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Coach34
08-08-2018, 08:22 PM
1. Luke Alexander- PED's? Seriously? Literally the biggest waste of PED's in the history of sports. Kid- go to Delta State and help them win a regional. You arent an SEC player- just as I said you werent. And ISeenIt said you werent. And Ari Gold said you werent. Only hardcore State fans with no intelligence in baseball thought you were an SEC player. You will do well in D-2. More times than not- I'm going to be proven right. Why you people even protest at this point is mind-googling. Good luck.

2. Kylin Hill > Aeris Williams. Aeris will be a SR and he does alot of things well- but Kylin is a superstar that will be a top 3 round draft pick. Aeris will be a FA signing for a team to fill out a practice roster. Aeris is a very good college player that does everything pretty well. Hill is a gamebreaker that changes games with a catch out of the backfield or hitting a hole quicker than Aeris would. Hill is a Saquon Barkley type of talent- but he may not have quite as much top end as Barkley. Hill is going to be our guy at TB by midseason for sure- he is a gamebreaker. But Aeris is a good college player and will play alot. This is where I'm so glad JoMo is our HC instead of Mullen (phuck you Liverpool- we found a better coach just as I said we would)- Mullen would keep throwing Aeris out there instead of Hill. Hill is a gamebreaker and the guy that gets us in the playoff.

3. I think Fitz, Hill, and Williams divide more carries this year so that nobody gets broken down. We will also see Thompson get enough reps to take some pressure off those 3. None of them will get worn out and should stay fresh this season this season. I'll be a little surprised if we have a 1000 yard rusher because of the way we spread the wealth. But one of those 3 will flirt with 1000

4. Guidry is the real deal. He can take the top off. Whop is the real deal. He will be a very good freshman SEC WR. We arent going to sling it- but we will throw it 45% of the time and hit alot of big plays. Why? Because we #RTGDF.

5. We have the best DL in the country. Our 2nd group on the DL is better than Clemson's 2nd group

6. Our OL will be damn good and we have depth this year. We didnt have depth last year. People seem to forget that.

7. We have a top 10 D in the country. this is what gets you into the championship playoff.

8. People trying to down Fitz- today.....TODAY NFL scouts consider him a 3rd-4th round pick. Thats today. If you dont think our QB is highly-touted- you are a moron. Fitz is working to play his way into the 1st-2nd round draft slot. I expect him to have a good year because he has better talent at WR and his TE's have grown up. Plus, JoMo will have him dump alot more passes to his TB's- and that strengthens the ol completion percentage.

9. Our Front 7 is stupid good.

10. State-Bama in Tuscaloosa decides the West champ.

11. Sorry- I'm not sold on Lemonis. We hired our 5th or 6th choice to be HC. Lemon inherits a really good team in 2019- and would have to try hard to **** it up. But 2020 and beyond will be his judge and jury. We shall see.

HailState

AlSwearengen
08-08-2018, 08:38 PM
11. I am curious who 3 and 4 were.

msstate7
08-08-2018, 08:42 PM
11. I am curious who 3 and 4 were.

Probably 34 himself... he's brilliant you know. Told me so himself

KOdawg1
08-08-2018, 08:45 PM
*sees thread is started by Coach34*

*thinks to myself, "I bet he's saying he was right about something*

*opens thread*

Yep

TUSK
08-08-2018, 08:49 PM
1. MSU’s DL is not better than Clemson’s. A comparison to Bammer/AU would be reasonable.
2. I’ll give ya +6.5 if you’d like to make another bet.

Liverpooldawg
08-08-2018, 08:56 PM
You just have a thing about Luke. I'm a family friend. I have no idea at this point what is going on so don't ask. What I DO know is your remarks have hurt, not helped. Sometimes it's just better to shut it. You just don't know when to quit. I hope this makes you proud. My guess is it will...sad that is.

BuckyIsAB****
08-08-2018, 08:59 PM
Im not putting a guy who is going to average 4 YPC on the bench. Aeris is more proven. Im not doubting Kylin. He is one of the better talents I have seen. He was underrated out of HS I knew when I saw him gash MC defense in the playoffs on a badly coached columbus team that he was the real deal. But until he proves it Aeris is the rightful starter.

I do agree Kylin has a higher ceiling though

KOdawg1
08-08-2018, 09:00 PM
You just have a thing about Luke. I'm a family friend. I have no idea at this point what is going on so don't ask. What I DO know is your remarks have hurt, not helped. Sometimes it's just better to shut it. You just don't know when to quit. I hope this makes you proud. My guess is it will...sad that is.

