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Bulldog1
07-25-2018, 02:57 PM
https://twitter.com/joeltcoleman/status/1022194575929167872?s=21

https://twitter.com/robbiefaulk247/status/1022209031388254208?s=21

West Tn Dawg
07-25-2018, 03:04 PM
Man, that sure came in under the radar!

Jack Lambert
07-25-2018, 03:05 PM
Can't see it what is it?

StarkVegasSteve
07-25-2018, 03:10 PM
Really wish we could've kept Vansau. Him and Anderson are big losses from a depth standpoint in the outfield.

BankerDog
07-25-2018, 03:10 PM
Vansau has been lighting it up in summer ball. That makes 4 transfers now: Vansau, Anderson, Ashcraft, and Stephens. We really need to nail our pitching recruiting hard.

I've heard we'll allow Stewart to come on during the fall and let him see how it likes it. If not he'll transfer to a Juco. Interesting take, but can be done.

TXDawg
07-25-2018, 03:18 PM
Here's the actual interviews. Sounds like they're going after Stewart really hard:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7Q1HHkElsE

BiscuitEater
07-25-2018, 03:53 PM
Really wish we could've kept Vansau. Him and Anderson are big losses from a depth standpoint in the outfield.

Hate it when guys leave BUT realistically, where was he going to play? With Jake coming back, no room in the OF. Last year .. Hunter had 21 hits in 110 ABs, hit .191.

Homedawg
07-25-2018, 04:00 PM
Vansau has been lighting it up in summer ball. That makes 4 transfers now: Vansau, Anderson, Ashcraft, and Stephens. We really need to nail our pitching recruiting hard.

I've heard we'll allow Stewart to come on during the fall and let him see how it likes it. If not he'll transfer to a Juco. Interesting take, but can be done.

that would suck. and we would lose a roster spot AND that scholarship money. That's way worse than him going straight to juco.

RiverCityDawg
07-25-2018, 04:42 PM
I've heard we'll allow Stewart to come on during the fall and let him see how it likes it. If not he'll transfer to a Juco. Interesting take, but can be done.

Great recruiting approach. Chances are if he makes it here and is around his teammates, college freedom, college girls, etc he'll stay. College can be among the greatest years of one's life. Yeah, money, I know... Still seems like it would be pretty easy to keep him if he just made here.

Todd4State
07-25-2018, 07:16 PM
If we let Stewart have a trial run it's risky as far as scholarship money but I think it potentially has a HUGE reward for us. Another thing about Stewart- Scott Boras is his advisor now. I would think that would likely be in our favor as well. Having Ginn and Stewart for two seasons- assuming Ginn leaves after his sophomore year- gives us two guys that are legit front of the line SEC arms and that's what you need to win a National Championship. If they have success it could very well lead to other first round type talents committing and coming to MSU- like Vanderbilt and Florida. To me, it's worth the roll of the dice because I feel like if we can get him to campus our odds of him staying on the team are fairly high. Hopefully it works out for him like it did Casey Mize and Brady Singer.

I like Foxhall's answer to building velocity. It sounds like a very individualized approach.

I also like that we are bringing in a new S&C coach. Our fans have noted how "small" our players have looked. Some of that is perception- but I also think that some of it reality. I also have heard that our old S&C coach was possibly in part to blame for many of the Tommy John surgeries a few years ago because he and Wes Johnson weren't communicating like they needed to.

I don't think we'll miss Vansau very much- not with MacNamee, Mangum, and Rowdey coming back plus I would think Tanner Allen would start over him in the OF as well depending on how the infield shakes out. Personally I do wish that we could have kept Anderson and Ashcraft because they are talented players.

Also- Keegan James is looking good in the Cape. He'll have a say in the weekend rotation I would think.

Homedawg
07-25-2018, 07:52 PM
I agree w basically everything you said, except the boras part. Boras is out for the best thing for his client. And the best thing might be to get back I the draft ASAP. Depends on injury. They know more than us obviously. I think it's 25-75 he makes it here. But that's way better odds than before. And I'd love to be wrong

RocketDawg
07-25-2018, 08:08 PM
Can't see it what is it?

Did you ever get your question answered? If not, it was screen shots of tweets by Joel Coleman and Robby Faulk, saying Ashcraft and Vansau are transferring, and Luke Alexander is "working through some things" and don't know if he'll be back or not. The tweet by Faulk said we're hiring FSU's S&C coach, and is expected to be formally announced by the end of the week.

maroonmania
07-25-2018, 08:11 PM
Really wish we could've kept Vansau. Him and Anderson are big losses from a depth standpoint in the outfield.

