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Irondawg
09-08-2018, 02:09 PM
These delays are inexcusable

maroonmania
09-08-2018, 02:09 PM
We are just SO sloppy. Delay of game to cost you 5 yards on a freakin' FG try?

EdDawg
09-08-2018, 02:09 PM
We need to get Hill out of the game. No need for him to be in at this point.

Liverpooldawg
09-08-2018, 02:09 PM
That dback for KSU needs to be playing basketball. Those were some serious hops right there.

CadaverDawg
09-08-2018, 02:09 PM
Penalty negates 3 points

ShotgunDawg
09-08-2018, 02:09 PM
We are iiiiiiinnnnn trouble when SEC teams start loading the box. Ugh

Got a lot of time to improve

msstate7
09-08-2018, 02:10 PM
Our 11th penalty cost us 3 points

maroonmania
09-08-2018, 02:10 PM
Cost us 3 points for dumbassery.

Dawgology
09-08-2018, 02:10 PM
Cristmann 1-3 on the season.

Coach007
09-08-2018, 02:10 PM
sweet jesus!

ShotgunDawg
09-08-2018, 02:10 PM
Penalties and the passing game. And kick coverage. Biggest flaws

And we are up 31-10 on the road against a respectable program.

This team's ceiling is outrageous

MarketingBully
09-08-2018, 02:10 PM
So we played like shit on the road and still won 31-10. I’ll take it.

HoopsDawg
09-08-2018, 02:10 PM
christman is not very good from 40+. Now that penalty, delay of game, was a bad penalty.

msstate7
09-08-2018, 02:11 PM
Long time till that game Bro. I think we'll be significantly better by then.

It's dangerous to jump to conclusions too early in a new offense.

To be fair, I think everyone in the sec struggles vs the LSU defense.

KOdawg1
09-08-2018, 02:11 PM
Bad snap on the kick. We've looked terrible today, but we're still up big. This is a weird game for sure

Pollodawg
09-08-2018, 02:11 PM
I?ve seen nothing that makes me think we?re anything other than an 8-9 win team. Fitz looks completely uncomfortable back there, and his arm has regressed big time.

Matt3467
09-08-2018, 02:11 PM
So is Fitz's play due more to rust or is he just garbage throwing in general?

Bdawg
09-08-2018, 02:11 PM
Really getting sick of this pre snap bullshit penalties. Run your damn kicker out there and get it done on time. 3 points lost and now misses start getting in your kickers head.

ShotgunDawg
09-08-2018, 02:11 PM
So we played like shit on the road and still won 31-10. I’ll take it.

It's displays the ceiling of this team.

We were all lying to ourselves if we thought there wouldn't be some growing pains with a new staff.

starkvegasdawg
09-08-2018, 02:12 PM
Glad we're winning this game but not happy about how we played in areas. So much more athletic and talented than KSU, but lack of discipline and less than average QB play has kept this from being a complete blowout.

HoopsDawg
09-08-2018, 02:12 PM
Cristmann 1-3 on the season.

isn't he like 4-10 on his last 10 kicks?

maroonmania
09-08-2018, 02:12 PM
christman is not very good from 40+. Now that penalty, delay of game, was a bad penalty.

Well his first kick would have easily been good from 45+ but of course he botches the one that counts.

msstate7
09-08-2018, 02:13 PM
And we are up 31-10 on the road against a respectable program.

This team's ceiling is outrageous

LSU stomped Miami. Bama is bama. Auburn beat a better opponent than KSU. These penalties won't cost us vs the k states of the world, but we won't beat the above 3 with 11 penalties

Turfdawg67
09-08-2018, 02:13 PM
Very undisciplined...

maroonmania
09-08-2018, 02:13 PM
Glad we're winning this game but not happy about how we played in areas. So much more athletic and talented than KSU, but lack of discipline and less than average QB play has kept this from being a complete blowout.