+1

I like most of what C34 has to say, but his obsession with Luke is creepy, sad, and has gone way too far.

BrunswickDawg
08-08-2018, 09:00 PM
*sees thread is started by Coach34*

*thinks to myself, "I bet he's saying he was right about something*

*opens thread*

Yep

Well, expecting C34 not to brag about being right is like asking Hugh Freeze to quit calling hookers....

But he's pretty spot on with everything in the post. Especially #8. I told y'all in 2013 that Fitz was the real deal - and when he goes in the top 3 rounds I'll take a page out of 34s book -

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Turfdawg67
08-08-2018, 09:04 PM
1.) Let it go.
2.) Aeris will be drafted in the 5th or 6th round thanks to his ability and more so this season.
3.) We will have two backs close to 1000 yds this yr. Similarly to 2000 or 2001 w/ Walker and Miller.
4.) Just because we RTGDF in the past doesn't mean JoMo will follow suit. The % will be close though.
5.) - 7.) Yessir!
8.) Agreed but Green was already grown up, but under utilized. This will change thanks to Moorhead.
9.) Resounding yes!
10.) We'll be once again playing the refs + Bama. But if we play like last yr and don't pucker up in the 4th qtr like '17, we'll win.
11.) Agreed. I think Cohen's ego (along w/ the candidate(s)) got in the way from hiring the best guy, but we'll be okay... and we'll be damn great next year!

Coach34
08-08-2018, 09:10 PM
1. MSU’s DL is not better than Clemson’s.

I'm saying State's 2-deep is better than Clemson's. State will have more DL players drafted in April than Clemson- you want some of that bet?

Coach34
08-08-2018, 09:15 PM
11. I am curious who 3 and 4 were.

McDonnell
Schloss
Tadlock
Corbin

All were ahead of Lemon (his nickname). And thats not all that had a shot at it. Not saying Lemon wont work out- but he inherits a really good team. His ultimate judgement comes in 2020 and 2021 when he has to sustain it.

Coach34
08-08-2018, 09:17 PM
You just have a thing about Luke. I'm a family friend. I have no idea at this point what is going on so don't ask. What I DO know is your remarks have hurt, not helped. Sometimes it's just better to shut it. You just don't know when to quit. I hope this makes you proud. My guess is it will...sad that is.

I dont have a damn thing for Belmont. He is the most consistent .220 hitter in college baseball history. He is what we have said he is. Best of luck to him at his new school.

Coach34
08-08-2018, 09:20 PM
Im not putting a guy who is going to average 4 YPC on the bench. Aeris is more proven.

Aeris will play alot. But by midseason- it will be obvious who the starter is and who the NFL talent is. Aeris is not going to get drafted. He is not fast enough. He is a solid player and could make a roster- but he is not fast enough to get drafted. The Combine would hurt him alot. Hill is a top 3 round draft pick and will breakout. It will be easy to spot the difference this Fall.

HailState

99jc
08-08-2018, 09:26 PM
Aeris will play alot. But by midseason- it will be obvious who the starter is and who the NFL talent is. Aeris is not going to get drafted. He is not fast enough. He is a solid player and could make a roster- but he is not fast enough to get drafted. The Combine would hurt him alot. Hill is a top 3 round draft pick and will breakout. It will be easy to spot the difference this Fall.

HailState

Dang I need a drink I agree with 34 on everything he said even lemon.

Liverpooldawg
08-08-2018, 09:43 PM
I dont have a damn thing for Belmont. He is the most consistent .220 hitter in college baseball history. He is what we have said he is. Best of luck to him at his new school.

Again, sometimes it better to shut it. You just can't do it. I have little inside knowledge about MSU sports, but when I do I have said so, without revealing sources. On this particular subject I DO, and your conduct has been detrimental to MSU. It's going to reach well beyond Luke Alexander. It's so YOU to lead off a post "heading into the season" with your current obsession. THAT season doesn't start till 2019.

BeardoMSU
08-08-2018, 09:59 PM
All were ahead of Lemon (his nickname).

I thought fruit-themed nicknames were a no-no, around here?**

I kid, I kid.

Outside of your continued Luke-hate, which I can only gather is somehow cathartic for you, pretty much agree with everything else you said.

ShotgunDawg
08-08-2018, 10:08 PM
Again, sometimes it better to shut it. You just can't do it. .

I thought you were the free speech guy?

Or is it just speech you agree with?

Dawg61
08-08-2018, 10:23 PM
You're wrong about one thing. His nickname is Lemons not Lemon.

BeardoMSU
08-08-2018, 10:28 PM
You're wrong about one thing. His nickname is Lemons not Lemon.

