Stewart....

[dawgoneyall]

Guess I missed it but what is his status?

[Hambone]

Signing with the Braves

[msstate7]

Signing with the Braves

No, he isn't.

[Bully13]

I read here he's with us.

[smootness]

He is not coming to State, he is going JUCO.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Signing with the Braves


No, he isn't.


I read here he's with us.


He is not coming to State, he is going JUCO.

The whole spectrum of answers was knocked out in 4 posts. Good job guys

[msu15]

The whole spectrum of answers was knocked out in 4 posts. Good job guys

Hahahahaha

[Dawgbite]

The whole spectrum of answers was knocked out in 4 posts. Good job guys

I read on the Spirit that he is flipping to Ole Miss. Now you have the entire spectrum!

[WSOPdawg]

The whole spectrum of answers was knocked out in 4 posts. Good job guys

Lolol, that's awesome. Rep given.

[msstate7]

The whole spectrum of answers was knocked out in 4 posts. Good job guys

I have no idea what he's gonna do. I just know he's not signing with the braves. Even though the braves are the most awesome franchise in mlb, mlb isn't changing the signing deadline for the braves

[HoopsDawg]

I have no idea what he's gonna do. I just know he's not signing with the braves. Even though the braves are the most awesome franchise in mlb, mlb isn't changing the signing deadline for the braves

So if the Braves aren't signing him and he's not on campus, then he is either sitting out the year to prepare for next year's draft or playing 1 year of Juco. I hate we couldn't work something out with him.

[Johnson85]

I have no idea what he's gonna do. I just know he's not signing with the braves. Even though the braves are the most awesome franchise in mlb, mlb isn't changing the signing deadline for the braves

Why did that get started? Was it just Lemonis saying he was still looking at his options and MLB???

Was there ever any chatter on braves message boards that there was a loophole they could exploit?

[dawgoneyall]

Thanks guys....I think.

[msstate7]

Why did that get started? Was it just Lemonis saying he was still looking at his options and MLB???

Was there ever any chatter on braves message boards that there was a loophole they could exploit?

No idea.

Not one braves' source that I'm aware of even mentioned it, and I'm pretty much scouting daily for braves' info

[dantheman4248]

There is no Carter Stewart currently enrolled in MSU, so he is NOT here taking classes this fall.

[Johnson85]

There is no Carter Stewart currently enrolled in MSU, so he is NOT here taking classes this fall.

nm

[Political Hack]

Best thread this month. I can't quit laughing.

[Hambone]

He will sign with the Braves. He is sitting out long enough for the current contract offer to expire and then when it’s legally able he will sign with them. The reason you aren’t hearing nothing is legally they (the Braves) cannot discuss it.

[msstate7]

He will sign with the Braves. He is sitting out long enough for the current contract offer to expire and then when it?s legally able he will sign with them. The reason you aren?t hearing nothing is legally they (the Braves) cannot discuss it.

Wait... how would this be permissible? If he sits out this period of time you suggested, is he a FA? What rule governs what he can sign for?

[Hambone]

This is the loophole that hasn’t been talked about. He didn’t sign a contract legally binding him to anyone. Yes, theoretically another organization could offer him a contract. But he’ll be with the Braves

[msstate7]

This is the loophole that hasn?t been talked about. He didn?t sign a contract legally binding him to anyone. Yes, theoretically another organization could offer him a contract. But he?ll be with the Braves
If this were the case, any player could do this to get with the organization of their choice. I'm not buying it. For instance...

Yankees: hey konnor pilkington, don't sign with the White Sox. Just sit out awhile, and we'll give you what they offered or more

Also, would the braves retain the pick for not signing carter? If carter signed with the Phillies, would the signing go towards the Phillies' pool? Just don't see anyway this is legit

[Johnson85]

This is the loophole that hasn?t been talked about. He didn?t sign a contract legally binding him to anyone. Yes, theoretically another organization could offer him a contract. But he?ll be with the Braves

I can't believe that's true. Carter may legally be able to sign with anybody, but just no way other MLB teams can offer him under the existing rules and nobody has tried this before.

I am ignorant on MLB rules so certainly coudl be wrong; I just can't believe they would work like that and nobody know about it.

[msstate7]

I asked about this on the braves' board, and got this response from a guy that knows all the rules inside out. He is a jerk though, so disregard smart comment from him...

"That would defeat the entire purpose of the draft and the draft pool penalties, now wouldn't it? The Braves lost all rights to Stewart when they failed to sign him. Your fellow alum is a moron.

If Stewart wants to play MLB baseball, he must go through the next draft. He can either go to college and be eligible for the draft in 3 years, or he can go to a junior college and be eligible for the next draft. The Braves could certainly draft him in the next draft he enters if they still like him.

There are things he could also possibly do in foreign leagues that would subject him to international signing rules. He could theoretically go to Korea or Japan, play enough seasons that he is considered a "pro" by the international rules, and come back to MLB by signing whatever contract a team is willing to give him. There may also be a loophole where he plays internationally and then comes to MLB as an international player subject to international signing bonus pools (rules state he must not be enrolled in a US/Canada/PR high school for a calendar year to be eligible).

Most likely Stewart signs with a juco, shows he's healthy for a year, and then enters the 2019 draft. That seems a lot smarter than risking 3 years pitching in college. He's already seen as having elite stuff, so he doesn't need to develop to be seen as a top prospect, he just needs to prove he's healthy.

