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ChillbillyRock
07-26-2018, 04:23 PM
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ShotgunDawg
07-26-2018, 04:25 PM
The silver looks really good.

Can you post the helmets with the baseball logo?

Ari Gold
07-26-2018, 04:26 PM
**** You Larry Tempelton ..

Turfdawg67
07-26-2018, 04:33 PM
Love 'me all!

Dawgology
07-26-2018, 04:49 PM
State could purchse the rights to that logo if they really wanted to but they want to stick with that SWACtastic bullshit instead of a classic.

ScoobaDawg
07-26-2018, 04:56 PM
The silver looks really good.

Can you post the helmets with the baseball logo?

F*CK NO!

HoopsDawg
07-26-2018, 04:57 PM
State could purchse the rights to that logo if they really wanted to but they want to stick with that SWACtastic bullshit instead of a classic.

Larry Templeton + Consultant Firm = our current craptasic logo

HoopsDawg
07-26-2018, 04:59 PM
The silver looks really good.

Can you post the helmets with the baseball logo?

The baseball logo is for baseball.

bulldawg28
07-26-2018, 05:00 PM
That silver should be our new helmet.

KOdawg1
07-26-2018, 05:08 PM
The silver helmet would look great with the maroon jerseys and grey pants

BigEasyDawg
07-26-2018, 05:09 PM
That Silver is so fresh.

Commercecomet24
07-26-2018, 05:49 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ee/c5/04/eec504b9b6e0e60dd650b667257e08de.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/29/60/4e/29604ece15b45a85b679e41843c20a69.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f4/08/2b/f4082b3785c8544fb9922ec9feb47921.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/91/a2/58/91a258b54242cbf9d9553ac66a52e161.jpg

Great work again! Always love seeing your concepts!

parabrave
07-26-2018, 05:54 PM
Great work again! Always love seeing your concepts!

Did Rocky Felker have any input on your design.

Dawg61
07-26-2018, 05:59 PM
State could purchse the rights to that logo if they really wanted to but they want to stick with that SWACtastic bullshit instead of a classic.

Doubt we'd even have to purchase it. Just let Adidas cook us up some new logos. So tired of the M State on everything and the excuse that the school is pot committed on the M State logo only. By far my least favorite logo is the Mississippi State legal banner though. Whoever keeps insisting we must spell out our entire name needs to go focus on the campus dandelions instead of giving uniform advice. You don't ever see Louisiana State or Pennsylvania State on uniforms for a reason and it isn't complicated. Our state name is too damn long. Just be MSU. Nobody gives a crap if someone in Wisconsin doesn't know the difference. Those people aren't our target market. Anyone attending our school knows the damn difference between Mississippi State and Michigan State already.

http://uniformcritics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/msst-12-road-675x3801.jpg

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/yzldq9/picture102739612/ALTERNATES/FREE_1140/newman

http://uniformcritics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/msst-09-11-home-675x3801.jpg

BorneDawg
07-26-2018, 06:06 PM
You do great work chilly. Just not a fan of the MSJ logo

Irondawg
07-26-2018, 06:20 PM
You do great work chilly. Just not a fan of the MSJ logo

I’m not either but realize I’m in the minority. The baseball logo is my favorite helmet design

Skydawg1
07-26-2018, 06:26 PM
I’m not either but realize I’m in the minority. The baseball logo is my favorite helmet designBaseball logo is for Baseball. P.E.R.I.O.D.