Good grief, heard people here gripe the whole year about us having Alexander as a regular in the lineup because he was batting around .220 and now we are going to mourn the transfer of a guy who played very little because he was hitting nearly 30 points worse? And one thing I've learned, summer ball stats rarely mean squat.

The Federalist Engineer
07-25-2018, 08:37 PM
The Carter gamble is a no brainer. This is as blue a chip as you can get in college baseball. We have in the past wasted scholarships on Ashcraft, Breaux, Woodruff, and probably Paul Young for zero return and Carter has more talent than any of these guys.

Vansau gave us 2 years and tried hard, we have Freshmen that need to be tested

StarkVegasSteve
07-25-2018, 09:00 PM
Good grief, heard people here gripe the whole year about us having Alexander as a regular in the lineup because he was batting around .220 and now we are going to mourn the transfer of a guy who played very little because he was hitting nearly 30 points worse? And one thing I've learned, summer ball stats rarely mean squat.

Not mourning the player, just stating the facts that it likely hurts us from a depth issue. Obviously we'll have freshman that could come in and contribute, but most freshman aren't like Mangum and can come in and adjust to SEC pitching Day 1. Heck it took Rowdey over half the year

Todd4State
07-25-2018, 09:40 PM
I agree w basically everything you said, except the boras part. Boras is out for the best thing for his client. And the best thing might be to get back I the draft ASAP. Depends on injury. They know more than us obviously. I think it's 25-75 he makes it here. But that's way better odds than before. And I'd love to be wrong

While Boras has had players go to JUCO or start out in Indy ball he's a very pro college baseball. My guess is at this point he would probably most likely advise him to go to MSU.

maroonmania
07-25-2018, 10:03 PM
Not mourning the player, just stating the facts that it likely hurts us from a depth issue. Obviously we'll have freshman that could come in and contribute, but most freshman aren't like Mangum and can come in and adjust to SEC pitching Day 1. Heck it took Rowdey over half the year

I would be willing to bet we will have several freshmen coming in that could contribute at a .191 level without any adjustments to SEC pitching.

TaleofTwoDogs
07-25-2018, 10:16 PM
Can't see it what is it?

This has happen to me a number of times. I tried switching the browser but it doesn't help. Very frustrating.

The Federalist Engineer
07-25-2018, 10:21 PM
I would be willing to bet we will have several freshmen coming in that could contribute at a .191 level without any adjustments to SEC pitching.

Heck, graham Ashcraft or Cole Gordon could hit 191 and a few HRs switching to 1b

biggun
07-25-2018, 10:22 PM
Not mourning the player, just stating the facts that it likely hurts us from a depth issue. Obviously we'll have freshman that could come in and contribute, but most freshman aren't like Mangum and can come in and adjust to SEC pitching Day 1. Heck it took Rowdey over half the year

Should not be very hard for any of our incoming freshman to surpass or at least match Vansau’s BA of .191. If it is, we are swinging and missing in recruiting, a lot like Vansau’s 2 years at the plate

smootness
07-26-2018, 07:00 AM
I would still be shocked if Stewart shows up at State. But yes, he would be an absolute game-changer, so the fact that there is still even a chance at this point is huge. If we were to get him, that is the kind of thing that can vault you to a national title.

msstate7
07-26-2018, 07:07 AM
I would still be shocked if Stewart shows up at State. But yes, he would be an absolute game-changer, so the fact that there is still even a chance at this point is huge. If we were to get him, that is the kind of thing that can vault you to a national title.

If Stewart pitches well anywhere this year, I'm gonna be pissed at AA.

Jarius
07-26-2018, 07:15 AM
Coach knows if he just gets him on campus he is more than likely going to bond over the fall with our guys and he's got him then. Our team is extremely close and if we can just get him here initially it's going to be really hard for him to want to go anywhere else.

smootness
07-26-2018, 08:06 AM
If Stewart pitches well anywhere this year, I'm gonna be pissed at AA.

Even if it's at State? Come on, man.

I love the Braves, but State will always take precedence. If Stewart kills it at State for the next 3 years, I will forever be grateful that AA drafted and didn't sign him.

