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Hambone
06-27-2018, 09:20 PM
I thought I read somewhere JT Ginn has until July 6th to sign and I came up with an interesting question. IF you could only have commit or signee that week, do you choose (A) Ginn or (B) Emery?

I know that it is possible we get both and I hope like hell we do, but just for fun, who would YOU choose IF you could only chose one?

MarketingBully
06-27-2018, 09:21 PM
JT Ginn.

Mjoelner34
06-27-2018, 09:22 PM
Ginn

Commercecomet24
06-27-2018, 09:25 PM
JT no doubt.

jumbo
06-27-2018, 09:28 PM
Ginn absolutely.

dickiedawg
06-27-2018, 09:29 PM
Ginn, no question.

Westdawg
06-27-2018, 09:29 PM
JT. he is what you call a once a decade (or longer) program-changer type of player.

msstate7
06-27-2018, 09:35 PM
Emery

I love baseball, but football is king in college. This football class is picking up steam... every 4-star we pick up from here out helps us maintain our program, and even take it up a notch.

Homedawg
06-27-2018, 09:41 PM
We have Ginn. We just aren’t going to see him play for us..... so there’s that. But if this is choice for which guy to show up on campus I’d go Ginn. Dual guy that can help instantly.

HoopsDawg
06-27-2018, 09:49 PM
JT no doubt.

Can Ginn play SS or do you see him as a 3B?

We have an interesting situation where Foscue, Westburg, and Gunner Halter are all good 3B prospects but not really SS. I know Ginn could DH, but I kind of see Tanner Allen as the DH next year.

Commercecomet24
06-27-2018, 09:53 PM
Can Ginn play SS or do you see him as a 3B?

We have an interesting situation where Foscue, Westburg, and Gunner Halter are all good 3B prospects but not really SS. I know Ginn could DH, but I kind of see Tanner Allen as the DH next year.

He's an excellent ss. Great feet and great hands but I know the plan if he comes to school is to play 3B when he's not pitching to protect his arm.

Todd4State
06-27-2018, 09:55 PM
Can Ginn play SS or do you see him as a 3B?

We have an interesting situation where Foscue, Westburg, and Gunner Halter are all good 3B prospects but not really SS. I know Ginn could DH, but I kind of see Tanner Allen as the DH next year.

Ginn to answer the OP and I think we use him either at 1B/3B/DH and then either as a weekend starter or closer and then make him the ace the next year.

HoopsDawg
06-27-2018, 10:03 PM
He's an excellent ss. Great feet and great hands but I know the plan if he comes to school is to play 3B when he's not pitching to protect his arm.

Thanks, I definitely want his bat in the lineup.

If he comes to school, it will be interesting to see how Lemo get's Ginn, Westburg, Halter, and Foscue all in the lineup.

preachermatt83
06-27-2018, 10:19 PM
Thanks, I definitely want his bat in the lineup.

If he comes to school, it will be interesting to see how Lemo get's Ginn, Westburg, Halter, and Foscue all in the lineup.

I’d be surprised if westburg is not our SS next year.

HoopsDawg
06-27-2018, 10:21 PM
I’d be surprised if westburg is not our SS next year.

No one really projects him there. I heard Cohen mention him as a 3B/1B. Even said he could see him as a corner OF, but never mentioned SS.

Pollodawg
06-27-2018, 10:26 PM
Emery

I love baseball, but football is king in college. This football class is picking up steam... every 4-star we pick up from here out helps us maintain our program, and even take it up a notch.
This. Baseball will never be anything but a tertiary sport. Sorry, guys.

Commercecomet24
06-27-2018, 10:26 PM
Thanks, I definitely want his bat in the lineup.

If he comes to school, it will be interesting to see how Lemo get's Ginn, Westburg, Halter, and Foscue all in the lineup.

You're welcome. He's really smooth defensively.

msstate7
06-27-2018, 10:30 PM
No one really projects him there. I heard Cohen mention him as a 3B/1B. Even said he could see him as a corner OF, but never mentioned SS.

Yep. Cohen said he was a 1st round 3b/1b

Homedawg
06-27-2018, 10:31 PM
Can Ginn play SS or do you see him as a 3B?

We have an interesting situation where Foscue, Westburg, and Gunner Halter are all good 3B prospects but not really SS. I know Ginn could DH, but I kind of see Tanner Allen as the DH next year.

He’s not a college ss. He’s a corner guy. Just like foscue,and Westburg.

Homedawg
06-27-2018, 10:32 PM
I?d be surprised if westburg is not our SS next year.

Alexander will be our as next year. Only way that doesn?t happen is if the juco guy can do it. Westburg won?t be our ss.

HoopsDawg
06-27-2018, 10:32 PM
You're welcome. He's really smooth defensively.