TXDawg
07-26-2018, 06:34 PM
Doubt we'd even have to purchase it. Just let Adidas cook us up some new logos. So tired of the M State on everything and the excuse that the school is pot committed on the M State logo only. By far my least favorite logo is the Mississippi State legal banner though. Whoever keeps insisting we must spell out our entire name needs to go focus on the campus dandelions instead of giving uniform advice. You don't ever see Louisiana State or Pennsylvania State on uniforms for a reason and it isn't complicated. Our state name is too damn long. Just be MSU. Nobody gives a crap if someone in Wisconsin doesn't know the difference. Those people aren't our target market. Anyone attending our school knows the damn difference between Mississippi State and Michigan State already.

http://uniformcritics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/msst-12-road-675x3801.jpg

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/yzldq9/picture102739612/ALTERNATES/FREE_1140/newman

http://uniformcritics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/msst-09-11-home-675x3801.jpg

Number of states that start with the letter L: 1
Number of states that start with the letter P: 1

Number of states that start with the letter M: 8

Like it or not, there actually IS a reason to spell out Mississippi State. You wouldn’t believe the number of times (living in Houston, wearing maroon MState gear) I’ve been asked “Michigan State?”...”Montana State?”...”Minnesota State?” It’s ridiculous and, unfortunately, it’s not changing anytime soon.

MedDawg
07-26-2018, 06:43 PM
Doubt we'd even have to purchase it. Just let Adidas cook us up some new logos. So tired of the M State on everything and the excuse that the school is pot committed on the M State logo only. By far my least favorite logo is the Mississippi State legal banner though. Whoever keeps insisting we must spell out our entire name needs to go focus on the campus dandelions instead of giving uniform advice. You don't ever see Louisiana State or Pennsylvania State on uniforms for a reason and it isn't complicated. Our state name is too damn long. Just be MSU. Nobody gives a crap if someone in Wisconsin doesn't know the difference. Those people aren't our target market. Anyone attending our school knows the damn difference between Mississippi State and Michigan State already.

http://uniformcritics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/msst-12-road-675x3801.jpg

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/yzldq9/picture102739612/ALTERNATES/FREE_1140/newman

http://uniformcritics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/msst-09-11-home-675x3801.jpg

I really like the banner logo. I like the bottom pic where it is spelled out. I even like our M-State logo. The one thing I HATE is "Miss. State".

Todd4State
07-26-2018, 06:45 PM
I like the concepts but I like our helmets without stripes down the middle.

AusTexDawg
07-26-2018, 06:58 PM
Number of states that start with the letter L: 1
Number of states that start with the letter P: 1

Number of states that start with the letter M: 8

Like it or not, there actually IS a reason to spell out Mississippi State. You wouldn’t believe the number of times (living in Houston, wearing maroon MState gear) I’ve been asked “Michigan State?”...”Montana State?”...”Minnesota State?” It’s ridiculous and, unfortunately, it’s not changing anytime soon.

+1
On two separate occasions in the last month someone asked me “Is that Missouri State or Montana State?” (and they were both sincere questions, not trolling). Since I learned that Missouri State uses maroon and white, I cut them a tiny bit of slack, but the branding as “Mississippi State” is useful (and doesn’t look bad on the basketball uniforms).

MagicDawg
07-26-2018, 07:32 PM
These helmets look excellent, but... frankly, I prefer the current logo. I like the M-State, I like the banner, and I personally do not say "MSU" when referring to my university. I say "Mississippi State," or when talking to family or SEC folks, "State." The only time I say "MSU" is during the cheer. That's it.

I know I'm in the minority but I do think it's important branding. That M-State we have now is extremely useful and versatile compared to that ruffled-ribbon monstrosity we had under Croom/Templeton.

Hope I don't get expelled from EliteDawgs.

Lord McBuckethead
07-26-2018, 07:35 PM
Baseball logo is for Baseball. P.E.R.I.O.D.

Also, the baseball logo looks like a high school.logo when you put it on a helmet.

Lord McBuckethead
07-26-2018, 07:37 PM
I really like the banner logo. I like the bottom pic where it is spelled out. I even like our M-State logo. The one thing I HATE is "Miss. State".

I concur. Miss. State is bullshit. It's MS State, Mississippi State, or just State. 17 Miss. State

ChillbillyRock
07-26-2018, 08:19 PM
Did Rocky Felker have any input on your design.

?86 uni?s definitely had influence. Good eye.

RocketDawg
07-26-2018, 08:24 PM
I like the concepts but I like our helmets without stripes down the middle.