Randolph Dupree
07-26-2018, 08:22 AM
If we let Stewart have a trial run it's risky as far as scholarship money but I think it potentially has a HUGE reward for us. Another thing about Stewart- Scott Boras is his advisor now. I would think that would likely be in our favor as well. Having Ginn and Stewart for two seasons- assuming Ginn leaves after his sophomore year- gives us two guys that are legit front of the line SEC arms and that's what you need to win a National Championship. If they have success it could very well lead to other first round type talents committing and coming to MSU- like Vanderbilt and Florida. To me, it's worth the roll of the dice because I feel like if we can get him to campus our odds of him staying on the team are fairly high. Hopefully it works out for him like it did Casey Mize and Brady Singer.

I like Foxhall's answer to building velocity. It sounds like a very individualized approach.

I also like that we are bringing in a new S&C coach. Our fans have noted how "small" our players have looked. Some of that is perception- but I also think that some of it reality. I also have heard that our old S&C coach was possibly in part to blame for many of the Tommy John surgeries a few years ago because he and Wes Johnson weren't communicating like they needed to.

I don't think we'll miss Vansau very much- not with MacNamee, Mangum, and Rowdey coming back plus I would think Tanner Allen would start over him in the OF as well depending on how the infield shakes out. Personally I do wish that we could have kept Anderson and Ashcraft because they are talented players.

Also- Keegan James is looking good in the Cape. He'll have a say in the weekend rotation I would think.

My buddy that is a scout and he has been impressed with Keegan this summer. Said he's throwing the ball a lot better than he was just a couple of months ago.

Also, FWIW, I've been a little hesitant to go all in with Lemonis but I'm on the bus now. All in. Hail State!

msstate7
07-26-2018, 09:05 AM
Even if it's at State? Come on, man.

I love the Braves, but State will always take precedence. If Stewart kills it at State for the next 3 years, I will forever be grateful that AA drafted and didn't sign him.

I'll be happy if carter makes it state. I'll be mad at AA at the same time. Basketball, I like state more than anyone. Football, I like state more than anyone. Baseball, state is 2nd to the braves. College baseball just isn't that great of a sport with the best players going milb, scholarship limitations, umpiring is awful, and college baseball just isn't a national sport like basketball and football

ScoobaDawg
07-26-2018, 10:40 AM
This has happen to me a number of times. I tried switching the browser but it doesn't help. Very frustrating.

Are you on a work computer? Something is blocking your access to twitter.

Bully13
07-26-2018, 11:07 AM
I'll be happy if carter makes it state. I'll be mad at AA at the same time. Basketball, I like state more than anyone. Football, I like state more than anyone. Baseball, state is 2nd to the braves. College baseball just isn't that great of a sport with the best players going milb, scholarship limitations, umpiring is awful, and college baseball just isn't a national sport like basketball and football

You'd pull for the Braves over MSU in an exhibition game?

KOdawg1
07-26-2018, 11:10 AM
If Stewart pitches well anywhere this year, I'm gonna be pissed at AA.

I love the Braves. I'm going to a game tomorrow night.

But MSU > Braves and it's really not close.

msstate7
07-26-2018, 11:19 AM
You'd pull for the Braves over MSU in an exhibition game?

In an exhibition game, I'd pull for state. Love underdogs

Bully13
07-26-2018, 11:20 AM
In an exhibition game, I'd pull for state. Love underdogs

And if the benches cleared, who would you be pulling for? *****

msstate7
07-26-2018, 11:23 AM
I love the Braves. I'm going to a game tomorrow night.

But MSU football and basketball > Braves > state baseball and it's really not close.

Fify

It's just the college baseball sport in general is pretty boring at times. The crazy slow pace of play, bunting in the 1st inning, pass balls/wild pitches, etc... just doesn't come close to watching the braves (even when they suck). To each his own though, I just prefer mlb to college baseball... I prefer college football and basketball to pros though

KB21
07-26-2018, 11:27 AM
In other news, Reid Humphreys was promoted to AA. Off that 2016 team, we have:

Dakota Hudson - SP - Majors
Zac Houston - RP - AAA
Austin Sexton - SP - AA
Jack Kruger - C - AA
Nate Lowe - 1B - AA
Jacob Robson - OF - AAA
Brent Rooker - OF - AA

That doesn't include the players who are at levels lower than AA. The fact that all of these guys are at the AA level or above in what is only their 2nd full season of pro baseball is a testament to them and to the talent on that 2016 Mississippi State baseball team. All of these players are doing well at their level as well, which means they all have a chance to at least get a shot at the majors.