Lemon Party?**

BuckyIsAB****
08-08-2018, 10:30 PM
I thought you were the free speech guy?

Or is it just speech you agree with?

Rep

Liverpooldawg
08-08-2018, 10:37 PM
I thought you were the free speech guy?

Or is it just speech you agree with?

Actually Shotgun I am practicing free speech. When you have true free speech you are entitled to say whatever you want. It goes without saying that if you have free speech so do others. In other words you are not immune to the response to what you say. There is another facet to that. Freedom without responsibility is soon lost. We are seeing that now on the national stage.

Commercecomet24
08-08-2018, 10:40 PM
Lemon Party?**

The Lemon Song-Zeppelin. Great song!

Dawg61
08-08-2018, 11:13 PM
Lemon Party?**

You googled it and giggled.

ShotgunDawg
08-08-2018, 11:15 PM
You googled it and giggled.

Hopefully he doesn't have Lemonbooty

BeardoMSU
08-08-2018, 11:19 PM
You googled it and giggled.

Lol, I hope not.

Disclaimer: Do Not. I Repeat. DO. NOT. Google "lemon party".*****

preachermatt83
08-08-2018, 11:20 PM
He prefers LeMo. I know that for an absolute fact. (Asked him)

preachermatt83
08-08-2018, 11:21 PM
Good post C34. Agree for the most part on every point except the last one. LeMo will win a natty here.

BeardoMSU
08-08-2018, 11:24 PM
God post C34.

I would expect a preacher to know Commandment #1, bro**

BeardoMSU
08-08-2018, 11:29 PM
Agree for the most part on every point except the last one. LeMo will win a natty here.

I sure hope he wins a NC here. I said I agreed with 34 earlier, but only regarding the statement that we settled for someone down the list a bit. Doesn't mean the guy won't be great, but Cohen still wanted Corbin or McD.

preachermatt83
08-08-2018, 11:31 PM
I would expect a preacher to know Commandment #1, bro**

Whoops. Should have been good obviously

Dawg61
08-08-2018, 11:32 PM
He prefers LeMo. I know that for an absolute fact. (Asked him)

Cool. He's Lemons till he gets us to Omaha. Probably still Lemons after that if I'm being honest. I like Lemons.

TUSK
08-09-2018, 12:10 AM
I'm saying State's 2-deep is better than Clemson's. State will have more DL players drafted in April than Clemson- you want some of that bet?

I'm down with that if you will lay out the specific terms.

BeardoMSU
08-09-2018, 12:43 AM
I'm down with that if you will lay out the specific terms.

Terms are as follows: if you win, it’s never acknowledged;if he wins, you get daily reminders, it will serve as your eulogy, and it’s engraved on your headstone. Remember, dude...Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart kid, and you’ll never go wrong”.********

Pit Bull
08-09-2018, 01:07 AM
You've gone MAD!!…..stop using Mind Altering Drugs!

Pit Bull
08-09-2018, 01:12 AM
1. MSU?s DL is not better than Clemson?s. A comparison to Bammer/AU would be reasonable.
2. I?ll give ya +6.5 if you?d like to make another bet.

This^^^^. I was going to say exactly the same thing. We may be comparable to Auburn and BAMA's DL.....may be.

TUSK
08-09-2018, 01:19 AM
Terms are as follows: if you win, it’s never acknowledged;if he wins, you get daily reminders, it will serve as your eulogy, and it’s engraved on your headstone. Remember, dude...Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart kid, and you’ll never go wrong”.********

C34 has taken only one of my many proffered bets... when he lost said bet (in spectacular fashion), he manned up & paid up....

It was the "we believe year", I think.... 6packSpeak days.... IIRC....

msstate7
08-09-2018, 06:59 AM
Obviously it's early, but mock drafts have 2 Clemson dlinemen going top 5 and another top 20. If this is correct, they're better than us

Dallas_Dawg
08-09-2018, 07:18 AM
So our rally fruit will be a Lemon this year. Got it

Dolphus Raymond
08-09-2018, 07:34 AM
Actually Shotgun I am practicing free speech. When you have true free speech you are entitled to say whatever you want. It goes without saying that if you have free speech so do others. In other words you are not immune to the response to what you say. There is another facet to that. Freedom without responsibility is soon lost. We are seeing that now on the national stage.
This.

lastmajordog
08-09-2018, 07:48 AM
The Lemon Song-Zeppelin. Great song!

A M E N !!!!!!!!!!!

louisvilledawg
08-09-2018, 08:14 AM
1. MSU?s DL is not better than Clemson?s. A comparison to Bammer/AU would be reasonable.
2. I?ll give ya +6.5 if you?d like to make another bet.