I'll take a stab at a lineup:

C: Childers/Jones
1B: Westburg
2B: Rowdey
SS: LA
3B: Ginn
LF: Halter
CF: Mangum
RF: MacNamee
DH: Allen

In that scenario, Foscue, Anderson, and Hatcher would be the odd men out.

msstate7
06-27-2018, 10:36 PM
I'll take a stab at a lineup:

C: Childers/Jones
1B: Westburg
2B: Rowdey
SS: LA
3B: Ginn
LF: Halter
CF: Mangum
RF: MacNamee
DH: Allen

In that scenario, Foscue, Anderson, and Hatcher would be the odd men out.

I don't who will be where, but I'll be surprised if Hatcher and foscue don't get regular ABs. I expect hatcher to rebound in a big way

Commercecomet24
06-27-2018, 10:36 PM
I'll take a stab at a lineup:

C: Childers/Jones
1B: Westburg
2B: Rowdey
SS: LA
3B: Ginn
LF: Halter
CF: Mangum
RF: MacNamee
DH: Allen

In that scenario, Foscue, Anderson, and Hatcher would be the odd men out.

Pretty good lineup!

HoopsDawg
06-27-2018, 10:40 PM
I don't who will be where, but I'll be surprised if Hatcher and foscue don't get regular ABs. I expect hatcher to rebound in a big way

Well, it's still a long shot on Ginn so you can plug Foscue in at 3B if Ginn doesn't make it to school. I still like Hatcher too. He needs to get a bunch of live AB's this summer and he needs to add some good weight and strength. Also, if Gunner could win the SS position, it would open up some things in LF and DH.

Homedawg
06-27-2018, 10:41 PM
I have a hard time seeing foscue getting pushed out at 3rd. It’s possible but he’s a gifted guy w experience. He’s only getting better. But if there’s someone better, let’s go w it!

Homedawg
06-27-2018, 10:43 PM
I hope rowdy can play second, otherwise I’m worried there. Unless the juco guy can go there.

HoopsDawg
06-27-2018, 10:45 PM
I hope rowdy can play second, otherwise I’m worried there. Unless the juco guy can go there.

2nd base is Rowdy's natural position. I just don't see Gunner as a 2nd basemen.

Todd4State
06-28-2018, 02:00 AM
I'll take a stab at a lineup:

C: Childers/Jones
1B: Westburg
2B: Rowdey
SS: LA
3B: Ginn
LF: Halter
CF: Mangum
RF: MacNamee
DH: Allen

In that scenario, Foscue, Anderson, and Hatcher would be the odd men out.

Westburg at first is an interesting idea. We'll know a lot more about how things look July 6.

C- I think Jones has a really good chance to start. It depends on how much Skelton and Gilbert improve. I think Childers is more of a 1B/DH.PH type of guy.

1B- I could see Ginn starting here possibly. Hatcher and Allen are possibilities as well. Maybe even someone like MacNamee. I like the idea of Westburg here though.

2B- Depends on what Stovall does- I'm assuming he will sign for now. Rowdey or LA will probably end up here if that happens.


3B- Ginn possibly if he comes to school, possibly Halter, and of course there is Foscue and Westburg.


SS- I think it's LA although Halter is certainly a possibility and I think Westburg probably will have to end up waiting until he is a junior to take over one way or the other.


LF- I'd like to see it be Jordan Anderson but it will probably be Rowdey or Tanner Allen (I think both start somewhere). Westburg could be an option here if he can learn to play the OF.


CF- Jake Mangum with Anderson probably backing him up.


RF- Probably MacNamee. If we move him to first base which I don't think is very likely we could see Allen here. Bryce Bush could play here also if MacNamee plays first.


DH- Lots of options depending on how things shake out with Ginn, Rowdey, Allen, Westburg, Anderson, Foscue, and Bush probably being the most likely candidates to DH.

dawgs
06-28-2018, 02:07 AM
This. Baseball will never be anything but a tertiary sport. Sorry, guys.

Yeah, but we have a way more realistic shot of winning a natty in baseball than football. We'd need 3-4 classes in a row like this (along with winning this class as strong as we've started it) to even have a good shot to make the CFB playoff. In baseball, ginn could be the difference in winning a natty next year or not. Because of that, give me ginn.

CadaverDawg
06-28-2018, 08:14 AM
I'll take a stab at a lineup:

C: Childers/Jones
1B: Westburg
2B: Rowdey
SS: LA
3B: Ginn
LF: Halter
CF: Mangum
RF: MacNamee
DH: Allen

In that scenario, Foscue, Anderson, and Hatcher would be the odd men out.

I don't even know who Childers or Jones is, but they could be pet rocks and you'd have still won me over by not having Skelton in the lineup.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
06-28-2018, 08:37 AM
.... But if this is choice for which guy to show up on campus I?d go Ginn. Dual guy that can help instantly.

That is the choice, we didn't need your other input. Everyone is fully aware of the odds he comes here.

Bothrops
06-28-2018, 09:04 AM
Ginn and Emery are both game changers.

sleepy dawg
06-28-2018, 09:08 AM
Yeah, but we have a way more realistic shot of winning a natty in baseball than football. We'd need 3-4 classes in a row like this (along with winning this class as strong as we've started it) to even have a good shot to make the CFB playoff. In baseball, ginn could be the difference in winning a natty next year or not. Because of that, give me ginn.

