VT/FSU Thread

[ShotgunDawg]

I for one hope that FSU gets the S&*& kicked out of them tonight.

That's one program I wouldn't mind see tanking

[RocketDawg]

Willie Taggert was a bit nicer to Mariah Taylor than Saban was.

[TUSK]

Willie Taggert was a bit nicer to Mariah Taylor than Saban was.

He soft.

[RocketDawg]

I for one hope that FSU gets the S&*& kicked out of them tonight.

That's one program I wouldn't mind see tanking

I don't really care one way or the other, but it's better than run of the mill Monday night programming.

I see FSU is in hideous black uniforms ....

[RocketDawg]

He soft.


Played golf today with several of my Alabama friends. They thought he was being a prick too. Saban's going to wind up with a Urban Meyer "heart issue" if he isn't careful.

[TUSK]

Played golf today with several of my Alabama friends. They thought he was being a prick too. Saban's going to wind up with a Urban Meyer "heart issue" if he isn't careful.

I don't know of anyone that would tell you MDL can't be a dick, at times... I think we can all agree on that....

and He doesn't have "heart issues".... He gives 'em.

[ShotgunDawg]

Taggart play checkers & Fuente plays chess

This is coaching mismatch

[BrunswickDawg]

One of my best friends is a huge FSU guy. I was always surprised at how much he badmouthed Jimbo and believed he was holding them back. I just don't think Taggert is an upgrade there.

[ShotgunDawg]

One of my best friends is a huge FSU guy. I was always surprised at how much he badmouthed Jimbo and believed he was holding them back. I just don't think Taggert is an upgrade there.

Taggert is an odd coach. He has turned around some programs, but Bartoo hates him

[msstate7]

Taggert is an odd coach. He has turned around some programs, but Bartoo hates him

Bartoo had tenn as a playoff contender. Maybe that clown should just shut up

[ShotgunDawg]

Dave Bartoo
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Going over some of my notes from last year, and reminder to Florida State fans that you should expect To see a lot of flags thrown on a Willie Taggart coached team. WKU USF uo all high Flag frequency

I almost love the coaching carousel as much as the actual season. Dave Bartoo has Taggart B+ recruiting D+ coaching. Fascinating to follo

[ShotgunDawg]

Bartoo had tenn has a playoff contender. Maybe that clown should just shut up

He did. He's also right a many things. We'll see

[ShotgunDawg]

Melon Usk
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That Dave Bartoo guy from College Football Matrix knows his shit and apparently he has Taggart at an F grade for OC before he even got to Oregon.

[RocketDawg]

Taggart play checkers & Fuente plays chess

This is coaching mismatch

This might be a high scoring game.

[ShotgunDawg]

Is Florida State running Tennessee's offense?

[ShotgunDawg]

This might be a high scoring game.

Disagree. Poorly coached teams don't score many points

[msstate7]

Melon Usk
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That Dave Bartoo guy from College Football Matrix knows his shit and apparently he has Taggart at an F grade for OC before he even got to Oregon.

Did real messiah or bartoo comment on tenn's drumming?

[ShotgunDawg]

Willie Taggart's coaching

https://media.giphy.com/media/11ITiHSwbGTXmU/giphy.gif

[RocketDawg]

FSU looks terrible.

[ShotgunDawg]

Did real messiah or bartoo comment on tenn's drumming?

Dude, with Tennessee, he was just saying that they fit the talent profile. Meaning, of the teams that could win the NC, they correlate from a talent perspective. That's all he was saying

[RocketDawg]

Disagree. Poorly coached teams don't score many points

I didn't say by both teams. **

[ShotgunDawg]

I didn't say by both teams. **

True that

[msstate7]

Dude, with Tennessee, he was just saying that they fit the talent profile. Meaning, of the teams that could win the NC, they correlate from a talent perspective. That's all he was saying

So tenn and Florida are more talented than us? He left us off the list. Bartoo is not the god you make him out to be.

[ShotgunDawg]

FSU's WRs look terrible blocking

[ShotgunDawg]

So tenn and Florida are more talented than us? He left us off the list. Bartoo is not the god you make him out to be.

They are in his matrix, which is flawed because he doesn't re-rank players.

I'm not agreeing with him, I'm just telling you why objectively he said that

[ShotgunDawg]

Where is Akers?

Sorry I found him

[ShotgunDawg]

Again, Taggart's teams get penalized

[ShotgunDawg]

Kevin Wade
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Willie Taggart at Oregon was the nation’s most penalized team. A large number were presnap penalties

[Cooterpoot]

The fighting Akers suck!

[was21]

Taggart and staff are not a detail oriented staff

[Cooterpoot]

Those unis look like something Adidas would give away with their bats.