According to them newfangled gambling casino places on the coast, Bammer is -19.5 against MSU as we speak.

JoseBrown
08-09-2018, 08:23 AM
It's going to reach well beyond Luke Alexander.

Care to elaborate? I can only remember one other player that liked to run around after games with no shirt on besides FB. Is that what you mean? More players gonna get the Axe? Or something else?

I seen it dawg
08-09-2018, 08:27 AM
Again, sometimes it better to shut it. You just can't do it. I have little inside knowledge about MSU sports, but when I do I have said so, without revealing sources. On this particular subject I DO, and your conduct has been detrimental to MSU. It's going to reach well beyond Luke Alexander. It's so YOU to lead off a post "heading into the season" with your current obsession. THAT season doesn't start till 2019.

Reach beyond foambat? Good. If they are so soft this truly effects them then leave. ****ing crybabies.

Bully13
08-09-2018, 08:29 AM
1. There is absolutely no reason in the world to rip into a MSU player like that. You are basically self promoting with absolute no regard to the health of our athletic dept which is very selfish on your part.

somebodyshotmypaw
08-09-2018, 08:32 AM
If you watch the film, Aeris was clearly a better back than Hill in 2017, and it's not even debatable. But I agree with coach that Hill has more potential, and Hill is certainly better than Aeris was at the same point in his career. It is possible that 2018 is the year that Hill is better than Aeris. We will see. It wouldn't surprise me. Hill has a much higher ceiling than Aeris.

Bubb Rubb
08-09-2018, 08:41 AM
Obviously it's early, but mock drafts have 2 Clemson dlinemen going top 5 and another top 20. If this is correct, they're better than us

Their d-line is much better than ours. Coach was saying our second team is better than their second team...and he's saying that we have more drafted. I'd have to see who all is eligible for the draft on Clemson's side before I took that bet. As for our second team being better than theirs, I'd like to hear how he quantifies that.

As far as his overall post, I'd break it down like this:

65% of it is common knowledge that he's claiming to be groundbreaking
25% of it is "Hey, look at me"
10% of it is utter nonsense

In other words, a typical Coach post.

TrapGame
08-09-2018, 09:32 AM
Every time C34 posts now I'm like...


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SeveralLeanAmericanalligator-max-1mb.gif

msstate7
08-09-2018, 09:43 AM
1. There is absolutely no reason in the world to rip into a MSU player like that. You are basically self promoting with absolute no regard to the health of our athletic dept which is very selfish on your part.

You're talking about C34. If he makes some sort of proclamation, he'd rather that happen even if it's bad for miss state than he be wrong and something good happen for state

Coach34
08-09-2018, 10:30 AM
1. There is absolutely no reason in the world to rip into a MSU player like that. You are basically self promoting with absolute no regard to the health of our athletic dept which is very selfish on your part.

It's amazing to me how this same standard has never applied to Brandon Holloway

KOdawg1
08-09-2018, 10:35 AM
It's amazing to me how this same standard has never applied to Brandon Holloway

I get what you're saying, but I think most were angry at Mullen for repeatedly putting Holloway in the position to fail rather than ripping Holloway directly

TaleofTwoDogs
08-09-2018, 10:38 AM
Their d-line is much better than ours. Coach was saying our second team is better than their second team...As for our second team being better than theirs, I'd like to hear how he quantifies that.

Wait, you start a post with an unsubstantiated claim and then call out C34 for doing the same. Not cool.

msstate7
08-09-2018, 10:51 AM
Wait, you start a post with an unsubstantiated claim and then call out C34 for doing the same. Not cool.

Are mock drafts and a consensus among college football writers acceptable?

Coach34
08-09-2018, 10:59 AM
Are mock drafts and a consensus among college football writers acceptable?

Clemson's starting DL is very good. Ours is very close but maybe not quite as talented overall. Still doesnt mean our guys wont produce as well as theirs. Clemson does not have the depth we posess tho. Scouts are saying Sweat is late 1st-early 2nd round and Green has 3rd-4th round potential. And some of those same scouts say Rivers might be better than both of them.

Coach34
08-09-2018, 11:09 AM
I get what you're saying, but I think most were angry at Mullen for repeatedly putting Holloway in the position to fail rather than ripping Holloway directly

Myself and others are angry at Begley's sidepiece and Henderson for doing the same. But let's not act like people didnt rip the hell out of Holloway- myself included. These are college players that play on TV. Criticism is part of what they do.

msstate7
08-09-2018, 11:11 AM
Clemson's starting DL is very good. Ours is very close but maybe not quite as talented overall. Still doesnt mean our guys wont produce as well as theirs. Clemson does not have the depth we posess tho. Scouts are saying Sweat is late 1st-early 2nd round and Green has 3rd-4th round potential. And some of those same scouts say Rivers might be better than both of them.