Disagree. The stripe makes it look like an MSU football helmet instead of a generic one that was picked up at Wal Mart. Which, by the way and going on a tangent ... the Alabama white jerseys look like a Wal Mart sweatshirt ... way too plain. But at least they don't have gator skin or whatever on them.

NCDawg
07-26-2018, 08:25 PM
I like the concepts but I like our helmets without stripes down the middle.

I agree. Also, I don't care for white, silver, or black helmets- maroon only.

ShotgunDawg
07-26-2018, 09:08 PM
State could purchse the rights to that logo if they really wanted to but they want to stick with that SWACtastic bullshit instead of a classic.

Or just spend 10 min designing something similar but not exact

ShotgunDawg
07-26-2018, 09:12 PM
Baseball logo is for Baseball. P.E.R.I.O.D.

This is the best helmet we could ever have.

Brand recognition & simplicity. Looks like a million bucks

http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10561&d=1530038068&thumb=1

DownwardDawg
07-26-2018, 09:17 PM
I agree. The baseball logo should be THE logo. Period. Our uniforms should say State!

Pit Bull
07-26-2018, 10:02 PM
Are these our new helmets or just something you came up with? I like them

Political Hack
07-26-2018, 10:09 PM
Doubt we'd even have to purchase it. Just let Adidas cook us up some new logos. So tired of the M State on everything and the excuse that the school is pot committed on the M State logo only. By far my least favorite logo is the Mississippi State legal banner though. Whoever keeps insisting we must spell out our entire name needs to go focus on the campus dandelions instead of giving uniform advice. You don't ever see Louisiana State or Pennsylvania State on uniforms for a reason and it isn't complicated. Our state name is too damn long. Just be MSU. Nobody gives a crap if someone in Wisconsin doesn't know the difference. Those people aren't our target market. Anyone attending our school knows the damn difference between Mississippi State and Michigan State already.

http://uniformcritics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/msst-12-road-675x3801.jpg

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/yzldq9/picture102739612/ALTERNATES/FREE_1140/newman

http://uniformcritics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/msst-09-11-home-675x3801.jpg

Agree with the concept but disagree with the name. "MSU" is too generic and doesn't afford us any national recognition. Nobody else in the P5 is really branded as "State." I've never understood why we don't pound that into everyone's memory banks the same way Miami does "The U" or the Buckeyes do "THE Ohio State" or the University of Mississippi does "Ole Miss"... ok that last one is a terrible example, but you get the point.

HailState. Not HailMSU.

Love the work as always CB. That Black Ops is sweet.

Goldendawg
07-26-2018, 10:47 PM
Chillbilly, you had me at interlocking MSU!***** It's long overdue! I have never liked the MState logo. UNM had the blue M before us and we play "Johnny Come Lately" with our M with the banner across it and expect people in other parts of the country to know the difference. I know that MState will always be here, but can't we use the interlocking MSU (sightly changed if Nike really owns it) on a maroon helmet on special occasions as part of our heritage every once in a while? I pull for State, greet other State fans with Hail State, not "MState". I love the MS in baseball. Use MSU also. P.S. Is the rumor true that Richard Williams helped come up with the MState logo?

viverlibre
07-26-2018, 10:58 PM
Agree with the concept but disagree with the name. "MSU" is too generic and doesn't afford us any national recognition. Nobody else in the P5 is really branded as "State." I've never understood why we don't pound that into everyone's memory banks the same way Miami does "The U" or the Buckeyes do "THE Ohio State" or the University of Mississippi does "Ole Miss"... ok that last one is a terrible example, but you get the point.

HailState. Not HailMSU.

Love the work as always CB. That Black Ops is sweet.

John Cohen please read this. Mississippi State willl always be shortend to MS State or Miss State, let's brand ourselves as "State." No one else is using it and MSU doesn't roll off the tounge like LSU, neither does Mississippi State or MS State or Miss State. We could do a ton of stuff with "State." It would take serveral years, but eventully we could have a uniqe logo.

DawgFromOxford
07-26-2018, 11:06 PM
This is the best helmet we could ever have.

