ISeenItDawg

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[WSOPdawg]

Oooooh, yes please tell ???...

[Political Hack]

They're fun. He should post them here.

[Activated Alpha]

I couldn't find them

[Ari Gold]

Wow.. something is mentally wrong with Freeze.

[Liverpooldawg]

Screen shots? I would like to see someone ask him to his face, on camera, if the "escorts" were for him, recruits, or players. There aren't really any other possibilities. If we had any actual unbiased REAL media types in this state, looking at YOU Rick Cleaveland among others, it would have already happened. That it hasn't says all you need to know.

[gravedigger]

Screen shots? I would like to see someone ask him to his face, on camera, if the "escorts" were for him, recruits, or players. There aren't really any other possibilities. If we had any actual unbiased REAL media types in this state, looking at YOU Rick Cleaveland among others, it would have already happened. That it hasn't says all you need to know.

I believe the escort question you are posing is why he hasn?t gotten a job. A real investigation would have found the answer and exposed that this was a bigger crime. I also think it reveals why his marriage didn?t end. His firing was the negotiating leverage they used to stop the investigation from continuing to a conclusion that would have brought shame to more than just a university.

Call me a conspiracy nut, but the explanation we were fed, that he was calling someone for sex for himself just doesn?t jibe.

[KOdawg1]

Wow. That is crazy stuff.

He really must not be doing well. I mean to have a full out conversation with a random fan who is a rival of your former employer?

It sounds like he wants to say more but he knows it won't be good for him. Just best to fall on the sword Hugh

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[Ari Gold]

Freeze = Koresh

[Liverpooldawg]

I believe the escort question you are posing is why he hasn?t gotten a job. A real investigation would have found the answer and exposed that this was a bigger crime. I also think it reveals why his marriage didn?t end. His firing was the negotiating leverage they used to stop the investigation from continuing to a conclusion that would have brought shame to more than just a university.

Call me a conspiracy nut, but the explanation we were fed, that he was calling someone for sex for himself just doesn?t jibe.

Of course it is. The only place that can hire him without the local media asking that question is in Mississippi. There is only one place in Mississippi that would hire him. They CAN'T be that stupid. My guess is the national media WILL ask that question if he is ever a head coach again.

[Jarius]

I used to think that the theory of Freeze caking hookers for recruits was tin foil hat nonsense but that conversation makes it sound extremely plausible.

[Liverpooldawg]

I saw it elsewhere. Unreal.

[Quaoarsking]

Just for everyone's convenience:

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[I seen it dawg]

Many thanks Q. Saved me a shit ton of work

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Serious question. In these messages, freeze emphatically states he never cheated in recruiting. There was a charge about Freeze, Maurice Harris, and Walter Hughes being at a recruit's home together. Didn't Ole Miss plead guilty to that charge?

[99jc]

Never cheated or had knowledge? Your a 17ing liar and the Bible states liars will not inherit the kingdom of God.

[Dallas_Dawg]

No way that shit is real

[gravedigger]

Never cheated or had knowledge? Your a 17ing liar and the Bible states liars will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Where?

[FriarsPoint]

Where?

Well, not sure about the New Testament but, pretty sure ol Moses came down a mountain with some rocks saying something about bearing false witness.

[gravedigger]

Serious question. In these messages, freeze emphatically states he never cheated in recruiting. There was a charge about Freeze, Maurice Harris, and Walter Hughes being at a recruit's home together. Didn't Ole Miss plead guilty to that charge?

It?s just my opinion but:

1. He may have never done the cheating but he knows his fault lies in condoning it.

2. Om was fine with any charge that deflected the attention away from the actual truth here, namely that they were trading services for recruits for commitments.

3. Hugh was their ultimate scapegoat. The narrative that he was the source of the problem was all to easy for rival fans to run with and we did.

[gravedigger]

The meaning of that commandment to one not going to heaven.

[Political Hack]

No way that shit is real

Care to wager?

[99jc]

The meaning of that commandment to one not going to heaven.

Psalm 101:7

[Todd4State]

It?s just my opinion but:

1. He may have never done the cheating but he knows his fault lies in condoning it.

2. Om was fine with any charge that deflected the attention away from the actual truth here, namely that they were trading services for recruits for commitments.

3. Hugh was their ultimate scapegoat. The narrative that he was the source of the problem was all to easy for rival fans to run with and we did.