I hope you're right. I think we have tremendous potential

mstatefan91
08-09-2018, 11:36 AM
Live look-in at C34:

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TaleofTwoDogs
08-09-2018, 11:48 AM
Are mock drafts and a consensus among college football writers acceptable?

Kinda like those same writers that continually pick us dead last in the West. Those mock drafts are written from the same pool of sports writers. All I'm saying is this is a highly subjective topic picking the "best" in the country. If Clemson played in the SEC then a case could be built based on performance against common opponents and the "best" could be crowned at year end. Too many variables at this early stage.

Dawg61
08-09-2018, 12:25 PM
If anyone deserves getting ripped for how they played last year it'd be Skelton or possibly Pilk. Luke hit a game winner in Omaha and his defense was a big reason we made it to the CWS semis. I hope he returns if that's still possible.

smootness
08-09-2018, 12:53 PM
Clemson has probably the most talented and experienced DL in college football history. Our line is legitimately great, and sure, maybe we have more total quality DL than they do. But it is the height of homerism to say our DL is close or better. And I'm one who thinks we have the best line in the SEC, or a good shot at it. But Clemson's line is on a whole different level from even the 2nd best in the country.

BB30
08-09-2018, 01:31 PM
Clemson's starting DL is very good. Ours is very close but maybe not quite as talented overall. Still doesnt mean our guys wont produce as well as theirs. Clemson does not have the depth we posess tho. Scouts are saying Sweat is late 1st-early 2nd round and Green has 3rd-4th round potential. And some of those same scouts say Rivers might be better than both of them.

Who are these NFL scouts you have personal relationships with? Or are you just watching sportscenter 24/7?*

StateDawg44
08-09-2018, 01:35 PM
This thread is all over the place.

1bigdawg
08-09-2018, 02:16 PM
I love the discussion. Thanks, 34.

TUSK
08-09-2018, 02:25 PM
Clemson has probably the most talented and experienced DL in college football history. Our line isn't great, and sure, maybe we have more total quality DL than they do. But it is the height of homerism to say our DL is close or better. And I'm one who thinks we have the best line in the SEC, or a good shot at it. But Clemson's line is on a whole different level from even the 2nd best in the country.

I?m in this guy?s camp...

Lord McBuckethead
08-09-2018, 02:32 PM
C34, good to have you.

1. Yeah, haven't heard the PED thing. Does kind of seem like a waste. No need to ride one of our players down though.
2. I believe everyone knows that Kylin has something special. Doesn't mean he needs to be the "Guy" right now. I would love nothing better than Hill being the next Barry Sanders coming out of the backfield. Get us down the field, and then let Aeris pound it into the endzone. Nothing would make me happier. I am to the point now where it is a show me on the field. Kylin is primed for a huge season. Aeris is primed for a huge season. I see both getting 700-900 yards only due to splitting time. I will be interested in seeing runs over 15 yards and YPC stats versus percent of carries. In SEC games. Although people want to take a stand on which one should start, I really do not see it as a big deal. If they both get 18 carries a game along with Fitz 10-12 and Gibson 5, that works for me. No need to discredit anything Aeris has done in the process. Dude is a warrior.

3. Completely agree, see above.

4. I think we edge slightly closer to 50-50 on pass/run due to the three new WR options, Austin W, Guildry, and Whop. The better we can play with tempo and mix it up, the better. Now unlike years before, when we are moving the ball by running it down their throats, we better not put it into the air unless we are taking an endzone shot. That is exactly what GA did last year.

5. I think we are top 3 on DL.

6. Agree on the OL. People's feelings are going to be hurt.

7. Agree. I think Shoop helps our back end find their dominance.

8. Moorhead and the QB coach are the best thing that has ever happened to Fitz. He is going to benefit from 3 years under mullen and then get a totally new approach as a senior. He may jump up higher if he can break 3.5k yards for the season, which he would have last year if we didn't drop 30% of the throws and his injury. Give him two more games and he would have been over 3000 right there.

9. Yep. I would say both 1st, 2nd, and some 3rd string guys on the line are damn good.

10. The west will be decided by MSU, Auburn, and Alabama. No doubt about it. If I had to say right now, AL 1, MSU 2, and AU close 3.

11. I will have to see Lemonis recruit for a while. Its a wait and see for me.


Finally, man just come back to the board full time. Take a few lumps, give a few lumps, and lets move this forward.

