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Coach007
09-09-2018, 04:32 PM
They are seeing it used with Newton right now and the Whole of the Dallas defense is caught off guard.

DownwardDawg
09-09-2018, 04:36 PM
He better run or he won't survive the season. He's getting killed.

mparkerfd20
09-09-2018, 04:44 PM
Dak should have played more in preseason. He looks like shit today

Coach007
09-09-2018, 04:44 PM
He better run or he won't survive the season. He's getting killed.

Yep!

Commercecomet24
09-09-2018, 04:47 PM
Play calling and game plan is crap. Nothing but zeke runs or screens. Carolina just stacking the los.

MaroonFlounder
09-09-2018, 04:49 PM
This is his money year, but he is jeopardizing his next contract. He looks terrible. He just now had a 1st down if he runs it, he decides to throw it into the ground at a wide open jasper's feet for the incompletion.

Coach007
09-09-2018, 04:50 PM
Play calling and game plan is crap. Nothing but zeke runs or screens. Carolina just stacking the los.

It's been very conservative. I also don't think Zeke is as great as he thinks.

Coach007
09-09-2018, 04:51 PM
This is his money year, but he is jeopardizing his next contract. He looks terrible. He just now had a 1st down if he runs it, he decides to throw it into the ground at a wide open jasper's feet for the incompletion.

Had they put some runs in in his rookie year, they would have won the Super Bowl. But they eased that out.

Dawg2003
09-09-2018, 04:52 PM
Maybe he can go into broadcasting like Tim Tebow.

Commercecomet24
09-09-2018, 04:52 PM
It's been very conservative. I also don't think Zeke is as great as he thinks.

Agreed. Doesn't take a genius dc to stop the cowboys offense right now. No creativity at all.

ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 04:52 PM
Dak has absolutely no weapons in the pass game.

It's the most horrendously built offense for a young QB.

BeardoMSU
09-09-2018, 04:53 PM
Maybe he can go into broadcasting like Tim Tebow.

lol.

Coach007
09-09-2018, 04:53 PM
Zeke 7 carries for 18 yards...

Commercecomet24
09-09-2018, 04:53 PM
Dak has absolutely no weapons in the pass game.

It's the most horrendously built offense for a young QB.

You nailed it! Zero weapons. It's on him and zeke.

Bully13
09-09-2018, 04:53 PM
Paying my dues to Sports God today after yesterday's game. Dak losing to Scam. Saints giving up 48 to boot.

Totally convinced as long as Dallas is owned by Jeruh, they will be shit and never get better.

Price worth paying though after yesterday's game.

Coach007
09-09-2018, 04:55 PM
Paying my dues to Sports God today after yesterday's game. Dak losing to Scam. Saints giving up 48 to boot.

Price worth paying though after yesterday's game.

Thank you for your sacrifice!

ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 04:55 PM
You nailed it! Zero weapons. It's on him and zeke.

You can't run an NFL offense where every route is within 5 yards of the LOS

Commercecomet24
09-09-2018, 04:56 PM
You can't run an NFL offense where every route is within 5 yards of the LOS

Yep. This is the worst offense design I've seen since croom.

IMissJack
09-09-2018, 04:58 PM
They are seeing it used with Newton right now and the Whole of the Dallas defense is caught off guard.
When will they learn to get some receivers?

ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 05:00 PM
Yep. This is the worst offense design I've seen since croom.

The media will go crazy on Dak but I'm not sure what he's supposed to do.

Sure, he could've made a better throw where he threw it low on the scramble but the receiver ran right into coverage. Had he just stopped, he would've been wide open. The guy ran right into the oncoming safety. If Dak puts that ball on Target, the receiver gets killed.

Coach007
09-09-2018, 05:00 PM
Yeah, I get that he needs more weapons, but use the weapons you have.


Newton already has 60 yards rushing.


It would open up Zeke and the passing more.

Leeshouldveflanked
09-09-2018, 05:10 PM
I hope Dak has saved his $$$....

BeardoMSU
09-09-2018, 05:10 PM
Yeah, I get that he needs more weapons, but use the weapons you have.