I wasn't happy about a lot of stuff last week but people freak out if anything is said that's negative when you win 63-6 even though it was against a JUCO.

Lance Harbor
09-08-2018, 02:13 PM
Those hops are ridiculous.


That dback for KSU needs to be playing basketball. Those were some serious hops right there.

ShotgunDawg
09-08-2018, 02:13 PM
https://twitter.com/tbhorka/status/1038505219175399424

msstate7
09-08-2018, 02:13 PM
isn't he like 4-10 on his last 10 kicks?

Yikes. I'd have to see yardage att to completely freak out

starkvegasdawg
09-08-2018, 02:14 PM
Held like a grudge. That made me laugh.

TimberBeast
09-08-2018, 02:14 PM
Penalties alone are going to cost us a game if we don?t get them cleaned up

Turfdawg67
09-08-2018, 02:14 PM
isn't he like 4-10 on his last 10 kicks?

And he won the job, and he has a NFL kicker for a coach... scary.

VandelayIndustries
09-08-2018, 02:14 PM
Awesome

Irondawg
09-08-2018, 02:14 PM
That was KSU first penalty of game

Lance Harbor
09-08-2018, 02:14 PM
Great. He looked to be holding his arm oddly



https://twitter.com/tbhorka/status/1038505219175399424

maroonmania
09-08-2018, 02:14 PM
Bad snap on the kick. We've looked terrible today, but we're still up big. This is a weird game for sure

As much as I disliked DM's coaching of STs, I'm not overly impressed with Joey Jones so far.

Quaoarsking
09-08-2018, 02:15 PM
isn't he like 4-10 on his last 10 kicks?

No, he was 12/14 last year and 1/3 so far this year.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/4047616/year/2017/jace-christmann

Lance Harbor
09-08-2018, 02:16 PM
Such bad reffing....ridiculous



That was KSU first penalty of game

msstate7
09-08-2018, 02:16 PM
If our CBs hold up, our defense is championship quality

ShotgunDawg
09-08-2018, 02:16 PM
Kylin is back. Had to go piss

RocketDawg
09-08-2018, 02:17 PM
Penalties alone are going to cost us a game if we don?t get them cleaned up

And KSU just had their first penalty of the game ... or the first one that was actually called.

VandelayIndustries
09-08-2018, 02:17 PM
Kylin is on the sidelines

BrunswickDawg
09-08-2018, 02:17 PM
Hill - 225 yards
KSU -213 yards

maroonmania
09-08-2018, 02:17 PM
Such bad reffing....ridiculous

Given me ANY refs calling our game other than SEC refs. The Bama game for me last year was the last straw.

msstate7
09-08-2018, 02:18 PM
Hill - 225 yards
KSU -213 yards

Nice stat

msstate7
09-08-2018, 02:19 PM
So, anyone ask bartoo about this?

LC Dawg
09-08-2018, 02:19 PM
If we threw zero passes and the refs didn't screw us on a reversed call we would be winning 31-0. Obviously a lot of room for improvement but definitely no time to panic.

Fader21
09-08-2018, 02:19 PM
Kylin is back. Had to go piss

Must not be any bushes around

starkvegasdawg
09-08-2018, 02:19 PM
Back on sideline. He must be ok.

Dawgology
09-08-2018, 02:21 PM
I get that. He would be playing now though. Something's up.

Yeah you have to wonder what happened there. Very strange.

MarketingBully
09-08-2018, 02:21 PM
Hill looks fine to me.

ShotgunDawg
09-08-2018, 02:21 PM
Solid win but a lot to improve

HoopsDawg
09-08-2018, 02:21 PM
Very nice win. KSU will win some games in the Big 12.

VandelayIndustries
09-08-2018, 02:22 PM
Good win

VandelayIndustries
09-08-2018, 02:23 PM
Total Yards

538-213

Quaoarsking
09-08-2018, 02:23 PM
I definitely wouldn't have burned 1/4 of Keytaon's redshirt for 2 plays there, but I guess the staff has absolutely no intention of keeping the possibility open.

maroonmania
09-08-2018, 02:23 PM
If we threw zero passes and the refs didn't screw us on a reversed call we would be winning 31-0. Obviously a lot of room for improvement but definitely no time to panic.