1bigdawg
08-09-2018, 07:36 PM
2. I believe everyone knows that Kylin has something special. Doesn't mean he needs to be the "Guy" right now. I would love nothing better than Hill being the next Barry Sanders coming out of the backfield. Get us down the field, and then let Aeris pound it into the endzone. Nothing would make me happier. I am to the point now where it is a show me on the field. Kylin is primed for a huge season. Aeris is primed for a huge season. I see both getting 700-900 yards only due to splitting time. I will be interested in seeing runs over 15 yards and YPC stats versus percent of carries. In SEC games. Although people want to take a stand on which one should start, I really do not see it as a big deal. If they both get 18 carries a game along with Fitz 10-12 and Gibson 5, that works for me. No need to discredit anything Aeris has done in the process. Dude is a warrior.

4. I think we edge slightly closer to 50-50 on pass/run due to the three new WR options, Austin W, Guildry, and Whop. The better we can play with tempo and mix it up, the better. Now unlike years before, when we are moving the ball by running it down their throats, we better not put it into the air unless we are taking an endzone shot. That is exactly what GA did last year.

That's 51 carries a game and 50/50 run pass. I am not sure that is possible. I agree with all of your premises, but expect fewer total plays.

CadaverDawg
08-09-2018, 08:34 PM
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viverlibre
08-09-2018, 10:03 PM
Fitz is shaky over 20 yards, will have to improve on consistency to move up to 3rd or 4th round.

Todd4State
08-09-2018, 10:52 PM
The thing about PEDS and baseball is it just goes to show that just because you use PEDS it doesn't make you Babe Ruth or Sandy Koufax. Baseball is a lot more about hand eye coordination although I think in LA's case it was more about having a bad approach a lot of the time.

PEDS have been a part of baseball for a lot longer than the media thinks- it's just in different forms- and it's still in the game today but players mask it. I think it's hilarious that they let Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio in the HOF while others are left out.

If PEDS made you superhuman at baseball you better believe that all of these travel ball parents would be buying them up in bulk. These are the same people that want to give little Timmy Tommy John surgery because they think it will make them throw harder in the long run.

As far as my stance on LA- he walked off Ole Miss twice including the Governor's Cup and walked off Washington in the CWS. He's fine with me.

Todd4State
08-09-2018, 10:54 PM
That's 51 carries a game and 50/50 run pass. I am not sure that is possible. I agree with all of your premises, but expect fewer total plays.

I think we may pass it more. And the reason is because most of our opponents are going to still consider us a run first power team- meaning that they are going to try to take that away. Which means when we are running RPO's the receivers are probably going to be the better option on the read. I do think it will be close to 50/50 overall.

preachermatt83
08-10-2018, 12:08 AM
It's amazing to me how this same standard has never applied to Brandon Holloway

Or stone hands

preachermatt83
08-10-2018, 12:11 AM
Myself and others are angry at Begley's sidepiece and Henderson for doing the same. But let's not act like people didnt rip the hell out of Holloway- myself included. These are college players that play on TV. Criticism is part of what they do.

The day in which we live kids want all the attention in the world as long as it's kissing their tails but they can't handle it when it's anything other than how great and wonderful they are.

msstate7
08-10-2018, 07:33 AM
Or stone hands

C34 started that too

DawgRockur
08-10-2018, 07:34 AM
******* dude.. you really are sick. Find a new home and stay the 17 away from here.

smootness
08-10-2018, 08:46 AM
C34 started that too

Seriously, he pretty much started all of these. So he's using past times that he insulted State athletes to justify his current insults of State athletes. Fantastic. What a contribution.

Coach34
08-10-2018, 09:13 AM
Seriously, he pretty much started all of these. So he's using past times that he insulted State athletes to justify his current insults of State athletes. Fantastic. What a contribution.

I wish I could take credit for all of them but I can't. FoamBat is certainly one I wish I had come up with. DakAttack and Stands are probably my best 2 , altho Crooms and CroomCoastOffense werent bad. Bearshark was good. I also wish I could take credit for Moultrie Knee but someone gave that to me to use. CoastdawgGeezer is still a fun one. Good times

yjnkdawg
08-10-2018, 09:16 AM
Seriously, he pretty much started all of these. So he's using past times that he insulted State athletes to justify his current insults of State athletes. Fantastic. What a contribution.


I don't think he actually came up with Luke's stupid nick. I think it actually started as Luke hits with a foam bat , and then C34 made it personal. If it is a nickname that our players, their other friends, or family have given one of our players, then that make sense. However, for a supposedly grown mature man to do this , for derogatory purposes, to inflate his ego or make him feel important, then I think it is pretty pathetic.

