Good MLB pitching coach fired today and is available.....

[Pit Bull]

...Detroit Tigers's Chris Bosio was fired for some racially insensitive remark he made toward a team employee. Didn't say what it was, but appears it was not the "N" word or any other ethnic slur that would be considered horrendous. He was previously the Chicago Cubs pitching coach for about 6 years before his gig with Detroit. If another MLB team won't hire him, it might be worth interviewing him and vetting what he said in more detail. Sometimes teams overreact to in-the-heat-of-the-moment comments and with all the political correctness we have to deal with nowadays. If it was bad, then don't do it, but it might be something relatively minor. Never know.....unless you check it out.

[LilSebastian]

...Detroit Tigers's Chris Bosio was fired for some racially insensitive remark he made toward a team employee. Didn't say what it was, but appears it was not the "N" word or any other ethnic slur that would be considered horrendous. He was previously the Chicago Cubs pitching coach for about 6 years before his gig with Detroit. If another MLB team won't hire him, it might be worth interviewing him and vetting what he said in more detail. Sometimes teams overreact to in-the-heat-of-the-moment comments and with all the political correctness we have to deal with nowadays. If it was bad, then don't do it, but it might be something relatively minor. Never know.....unless you check it out.

Baseball is baseball, pitching is pitching, but handling amateurs and pros is different. I also cannot figure out why we?d invite that kind of scrutiny. We lost our last HC over a lack of impulse control, let?s make add another head case!

[Todd4State]

Hell no. If you want to see media backlash assuming he did indeed use the N word...

On top of that Bosio never played college baseball and has never been involved in the college game ever. And has never recruited before in his life.


Just no.

[Dawg61]

Lol yea I'm sure the pitching coach hire at MSU will be the top story on ESPN 6 SportsCenter. They'll put it ahead of the Lebron sweepstakes and the World Cup. Pit Bull nobody will satisfy some of these baseball gurus resume check box unless they are the one's presenting the idea or if Cohen just hires a random Bert Lemons from Indiana and then wahla he's suddenly a perfect candidate.

[dawgs]

I'd be really disappointed i cohen and really question lemonis's long term prospects if he hired a guy just fired for racially insentive remarks even if it was not the N-word.

[Todd4State]

Lol yea I'm sure the pitching coach hire at MSU will be the top story on ESPN 6 SportsCenter. They'll put it ahead of the Lebron sweepstakes and the World Cup. Pit Bull nobody will satisfy some of these baseball gurus resume check box unless they are the one's presenting the idea or if Cohen just hires a random Bert Lemons from Indiana and then wahla he's suddenly a perfect candidate.


It wouldn't be the top story. But you better believe it would be mentioned. It's as much as MLB story as it is as college baseball story.

[Dawg61]

It wouldn't be the top story. But you better believe it would be mentioned. It's as much as MLB story as it is as college baseball story.

It wouldn't get 1 second of airtime on any network. Not even the SEC Network. Not even WCBI local channel 8 news would run that story. Nobody gives a flying **** about a fired MLB pitching coach and they give even less of a **** about a college baseball pitching coach getting hired. Only way that maybe possibly sees any air time on tv anywhere is if we hire Roger Clemens and that's still doubtful to be aired on even the Longhorn Network. It'd make it to an article online maybe.

[Todd4State]

It wouldn't get 1 second of airtime on any network. Not even the SEC Network. Not even WCBI local channel 8 news would run that story. Nobody gives a flying **** about a fired MLB pitching coach and they give even less of a **** about a college baseball pitching coach getting hired. Only way that maybe possibly sees any air time on tv anywhere is if we hire Roger Clemens and that's still doubtful to be aired on even the Longhorn Network. It'd make it to an article online maybe.

Just like no one at ESPN mentions Luke Heimlich at Oregon State and his "controversial past"? ** The one second it would be mentioned is too much and completely unnecessary. And the fact that he essentially replaced the interim coach who led us to the CWS as the pitching coach wouldn't help matters either.


I'm not exactly sure why I'm bothering though. You think that we can plug someone in from MLB who hasn't been involved in the college game for 40 years and make it work...or even better it was your idea to hire Will Clark as our coach- a guy that hasn't coached beyond Giants spring training basically to sign autographs for Giants fans. And you're just going to incoherently argue just to argue to see how much gas you can put on your dumpster fire of baseball ideas. With maybe a couple of gifs thrown in.