No panic, its just this team has SO much potential if we just play clean and stop doing stupid stuff. May be quite a while before we have another team with a ceiling this high.

HoopsDawg
09-08-2018, 02:24 PM
Total Yards

538-213

Wow, the game wasn't as close as the score.

HoopsDawg
09-08-2018, 02:24 PM
I definitely wouldn't have burned 1/4 of Keytaon's redshirt for 2 plays there, but I guess the staff has absolutely no intention of keeping the possibility open.

The staff has said no redshirt, but I agree, weird move.

Liverpooldawg
09-08-2018, 02:25 PM
I definitely wouldn't have burned 1/4 of Keytaon's redshirt for 2 plays there, but I guess the staff has absolutely no intention of keeping the possibility open.

You can't really redshirt him and Mayden. You have to have a backup that can play.

starkvegasdawg
09-08-2018, 02:25 PM
Good win

Cup half empty take: we made a lot of mistakes that could cost us in the SEC.

Cup half full take: we played like shit and still kicked the teeth in of a power 5 school.

MarketingBully
09-08-2018, 02:25 PM
Wow, the game wasn't as close as the score.

How is a 31-10 game close??????

HoopsDawg
09-08-2018, 02:26 PM
You can't really redshirt him and Mayden. You have to have a backup that can play.

You might could have, but not now. Mayden can play 4 games too and he could have taken those 2 snaps.

msstate7
09-08-2018, 02:26 PM
I definitely wouldn't have burned 1/4 of Keytaon's redshirt for 2 plays there, but I guess the staff has absolutely no intention of keeping the possibility open.

Don't be surprised if Shrader is the guy next season even a true fresh. He's joe's guy

HoopsDawg
09-08-2018, 02:27 PM
How is a 31-10 game close??????

Just saying the stats were even more of a blowout.

Pollodawg
09-08-2018, 02:27 PM
Our QBs combined are now 24-57. That’s concerning. I tried to ignore it, but that ain’t good.

Leroy Jenkins
09-08-2018, 02:28 PM
I definitely wouldn't have burned 1/4 of Keytaon's redshirt for 2 plays there, but I guess the staff has absolutely no intention of keeping the possibility open.



Then you definitely haven't heard CJM say no redshirt for KT.

LC Dawg
09-08-2018, 02:28 PM
I definitely wouldn't have burned 1/4 of Keytaon's redshirt for 2 plays there, but I guess the staff has absolutely no intention of keeping the possibility open.

Yeah, I think there is zero intention of redshirting Keytaon.
Moorhead has said he has some packages with both Fitz and KT on the field.

Bdawg
09-08-2018, 02:30 PM
The closest thing about this win was the score. We are much better than they are but the score didn't quite show the difference. If Fitz takes the sack, they only score 3. We should have had at least 3 more points and probably could have had more. Fitz has to get the ball in the same time zone on deep balls soon. Good road win though and hailstate!!!

MarketingBully
09-08-2018, 02:31 PM
I don’t get you people. You say LSU crushed Miami and they had 2 offensive touchdowns and Miami actually outgained LSU in total yards on a neutral field. We almost triple K-State’s total yards and beat them by 3 touchdowns and more then cover yet you only see an 8-9 win team. We played like shit and beat a P5 team by 3 touchdowns on their field. We will clean up a lot of the mistakes you saw today and when we go on the road to play at Kentucky we will be in better shape (and I think K-State’s better then UK btw). We don’t play a team with a pulse until week 5 anyway. We will be fine. You guys are way way way too hard on our team. I think we will be fine and I still say we will be in the 10-11 win range this year.

RocketDawg
09-08-2018, 02:31 PM
You might could have, but not now. Mayden can play 4 games too and he could have taken those 2 snaps.