Newton already has 60 yards rushing.


It would open up Zeke and the passing more.

Dude, Dak can only run the plays the OC calls for him. Those runs by Cam were options, where he read the DE, waited on him to crash (which they did every single time), and he takes off. The Dallas offensive scheme is total shit, and it's less to do with Dak and Zeke as it is the morons on the sidelines wearing headsets.

ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 05:11 PM
Yeah, I get that he needs more weapons, but use the weapons you have.


Newton already has 60 yards rushing.


It would open up Zeke and the passing more.

Dallas' offense has the same proble Mullen's offense has. When they don't respect your deep ball, everyone plays up.

ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 05:12 PM
I hope Dak has saved his $$$....

If you watched Buffalo today, you'd realize that no matter what, Dak will be playing in the NFL for a really long time.

Coach007
09-09-2018, 05:12 PM
Dude, Dak can only run the plays the OC calls for him. Those runs by Cam were options, where he read the DE, waited on him to crash (which they did every single time), and he takes off. The Dallas offensive scheme is total shit, and it's less to do with Dak and Zeke as it is the morons on the sidelines wearing headsets.

Dude... I understand and that is what I am saying.

Bothrops
09-09-2018, 05:14 PM
Dallas sucks and their people don't seem to care.

Commercecomet24
09-09-2018, 05:22 PM
The media will go crazy on Dak but I'm not sure what he's supposed to do.

Sure, he could've made a better throw where he threw it low on the scramble but the receiver ran right into coverage. Had he just stopped, he would've been wide open. The guy ran right into the oncoming safety. If Dak puts that ball on Target, the receiver gets killed.

I agree. No weapons, poor game plan, poor play calling. There's just not a lot of options for dak. I don't even think Brady could make this crap work

Pit Bull
09-09-2018, 05:23 PM
This is his money year, but he is jeopardizing his next contract. He looks terrible. He just now had a 1st down if he runs it, he decides to throw it into the ground at a wide open jasper's feet for the incompletion.

Yep....not going to be a lot of money on that next contract. Keep playing like this and if Dallas tanks.....they will be looking to draft a hotshot QB next year. It also appears to me Witten and Bryant were never replaced with anything close to them. The defense wasn't playing bad, but you can't keep them out there on the field nonstop.

ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 05:23 PM
Yikes. Dak way off target.

Come on Dak

Coach007
09-09-2018, 05:23 PM
That is the first run where Dak pulled a LB

Commercecomet24
09-09-2018, 05:25 PM
Run a zone read and it's best play of the day. Go figure

ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 05:27 PM
Still no routes downfield.

ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 05:27 PM
Run a zone read and it's best play of the day. Go figure

Newton doesn't throw any better than Dak, but Carolina runs him and lets him be dynamic

Homedawg
09-09-2018, 05:29 PM
I hope Dak has saved his $$$....

Another crazy comment by you. He's not about to get cut. He's run for his lif today. They've been 2 and 3rd and long all day. And as others have said, not a good plan.

Homedawg
09-09-2018, 05:30 PM
Newton doesn't throw any better than Dak, but Carolina runs him and lets him be dynamic

This is true. Newton isn't a good passer by any stretch

Homedawg
09-09-2018, 05:31 PM
If you watched Buffalo today, you'd realize that no matter what, Dak will be playing in the NFL for a really long time.

You can't explain much to him.

ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 05:32 PM
I'll say this, I think Dallas' defense is pretty good. They'll be in a lot of games.

Commercecomet24
09-09-2018, 05:34 PM
Newton doesn't throw any better than Dak, but Carolina runs him and lets him be dynamic

Right on. Newton is not a great passer and I don't think he reads defenses well at all but they let him use his skills and athleticism to win games.

Commercecomet24
09-09-2018, 05:38 PM
Jason Garrett coaches not to lose. No aggressiveness from him or his team.

ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 05:38 PM
Horrendous holding call on Dallas. Sheesh

ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 05:38 PM
Jason Garrett coaches not to lose. No aggressiveness from him or his team.

He sucks. If he were fired tomorrow, no other NFL team would hire him as a HC. What does that tell you?