[ShotgunDawg]

VT running the Joe Moorhead offense?

[ShotgunDawg]

Taggart and staff are not a detail oriented staff

No.

It has Butch Jones type Tennessee program written all over it.

[msstate7]

I see WRs all over the country making plays we just don't make out wide

[was21]

delete..double post

[ShotgunDawg]

I see WRs all over the country making plays we just don't make out wide

We made few the other night.

Mullen never threw fade routes like that.

[ShotgunDawg]

Taggart and staff are not detail oriented...not good

Agree and no matter how much talent you have, no team can overcome that

[RocketDawg]

Those unis look like something Adidas would give away with their bats.

Haha. Yeah, true. I like the metallic garnet color though.

I think I'll get one of those glitter body suits for our next game. Watch for me .... **

[msstate7]

We made few the other night.

Mullen never threw fade routes like that.

When was the last time we made a 50/50 play like that vs a top 20 team? I wanna see our guys make a play vs good DBs

[RocketDawg]

Wasn't Taggert supposedly offered our job? Sure am glad we got Joe.

[ShotgunDawg]

When was the last time we made a 50/50 play like that vs a top 20 team? I wanna see our guys make a play vs good DBs

Agree. Just saying I think this coaching staff will get us making those types of players.

Additionally, we have rangier WRs now with Williams, Osirus the Virus, & InstaGuidry

[ShotgunDawg]

Wasn't Taggert supposedly offered our job? Sure am glad we got Joe.

Negative Ghostwriter. Not even close

[msstate7]

There's a lot of WT hate here that I don't understand. His first 3 jobs were at places that they were really bad to bad. He left all 3 in good shape and in bowl games

[ShotgunDawg]

There's a lot of WT hate here that I don't understand. His first 3 jobs were at places that they were really bad to bad. He left all 3 in good shape and in bowl games

Everyone can have their own opinion

[msstate7]

Agree. Just saying I think this coaching staff will get us making those types of players.

Additionally, we have rangier WRs now with Williams, Osirus the Virus, & InstaGuidry

I liked Williams' hands. I liked Mitchell's hands last year. I think Moorhead may value hands over athleticism some. Guidry appears to be really athletic though

[ShotgunDawg]

I liked Williams' hands. I liked Mitchell's hands last year. I think Moorhead may value hands over athleticism some. Guidry appears to be really athletic though

InstaGuidry is a stud. That play he made that was called out of bounds in the endzone was a big time play. He flashed impact potential

[RocketDawg]

Negative Ghostwriter. Not even close

I'm getting old ... could have sworn that was the case.

[RocketDawg]

InstaGuidry is a stud. That play he made that was called out of bounds in the endzone was a big time play. He flashed impact potential

I thought he'd caught it for a TD.

[ShotgunDawg]

Is this a record number of penalties for the first 20 min of a game?

[msstate7]

I'm getting old ... could have sworn that was the case.

Supposedly Oregon chose WT over Mullen according to some here. That's the only link I've heard between us

[ShotgunDawg]

I thought he'd caught it for a TD.

I thought it was a super impressive regardless of whether or not his foot was slightly out.

He looked dynamic

[msstate7]

I thought he'd caught it for a TD.

Clearly out of bounds. Not sure if bad route by Guidry or late throw from Thompson.

[ShotgunDawg]

FSU is having far more success running between the tackles than going wide

[msstate7]

We need a wr like that. What explosion

[Dallas_Dawg]

Wow presnap penalty nightmares. From the 1 yard line

[msstate7]

I'd be pissed if I were fsu

[ShotgunDawg]

I'd be pissed if I were fsu

Taggart could have easily challenged it

reminds me of Boobie & the Houston game

[msstate7]

Late hit on qb

[ShotgunDawg]

FSU OL got away with an egregious hold

[msstate7]

Taggart could have easily challenged it

reminds me of Boobie & the Houston game

You can challenge?

[Cooterpoot]

Announcers are slobbing the FSU knob. It’s killing them they’re losing.
VT players dropping like flies.

[ShotgunDawg]

You can challenge?

Yes. I'm pretty sure. All it cost you is a timeout I believe if your wrong.

At very least, you can call timeout & ask the refs to look at it

3. College head coaches can make challenges, like in the NFL.
Each team gets one per game, with a second if the first challenge is successful.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/8/30/17489766/ncaa-instant-replay-challenge-rule

[msstate7]

Yes. I'm pretty sure. All it cost you is a timeout I believe if your wrong.

In nfl. I didn't think you could in college

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

I'd be pissed if I were fsu

They should change it so that the previous play becomes unreviewable after an offensive penalty. I would have been mad if FSU got away with being stupid because they did something else stupid.

