Bring the Schloss!!!

[MSU338]

What a season even though it was disappointing to end so close to a Natty! We over achieved this year and have almost everyone coming back! Not to mention a new studs coming!!! Let?s get the good news quick and announce Schloss as the new coach and look forward to kicking ass at football! Hail State and let?s keep this momentum going! Schloss, joe and Howland are gonna rock this year!!!

[ShotgunDawg]

Agree. John can't hire Henderson.

It would be a gut punch to the fan base.

He did a wonderful job under the circumstances but we need a different guy long term.

[Bulldog1]

Yep. I do NOT want Henderson hired. He did a good job this year, let's move on.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Agree. John can't hire Henderson.

It would be a gut punch to the fan base.

I get the impression that the non-message board portion of our fanbase (aka the overwhelming majority) is either ok with henderson being the guy or want him to be the guy.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Agree. John can't hire Henderson.

It would be a gut punch to the fan base.

He did a wonderful job under the circumstances but we need a different guy long term.

Im with you. Henderson aint the guy. Cohen will make a great hire even if he had to come back and do it himself. (not going to happen)

[KOdawg1]

Yep. I do NOT want Henderson hired. He did a good job this year, let's move on.

I think most rational fans feel this way too. There are a few that really don't know much about baseball that will want him hired, but anyone that knows anything about baseball can see that we need a long-term answer and that answer is not Hendo. I'll be forever grateful for him being a steady hand in what could've been a mess of a season though.

[MSU338]

Majority of the fan base doesn’t know anything about baseball but wins and losses! Gotta think with the head (no pun intended Cann) and not with the heart! Gary was a pitching coach for a reason!

[KOdawg1]

Now that the season is over, it'd be a good time for IYOK, Steakonastick, CommerceComet, and others who seem to be "in the know" to share what they're hearing about who we're hiring, if there's anything to share.

[ShotgunDawg]

I get the impression that the non-message board portion of our fanbase (aka the overwhelming majority) is either ok with henderson being the guy or want him to be the guy.

Maybe, but I'd argue that outside of Cohen himself, the message board portion of our fan base is among the most educated on the issue.

[The Federalist Engineer]

I am totally prepared to be monumentally disappointed with the hire situation. I think the big CWS run and all the returning starters are a plus. But we will know soon enough of the situation is not totally botched

[preachermatt83]

Agree. John can't hire Henderson.

It would be a gut punch to the fan base.

He did a wonderful job under the circumstances but we need a different guy long term.

+10000

[preachermatt83]

Maybe, but I'd argue that outside of Cohen himself, the message board portion of our fan base is among the most educated on the issue.

Yup.

[Mobile Bay]

We will be lucky if we get Lane ****ing Kiffin after the shameful display Cohen made on the radio last night.

[MSU338]

Schloss 10000 %. Corbin was a candidate and close till schloss showed back up. A lot of water was put on fire to put the flames out when we were still playing. Everything points to schloss! Even Cohen is pointing at him! His wife is packing bags and making peanut butter jelly and bana sandwiches for the trip over as we speak.

[Activated Alpha]

Not that I have reliable sources or any sources at all, but buddy has a lawyer friend that works for MsState and that Henderson will not be offered. Take it as you will. However, I desperately want Schloss as our next head coach.

[maroonmania]

I get the impression that the non-message board portion of our fanbase (aka the overwhelming majority) is either ok with henderson being the guy or want him to be the guy.

I would think the vast majority of the fanbase would be OK with Henderson but not all that excited.

[runwildjerious]

Hiring Henderson would be like when WVU hired Bill Stewart as their football coach when Rich Rod left. Won the bowl game and went 9-4 a few years, but was very underwhelming.

[runwildjerious]

And just to go in record I would keep going to Schloss. Give him an offer he cannot refuse. He is the one to get us over the hump.

[KOdawg1]

Schloss 10000 %. Corbin was a candidate and close till schloss showed back up. A lot of water was put on fire to put the flames out when we were still playing. Everything points to schloss! Even Cohen is pointing at him! His wife is packing bags and making peanut butter jelly and bana sandwiches for the trip over as we speak.