Commercecomet24
09-09-2018, 05:42 PM
He sucks. If he were fired tomorrow, no other NFL team would hire him as a HC. What does that tell you?

Exactly! Most Dallas fans hate him but he's a yes boy for the jones family.

ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 05:42 PM
Can't believe Elliott went down there

Commercecomet24
09-09-2018, 05:43 PM
Bet they wish they hadn't let dan bailey go now. Another stupid personnel decision by the cowboys

Commercecomet24
09-09-2018, 05:44 PM
I'm having croom flashbacks watching Dallas!

WeWonItAll(Most)
09-09-2018, 05:46 PM
If it's 3rd and 8+ then Dallas doesn't even try to get the 1st down.

ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 05:46 PM
The offense the Panthers are running is the offense Dallas should be running. Nothing close though.

Cooterpoot
09-09-2018, 05:49 PM
Dallas can’t fire the sorry ass owner. And that’s the problem.

MoreCowbell
09-09-2018, 05:50 PM
The Cowboys just have a shitty roster. I hope the organization knows this and still rides with Dak after this year because with those receivers he wont have a good season. That aint the 2016 OL either

Commercecomet24
09-09-2018, 05:52 PM
Dallas can’t fire the sorry ass owner. And that’s the problem.

Yep. He's been the problem for quite awhile now.

ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 05:59 PM
The Cowboys just have a shitty roster. I hope the organization knows this and still rides with Dak after this year because with those receivers he wont have a good season. That aint the 2016 OL either

Especially since their All Pro center has a disease

ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 06:02 PM
Dak has to keep a zone read at some point. It's wide open.

Commercecomet24
09-09-2018, 06:03 PM
Dak willed them to that td.

ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 06:05 PM
Why did it take Dallas 3+ quarters to start running some option/draw type plays?

Commercecomet24
09-09-2018, 06:07 PM
Why did it take Dallas 3+ quarters to start running some option/draw type plays?

Good question. It makes Dallas a lot more dangerous.

ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 06:18 PM
Alright Dak. Let's go

ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 06:19 PM
Dak is so much better when Dallas let's him find rhythm

ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 06:26 PM
Is Dallas' OL good or is that just a narrative that is still alive from 2 years ago?

BeardoMSU
09-09-2018, 06:27 PM
Through his hands, smh.

BeardoMSU
09-09-2018, 06:27 PM
Is Dallas' OL good or is that just a narrative that is still alive from 2 years ago?

They aren't.

ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 06:31 PM
Dak has better stats in this game than Cam. More yards, completions, & QB rating. Yet one will be praised & the other killed this week

Commercecomet24
09-09-2018, 06:32 PM
Dak been running for his life all day.

ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 06:33 PM
Dak been running for his life all day.

All day

Commercecomet24
09-09-2018, 06:33 PM
No ol,no receivers, just sucks

DownwardDawg
09-09-2018, 06:35 PM
It's gonna be a long year for Dak.

Commercecomet24
09-09-2018, 06:36 PM
It's gonna be a long year for Dak.

I'm afraid you're right.

Leeshouldveflanked
09-09-2018, 06:39 PM
Won’t be no big contract for Dak... Cowboys may not win a game....

Commercecomet24
09-09-2018, 06:49 PM
Heck Dak and Zeke all they got.

msstate7
09-09-2018, 06:53 PM
I don't like the cowboys, but writing a team off after 1 game is crazy. Saints were 0-2 last season, and almost made the NFC championship game. Saints were awful today, and I'm not panicking... you cowboy fans shouldn't either

parabrave
09-09-2018, 06:59 PM
Jerry had a good team 2 years ago. Didn't resign a couple of olinemen and not signing or drafting any top flight receivers and this is the crapfest we get.

Dawg61
09-09-2018, 07:32 PM
When will they learn to get some receivers?

Nobody wants to play for Jerry

Homedawg
09-09-2018, 08:21 PM
They aren't.

Losing Fredrick is a killer too.