Brand recognition & simplicity. Looks like a million bucks

http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10561&d=1530038068&thumb=1
https://media3.giphy.com/media/z3rrlmxUDzIfm/giphy.gif

DawgFromOxford
07-26-2018, 11:15 PM
Agree with the concept but disagree with the name. "MSU" is too generic and doesn't afford us any national recognition. Nobody else in the P5 is really branded as "State." I've never understood why we don't pound that into everyone's memory banks the same way Miami does "The U" or the Buckeyes do "THE Ohio State" or the University of Mississippi does "Ole Miss"... ok that last one is a terrible example, but you get the point.

HailState. Not HailMSU.

Love the work as always CB. That Black Ops is sweet.

"State" is still too generic from a marketing stand point. It literally tells you nothing about our school or even gives you the slightest clue that State represents Mississippi State. Sure people in MS get it, but thats a tough sell to try and gain national traction and recognition by labeling our school "State". Depending on what part of the country you live in if you said I cheer for "State" that could be Texas State, Missouri State, Fresno State, Arizona State, etc. The list goes on. There are way too many other state schools out there for anybody to try and claim and brand themselves as THE State school for the whole nation.

viverlibre
07-26-2018, 11:49 PM
"State" is still too generic from a marketing stand point. It literally tells you nothing about our school or even gives you the slightest clue that State represents Mississippi State. Sure people in MS get it, but thats a tough sell to try and gain national traction and recognition by labeling our school "State". Depending on what part of the country you live in if you said I cheer for "State" that could be Texas State, Missouri State, Fresno State, Arizona State, etc. The list goes on. There are way too many other state schools out there for anybody to try and claim and brand themselves as THE State school for the whole nation.

"State" is waiting to be claimed, it would be very unique due to the fact that one else uses it. Does Auburn or Stanford give you and indiction of the state? No, but you know why we know what state each is in, because they took unique names and branded them.

Some people don't know now and will never know Mississippi State from Mississippi Valley State or even the Univeristy of Mississippi, that's becasue none of those are uniqe, but "State" has the potential to be.

Todd4State
07-27-2018, 12:34 AM
These helmets look excellent, but... frankly, I prefer the current logo. I like the M-State, I like the banner, and I personally do not say "MSU" when referring to my university. I say "Mississippi State," or when talking to family or SEC folks, "State." The only time I say "MSU" is during the cheer. That's it.

I know I'm in the minority but I do think it's important branding. That M-State we have now is extremely useful and versatile compared to that ruffled-ribbon monstrosity we had under Croom/Templeton.

Hope I don't get expelled from EliteDawgs.

I think the interlocking MSU and M-State logo could easily co-exist. If you look closely at the 1999 Egg Bowl we had the M-State logo on the 50 while wearing the Nike interlocking MSU.

Barking 13
07-27-2018, 12:35 AM
CB rep points given. I guess I’m the only one that likes all of it except Miss State. I’ve always been partial to the interlocking logo, but actually seeing the baseball logo on the helmet, I kinda like it. Let’s just see what combinations we can come up with.

Todd4State
07-27-2018, 12:41 AM
"State" is waiting to be claimed, it would be very unique due to the fact that one else uses it. Does Auburn or Stanford give you and indiction of the state? No, but you know why we know what state each is in, because they took unique names and branded them.

Some people don't know now and will never know Mississippi State from Mississippi Valley State or even the Univeristy of Mississippi, that's becasue none of those are uniqe, but "State" has the potential to be.


Here's the thing about "branding"- even with the M-State logo- heck even with Mississippi State literally written on our player's chests- people still get us confused.


The bottom line is winning is the best form of branding and marketing.


My conspiracy theory is LT liked the M-State logo from the Croom years and while many of us on the Internet despise him many of our athletic administrators worked under and looked up to him. And I think we're keeping it as a tribute to him. I think the whole "Well, we sold it to Nike" while I'm sure true is a BS excuse for keeping the M-State logo. Because I'm pretty sure with the SEC money we're getting we could probably get it back pretty easily. To me it's a lame excuse up there with "Well, the player's liked the really weird uniforms Adidas made for us that no one else likes" and "Brandon Holloway is a better blocker than Aeris and knows the plays better."