Not agreeing to sign rarely works out well for top draft picks. I would have advised Stewart to take the millions the Braves offered him, and allow their medical/training/coaching staff to help him get healthy in top notch facilities. The Braves would be heavily invested in getting him right, his college would have been paid for if he flamed out, and he would be pretty well set for the rest of his life.

Now he's going to go play for some joker juco coach with subpar facilities and staff, who isn't invested in his health beyond the upcoming juco season. All for what? To maybe get another $1M-$2M? Poor choices made by his advisers."

[Dawg61]

He should of just signed for the ripoff amount of $2mill by the cheapo Braves. Now he's ****ed. Good job Atlanta.

[msstate7]

He should of just signed for the ripoff amount of $2mill by the cheapo Braves. Now he's ****ed. Good job Atlanta.

The braves obviously felt the wrist was enough of a risk to not approach slot.

[HoopsCoach21]

I'm honestly amazed at the lack of real information out there about what his true intentions are. I've seen lots of speculation about a ton of guys in different sports but his is a first round draft pick and no one has had any solid info on him for months. Just strange all around.

[BoomBoom]

He should of just signed for the ripoff amount of $2mill by the cheapo Braves. Now he's ****ed. Good job Atlanta.

Perfect example of loss aversion, a very irrational decision making process that is all too common. To us, the choice is obvious, as we never had $7M dancing in our heads. To him, he "lost" $5M when the Braves would only offer $2M.

[Johnson85]

Perfect example of loss aversion, a very irrational decision making process that is all too common. To us, the choice is obvious, as we never had $7M dancing in our heads. To him, he "lost" $5M when the Braves would only offer $2M.

I don't think that's loss aversion. If he were loss averse, he would have taken the $2M because the idea of not taking it and ending up with less is more painful that the potential pleasure from sitting out for a year and gaining a couple of million dollars.

Arguably, it's an example of sunk cost fallacy. He's arguably still focused on the $3M he "lost" and rather accepting that it's gone and focusing on whether the $2M is a better deal than sitting out and trying again in a year, he refused to sign because it would have forced him to "recognize" the $3M loss.

Regardless, I think he made a bad decision. If his injury is bad, the $2M is a good deal for him. If his injury isn't bad but he still flames out, it's a good deal for him. If his injury isn't bad and he turns into a star, he will get to 17 Atlanta back by basically refusing to resign with them for less than market, plus $3M, plus a interest, plus a bitch tax of whatever amount if he feels like it.

Him sitting out is a big risk for him and it doesn't really hurt the braves since they get the pick back next year.

[Dawg61]

Perfect example of loss aversion, a very irrational decision making process that is all too common. To us, the choice is obvious, as we never had $7M dancing in our heads. To him, he "lost" $5M when the Braves would only offer $2M.

How's that loss aversion working out for him now?

[Dawg61]

The braves obviously felt the wrist was enough of a risk to not approach slot.

The Braves liked him so much they decided to wreck his life. Stay classy Atlanta.

[msstate7]

The Braves liked him so much they decided to wreck his life. Stay classy Atlanta.

We should all be so lucky to live us a "wrecked" life

[BoomBoom]

I don't think that's loss aversion. If he were loss averse, he would have taken the $2M because the idea of not taking it and ending up with less is more painful that the potential pleasure from sitting out for a year and gaining a couple of million dollars.

Arguably, it's an example of sunk cost fallacy. He's arguably still focused on the $3M he "lost" and rather accepting that it's gone and focusing on whether the $2M is a better deal than sitting out and trying again in a year, he refused to sign because it would have forced him to "recognize" the $3M loss.

Regardless, I think he made a bad decision. If his injury is bad, the $2M is a good deal for him. If his injury isn't bad but he still flames out, it's a good deal for him. If his injury isn't bad and he turns into a star, he will get to 17 Atlanta back by basically refusing to resign with them for less than market, plus $3M, plus a interest, plus a bitch tax of whatever amount if he feels like it.

Him sitting out is a big risk for him and it doesn't really hurt the braves since they get the pick back next year.

I think it's expectation based loss aversion

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_aversion

Though I think we are saying the same thing, that he is over focusing on the $5M he thinks he is worth, thus if he signed he would "lose" $3M. He obviously didn't have a good advisor near him to tell him it's unfortunate, but not signing would make the situation worse. It's in his agent's favor to gamble on a bigger payday down the line, but not his.

[BoomBoom]

The Braves liked him so much they decided to wreck his life. Stay classy Atlanta.

He was the one that decided not to give a full physical before the draft. He picked his agents and advisors too.

[TaleofTwoDogs]

We can end these endless threads if one of you brave internet warriors just pick of the phone and text him with - "Hey, sumbitch, wheres ya goin' play da ball th's yar? Askin' fur a bud. Tanks bro, peace"

[Todd4State]

I think the best chance at making the most money would have been to go to college and show that he is healthy after three years. It worked for Brady Singer.

I bet he ends up getting about the same 2 million offer or less now. But we'll see. Probably a better chance that he regresses than develops in JUCO baseball.

[Bully13]

I jumped the gun due to commerce saying he was optimistic about our chances. I guess it's looking like juco now so he can try again 1 yr down the road as opposed to waiting 2.