[msstate7]

You can challenge 1 play per game

[ShotgunDawg]

In nfl. I didn't think you could in college

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/8/30/17489766/ncaa-instant-replay-challenge-rule

[RocketDawg]

Clearly out of bounds. Not sure if bad route by Guidry or late throw from Thompson.

I didn't see the replay ... it just looked good to me real time.

[msstate7]

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/8/30/17489766/ncaa-instant-replay-challenge-rule

I probably wouldn't have used my 1 challenge there either. First and goal at the half yard line... gotta put that in

[tireddawg]

You can challenge 1 play per game

2 if 1st one is successful

[ShotgunDawg]

Bad spot

[ShotgunDawg]

Why wasn't that challenged?

[msstate7]

2 if 1st one is successful

Either way... seems with first and goal at 1/2 yard line, risk/reward not worth it. I mean you have to figure you can punch that in

[ShotgunDawg]

I probably wouldn't have used my 1 challenge there either. First and goal at the half yard line... gotta put that in

Maybe so, but FSU ran a hurry up. They should've at least milked it so the refs could take a longer look

[msstate7]

Maybe so, but FSU ran a hurry up. They should've at least milked it so the refs could take a longer look

I agree with that.

[ShotgunDawg]

Cam Akers is a shitty pass blocker

[msstate7]

Cam Akers is a shitty pass blocker

Better than Marcus Dupree - Rick Cleveland

[ShotgunDawg]

Penalties & bad special teams is the number one sign of poor coaching and a lack of details

[msstate7]

Pretty big drive for FSU. Need to answer

[MaroonFlounder]

I know it's game 1 for Taggart at FSU, but he just never struck me as even a decent x and o guy...only recruiter

[ShotgunDawg]

I know it's game 1 for Taggart at FSU, but he just never struck me as even a decent x and o guy...only recruiter

Blue bloods should never ever hire recruiters. Hire great Xs & Os guys & hope they can recruit

[BrunswickDawg]

There's a lot of WT hate here that I don't understand. His first 3 jobs were at places that they were really bad to bad. He left all 3 in good shape and in bowl games

Because he didn't really accomplish that much.

Taggert was 2nd coach at WKU after their move up to FBS - and got them to 7-5 in 3 years. WKU was a very good I-AA program (a Natty and 13 conference titles) and they had a brief adjustment moving up.

USF was good under Leavit but bad under Skip Holtz (because Skip Holtz sucks), Taggert got them to 10-2, but they play in the AAC - and the competition is terrible (Leavit coached them in a much tougher old Big East)

Oregon was coming off a 4-8 year where they had lost 3 games by 3 points each - and he basically flipped those 3 games.

WT isn't a bad coach - but he isn't some miracle worker/next level coach.

[msstate7]

Just don't give Akers the ball. Patrick is better anyway

[ShotgunDawg]

Cam Akers - 7 yards on 9 carries

[ShotgunDawg]

Good lord

[msstate7]

Not one thing has gone right going to Akers. Not all of it is his fault, but damn, it ain't working

[msstate7]

Fuente is a puss

[msstate7]

VT should've gone for a FG

[Pit Bull]

Taggart play checkers & Fuente plays chess

This is coaching mismatch

Fuentes turned Memphis around big league....seems to be doing the same at VaTech?..wonder if the Hokies will be his last stop or does he have his sights set on a blue blood biggy one day!!!

[War Machine Dawg]

Fuente is one hell of a coach. Wish we could've hired him but Lateral Move didn't leave soon enough. I'm glad we ended up with Moorhead, but it remains to be seen if he's in the same class as Fuente. Winning at Memphis is damn near impossible, but Fuente did it.

Haven't watched a whole lot of this game, but from what I've seen, FSU's OL is trash. VT is just smashing them. Francois is constantly under pressure and being hit. No holes for Akers to find. Going to be a long year in Tallahasse if what I've seen from their OL is the case.

ETA: Since when are alternate spellings of Mullen filtered?

[ShotgunDawg]

Fuentes turned Memphis around big league....seems to be doing the same at VaTech?..wonder if the Hokies will be his last stop or does he have his sights set on a blue blood biggy one day!!!

Watch out if Urban is out at Ohio State

Not sure I'd leave VT for Michigan

[Bully13]

Fun seeing VA Tech whipping FL State. Would like to see VA Tech or UVA and one of the NC schools in the SEC East and have MO move on over to the West

[RocketDawg]

Watch out if Urban is out at Ohio State

Not sure I'd leave VT for Michigan

Not so sure about that ... Michigan is a huge football name. And as far as I'm concerned, they totally outshine Ohio State academically.

