
Tua is very accurate, but I see Danny wuerffel. I don't think he's an impact pro

I'm not nearly a professional at judging NFL QB potential, but Trent Dilfer compared Tua to Aaron Rogers, FWIW...

I think that's a lil much this soon...

msstate7
09-22-2018, 05:24 PM
We'll ... Not sure I'm ready to say that just yet. His arm plenty strong for NFL IMO.

Maybe, Pennington made it. I wanna see him throw a 25-30 yard out with tight coverage. He throws to guys that are wide ass open

msstate7
09-22-2018, 05:25 PM
I'm not nearly a professional at judging NFL QB potential, but Trent Dilfer compared Tua to Aaron Rogers, FWIW...

I think that's a lil much this soon...

Aaron Rodgers? Lol... he is accurate as hell, but Rodgers can throw it 60 off balance

TUSK
09-22-2018, 05:25 PM
We'll ... Not sure I'm ready to say that just yet. His arm plenty strong for NFL IMO.

Yeah, I'm not sure where the "Tua has a weak arm." BS came from....

MarketingBully
09-22-2018, 05:26 PM
Can we all agree on one thing. Danielson is an idiot.

dawgday166
09-22-2018, 05:26 PM
Maybe, Pennington made it. I wanna see him throw a 25-30 yard out with tight coverage. He throws to guys that are wide ass open

You got me on that one now. It do help to have WRs plus talent around you that is so superior to everyone else.

MarketingBully
09-22-2018, 05:28 PM
So stay at Alabama and get shitty QB instruction plus not get developed at all but be able to play sparingly or transfer somewhere and be the man for two years. Seems like a simple decision to me. Transfer and go play.

msstate7
09-22-2018, 05:28 PM
Can we all agree on one thing. Danielson is an idiot.

He's just a homer. He covers the sec, and bama is the cash cow. He's doing was cbs wants

dawgday166
09-22-2018, 05:29 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure where the "Tua has a weak arm." BS came from....

I would judge it about like Montana's. Not in same category as Fitz tho .. but I will trade some heat for accuracy.

MarketingBully
09-22-2018, 05:30 PM
He's just a homer. He covers the sec, and bama is the cash cow. He's doing was cbs wants

He just said that Hurts should stay at Alabama because Dan Enos has a track record for developing NFL QBs. Yes, he said that.

dawgday166
09-22-2018, 05:36 PM
He just said that Hurts should stay at Alabama because Dan Enos has a track record for developing NFL QBs. Yes, he said that.

Danielson is an idiot and Bama homer.

LC Dawg
09-22-2018, 05:38 PM
A&M is paying Jimbo $75 million because they think they will win this game in a few years. I think they are going to be disappointed. He may win a few big games but I don't think he'll ever win the league.

ShotgunDawg
09-22-2018, 05:39 PM
I'm not nearly a professional at judging NFL QB potential, but Trent Dilfer compared Tua to Aaron Rogers, FWIW...

I think that's a lil much this soon...

That a dumb 17 comparison.

He's a more athletic Kellen Moore. Accurate, sees the field, instincts, etc but lacks next level arm strength when the windows tighten.

ShotgunDawg
09-22-2018, 05:40 PM
He just said that Hurts should stay at Alabama because Dan Enos has a track record for developing NFL QBs. Yes, he said that.

Danielson is an absolute biased idiot. That was the dumbest collection of words I believe I've ever heard on TV.

He literally thinks that everyone else's coaches suck

msstate7
09-22-2018, 05:41 PM
A&M is paying Jimbo $75 million because they think they will win this game in a few years. I think they are going to be disappointed. He may win a few big games but I don't think he'll ever win the league.

Maybe not, but he's way out gunned now. He's got a top 3 class right now, so he's doing something about it. He'll be good, but probably not good enough to beat bama. Who is by the way? Urban, smart, and dabo, maybe

TUSK
09-22-2018, 05:44 PM
Maybe not, but he's way out gunned now. He's got a top 3 class right now, so he's doing something about it. He'll be good, but probably not good enough to beat bama. Who is by the way? Urban, smart, and dabo, maybe

yup.

TUSK
09-22-2018, 05:47 PM
That a dumb 17 comparison.

He's a more athletic Kellen Moore. Accurate, sees the field, instincts, etc but lacks next level arm strength when the windows tighten.

Well, that may be true, 'Gun, but I think you are discounting his core and hip rotation as it uncoils vertically and stays in phase with his release....






*

LC Dawg
09-22-2018, 05:53 PM
Maybe not, but he's way out gunned now. He's got a top 3 class right now, so he's doing something about it. He'll be good, but probably not good enough to beat bama. Who is by the way? Urban, smart, and dabo, maybe

Freeze*****
I think A&M would be better off with a defensive minded head coach with a great offensive coordinator. They have looked like a soft Big 12 team since they've joined the league. I may be wrong but I'm just not sold on Jimbo.

RougeDawg
09-22-2018, 06:11 PM
Freeze*****
I think A&M would be better off with a defensive minded head coach with a great offensive coordinator. They have looked like a soft Big 12 team since they've joined the league. I may be wrong but I'm just not sold on Jimbo.

You better watch saying this. They?ll call you crazy around here for pointing out the obvious, even though the talking heads say something completely different.

With that being said. I still stand by the OP. Mond and A&M are who we thought they we?re. Well at least those of us who have known they were a Big12 team dressed up in SEC costumes. They always recruit well but the players they recruit are highly ranked against different styles of high school football than what is typically play across the true south. For them to every compete they?ll have to start pulling 75% of their classes from Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida and Georgia combined. Until then they?ll be what you saw today. Flashy at times, but fold like a cheap lawn chair against upper class defenses.

Again goes back to my Clemson point. Their defense isn?t what they hype machine said it was. They just don?t play anyone?s who will test it until they playoffs where they will be railroaded by whomever is their opponent in Semis.