Count me in on Emery as well. Our women's basketball team probably has an even better shot than baseball, but I wouldn't take a better wbb prospect over baseball, just like I wouldn't baseball over football. I love baseball and love our team, but I am borderline insane over our football team. There's little I wouldn't give up to see us continue to improve there.

dawgs
06-28-2018, 09:19 AM
Count me in on Emery as well. Our women's basketball team probably has an even better shot than baseball, but I wouldn't take a better wbb prospect over baseball, just like I wouldn't baseball over football. I love baseball and love our team, but I am borderline insane over our football team. There's little I wouldn't give up to see us continue to improve there.

Yeah, but we've rarely struggled to find an above average RB in football. I'm not saying I'd turn down the #2 RB in the country, but I have little doubt that without him we'd still be 90% (or more) as a good at RB with whoever we'd end up recruiting to fill that RB slot. Finding a guy 90% as good as ginn in baseball that ends up in college is pretty much impossible unless there's more guys throwing upper 90s/touching 100 than I'm aware of. And like I said, we could be 1 player away from winning the CWS next year. We aren't 1 player away from winning a title in football.

TXDawg
06-28-2018, 09:41 AM
He's an excellent ss. Great feet and great hands but I know the plan if he comes to school is to play 3B when he's not pitching to protect his arm.

Pardon my ignorance, but how does playing him at 3B protect his arm more than playing him at SS?

For the record, I know very little about JT or where he projects to play other than what I've read on here. Just asking the question out of curiosity because it seems like playing 3B would put more strain on the arm with the longer throw.

Commercecomet24
06-28-2018, 09:44 AM
I don't even know who Childers or Jones is, but they could be pet rocks and you'd have still won me over by not having Skelton in the lineup.

Good one, CD! Hayden Jones is a stud catcher from Indiana that's coming. The kid is going to be a good one. He's great defensively and can swing it with pop. He should overtake Skelton. Kid has a chance to be special.

Commercecomet24
06-28-2018, 09:47 AM
Pardon my ignorance, but how does playing him at 3B protect his arm more than playing him at SS?

For the record, I know very little about JT or where he projects to play other than what I've read on here. Just asking the question out of curiosity because it seems like playing 3B would put more strain on the arm with the longer throw.

3B don't handle near the chances that SS handles. On top of not handling the number of chances they're not involved in nearly as many cut off plays that require throwing and the throw from the hole at deep short is a further throw than most any a 3B has to make. So less throws equals less strain on the arm.

Johnson85
06-28-2018, 09:49 AM
Yeah, but we've rarely struggled to find an above average RB in football. I'm not saying I'd turn down the #2 RB in the country, but I have little doubt that without him we'd still be 90% (or more) as a good at RB with whoever we'd end up recruiting to fill that RB slot. Finding a guy 90% as good as ginn in baseball that ends up in college is pretty much impossible unless there's more guys throwing upper 90s/touching 100 than I'm aware of. And like I said, we could be 1 player away from winning the CWS next year. We aren't 1 player away from winning a title in football.

^^^THIS^^^ for me. Granted I just know Emery as a good prospect. If he is a Leonard Fournette or Chubb type player, then Emergy every day of the week. If he is just another really good running back, even if he's good enough to have more than a cup of coffee in the pros, I still think where we are with our baseball team and the potential hole that Ginn would fill for the next two years, and the likelihood that we will be able to replace Emery with another good rb before we really need him, give me Ginn.

TXDawg
06-28-2018, 10:03 AM
3B don't handle near the chances that SS handles. On top of not handling the number of chances they're not involved in nearly as many cut off plays that require throwing and the throw from the hole at deep short is a further throw than most any a 3B has to make. So less throws equals less strain on the arm.

That certainly makes sense.

Thanks!

Commercecomet24
06-28-2018, 10:12 AM
That certainly makes sense.

Thanks!

You're welcome! I played SS and 2B and as a middle infielder you're involved in so many more plays than the corner guys. Middle infielders have more wear and tear on the legs and body as compared to corner guys too, and that's a concern with JT as well, the overall wear and tear on his body.

msstate7
06-28-2018, 10:47 AM
^^^THIS^^^ for me. Granted I just know Emery as a good prospect. If he is a Leonard Fournette or Chubb type player, then Emergy every day of the week. If he is just another really good running back, even if he's good enough to have more than a cup of coffee in the pros, I still think where we are with our baseball team and the potential hole that Ginn would fill for the next two years, and the likelihood that we will be able to replace Emery with another good rb before we really need him, give me Ginn.

#42 player nationally
#2 RB nationally
#4 player in LA

Highest rated RB for us since Norwood, I think

Liverpooldawg
06-28-2018, 10:53 AM
Emery. Football>>>>>>>>>>>>>college baseball.