[Commercecomet24]

Bud Foster is a defensive genius. Maybe the best defensive coach in the country

[ShotgunDawg]

Not so sure about that ... Michigan is a huge football name. And as far as I'm concerned, they totally outshine Ohio State academically.

What does academics have to do with coaching football?

Yeah but it's a dead end job where the expectations far outweigh the reality.

Michigan has won 1 national title since 1948

They are basically the Tennessee of the north

[msstate7]

Lol @ akers. Having fun, champ?

[ShotgunDawg]

Bud Foster is a defensive genius. Maybe the best defensive coach in the country

I'll take Saban

[Commercecomet24]

I'll take Saban

Saban is elite but imo Foster is better. He's been shutting down high powered offenses for years without all the 5 star talent.

[ShotgunDawg]

Saban is elite but imo Foster is better. He's been shutting down high powered offenses for years without all the 5 star talent.

Ok, I'll take Venables

[Cooterpoot]

Akers still tries to bounce every run outside.

[RocketDawg]

That was definitely offensive pass interference.

[I seen it dawg]

The ACC is one team and a lot of average to trash teams

[Commercecomet24]

Ok, I'll take Venables

Lol! He's elite too but I'm taking Bud.

[RocketDawg]

What does academics have to do with coaching football?

Yeah but it's a dead end job where the expectations far outweigh the reality.

Michigan has won 1 national title since 1948

They are basically the Tennessee of the north

Good heavens, I can't believe you said that. It'd darn well better have to do with academics ... it's a UNIVERSITY.

[msstate7]

Fuente May have just fricked up. Fg makes it 3 scores

[ShotgunDawg]

Close but no cigar

[msstate7]

Review this but not the FSU one. Acc officials are a clown show

[msstate7]

Akers would've been a safety

[msstate7]

FSU has dynamic WRs. Run a freaking quick slant or wr screen against all these loaded boxes

[TUSK]

The ACC is one team and a lot of average to trash teams

Who you callin’ “average”, mister?*

[TUSK]

Saban is elite but imo Foster is better. He's been shutting down high powered offenses for years without all the 5 star talent.

Heretic.

[ShotgunDawg]

Horrific tackling by VT

[msstate7]

I guess that's why you stick with him. Thank God he isn't at OM

[RocketDawg]

What was it you guys were saying about Akers?? **

He obviously was just holding it back, getting them over confident.

[ShotgunDawg]

Aeris Williams is better between the tackles than Akers

[BrunswickDawg]

Gonna laugh my ass off when FSU gets nothing after that run.

[War Machine Dawg]

Fun seeing VA Tech whipping FL State. Would like to see VA Tech or UVA and one of the NC schools in the SEC East and have MO move on over to the West

It's only a matter of time until this happens. We didn't put the SEC Network HQ outside the current membership states in Charlotte for the hell of it. The next SEC expansion will be UNC & one of UVA/VT. Probably within 5 years, definitely within 10.

[ShotgunDawg]

There is Cam

[RocketDawg]

Gonna laugh my ass off when FSU gets nothing after that run.

Well, start chuckling.

[BrunswickDawg]

Gonna laugh my ass off when FSU gets nothing after that run.

Bwahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahaha hhahahahahahahahhaahhaha ha

[msstate7]

Cam Akers seems like a 3rd down back or slot guy. He useless unless he hits the edge

[BrunswickDawg]

Well, start chuckling.

https://media.giphy.com/media/5xtDarxwYrwYuUpq2YM/giphy.gif

[msstate7]

I missed most the games by going to our game, but every game I've watched this weekend has been horrible.

[ShotgunDawg]

This is pretty funny

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Not every day you see a dude have 14 rushes for 82 yards with a long of 85

[RocketDawg]

I missed most the games by going to our game, but every game I've watched this weekend has been horrible.

The prime time special day games have certainly been a mismatch.

[ShotgunDawg]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1036812116072845313

[TUSK]

I hate we missed out on Akers... he could have taken some of the load off Ronnie Clark this season.

[ShotgunDawg]

Is Charles Cross really going to play for this coach?

Good gawd

[RocketDawg]

I hate we missed out on Akers... he could have taken some of the load off Ronnie Clark this season.

He would've been 4th on the 5-star depth chart ....

[msstate7]

Is Charles Cross really going to play for this coach?

Good gawd

He won't play for us. Oline recruiting hasn't improved one bit despite all the fails that were attributed to Hev

[TUSK]

He would've been 4th on the 5-star depth chart ....

Naw, man. Maybe 5th or 6th.

Prolly been good on ST.

[Dawg61]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1036812116072845313

I'm going to PM you instructions on how to embed a tweet

https://twitter.com/colecubelic/status/1036812116072845313

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