Oh- and then there's the fact that there is no way in hell Bosio would take it anyway. Even after this incident I'm sure he can make a decent living giving pitching lessons and he'll probably try to work his way back into the pro game in a couple of years.

[dawgs]

I doubt it'd be a big story, but I just don't want a guy fresh off getting fired for racially insensitive remarks, and making that hire would have me questioning the judgement of everyone from Lemonis all the way up the ladder to keenum.

[State82]

Who knows what he said or why. Bottom line is we have to get someone that knows the college game inside and out and can get top prospects to campus for at least two or three years. That's it. And I doubt this guy is it, baggage or not.

[msstate7]

As uninterested as this board is in Bosio, he would be that uninterested in our pitching job

[Dawg61]

Oregon State is playing on TV already Einstein and Heimlich is pitching. That's why they talked about it. They aren't showing us on TV again till next year. Your tiny non-existent window of TV airtime they might possibly bring up a former MLB's reason for firing will be 9 months old by the time our baseball team is on tv again and our new pitching coach trots out to change pitchers. There's your 5 second airtime possibility. 9 months from now.

[LC Dawg]

Seems like a better fit for Ole Miss iyam.

[ChillOutDog]

I doubt it'd be a big story, but I just don't want a guy fresh off getting fired for racially insensitive remarks, and making that hire would have me questioning the judgement of everyone from Lemonis all the way up the ladder to keenum.

In the interview with USA Today, Bosio explained his side of the story. While in his cubicle inside the Tigers coaches office, the former major league pitcher says he used the word "monkey" to describe Detroit pitcher Daniel Stumpf, who is white. However, Bosio said a clubhouse attendant who is African-American overheard what he said and thought Bosio was talking about him.

"Someone in our coaches' room asked me [Monday afternoon] about Stumpf,'' Bosio told USA Today. "And I said, "Oh, you mean 'Spider Monkey.' That's his nickname. He's a skinny little white kid who makes all of these funny faces when he works out.

"The kid [clubhouse attendant] thought we were talking about him. He got all upset. He assumed we were talking about him. I said, 'No, no, no. We're talking about Stumpf.'

"And that was it. I swear on my mom and dad's graves, there was nothing else to it.''

When asked what happened by several members of the Tigers front office and coaching staff, Bosio admitted he used the word "monkey" but reiterated it was in reference to Stumpf and "the face he makes when he lifts weights. That's it.''

"Al said, we got all of our information, and we're firing you because of your insensitive comments,'' Bosio told USA Today. "I said, 'Comments? There was one comment. And it wasn't even directed at the kid.'"

Bosio told USA Today that he plans to hire an attorney and explore potential legal action.

[Bdawg]

In the interview with USA Today, Bosio explained his side of the story. While in his cubicle inside the Tigers coaches office, the former major league pitcher says he used the word "monkey" to describe Detroit pitcher Daniel Stumpf, who is white. However, Bosio said a clubhouse attendant who is African-American overheard what he said and thought Bosio was talking about him.

"Someone in our coaches' room asked me [Monday afternoon] about Stumpf,'' Bosio told USA Today. "And I said, "Oh, you mean 'Spider Monkey.' That's his nickname. He's a skinny little white kid who makes all of these funny faces when he works out.

"The kid [clubhouse attendant] thought we were talking about him. He got all upset. He assumed we were talking about him. I said, 'No, no, no. We're talking about Stumpf.'

"And that was it. I swear on my mom and dad's graves, there was nothing else to it.''

When asked what happened by several members of the Tigers front office and coaching staff, Bosio admitted he used the word "monkey" but reiterated it was in reference to Stumpf and "the face he makes when he lifts weights. That's it.''

"Al said, we got all of our information, and we're firing you because of your insensitive comments,'' Bosio told USA Today. "I said, 'Comments? There was one comment. And it wasn't even directed at the kid.'"

Bosio told USA Today that he plans to hire an attorney and explore potential legal action.
I swear if that's the truth, I can't stand this world we live in anymore. Everybody is just a bunch of thin skinned pansy ass babies always looking for some way to be offended.

[ChillOutDog]

I swear if that's the truth, I can't stand this world we live in anymore. Everybody is just a bunch of thin skinned pansy ass babies always looking for some way to be offended.

I hope the INDIANS hire him, they bring back Chief Wahoo’s face everywhere, and they beat the Tigers’ ass for the next 20 years. Fire the janitor and the GM.