Coach34
08-10-2018, 09:31 AM
These pro scouts:

https://twitter.com/Elitedawg34/status/1027923779480166400

msstate7
08-10-2018, 10:02 AM
These pro scouts:

https://twitter.com/Elitedawg34/status/1027923779480166400

They have Florida preseason #6?

Coach34
08-10-2018, 10:05 AM
They have Florida preseason #6?

Thats how many players we have ranked in the NFL scouting top 150 in preseason- 6. Tied with Clemson

msstate7
08-10-2018, 10:07 AM
Thats how many players we have ranked in the NFL scouting top 150 in preseason- 6. Tied with Clemson

Look at the numbers on the left of the teams. There's three... bama #1, Clemson #3, Florida #6

dawgday166
08-10-2018, 10:09 AM
They have Florida preseason #6?

FL has some talent down there. We better not sleep on them. And Mullen can coach when he motivated. Their D may be quite similar to our last year's D .. Grantham certainly has talent to work with.

msstate7
08-10-2018, 10:14 AM
FL has some talent down there. We better not sleep on them. And Mullen can coach when he motivated. Their D may be quite similar to our last year's D .. Grantham certainly has talent to work with.

I'm worried about that game. Mullen and grantham know all our weaknesses. We know Mullen and grantham, but easier to add some wrinkles than overcome player weaknesses

Coach34
08-10-2018, 10:16 AM
Look at the numbers on the left of the teams. There's three... bama #1, Clemson #3, Florida #6

OMG- dude:

Bama and Stanford are 1-2 with 7 players each

Clemson, State, and ND are 3,4,5 with 6 players

Fla, Miami, Michigan, and Wisky are 6-9 tied with 5 players ranked in the top 150 of possible draftees

Coach34
08-10-2018, 10:17 AM
I'm worried about that game. Mullen and grantham know all our weaknesses. We know Mullen and grantham, but easier to add some wrinkles than overcome player weaknesses

We know Mullen's weaknesses on offense without a running QB

msstate7
08-10-2018, 10:35 AM
OMG- dude:

Bama and Stanford are 1-2 with 7 players each

Clemson, State, and ND are 3,4,5 with 6 players

Fla, Miami, Michigan, and Wisky are 6-9 tied with 5 players ranked in the top 150 of possible draftees

Maybe you'll see it now...

https://s15.postimg.cc/vzzw9saaz/F6_B7_BE55-_A298-47_D1-89_D8-73_D31_C268951.jpg (https://postimg.cc/image/p9jf0cn53/)

Cooterpoot
08-10-2018, 10:40 AM
Got a friend down the road that's lost 30 lbs on the diet coffee and some pill with it. Swears by it.

smootness
08-10-2018, 10:41 AM
Maybe you'll see it now...

https://s15.postimg.cc/vzzw9saaz/F6_B7_BE55-_A298-47_D1-89_D8-73_D31_C268951.jpg (https://postimg.cc/image/p9jf0cn53/)

Bama and Stanford are tied for the most. So Bama is listed with a 1 and Stanford is listed below them without any number, signaling they are tied.

Clemson is then 3rd (after Bama and Stanford) with 6, and the two teams below them (State and ND) are tied.

Then Florida is 6th (after Bama, Stanford, Clemson, State, and ND), and the 3 teams below them are tied.

msstate7
08-10-2018, 10:43 AM
Bama and Stanford are tied for the most. So Bama is listed with a 1 and Stanford is listed below them without any number, signaling they are tied.

Clemson is then 3rd (after Bama and Stanford) with 6, and the two teams below them (State and ND) are tied.

Then Florida is 6th (after Bama, Stanford, Clemson, State, and ND), and the 3 teams below them are tied.

I am so dumb. I apologize C34 for my dumbness. Back to braves

smootness
08-10-2018, 10:46 AM
I am so dumb. I apologize C34 for my dumbness. Back to braves

I've been there, my man...

TUSK
08-10-2018, 10:49 AM
Bammer prolly has 7 1st rounders on their roster... unless that number is for the 2019 draft only...

This season's MSU/Bammer game is shaping up nicely...

smootness
08-10-2018, 10:52 AM
Bammer prolly has 7 1st rounders on their roster... unless that number is for the 2019 draft only...

This season's MSU/Bammer game is shaping up nicely...

That seems to clearly be what it is. I would guess they just took the top 150 for this year's draft and counted 'em up.

Coach34
08-10-2018, 10:52 AM
Bammer prolly has 7 1st rounders on their roster... unless that number is for the 2019 draft only...