And as I've said, I think both logos can co-exist. As I've said before I would be totally fine with even the interlocking MSU on our helmets once a year and M-State on the helmets the other 11+ games.

Barking 13
07-27-2018, 12:55 AM
You could have a different look every game. Silver with interlocking one time, maroon mstate next, maroon baseball the next, etc.

Randolph Dupree
07-27-2018, 02:28 AM
This is the best helmet we could ever have.

Brand recognition & simplicity. Looks like a million bucks

http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10561&d=1530038068&thumb=1

This is my favorite helmet. Don't understand the dislike for the M over S on the helmets.

Saltydog
07-27-2018, 08:49 AM
Misread the posts.........Sorry......

msu15
07-27-2018, 09:03 AM
This is the best helmet we could ever have.

Brand recognition & simplicity. Looks like a million bucks

http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10561&d=1530038068&thumb=1

Helmet looks awesome, but the uniform itself looks like ****

Dawg61
07-27-2018, 09:45 AM
Helmet looks awesome, but the uniform itself looks like ****

It's not a serious uniform. It's just for fun to celebrate the baseball team making it to the semifinals of the CWS.

smootness
07-27-2018, 09:46 AM
"State" is waiting to be claimed, it would be very unique due to the fact that one else uses it. Does Auburn or Stanford give you and indiction of the state? No, but you know why we know what state each is in, because they took unique names and branded them.

Some people don't know now and will never know Mississippi State from Mississippi Valley State or even the Univeristy of Mississippi, that's becasue none of those are uniqe, but "State" has the potential to be.

Because 'State' is literally the second least unique name associated with a university. It is not unique at all, which is precisely why no one uses it. You can't ever nationally brand 'State' because that term is used for someone everywhere you go. If you use 'State' in and around Atlanta, they assume you mean Georgia State. If you use it in Arizona, they assume you mean Arizona State. Literally every state has one. Even if you use it constantly for us, the rest of the country won't ever catch onto that. No other state has a prominent 'Stanford' or 'Auburn.' Everybody has a State. There is no equating those things.

Short answer - No one else uses it nationally. Because everyone uses it locally. It would be like saying, 'We should use 'University' because no one else uses it. It's unique.'

For the record, I do love just ' State' on our uniforms and hate the banner. But guess what:
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MedDawg
07-27-2018, 09:47 AM
This is the best helmet we could ever have.

Brand recognition & simplicity. Looks like a million bucks

http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10561&d=1530038068&thumb=1

Can we see the football uniform in pinstripes?

smootness
07-27-2018, 09:52 AM
The baseball logo is the intertwined M and S.........

Wut

smootness
07-27-2018, 09:53 AM
The baseball logo is the intertwined M and S.........

Wut

ShotgunDawg
07-27-2018, 09:57 AM
I think only using the M and S for baseball only is one of the absolute dumbest things that any MSU fan could ever want.

I love baseball, but it's not nearly the brand builder as football or even basketball. To have our best logo & brand builder reserved only for baseball seems like a massive waste & foolish

smootness
07-27-2018, 09:59 AM
We use the M-State for branding purposes. They tried to change the baseball logo, too, but Polk refused so we got to keep that one. At least that's the way I heard it. It's not as a tribute to anyone, they just want to keep the branding consistent. The problem is, they picked the worst logo as the one to use everywhere. The banner logo particularly SUCKS.

Lord McBuckethead
07-27-2018, 10:01 AM
I think only using the M and S for baseball only is one of the absolute dumbest things that any MSU fan could ever want.

I love baseball, but it's not nearly the brand builder as football or even basketball. To have our best logo & brand builder reserved only for baseball seems like a massive waste & foolish

I happen to think that the diagonal MSU logo is better than the M over S baseball logo. I would rather we used the MSU logo exclusively for all sports.

sleepy dawg
07-27-2018, 10:01 AM
I think only using the M and S for baseball only is one of the absolute dumbest things that any MSU fan could ever want.