Or our walkon (who looked pretty good passing in the SFA game). Looks like there's no intent to redshirt Keytaeon.

Cooterpoot
09-08-2018, 02:32 PM
Then you definitely haven't heard CJM say no redshirt for KT.

He’s said he won’t redshirt him.

WeWonItAll(Most)
09-08-2018, 02:33 PM
Cup half empty take: we made a lot of mistakes that could cost us in the SEC.

Cup half full take: we played like shit and still kicked the teeth in of a power 5 school.

At a place that's notoriously tough to play with our QB fresh off a gruesome ankle injury.

msstate7
09-08-2018, 02:33 PM
I don’t get you people. You say LSU crushed Miami and they had 2 offensive touchdowns and Miami actually outgained LSU in total yards on a neutral field. We almost triple K-State’s total yards and beat them by 3 touchdowns and more then cover yet you only see an 8-9 win team. We played like shit and beat a P5 team by 3 touchdowns on their field. We will clean up a lot of the mistakes you saw today and when we go on the road to play at Kentucky we will be in better shape (and I think K-State’s better then UK btw). We don’t play a team with a pulse until week 5 anyway. We will be fine. You guys are way way way too hard on our team. I think we will be fine and I still say we will be in the 10-11 win range this year.

We're hard on em bc we realize the potential. If I thought 8-9 wins was our ceiling, I would just be thrilled with today. I think our ceiling is higher than that, so we have to fine tune to get there. I'm critical bc I love this team, and see a shot we may not see for a long time

HoopsDawg
09-08-2018, 02:34 PM
He’s said he won’t redshirt him.

We've all heard it, just don't agree with.

RezDog7
09-08-2018, 02:34 PM
Damn, I knew Abram would get ejected. Just knew it

Do you ever comment anything positive? You are the most miserable person in the world.

RocketDawg
09-08-2018, 02:35 PM
Saban's probably going to blow another gasket ... they didn't cut away from the Arizona/Houston game to start the Bama game.

Dolphus Raymond
09-08-2018, 02:38 PM
Any updat on the injuries?

tcdog70
09-08-2018, 02:38 PM
Don't be surprised if Shrader is the guy next season even a true fresh. He's joe's guy

Surprise, I'll say. Key will be the Man. Where do you come up with half the shit you say?

VandelayIndustries
09-08-2018, 02:39 PM
Any updat on the injuries?

Saw Dantzler come back in the game. not sure about Jamal though

Dawg61
09-08-2018, 02:40 PM
Don't be surprised if Shrader is the guy next season even a true fresh. He's joe's guy

Lol not happening. Key looked better vs SFA than Fitz did today. Fitz had an awful game passing.

msstate7
09-08-2018, 02:41 PM
Lol not happening. Key looked better vs SFA than Fitz did today. Fitz had an awful game passing.

I certainly could be wrong. I just think joe Moorhead would prefer a passer first, runner second. Key could be the better passer though... haven't seen shrader in person

Coach007
09-08-2018, 02:45 PM
I don’t get you people. You say LSU crushed Miami and they had 2 offensive touchdowns and Miami actually outgained LSU in total yards on a neutral field. We almost triple K-State’s total yards and beat them by 3 touchdowns and more then cover yet you only see an 8-9 win team. We played like shit and beat a P5 team by 3 touchdowns on their field. We will clean up a lot of the mistakes you saw today and when we go on the road to play at Kentucky we will be in better shape (and I think K-State’s better then UK btw). We don’t play a team with a pulse until week 5 anyway. We will be fine. You guys are way way way too hard on our team. I think we will be fine and I still say we will be in the 10-11 win range this year.

I think the issue here is that we are not comparing things to LSU. Screw LSU. We are talking about a national Championship and see what has to take place in order to win it.