Fair enough. My opinion is this:

Hugh sold himself out to the Ole Miss machine through the Tuohy's/Oher in an effort to get a SEC coaching job. And it worked! The problem is working for Ole Miss in football is similar to working for the mafia in that it's hard to get out of that circle because they demand that their coaches cheat. Most coaches- like Tony Dungy- are not willing to blatantly do that. Hugh was. He got caught up in it- and their whole plan was to use Hugh's Christian persona as an excuse to explain why all of a sudden they were stealing five star recruits away from people like Georgia and Notre Dame and whoever else. But Freeze went completely over the top with it to the point where any Christian would see through it- and he's just keeping it rolling because that what he started out with. The thing is the Alabama/Georgia/Texas/Notre Dame and etc. are not going to just let Ole Miss come into their backyard and take recruits. That's why Ole Miss got in trouble.


Freeze absolutely without question in my mind cheated and he also knows how the whole machine there works. My personal belief is that the hookers were for both Hugh and recruits. So, he actually is being honest when he is basically saying that he got too big for his britches. Freeze was a scapegoat but at the same time Barney Farrar was even more of one. I think Hugh is playing nice because once the bottom falls out on Luke starting maybe Saturday he knows there is a good chance that they will bring him back. In many ways Freeze is their dream coach. He beat us, he won some big games, and he was big time into recruiting and playing the recruiting game which their fans love. He even took them to the Peach Bowl and Sugar Bowl which I'm sure offsets losing to Memphis. I'm 100% sure that Freeze is very connected with Ole Miss to this day and this "redemption tour" is nothing more than a fa?ade to try to redeem him.


The thing is- I don't know if the SEC will allow it. If they wouldn't let Saban hire him I'm pretty sure the SEC will frown upon Ole Miss hiring him again.

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[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Many thanks Q. Saved me a shit ton of work

Why didn't you keep it going and try to get more info before blasting it public?

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Psalm 101:7

Context, Context, Context. Cherry picking verses and making them stand on their on is one of biggest downfalls of Christianity. It is the main reason we have hundreds of denominations today. David the writer of Psalms is merely talking about his actual house here as he was about to become king. This was not God talking.

[Political Hack]

Why didn't you keep it going and try to get more info before blasting it public?

Seems like it went pretty far to me. I don't think Hugh was gonna say "you should've seen this prostitute though! She was so hot."

[yjnkdawg]

Fair enough. My opinion is this:

Hugh sold himself out to the Ole Miss machine through the Tuohy's/Oher in an effort to get a SEC coaching job. And it worked! The problem is working for Ole Miss in football is similar to working for the mafia in that it's hard to get out of that circle because they demand that their coaches cheat. Most coaches- like Tony Dungy- are not willing to blatantly do that. Hugh was. He got caught up in it- and their whole plan was to use Hugh's Christian persona as an excuse to explain why all of a sudden they were stealing five star recruits away from people like Georgia and Notre Dame and whoever else. But Freeze went completely over the top with it to the point where any Christian would see through it- and he's just keeping it rolling because that what he started out with. The thing is the Alabama/Georgia/Texas/Notre Dame and etc. are not going to just let Ole Miss come into their backyard and take recruits. That's why Ole Miss got in trouble.


Freeze absolutely without question in my mind cheated and he also knows how the whole machine there works. My personal belief is that the hookers were for both Hugh and recruits. So, he actually is being honest when he is basically saying that he got too big for his britches. Freeze was a scapegoat but at the same time Barney Farrar was even more of one. I think Hugh is playing nice because once the bottom falls out on Luke starting maybe Saturday he knows there is a good chance that they will bring him back. In many ways Freeze is their dream coach. He beat us, he won some big games, and he was big time into recruiting and playing the recruiting game which their fans love. He even took them to the Peach Bowl and Sugar Bowl which I'm sure offsets losing to Memphis. I'm 100% sure that Freeze is very connected with Ole Miss to this day and this "redemption tour" is nothing more than a fa?ade to try to redeem him.


The thing is- I don't know if the SEC will allow it. If they wouldn't let Saban hire him I'm pretty sure the SEC will frown upon Ole Miss hiring him again.


Since Freeze was not under a "Show Cause", I don't think the SEC or NCAA either one could tell Saban that he could not hire Freeze. I think the SEC Office, and maybe the NCAA Office, strongly recommended to Saban and the Bama administration that it would not look good for their football program, or the SEC hiring Freeze after what transpired concerning the OM recruiting violations, and Freeze's involvement, and his dismisal. I really believe if Saban and the Bama administration had pushed on forward that Freeze would be a member, in some capacity, on Saban's staff.

[Political Hack]

Since Freeze was not under a "Show Cause", I don't think the SEC or NCAA either one could tell Saban that he could not hire Freeze. I think the SEC Office, and maybe the NCAA Office, strongly recommended to Saban and the Bama administration that it would not look good for their football program, or the SEC hiring Freeze after what transpired concerning the OM recruiting violations, and Freeze's involvement, and his dismisal. I really believe if Saban and the Bama administration had pushed on forward that Freeze would be a member, in some capacity, on Saban's staff.