KOdawg1
07-26-2018, 11:28 AM
Fify

It's just the college baseball sport in general is pretty boring at times. The crazy slow pace of play, bunting in the 1st inning, pass balls/wild pitches, etc... just doesn't come close to watching the braves (even when they suck). To each his own though, I just prefer mlb to college baseball... I prefer college football and basketball to pros though

To each his own I guess

Have you been to SunTrust park yet? Going for the first time tomorrow night. Kershaw is the probable pitcher, so I'm excited to see that even though it probably means a loss, lol

smootness
07-26-2018, 11:29 AM
Even with the Braves taking priority for you, his impact on State would likely be far greater than the relatively small chance of him eventually having a big impact on the Braves MLB team.

But for me, all State sports come before anything else, at least those available to watch/follow.

smootness
07-26-2018, 11:30 AM
To each his own I guess

Have you been to SunTrust park yet? Going for the first time tomorrow night. Kershaw is the probable pitcher, so I'm excited to see that even though it probably means a loss, lol

SunTrust is great, you’re going to love it. Headed there tonight myself.

msstate7
07-26-2018, 11:33 AM
To each his own I guess

Have you been to SunTrust park yet? Going for the first time tomorrow night. Kershaw is the probable pitcher, so I'm excited to see that even though it probably means a loss, lol

Been to several. Love it

msstate7
07-26-2018, 11:35 AM
Even with the Braves taking priority for you, his impact on State would likely be far greater than the relatively small chance of him eventually having a big impact on the Braves MLB team.

But for me, all State sports come before anything else, at least those available to watch/follow.

The impact on each team is true. Good point. I'm just not happy with AA right now... losing 1st pick ever as brave, not upgrading flaherty, still hasn't gotten us a LH specialist (maybe little impatient here), and I think it's a dumb idea to not take a rental.

KB21
07-26-2018, 11:35 AM
I'm going to Trustmark tonight for the Mississippi State night. I'm going to Sun Trust on the 17th to the Mississippi State night there.

Tbonewannabe
07-26-2018, 11:48 AM
I'm going to Trustmark tonight for the Mississippi State night. I'm going to Sun Trust on the 17th to the Mississippi State night there.

What is Trustmark doing for their State night? I am kind of pumped about getting a maroon Braves hat with the M State logo on the side. Only way it could be better is if it had the baseball MS logo.

msstate7
07-26-2018, 11:55 AM
I'm going to Trustmark tonight for the Mississippi State night. I'm going to Sun Trust on the 17th to the Mississippi State night there.

I like going to trustmark too. AA is really devoid of talent outside of Wilson and Wright though. Oh, at least Cumberland got promoted

msstate7
07-26-2018, 12:00 PM
So how are our players doing in summer ball?

msbulldog
07-26-2018, 12:06 PM
Are you on a work computer? Something is blocking your access to twitter.

Happens at my job along with a bunch of other stuff, thank goodness for hot spot.

Bulldog1
07-26-2018, 12:31 PM
So how are our players doing in summer ball?

MSU Baseball Summer League Stats as of July 23 (https://247sports.com/college/mississippi-state/Article/Mississippi-State-University-Baseball-Summer-League-Stats-July-23-2018-120006352/)

msstate7
07-26-2018, 12:50 PM
MSU Baseball Summer League Stats as of July 23 (https://247sports.com/college/mississippi-state/Article/Mississippi-State-University-Baseball-Summer-League-Stats-July-23-2018-120006352/)

Thanks.

That's the same stat line breaux had a month ago. Is he injured again?

KOdawg1
07-26-2018, 01:16 PM
MSU Baseball Summer League Stats as of July 23 (https://247sports.com/college/mississippi-state/Article/Mississippi-State-University-Baseball-Summer-League-Stats-July-23-2018-120006352/)

Gilbert - .097 avg in 31 ABs.. Yikes

Tbonewannabe
07-26-2018, 01:24 PM
Gilbert - .097 avg in 31 ABs.. Yikes

One of the new catchers might start next year.

pilldawg
07-26-2018, 02:44 PM
Great recruiting approach. Chances are if he makes it here and is around his teammates, college freedom, college girls, etc he'll stay. College can be among the greatest years of one's life. Yeah, money, I know... Still seems like it would be pretty easy to keep him if he just made here.

Get a few cleat chasers after him and I am sure he would soon realize the college exprience is alright, alright!

Todd4State
07-26-2018, 02:56 PM
Thanks.

That's the same stat line breaux had a month ago. Is he injured again?

I think he left his summer team.

Todd4State
07-26-2018, 02:57 PM
One of the new catchers might start next year.

I think it's probably going to be Hayden Jones unless Cheesebrough gets the older guys up to speed.

msstate7
07-26-2018, 02:58 PM
I think he left his summer team.