I love baseball, but it's not nearly the brand builder as football or even basketball. To have our best logo & brand builder reserved only for baseball seems like a massive waste & foolish

I agree. It's just a badass logo. I want that logo to represent us.

ShotgunDawg
07-27-2018, 10:02 AM
I happen to think that the diagonal MSU logo is better than the M over S baseball logo. I would rather we used the MSU logo exclusively for all sports.

Understandable. I just think the MSU logo looks a little 80s & directional school like.

ShotgunDawg
07-27-2018, 10:04 AM
I agree. It's just a badass logo. I want that logo to represent us.

This

It's clean, simple, & recognizable. It's easily our best logo that due to it's nostalgia to a small segment of the fan base, is relegated to a 2nd tier sport in terms of profile & marketing.

TUSK
07-27-2018, 12:15 PM
That's some sweet work, Chillbilly...

If it's not too much trouble, would you do a Bammer Helmet? Instead of a boring number on the side, maybe class it up with a Meth Lab/Weed Leaf... or an Old Trailer House... a Knocked Up Cousin-Sister might be worth considering, as well...

TIA!

Cooterpoot
07-27-2018, 12:22 PM
I really don't get why more State people can't see the banner M logo sucks. It's just not something kids today care for and it doesn't represent a great program history. We should've never moved to it. They should redesign our logo. Compare it to the FSU spear. The Clemson paw print. Really, just about any design is better. Just give us a good logo. Scrap that English/history dept. looking M.

Pollodawg
07-27-2018, 01:42 PM
The grey helmets with the interlocking MSU and our current uni combo with the grey pants and maroon piping. Lock it down. That would be slick.

biggun
07-27-2018, 02:06 PM
Not a fan of the Croom like white helmets. At all. Bad memories.

Dawg61
07-27-2018, 02:12 PM
Baseball logos should be for baseball teams not every sport.

Goldendawg
07-27-2018, 02:36 PM
The grey helmets with the interlocking MSU and our current uni combo with the grey pants and maroon piping. Lock it down. That would be slick.

I don't care for the gray pants. Now who had them for decades before us? Oh, yeah, the rebs. That's the first thing I think of when we wear them. What is wrong with our school colors, maroon and white, with special uni's every once in a while? JMO.

MagicDawg
07-27-2018, 02:37 PM
If you use 'State' in and around Atlanta, they assume you mean Georgia State.3049

I'm not sure this is completely so. I think if you're talking to SEC or ACC folks in this area - and I've been here 25 years - they really do think of Mississippi State. I frequently see Auburn people online talking about "going to the State game" and they are not talking about Georgia State.

I think "State" means Mississippi State if you are talking to SEC folks and many ACC folks. Context is crucial, too. And I'm not a fan of branding "State" as a solo term. But "Hail State" has been exceptionally effective for us.

Dawgtini
07-27-2018, 07:33 PM
Doubt we'd even have to purchase it. Just let Adidas cook us up some new logos. So tired of the M State on everything and the excuse that the school is pot committed on the M State logo only. By far my least favorite logo is the Mississippi State legal banner though. Whoever keeps insisting we must spell out our entire name needs to go focus on the campus dandelions instead of giving uniform advice. You don't ever see Louisiana State or Pennsylvania State on uniforms for a reason and it isn't complicated. Our state name is too damn long. Just be MSU. Nobody gives a crap if someone in Wisconsin doesn't know the difference. Those people aren't our target market. Anyone attending our school knows the damn difference between Mississippi State and Michigan State already.

http://uniformcritics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/msst-12-road-675x3801.jpg

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/yzldq9/picture102739612/ALTERNATES/FREE_1140/newman

http://uniformcritics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/msst-09-11-home-675x3801.jpg
The banner logo like in the first pick is my favorite. Wish we used it everywhere but baseball.

viverlibre
07-27-2018, 09:28 PM
Because 'State' is literally the second least unique name associated with a university. It is not unique at all, which is precisely why no one uses it. You can't ever nationally brand 'State' because that term is used for someone everywhere you go. If you use 'State' in and around Atlanta, they assume you mean Georgia State. If you use it in Arizona, they assume you mean Arizona State. Literally every state has one. Even if you use it constantly for us, the rest of the country won't ever catch onto that. No other state has a prominent 'Stanford' or 'Auburn.' Everybody has a State. There is no equating those things.