[DogsofAnarchy]

...Detroit Tigers's Chris Bosio was fired for some racially insensitive remark he made toward a team employee. Didn't say what it was, but appears it was not the "N" word or any other ethnic slur that would be considered horrendous. He was previously the Chicago Cubs pitching coach for about 6 years before his gig with Detroit. If another MLB team won't hire him, it might be worth interviewing him and vetting what he said in more detail. Sometimes teams overreact to in-the-heat-of-the-moment comments and with all the political correctness we have to deal with nowadays. If it was bad, then don't do it, but it might be something relatively minor. Never know.....unless you check it out.

Not that I say hire the guy, because I don’t know a thing about him. But I’m gonna go with the other radicals on the board on this one....let’s gather up some rocks and go stone the guy for something he said. That sounds reasonable. Let’s just STONE him....Good Lord.

[Dawg61]

I swear if that's the truth, I can't stand this world we live in anymore. Everybody is just a bunch of thin skinned pansy ass babies always looking for some way to be offended.

Relax. If what he said is true he's gonna be able to sue the Tigers for 7 figures and win. That's an open and shut winnable case.

[yjnkdawg]

Just to sum this thread up. Bosio is not going to be our pitching coach. Lemonis is responsible for wins and getting us to post season play. So, why don't we let him choose who he thinks can help him accomplish that and get us back to Omaha. How is Bosio's college recruiting skills, because that is a major factor, in addition to being a top college baseball pitching coach, concerning what Cohen and Lemonis are looking for. I can't see how Bosio would fit that criteria.

[dawgs]

In the interview with USA Today, Bosio explained his side of the story. While in his cubicle inside the Tigers coaches office, the former major league pitcher says he used the word "monkey" to describe Detroit pitcher Daniel Stumpf, who is white. However, Bosio said a clubhouse attendant who is African-American overheard what he said and thought Bosio was talking about him.

"Someone in our coaches' room asked me [Monday afternoon] about Stumpf,'' Bosio told USA Today. "And I said, "Oh, you mean 'Spider Monkey.' That's his nickname. He's a skinny little white kid who makes all of these funny faces when he works out.

"The kid [clubhouse attendant] thought we were talking about him. He got all upset. He assumed we were talking about him. I said, 'No, no, no. We're talking about Stumpf.'

"And that was it. I swear on my mom and dad's graves, there was nothing else to it.''

When asked what happened by several members of the Tigers front office and coaching staff, Bosio admitted he used the word "monkey" but reiterated it was in reference to Stumpf and "the face he makes when he lifts weights. That's it.''

"Al said, we got all of our information, and we're firing you because of your insensitive comments,'' Bosio told USA Today. "I said, 'Comments? There was one comment. And it wasn't even directed at the kid.'"

Bosio told USA Today that he plans to hire an attorney and explore potential legal action.

There is literally no way that this is the whole story that got him fired.

[dawgs]

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2018/06/28/detroit-tigers-daniel-stumpf-has-no-knowledge-nickname-spider-monkey/744602002/

"Spider Monkey is not a nickname I have been called or I'm familiar with," Stumpf told the Free Press.

[ChillOutDog]

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2018/06/28/detroit-tigers-daniel-stumpf-has-no-knowledge-nickname-spider-monkey/744602002/

"Spider Monkey is not a nickname I have been called or I'm familiar with," Stumpf told the Free Press.

“Foam Bat is not a nickname I have been called or I’m familiar with,” Alexander told the Reflector.

[yjnkdawg]

“Foam Bat is not a nickname I have been called or I’m familiar with,” Alexander told the Reflector.



It's good that Luke didn't read some of the previous dumb and disrespectful posts on ED.

[lefty96]

There is literally no way that this is the whole story that got him fired.

Exactly.

[Bdawg]

Relax. If what he said is true he's gonna be able to sue the Tigers for 7 figures and win. That's an open and shut winnable case.

It should never come to that. People are just a bunch of babies. Crap like this is what backs up the court system when all they had to do was sit the two guys down and let them work it out like men. Nobody wants to do that these days. They just fire the guy because somebody just thinks something racial was said.

[Goldendawg]

It's good that Luke didn't read some of the previous dumb and disrespectful posts on ED.

Don't think that our players and their parents don't know about this type posts, they know very well.

[LilSebastian]

I swear if that's the truth, I can't stand this world we live in anymore. Everybody is just a bunch of thin skinned pansy ass babies always looking for some way to be offended.