Homedawg
09-09-2018, 08:22 PM
Jerry had a good team 2 years ago. Didn't resign a couple of olinemen and not signing or drafting any top flight receivers and this is the crapfest we get.

Who did they not resign? They let their worst one go and he signed elsewhere.

Homedawg
09-09-2018, 08:23 PM
Won’t be no big contract for Dak... Cowboys may not win a game....

Won't win a game?? My goodness man. And again, dak is going to get another contract. How big remains to be seen. Has two years to get it.

sonofozarka
09-10-2018, 03:13 PM
Well of course a Mississippi State message board would have 100% of its posts saying the problems lie everywhere else BUT with Dak. Hey maybe Dak is actually a bottom 25% QB in the league like a lot of people outside the MSU fanbase always thought he was.

As soon as something goes wrong, an OL that returns 4 starters (including Frederick if he ever gets back) that was perhaps the best OL of all time is labeled "terrible" on here. Everyone on here wants Dez and Witten gone last year and now that they are... uh guess what the WR's are below average.

Here's what's going on...As a rookie Dak was set up with the best supporting cast of any QB in the league and probably the best for a rookie QB of all time (Linehan's widely considered a top 20% OC also). Now that his supporting cast isn't as elite, we'll see who Dak really is

Cooterpoot
09-10-2018, 03:20 PM
Well of course a Mississippi State message board would have 100% of its posts saying the problems lie everywhere else BUT with Dak. Hey maybe Dak is actually a bottom 25% QB in the league like a lot of people outside the MSU fanbase always thought he was.

As soon as something goes wrong, an OL that returns 4 starters (including Frederick if he ever gets back) that was perhaps the best OL of all time is labeled "terrible" on here. Everyone on here wants Dez and Witten gone last year and now that they are... uh guess what the WR's are below average.

Here's what's going on...As a rookie Dak was set up with the best supporting cast of any QB in the league and probably the best for a rookie QB of all time (Linehan's widely considered a top 20% OC also). Now that his supporting cast isn't as elite, we'll see who Dak really is

That OL gave up 6 sacks and 10 hits on Dak yesterday. They suck. Zeke couldn't break 75 yards. Linehan is running an antique offense. Dak had no elite WRs his first year and Witten was no longer elite either. He had a great OL and adequate WRs at best. He doesn't even have that now.

Commercecomet24
09-10-2018, 03:23 PM
That OL gave up 6 sacks and 10 hits on Dak yesterday. They suck. Zeke couldn't break 75 yards. Linehan is running an antique offense. Dak had no elite WRs his first year and Witten was no longer elite either. He had a good OL and adequate WRs at best. He doesn't even have that now.

Rep Given! Same OL that gave up 8 sacks against the Falcons last year as well and that was with Frederick playing. The game plan and playcalling as you said is total crap, Croomesque. Amazing how in the 4th quarter when they started running some zone/read it opened up the run game and the passing game. Dak ran for his life on about 90% of dropbacks yesterday.

Cooterpoot
09-10-2018, 03:33 PM
Linehan should've been fired last year. Garrett too as far as that goes. Go watch what the Eagles do with Foles. That's what Dallas should be doing with Dak. Of course, Philly went big in free agency the last couple of years too. Something Jerry Jones isn't smart enough to understand. He's going to save his money for a almost washed up Earl Thomas.

Irondawg
09-10-2018, 04:02 PM
I think it's a mix. I think Dak is a decent NFL QB but he's more of a system guy that is as good as the people around him. That's not a knock necessarily, but the reality is that he's not an elite arm talent nor is he a gunslinger that can get really hot.

if I'm looking for the modern comparison he's a lot like Andy Dalton, but with a little more leadership charisma.

The roster management and playcalling has not helped him out at all though to be sure. Their WR corps the NFL equivalent to our Croom years.

BeardoMSU
09-10-2018, 04:34 PM
That OL gave up 6 sacks and 10 hits on Dak yesterday. They suck. Zeke couldn't break 75 yards. Linehan is running an antique offense. Dak had no elite WRs his first year and Witten was no longer elite either. He had a great OL and adequate WRs at best. He doesn't even have that now.

This. ****ing aye.