Short answer - No one else uses it nationally. Because everyone uses it locally. It would be like saying, 'We should use 'University' because no one else uses it. It's unique.'

For the record, I do love just ' State' on our uniforms and hate the banner. But guess what:
3049


No, no, no, this is the kind of small minded thinking we have to get away from.

We are not competing with GA State, CO State, Montana State, Jackson State, Alabama State, etc., for attention. We are competing with Louisiana State and Florida State for attention, neither goes by "State." The Ohio State University is a little out of our legue, but they are never refered to as "State" either.

Now we also need to consider NC State, Michigan State and Oklahoma State. I lived in NC in the 90s and NC State didn't even get attention in Raleigh. Obviously Michigan State and Oklahoma State are big time programs, but rarely would one mention either of those and us in the same conversation.

Mississippi is just too long, too many syllables, the confederates realized this long ago, that's why they do not use the "University of Mississippi" or "Mississippi."

Do we want to be "MState?" it just doesn't fit. No one in our college sports sphere is know as "State" with the possible exceptions of Oklahoma State and Michigan State and neither is considered "southern football."

State is our ticket, we need to claim it now.

DawgFromOxford
07-28-2018, 12:54 AM
No, no, no, this is the kind of small minded thinking we have to get away from.

We are not competing with GA State, CO State, Montana State, Jackson State, Alabama State, etc., for attention. We are competing with Louisiana State and Florida State for attention, neither goes by "State." The Ohio State University is a little out of our legue, but they are never refered to as "State" either.

Now we also need to consider NC State, Michigan State and Oklahoma State. I lived in NC in the 90s and NC State didn't even get attention in Raleigh. Obviously Michigan State and Oklahoma State are big time programs, but rarely would one mention either of those and us in the same conversation.

Mississippi is just too long, too many syllables, the confederates realized this long ago, that's why they do not use the "University of Mississippi" or "Mississippi."

Do we want to be "MState?" it just doesn't fit. No one in our college sports sphere is know as "State" with the possible exceptions of Oklahoma State and Michigan State and neither is considered "southern football."

State is our ticket, we need to claim it now.

I'm glad you aren't in charge of our branding or marketing.

Dallas_Dawg
07-28-2018, 02:15 AM
I'm a fan of those baseball tribute football uniforms especially the helmet.
It is easily recognizable and there's not another logo quite like it

smootness
07-28-2018, 10:17 AM
I'm not sure this is completely so. I think if you're talking to SEC or ACC folks in this area - and I've been here 25 years - they really do think of Mississippi State. I frequently see Auburn people online talking about "going to the State game" and they are not talking about Georgia State.

I think "State" means Mississippi State if you are talking to SEC folks and many ACC folks. Context is crucial, too. And I'm not a fan of branding "State" as a solo term. But "Hail State" has been exceptionally effective for us.

Context obviously matters. If you are talking to a fan of SEC football about SEC football, sure, they may know you're talking about us. But if you just tell someone you're going to State, they will absolutely assume you mean Georgia State.

MagicDawg
07-28-2018, 10:33 AM
Okay. I'm still not convinced but I'm not going to argue this further. I will certainly agree that GaState has been increasing in awareness since they established their football program, but the word 'absolutely' doesn't match my experience.

Todd4State
07-28-2018, 01:58 PM
Context obviously matters. If you are talking to a fan of SEC football about SEC football, sure, they may know you're talking about us. But if you just tell someone you're going to State, they will absolutely assume you mean Georgia State.

So, every time someone mentions "State"- they automatically think Georgia State? Right.