This season's MSU/Bammer game is shaping up nicely...

This is 2019 only

Coach34
08-10-2018, 10:59 AM
So in summary- we have 6 players ranked in the top 150 draftable players for 2019 which is tied for 3rd best in the country. . Around 250 are drafted each year and I still maintain we end up with 8 or so drafted.

That should answer the "what scouts you talking to?" question. We have scouts at our practices all the time.

Bully13
08-10-2018, 11:09 AM
I get what you're saying, but I think most were angry at Mullen for repeatedly putting Holloway in the position to fail rather than ripping Holloway directly

Yep. My memory is that we were always ripping Mullen, not Brandon. Brandon simply just didn't have enough ass to be running tweengst the tackles. How the hell he survived that shit physically I'll never know. Would like to know what Brandon's up to these days. I hope he's doing well as he was a 17ing flat out warrior and gave us everything he had.

Coach34
08-10-2018, 12:58 PM
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Spiderman
08-10-2018, 09:25 PM
I wish I could take credit for all of them but I can't. FoamBat is certainly one I wish I had come up with. DakAttack and Stands are probably my best 2 , altho Crooms and CroomCoastOffense werent bad. Bearshark was good. I also wish I could take credit for Moultrie Knee but someone gave that to me to use. CoastdawgGeezer is still a fun one. Good times

Wish I could remember who all came up with the famous nicknames.

Only one's I know for sure were Drebin on 6-Pack with Peeping Croom, and Saddawg starting Rosebowl for Steve Robertson.

I wish I could remember who came up with The Swan for Gene Swindoll. Maybe DawgStudent or Heydog.

Also Horse Face for Ole Leigh Ann was a classic.

BeardoMSU
08-10-2018, 10:07 PM
Also Horse Face for Ole Leigh Ann was a classic.

Lots of horse faces out there, lol....Sarah Jessica Parker and Ann Coulter come to mind.

beretta
08-11-2018, 07:00 AM
1.
11. Sorry- I'm not sold on Lemonis. We hired our 5th or 6th choice to be HC. Lemon inherits a really good team in 2019- and would have to try hard to **** it up. But 2020 and beyond will be his judge and jury. We shall see.

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I wasn't exactly sold on the Lemonis hire either....but after further research, he is considered one of the best , if the not the best recruiter in the country.....I listened to Mangums interview the other day on bo's show, and magnum said he that lemons is the most organized baseball coach he had ever been around and his personality was contagious....Lemonis also has some really good coaches around him....Gautreau will be a HC in 3-4 years.....Fox is the most extraverted pitching coach you will ever see, and he is damn good one.....i see our 2019 baseball team in the same boat as our 2018 football team.....tons of talent, and a new, highly thought of coach and staff....

ShotgunDawg
08-11-2018, 08:44 AM
Wish I could remember who all came up with the famous nicknames.

Only one's I know for sure were Drebin on 6-Pack with Peeping Croom, and Saddawg starting Rosebowl for Steve Robertson.

I wish I could remember who came up with The Swan for Gene Swindoll. Maybe DawgStudent or Heydog.

Also Horse Face for Ole Leigh Ann was a classic.

Lonnie Tinkle is a classic one.

Bulldog1
08-11-2018, 09:15 AM
This^^^^. I was going to say exactly the same thing. We may be comparable to Auburn and BAMA's DL.....may be.

We have the best defensive line in the SEC, top 3 in the NCAA.

maroonmania
08-11-2018, 03:58 PM
Again, sometimes it better to shut it. You just can't do it. I have little inside knowledge about MSU sports, but when I do I have said so, without revealing sources. On this particular subject I DO, and your conduct has been detrimental to MSU. It's going to reach well beyond Luke Alexander. It's so YOU to lead off a post "heading into the season" with your current obsession. THAT season doesn't start till 2019.

C34 will never stop having a whipping boy on the baseball team. It was Hunter Renfroe, then Reid Humphreys and now Luke Alexander. Who is next?

maroonmania
08-11-2018, 07:35 PM
I'm worried about that game. Mullen and grantham know all our weaknesses. We know Mullen and grantham, but easier to add some wrinkles than overcome player weaknesses

And trolling Mullen with the Sherrill thing is just going to make him that much more determined to try and beat us.

BeardoMSU
08-11-2018, 07:45 PM
C34 will never stop having a whipping boy on the baseball team. It was Hunter Renfroe, then Reid Humphreys and now Luke Alexander. Who is next?

It reeks of little dick syndrome, fa sho.

msstate7
09-23-2018, 10:09 AM
Remember this? Has C34 flipped on Moorhead yet?