The SEC office has blocked a lot of hires without legal standing to do so. Schools typically know better than to piss off Birmingham. That's who sends them their paycheck.

[yjnkdawg]

One other scenario that may have been possible is that Freeze thought that he had not done anything wrong, in his own mind, as long as he was doing things to supposedly help the OM football program. This may seem far fetched, but I had heard this back when the investigation was winding down, before Freeze was relieved of his HC duties. When he has posted comments and spoken after the fact, he actually sounds like he thinks he did no wrong. Now the OM administration doing this to hopefully make their NCAA infractions, less than they should have been is not surprising though. They may have been told that the sanctions would be reduced if Freeze was no longer their head coach. Who knows.

[yjnkdawg]

The SEC office has blocked a lot of hires without legal standing to do so. Schools typically know better than to piss off Birmingham. That's who sends them their paycheck.


I agree, Hack. It would be just plain stupid for an SEC school to go against the wishes of the SEC Office. So as you say, they can basically block a hire without having the legal means, and authority to do so.

[Maroonandwhite]

So let's bring this thread full circle....ISeenItDawg, back to my original questions.....has Freeze responded to your DM about escorts for recruits? If so what was his response? A psycho like Freeze wouldn't dare leave a remark like that go unchecked.

Great work, ISeenItDawg! I'm amazed that a person like Freeze that has experienced so much in the past several years still engages people he doesn't know in a forum like Twitter or Facebook. I'm curious like spbdawg. What did he say about the escorts for recruits? Hugh seemed to dance around the escort issue with him. He had to have answered given his insatiable need to do so with everything else. Inquiring minds wanna know.

[bobtail bob]

I think the beaver is the kind of guy that can't keep his mouth shut. He's itching to blow the lid off the whole whore debacle and with a little prodding he would. Someone needs to poke him with " the reason you can't get hired is you were buying whores Hugh and you have basically admitted it with your silence on the issue ".
Matt Wyatt should ask him for an interview to clear the air

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[TrapGame]

I think the beaver is the kind of guy that can't keep his mouth shut. He's itching to blow the lid off the whole whore debacle and with a little prodding he would. Someone needs to poke him with " the reason you can't get hired is you were buying whores Hugh and you have basically admitted it with your silence on the issue ".
Matt Wyatt should ask him for an interview to clear the air

It could turn out to be like Tunsil's draft night debacle. That was legendary.

[Dallas_Dawg]

Care to wager?

It just seems too good to be true. How dumb can Freeze be?

[confucius say]

Freeze has a story to tell and is dying to tell it. That is obvious. Damn journalism is dead.

[jumbo]

Freeze has a story to tell and is dying to tell it. That is obvious. Damn journalism is dead.


He's been saying that since OM got the original NOA

[yjnkdawg]

Freeze has a story to tell and is dying to tell it. That is obvious. Damn journalism is dead.



I think the originator "on the wanting to tell the (our) story" was Bjork and then it was drilled into Freeze. So then Freeze had a story to tell too.

[NWADAWG]

My bible used the word swindler. Same idea.

Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,[2] 10nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10

ETA - Just for clarity - This is not saying that you will lose your salvation if you tell a lie. But those who have a life pattern of these issues might have never had the salvation part ironed out to start with.

[bobtail bob]

It just seems too good to be true. How dumb can Freeze be?



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[I seen it dawg]

No way that shit is real

Well it's from his blue checked twitter acct. I guess it's as real as social media can really be.

[I seen it dawg]

Why didn't you keep it going and try to get more info before blasting it public?

He's as thin skinned as any public figure out there but I highly doubt he's gonna come out and say yeah I did everything y'all say I did and corroborate the entire network. I didn't seek him out but jumped at the chance to just see if I could get him to do what he did. I guess you never know maybe he would have given up all the goods.

[I seen it dawg]

Great work, ISeenItDawg! I'm amazed that a person like Freeze that has experienced so much in the past several years still engages people he doesn't know in a forum like Twitter or Facebook. I'm curious like spbdawg. What did he say about the escorts for recruits? Hugh seemed to dance around the escort issue with him. He had to have answered given his insatiable need to do so with everything else. Inquiring minds wanna know.

I posted the entire exchange

[ScreenCaptureThis]

Context, Context, Context. Cherry picking verses and making them stand on their on is one of biggest downfalls of Christianity. It is the main reason we have hundreds of denominations today. David the writer of Psalms is merely talking about his actual house here as he was about to become king. This was not God talking.

bwahahahahhahahahahhahaha

Great point**

The entire bible is man?s recollection of events. God isn?t talking through any part. And if you believe God is talking in certain parts of the Bible but not others, have a run at the entire history of the Bible?s Application. Smh. The reason there are versions of Christianity and non-believers is because so many people insist on fairy tales and cherry picking instead of rational discussions.

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