Stumpf came out and said that he?s never been called Spider Monkey, much less by anybody in the organization. In other words, the pitching coach is full of it. He used a slur. Did you really think the Cubs would do that without investigating the claim? Rich folks are way harder to fire because they can lawyer up.

[Mutt the Hoople]

...Detroit Tigers's Chris Bosio was fired for some racially insensitive remark he made toward a team employee. Didn't say what it was, but appears it was not the "N" word or any other ethnic slur that would be considered horrendous. He was previously the Chicago Cubs pitching coach for about 6 years before his gig with Detroit. If another MLB team won't hire him, it might be worth interviewing him and vetting what he said in more detail. Sometimes teams overreact to in-the-heat-of-the-moment comments and with all the political correctness we have to deal with nowadays. If it was bad, then don't do it, but it might be something relatively minor. Never know.....unless you check it out.
Isn't Leo Mazzone available?

[Goldendawg]

Stumpf came out and said that he?s never been called Spider Monkey, much less by anybody in the organization. In other words, the pitching coach is full of it. He used a slur. Did you really think the Cubs would do that without investigating the claim? Rich folks are way harder to fire because they can lawyer up.

This was a lead story on MSN.com yesterday. Don't think that this won't be in the news wherever he gets his next job.

[shoeless joe]

Stumpf came out and said that he?s never been called Spider Monkey, much less by anybody in the organization. In other words, the pitching coach is full of it. He used a slur. Did you really think the Cubs would do that without investigating the claim? Rich folks are way harder to fire because they can lawyer up.

Eh...that doesn't really dismantle his story. Not to defend him because I don't know what was said or meant by it BUT in a team setting it wouldn't be uncommon for coaches to refer to a player by a nickname and it not be used to their face. And he could have been telling someone how he looked like a "spider monkey" and then just described what happened by sayin it was like a nickname.

I do not find it hard to believe that an MLB coach would make insensitive comments...I just think it adds to the notion of folks being overly sensitive and wanting to be offended.

Now if he was being obviously racist and mean spirited in that...he got what he deserved. But how sensitive do you hafta be not to get fired? Does insensitive equal racist? I've been around a ton of insensitive jokes that were funny as hell that had nothing to do with race?? So I guess I just don't understand the description of the comments that were a firable offense.

[dawgs]

Eh...that doesn't really dismantle his story. Not to defend him because I don't know what was said or meant by it BUT in a team setting it wouldn't be uncommon for coaches to refer to a player by a nickname and it not be used to their face. And he could have been telling someone how he looked like a "spider monkey" and then just described what happened by sayin it was like a nickname.

I do not find it hard to believe that an MLB coach would make insensitive comments...I just think it adds to the notion of folks being overly sensitive and wanting to be offended.

Now if he was being obviously racist and mean spirited in that...he got what he deserved. But how sensitive do you hafta be not to get fired? Does insensitive equal racist? I've been around a ton of insensitive jokes that were funny as hell that had nothing to do with race?? So I guess I just don't understand the description of the comments that were a firable offense.

https://deadspin.com/report-fired-tigers-pitching-coach-called-black-clubho-1827241045

Bosio called the attendant, who is African-American, a “monkey,” according to four team sources. The remark was directed toward the young man, who was collecting towels from the coaches’ room at the time, during a post-game gripe session in which Bosio was lamenting about a pitcher.

During this exchange, Bosio made a derogatory comment about one of the Tigers pitchers and then gestured toward the attendant before adding, “like this monkey here,” the sources said. The attendant pushed back at Bosio for the comment, and an additional team employee witnessed the exchange. Bosio was provided an opportunity to apologize to the attendant after his outburst but declined to do so, according to multiple sources.

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Like I said, there was literally no way a team fired a him for the story he told, and his story definitely sounded like the story of a guy trying to save his reputation and career.

[shoeless joe]

https://deadspin.com/report-fired-tigers-pitching-coach-called-black-clubho-1827241045

Bosio called the attendant, who is African-American, a “monkey,” according to four team sources. The remark was directed toward the young man, who was collecting towels from the coaches’ room at the time, during a post-game gripe session in which Bosio was lamenting about a pitcher.

During this exchange, Bosio made a derogatory comment about one of the Tigers pitchers and then gestured toward the attendant before adding, “like this monkey here,” the sources said. The attendant pushed back at Bosio for the comment, and an additional team employee witnessed the exchange. Bosio was provided an opportunity to apologize to the attendant after his outburst but declined to do so, according to multiple sources.