Dolphus Raymond
09-08-2018, 02:45 PM
We're hard on em bc we realize the potential. If I thought 8-9 wins was our ceiling, I would just be thrilled with today. I think our ceiling is higher than that, so we have to fine tune to get there. I'm critical bc I love this team, and see a shot we may not see for a long time
This. This team can be much better. Got to work on the passing game but I give Fitz a pass since it was his first game back. The running game? WOW, even though Kansa is not all that, I didn't see this coming. Defense? Nothing needs to be said. Improve the pass game (significantly) and clean up the penalties and we will be difficult to stop.

Activated Alpha
09-08-2018, 02:45 PM
I admit that I tempered my expectations coming into this game because I expected a lot closer game from K State, but the stats from the game weren't even close. I was being very critical in the first quarter because it seemed like State was just making mental mistake after mental mistake. A couple of things I noticed as everyone else here did was our deep ball passing. Fitz has to be able to complete a higher percentage of those or else teams will not be threatened by our receivers. Yes they beat their guys on a few occasions, but you can't catch something that isn't even close to you. Another thing I noticed is that Coach Snyder has class and respect. With Dantzler down, he went over there to assist even with our trainers caring for him. To me that shows humility and compassion. Overall a good game in which I thought would be closer than it turned out to be.

Coach007
09-08-2018, 02:46 PM
Lol not happening. Key looked better vs SFA than Fitz did today. Fitz had an awful game passing.

Are you seriously suggesting that SFA is anywhere near as good on defense as KSU?

Coach007
09-08-2018, 02:46 PM
This. This team can be much better. Got to work on the passing game but I give Fitz a pass since it was his first game back. The running game? WOW, even though Kansa is not all that, I didn't see this coming. Defense? Nothing needs to be said. Improve the pass game (significantly) and clean up the penalties and we will be difficult to stop.

KSU was a top 10 rush defense last year.

tcdog70
09-08-2018, 02:47 PM
I'm pleased as Punch. I wanted to see our Bigs dominate( they Did). I wanted to see Fitz run(he did like the hard running Mfer he is). I wanted to see if Hill was the real deal (hell to the yes) . We did have some drops, and Fitz will get better. Our Jimmys and Joes were way better than theirs. And the Refs sucked. The no fumble call was pitiful. Brian Cole and C Rivers are studs.

dawgday166
09-08-2018, 02:50 PM
Lol not happening. Key looked better vs SFA than Fitz did today. Fitz had an awful game passing.

Lol. SFA much better than KSU *****

SFA had so many blown assignments our WRs were receiving punts.

I will say Fitz does need to get alot better throwing downfield and I'm starting to think he won't get there.

parabrave
09-08-2018, 02:50 PM
One thing that will get noticed by the SEC coaching staffs will be the open gates in our pass blocking. Our RBs need to help out in that area, or we need to put in more screen plays.

dawgday166
09-08-2018, 02:52 PM
We're hard on em bc we realize the potential. If I thought 8-9 wins was our ceiling, I would just be thrilled with today. I think our ceiling is higher than that, so we have to fine tune to get there. I'm critical bc I love this team, and see a shot we may not see for a long time

You right here. We have a lot to clean up and that needs to be improved. Otherwise 8-4 here we come.

Dolphus Raymond
09-08-2018, 02:52 PM
I'm pleased as Punch. I wanted to see our Bigs dominate( they Did). I wanted to see Fitz run(he did like the hard running Mfer he is). I wanted to see if Hill was the real deal (hell to the yes) . We did have some drops, and Fitz will get better. Our Jimmys and Joes were way better than theirs. And the Refs sucked. The no fumble call was pitiful. Brian Cole and C Rivers are studs.

And hell yes the refs sucked.

tcdog70
09-08-2018, 02:53 PM
Lol not happening. Key looked better vs SFA than Fitz did today. Fitz had an awful game passing.

He was just awful on deep throws. His short to medium throws were ok. We also had some drops. Williams could have caught the fade, it was a nice throw. Fitz will get better.

