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ShotgunDawg
09-11-2018, 10:02 PM
Pretty good stuff here from Feldman

https://theathletic.com/517541/2018/09/11/college-football-stanford-usc-mississippi-state-kentucky/

Charles Huff knows something about special running backs. The past three seasons, he coached Saquon Barkley at Penn State. A few months ago, I texted Huff to ask if he thought he had good talent to work with at Mississippi State, where he followed Joe Moorhead to Starkville as the Bulldogs' new run game coordinator/running backs coach. Huff mentioned he had one kid who he thought could be really special.

Kylin Hill.

That wasn't the name I expected to see since it was Aeris Williams who ran for more than 1,000 yards last year for Mississippi State.

But Saturday against a stingy Kansas State defense on the road, Huff's words looked prophetic. In the previous two years, no team had run for more than 223 yards on K-State. Hill rushed for 211 on just 17 carries and scored two TDs on the ground and a third through the air. Mississippi State ran for 384 as a team, averaging 9.8 yards a pop.

The 211 rushing yards are more than half of what Hill gained his entire freshman season.

"He has some unbelievable raw talent," Huff told The Athletic on Monday. "He's worked on everything that matters, and that also means the way you've got to eat, the way you go to class, the way you go to sleep, and he really bought in and started to change his habits. And then he bought in a little more."

Hill reshaped his body, trimming down from about 225 pounds to 212 when he came to training camp. Huff used Barkley as a teaching tool to develop Hill. He showed clips of Barkley as a freshman and then as a junior. Barkley was superb as a freshman, but there were four or five times when he got walked down on runs that could have gone for touchdowns. "He was quick as a cat and explosive, but he couldn't keep that top-end speed long enough," Huff says.

As a junior with more time honing his skills that included developing his long speed, Barkley had five plays of 80 yards or longer and seven of 60-plus.

Working on Hill's long speed will be the next phase. "We can't give it to him all at once," Huff says. This year, Huff said it was critical to amp up Hill's short-area quickness, which he says accounts for 90 percent of football runs. Two summers ago, Huff consulted with Penn State's track and field coach and asked what could the Nittany Lions do to improve their athletes" 10-yard burst and the 90-yard top-end speed. The answer to the former was some swimming pool work, so Huff had Barkley " and now Hill " do quick high knees as fast as they can for 20 yards in the water. Then in the sand pit, it means running 10-yard sprints full speed and getting to full speed as quickly as possible. It also means some "old-school" technique jumping rope for two sets of 100 reps after each weight training session to get their lower leg muscles and calves to fire quickly.

Barkley's evolution was enough to sell Hill, but Huff kept harping on the details of playing the position on the field to his backs, specifically urging them to create their own tool belt, whether that means adding a spin or a stiff-arm.

Huff also pulled five to 10 video clips of Hill to show the former four-star recruit that if he'd have been faster or a bit quicker, a 4-yard play could have been a 12-yard play or maybe a touchdown. His message: Everybody's grinding. And Huff was preaching grinding with a purpose.

"We don't tackle every day in practice, and I understand why," Huff says. "The art of tackling has declined. We have to be able to break tackles and get YAC (yards after contact). In our system and in today's game, you've gotta be able to change directions and be explosive. Look at the top backs in football " Todd Gurley, Ezekiel Elliott and Saquon " they stick their foot in the ground and they're explosive and do it with power. Kylin runs behind his pads and he explodes with power. He?s getting from the A gap to the C gap and running with power."

Kansas State's defense was a good test. Huff says he and his backs watched a lot of tape on the Wildcats and saw how well the team tackled, especially on the back end. He also gave Hill one more Barkley carrot, pointing out that this K-State game was going to be similar to what last year's Iowa game was for Penn State because it was against a tough, strong defense on the road.

"At some point you're gonna have to impose your will on this defense and take over this game within the framework of the system," Huff told Hill, delivering a message similar to the one he gave Barkley.

Last year, Barkley responded by rushing for 211 yards to go with 94 more receiving in a win against the Hawkeyes. This year, Hill responded to Huff's challenge by saying, "I've been waiting for this my whole life."

He went on to match Barkley's rushing total with 211 yards, and 108 of those came after contact.

TUSK
09-11-2018, 10:17 PM
?Gun, that Hill cat reminds me so much of This Guy:

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24552908

ShotgunDawg
09-11-2018, 10:20 PM
?Gun, that Hill cat reminds me so much of This Guy:

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24552908

Pretty similar. I can see it

dawgday166
09-11-2018, 10:45 PM
?Gun, that Hill cat reminds me so much of This Guy:

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24552908

Hill is easily better **

Lord McBuckethead
09-11-2018, 11:30 PM
Rewatched the Kstate game again. Kylin is amazing. Dude is for real. He keeps preparing like he has been, could be our first Heisman winner. Telling you, keep bringing it Kylin. Moorheads going to feature you man.

TUSK
09-11-2018, 11:49 PM
Hill is easily better **

Get those sarcastics off that hook, dammit!

Pit Bull
09-12-2018, 12:42 AM
If Hill goes pro next year....we may be SOL at the RB position.

dawgday166
09-12-2018, 06:18 AM
Get those sarcastics off that hook, dammit!

LOL. Started not to put them on there ... figured that would slow down your nibbling some. Over an hour of swimming around eyeballing it SMH. What kind of defender of Bama honor are you? ... does Bama have honor?? :confused:

Didn't want to jinx the kid or be like the majority of our fans who seem to think he's in the conversation for GOAT at MSU, after 1 really good game against a lower-tier Big 12 team. Kylin better than Herschel and Bo now*** Him and Key ... GOATs at MSU ***

I hope both turn out as the GOATs, but not ready to say that just yet tho.