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Like I said, there was literally no way a team fired a him for the story he told, and his story definitely sounded like the story of a guy trying to save his reputation and career.

If that story is the truth then it's much more egregious obviously.

[I seen it dawg]

It's still amazing to me how words just hurt so deeply. It's just words. It's not a knife or a bullet or a stick. Someone call you or me a name so what. I'm just of the opinion that if being called a name is that bad for you then it's your problem and maybe you need to toughen up a little and learn to ignore stupid shit.

ETA to make it thread relevant...if Bosio did make the comment toward the clubhouse guy who is just there picking up towels or whatever then he should be fired for being a ****ing idiot bc he's too stupid to work in MLB. Clubhouse guy doesn't have shit to do with the baseball game. Coach your pitchers better asshat.

[dawgs]

It's still amazing to me how words just hurt so deeply. It's just words. It's not a knife or a bullet or a stick. Someone call you or me a name so what. I'm just of the opinion that if being called a name is that bad for you then it's your problem and maybe you need to toughen up a little and learn to ignore stupid shit.

ETA to make it thread relevant...if Bosio did make the comment toward the clubhouse guy who is just there picking up towels or whatever then he should be fired for being a ****ing idiot bc he's too stupid to work in MLB. Clubhouse guy doesn't have shit to do with the baseball game. Coach your pitchers better asshat.

He got fired for being an asshole. Saying dumb racist shit is just a specific form of asshole.

[Dawg61]

It's still amazing to me how words just hurt so deeply. It's just words. It's not a knife or a bullet or a stick. Someone call you or me a name so what. I'm just of the opinion that if being called a name is that bad for you then it's your problem and maybe you need to toughen up a little and learn to ignore stupid shit.

ETA to make it thread relevant...if Bosio did make the comment toward the clubhouse guy who is just there picking up towels or whatever then he should be fired for being a ****ing idiot bc he's too stupid to work in MLB. Clubhouse guy doesn't have shit to do with the baseball game. Coach your pitchers better asshat.

Racial slurs don't offend white people the same way they do minorities. That's just the truth of it and it's probably scientifically provable. You can't really say anything racist towards a white person. Honkey, redneck, cracker?? White people just laugh at them. Racial slurs have been used for thousands of years as a means to dehumanize or remind someone they are considered the lesser race in society. So you and I and all other white people don't really understand why it's such a big deal because we can't understand it. Words are powerful. Especially when using one immediately reminds someone of thousands of years of slavery, genocide etc...

[bulldawg28]

...Detroit Tigers's Chris Bosio was fired for some racially insensitive remark he made toward a team employee. Didn't say what it was, but appears it was not the "N" word or any other ethnic slur that would be considered horrendous. He was previously the Chicago Cubs pitching coach for about 6 years before his gig with Detroit. If another MLB team won't hire him, it might be worth interviewing him and vetting what he said in more detail. Sometimes teams overreact to in-the-heat-of-the-moment comments and with all the political correctness we have to deal with nowadays. If it was bad, then don't do it, but it might be something relatively minor. Never know.....unless you check it out.

Bro, I'm starting to wonder if you and Random are brothers. You come up with some crazy logic.

[bulldawg28]

Racial slurs don't offend white people the same way they do minorities. That's just the truth of it and it's probably scientifically provable. You can't really say anything racist towards a white person. Honkey, redneck, cracker?? White people just laugh at them. Racial slurs have been used for thousands of years as a means to dehumanize or remind someone they are considered the lesser race in society. So you and I and all other white people don't really understand why it's such a big deal because we can't understand it. Words are powerful. Especially when using one immediately reminds someone of thousands of years of slavery, genocide etc...

+1000% correct. The way it would hurt or offend a white person would be that a relatively close white female was/is called n-word lover.

[preachermatt83]

“America, Home of the offended”

[I seen it dawg]

Racial slurs don't offend white people the same way they do minorities. That's just the truth of it and it's probably scientifically provable. You can't really say anything racist towards a white person. Honkey, redneck, cracker?? White people just laugh at them. Racial slurs have been used for thousands of years as a means to dehumanize or remind someone they are considered the lesser race in society. So you and I and all other white people don't really understand why it's such a big deal because we can't understand it. Words are powerful. Especially when using one immediately reminds someone of thousands of years of slavery, genocide etc...

I just disagree.