Any idea as to why?

MarketingBully
07-26-2018, 02:59 PM
I think it's probably going to be Hayden Jones unless Cheesebrough gets the older guys up to speed.

I hope it is Hayden Jones. His ceiling is the highest of any catcher we have at State.

Todd4State
07-26-2018, 05:08 PM
Any idea as to why?

No idea.

Todd4State
07-26-2018, 05:10 PM
I hope it is Hayden Jones. His ceiling is the highest of any catcher we have at State.

I agree. He reminds me a little bit of Hunter Stovall. Luke Hancock may be an option at catcher as well.

msstate7
07-26-2018, 05:12 PM
No idea.

I can?t think of any good reason why he would leave. Hopefully his arm is ok

maroonmania
07-26-2018, 07:09 PM
I'll be happy if carter makes it state. I'll be mad at AA at the same time. Basketball, I like state more than anyone. Football, I like state more than anyone. Baseball, state is 2nd to the braves. College baseball just isn't that great of a sport with the best players going milb, scholarship limitations, umpiring is awful, and college baseball just isn't a national sport like basketball and football

I love college football BUT college baseball is representative of what all college sports SHOULD be like. That is, played almost exclusively by guys that actually want to be college students and weren't bought by the fanbases to get them to their school. I personally wish all college sports were more like college baseball in the sense that guys that have no business being a college student and just have their hand out to the highest bidder actually had another alternative to get to the pros.

Commercecomet24
07-26-2018, 07:16 PM
I love college football BUT college baseball is representative of what all college sports SHOULD be like. That is, played almost exclusively by guys that actually want to be college students and weren't bought by the fanbases to get them to their school. I personally wish all college sports were more like college baseball in the sense that guys that have no business being a college student and just have their hand out to the highest bidder actually had another alternative to get to the pros.

Very well said! My sentiments exactly!

bobcat91
07-26-2018, 08:13 PM
I love college baseball, but I'm spoiled. I watched Raffy, Will, Jeff, Thiggy, Gator, Pete, Burke, Cohen, etc while I was a student. I saw a mlb allstar game everytime they took the field. The Braves. Lol

The Federalist Engineer
07-27-2018, 09:14 AM
I love college football BUT college baseball is representative of what all college sports SHOULD be like. That is, played almost exclusively by guys that actually want to be college students and weren't bought by the fanbases to get them to their school. I personally wish all college sports were more like college baseball in the sense that guys that have no business being a college student and just have their hand out to the highest bidder actually had another alternative to get to the pros.

Yep, College Baseball is the only student athlete sport. Except at Vanderbilt, were the kids have no majors and watch TV for college credit

msstate7
07-27-2018, 09:28 AM
I love college football BUT college baseball is representative of what all college sports SHOULD be like. That is, played almost exclusively by guys that actually want to be college students and weren't bought by the fanbases to get them to their school. I personally wish all college sports were more like college baseball in the sense that guys that have no business being a college student and just have their hand out to the highest bidder actually had another alternative to get to the pros.

Do you think college baseball players would turn down full scholarships and cash to sign if offered? College baseball players aren't superior human beings to football and basketball just bc they play a sport that isn't as popular

maroonmania
07-27-2018, 06:50 PM
Do you think college baseball players would turn down full scholarships and cash to sign if offered? College baseball players aren't superior human beings to football and basketball just bc they play a sport that isn't as popular

What does any of that have to do with the price of eggs? Said nothing about them being superior human beings or not accepting money if more was offered. I'm speaking of how the sport of college baseball currently works. The good baseball players that come to college usually play for less than a full ride without being given much of anything on the side. Those that don't want to do that go play in the minors if they can get someone to sign them so they can get paid something and don't have to go to class for a college education. That is how college sports SHOULD work other than the fact that there ought to be way more baseball players that do get full scholarships. Also, it would be interesting to see how popular college football and college basketball would remain if the NFL and NBA provided a true minor league system that took away the very best HS talent from each of those sports.

Homedawg
07-27-2018, 07:06 PM
I agree. He reminds me a little bit of Hunter Stovall. Luke Hancock may be an option at catcher as well.

Hancock isn't ready to be a starter In this league.

Todd4State
07-27-2018, 07:34 PM
Hancock isn't ready to be a starter In this league.

Neither is Skelton or Gilbert.

Homedawg
07-27-2018, 09:10 PM
Neither is Skelton or Gilbert.

Hancock is behind Skelton at the same stage in his career. Will he be better? Yeah maybe.