ShotgunDawg
09-12-2018, 07:42 AM
If Hill goes pro next year....we may be SOL at the RB position.

It's scary and why we must land a big time back in this class.

This coaching staff has not yet shown the ability to flip or reverse momentum in recruiting though. So I'm skeptical if they can do it.

BulldogDX55
09-12-2018, 09:06 AM
If Hill goes pro next year....we may be SOL at the RB position.

He can't. He's a true Soph. We have him for one more year no matter what.

ShotgunDawg
09-12-2018, 09:14 AM
He can't. He's a true Soph. We have him for one more year no matter what.

That's why he said "next" year

We have to land a big time RB this year or we will likely be starting a true FR in 2020 at the position

BigEasyDawg
09-12-2018, 09:39 AM
I think Charles Huff was the best hire of all of Moorhead's. He has true Head coach potential and is an incredible recruiter. A coach that can take unbelievable raw talent and turn it into what we saw out of Barkley and now Hill is incredible.

I also see Kylin Hill desire to be GREAT, which is something that is missing from many 4 and 5 star recruits these days. They simply out talented people in high school and then get to college and not be able to do that as much so they just coast by (see all of UNM's big time recruits).

Ifyouonlyknew
09-12-2018, 09:40 AM
That's why he said "next" year

We have to land a big time RB this year or we will likely be starting a true FR in 2020 at the position

I think we sign a good RB this year. I think we sign an elite RB next year.

ShotgunDawg
09-12-2018, 09:43 AM
I think Charles Huff was the best hire of all of Moorhead's. He has true Head coach potential and is an incredible recruiter. A coach that can take unbelievable raw talent and turn it into what we saw out of Barkley and now Hill is incredible.

I also see Kylin Hill desire to be GREAT, which is something that is missing from many 4 and 5 star recruits these days. They simply out talented people in high school and then get to college and not be able to do that as much so they just coast by (see all of UNM's big time recruits).

Huff is a great hire. I'll wait to call him a great recruiter when he actually lands a great RB.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
09-12-2018, 11:20 AM
I think we sign a good RB this year. I think we sign an elite RB next year.

You really think we get Tyree?

tcdog70
09-12-2018, 11:26 AM
If you watch Hill run notice the way he uses his off ball arm to break tackles. he has a good stiff arm, but the way he brings that off ball arm down through the tacklers arm is impressive.

Johnson85
09-12-2018, 11:43 AM
I think we sign a good RB this year. I think we sign an elite RB next year.

You talking about somebody we have an in with, or are you just thinking that we're going to be that much more attractive after Hill has been showcased this year and next?

hacker
09-12-2018, 11:47 AM
You talking about somebody we have an in with, or are you just thinking that we're going to be that much more attractive after Hill has been showcased this year and next?

This guy is visiting this weekend: https://247sports.com/Player/Chris-Tyree-85374/

lastmajordog
09-12-2018, 12:17 PM
That's why he said "next" year

We have to land a big time RB this year or we will likely be starting a true FR in 2020 at the position

BUTTTT.....he won’t know how to pass block...!!!!

ShotgunDawg
09-12-2018, 12:31 PM
This guy is visiting this weekend: https://247sports.com/Player/Chris-Tyree-85374/

He'll be awesome at UGA I'm sure*

gravedigger
09-12-2018, 12:45 PM
This guy is visiting this weekend: https://247sports.com/Player/Chris-Tyree-85374/

Looks impressive. Runs smoothly. Has good vision. Of course, do not discount that his line was creating huge holes.

He needs some weight put on.

TUSK
09-12-2018, 01:41 PM
Looks impressive. Runs smoothly. Has good vision. Of course, do not discount that his line was creating huge holes.

He needs some weight put on.

Or, he could trim down 10# and be a "3rd and short" RB specialist*.

gravedigger
09-12-2018, 01:44 PM
Or, he could trim down 10# and be a "3rd and short" RB specialist*.

Thank you Dan.

Pit Bull
09-12-2018, 01:46 PM
He can't. He's a true Soph. We have him for one more year no matter what.

That's what I said......next year.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
09-12-2018, 02:02 PM
This guy is visiting this weekend: https://247sports.com/Player/Chris-Tyree-85374/

You don't say......





You really think we get Tyree?

hacker
09-12-2018, 02:28 PM
You don't say......

Congrats on your internet prowess

Ifyouonlyknew
09-12-2018, 02:49 PM
You really think we get Tyree?

I think we have a legit shot. I think between Huff & Kylin #'s we'll get an elite guy. I hope it's Tyree.

Bubb Rubb
09-12-2018, 04:58 PM
Huff is a great hire. I'll wait to call him a great recruiter when he actually lands a great RB.

Kylin Hill is our best RB recruiter right now. Every time he touches the ball, high school RBs see how successful they can be on Moorhead's system.

Cowbell
09-12-2018, 09:18 PM
Kylin Hill is our best RB recruiter right now. Every time he touches the ball, high school RBs see how successful they can be on Moorhead's system.

The whole dunk contest thing only makes it more attractive in terms of the fun our staff has with the guys.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
09-13-2018, 08:26 AM
Congrats on your internet prowess

TY ST

Dawg-gone-dawgs
09-13-2018, 08:30 AM
Looks impressive. Runs smoothly. Has good vision. Of course, do not discount that his line was creating huge holes.

He needs some weight put on.

Just for comparison Bryce Love was 5'10" 180 coming out of HS. Chris Tyree is 5'9" 175 right now.

Pit Bull
09-13-2018, 10:47 AM
BUTTTT.....he won?t know how to pass block...!!!!

He better learn or stay in school and get a degree he can use.