Dawg61
09-08-2018, 02:54 PM
Are you seriously suggesting that SFA is anywhere near as good on defense as KSU?

Nope. I'm saying it's a 1000% guarantee that Key is our starting QB the next two years barring injury.

tcdog70
09-08-2018, 02:56 PM
You right here. We have a lot to clean up and that needs to be improved. Otherwise 8-4 here we come.

I'm callin bullshit.. our defense alone will prevent that

bulldawg28
09-08-2018, 02:58 PM
You right here. We have a lot to clean up and that needs to be improved. Otherwise 8-4 here we come.

What are you smoking?

Quaoarsking
09-08-2018, 02:58 PM
Nope. I'm saying it's a 1000% guarantee that Key is our starting QB the next two years barring injury.

If he's really good, we're going to be kicking ourselves in 2021 for using KT in garbage times like today back in 2018.

On the other hand, if he's as good as some of us expect, he would be leaving for the NFL before 2021 anyway. Or maybe Mayden or Schrader will be so good that it won't really matter.

Dawg61
09-08-2018, 03:01 PM
If he's really good, we're going to be kicking ourselves in 2021 for using KT in garbage times like today back in 2018.

On the other hand, if he's as good as some of us expect, he would be leaving for the NFL before 2021 anyway. Or maybe Mayden or Schrader will be so good that it won't really matter.

I think Key's ceiling is higher than Dak's. If he's ok with a RS I'm all for it.

dawgday166
09-08-2018, 03:02 PM
I'm callin bullshit.. our defense alone will prevent that

Maybe 9-3. Fitz was under too much pressure against KSU today. There are 3 maybe 4 Ds (and not sure what TAM has yet so it could be 5) on our schedule that will feast on that. And we play 2 of them at their house.

Liverpooldawg
09-08-2018, 03:02 PM
I think Key's ceiling is higher than Dak's. If he's ok with a RS I'm all for it.

He isn't going to be redshirted.

Dawg61
09-08-2018, 03:08 PM
He isn't going to be redshirted.

Probably not and I won't bitch if he isn't but if he is I think we have the greatest 4 year stretch in our programs history starting with this year. We still might either way. I just have a very high opinion of Key moving forward.

TaleofTwoDogs
09-08-2018, 03:13 PM
How is a 31-10 game close??????

I was thinking the same. Damnnnnnnn. It's just the opposite, the score doesn't show our dominance on the field.

Lance Harbor
09-08-2018, 03:34 PM
You are correct. How many drops?


Our QBs combined are now 24-57. That?s concerning. I tried to ignore it, but that ain?t good.

TimberBeast
09-08-2018, 03:49 PM
Lol not happening. Key looked better vs SFA than Fitz did today. Fitz had an awful game passing.

Seriously dumb shit but not surprising coming from you. Against an even decent defense last week key has three or four interceptions on those severely under thrown passes. Fitz did decent coming off serious injury and not playing last week.

Dawg61
09-08-2018, 03:51 PM
Seriously dumb shit but not surprising coming from you. Against an even decent defense last week key has three or four interceptions on those severely under thrown passes. Fitz did decent coming off serious injury and not playing last week.

Key looked better vs Louisville than Fitz did today too. Get triggered baw.

TimberBeast
09-08-2018, 03:56 PM
Key looked better vs Louisville than Fitz did today too. Get triggered baw.

Well you have one decent game from key to go on, cause he looked pretty bad last week. Fitz has a hell of a lot better record to go by, sounds like you hit on him once and he shot you down?

Dawg61
09-08-2018, 05:36 PM
Well you have one decent game from key to go on, cause he looked pretty bad last week. Fitz has a hell of a lot better record to go by, sounds like you hit on him once and he shot you down?

Lol sounds like you got Fitz cock in your stomach. He threw the ball horrible today. He ran it fine. I didn't realize his arm got broken vs OM. I'm not suggesting we switch QBs as this entire year is his to start but y'all gave KT endless shit last week and he had 7 tds.