No offense, but you have 11 posts.

If you're right though, I'll gladly give you credit and apologize

[ShotgunDawg]

I'm curious how long Cohen waits to hire a new coach.

The MLB signing deadline in July 6th & you'd think you would want JT Ginn & a few others to know who the coach is first.

[ShotgunDawg]

man, this is gonna get ugly

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Mississippi State's Gary Henderson said he's optimistic his interim tag will be removed after this CWS: "We started something special. Fans are in. We’d like to stay and make a run of it. It’s a great place. Who wouldn’t want to be the baseball coach at Mississippi State? I do."

[Liverpooldawg]

Agree. John can't hire Henderson.

It would be a gut punch to the fan base.

He did a wonderful job under the circumstances but we need a different guy long term.

To the Internet fan base, most non-message board gurus I know think we have to offer Henderson. I think we should. That being said I'll be behind whoever it is. I would hope every other Dawg would do the same. For the record I don't think it's Henderson. If it had been him we would have already announced it I think. On to FOOTBALL SEASON!

[Bulldog1]

man, this is gonna get ugly

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Mississippi State's Gary Henderson said he's optimistic his interim tag will be removed after this CWS: "We started something special. Fans are in. We?d like to stay and make a run of it. It?s a great place. Who wouldn?t want to be the baseball coach at Mississippi State? I do."
Please Cohen, don't hire Henderson.

[KOdawg1]

I'm curious how long Cohen waits to hire a new coach.

The MLB signing deadline in July 6th & you'd think you would want JT Ginn & a few others to know who the coach is first.

If the coach isn't Henderson, my guess would be next week after the CWS final. Let's the guys get settled back in a little and gives Henderson a chance to enjoy the success before being told "Thanks for your service." Also doesn't give Kyle Peterson and the other anaylists the chance to rip us on national tv for not hiring Hendo

If it's Hendo, probably in the next few days.

[msstate7]

man, this is gonna get ugly

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Mississippi State's Gary Henderson said he's optimistic his interim tag will be removed after this CWS: "We started something special. Fans are in. We’d like to stay and make a run of it. It’s a great place. Who wouldn’t want to be the baseball coach at Mississippi State? I do."

I really think it's a chance. Pretty sure Cohen swung and miss on big targets. If he keeps Henderson, need to hit a HR on that other assistant

[KOdawg1]

man, this is gonna get ugly

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Mississippi State's Gary Henderson said he's optimistic his interim tag will be removed after this CWS: "We started something special. Fans are in. We’d like to stay and make a run of it. It’s a great place. Who wouldn’t want to be the baseball coach at Mississippi State? I do."

So much for the "How do we even know Gary wants the job?" narrative

[ShotgunDawg]

To the Internet fan base, most non-message board gurus I know think we have to offer Henderson. I think we should. That being said I'll be behind whoever it is. I would hope every other Dawg would do the same. For the record I don't think it's Henderson. If it had been him we would have already announced it I think. On to FOOTBALL SEASON!

I'll absolutely support whoever it is

[ShotgunDawg]

If the coach isn't Henderson, my guess would be next week after the CWS final. Let's the guys get settled back in a little and gives Henderson a chance to enjoy the success before being told "Thanks for your service." Also doesn't give Kyle Peterson and the other anaylists the chance to rip us on national tv for not hiring Hendo

If it's Hendo, probably in the next few days.

I think you have to make it quick & address the elephant in the room.

By delaying it, you're making people suffer. Be swift & make a move

[ChillOutDog]

I think you have to make it quick & address the elephant in the room.

By delaying it, you're making people suffer. Be swift & make a move

Agree we should announce Schloss tomorrow morning.

[MSU338]

I have read every post on here. Been around for a while I just don?t find a lot of things that make me passionate about posting and arguing with folks! If post counts is what you levy facts on then your coach will be Henderson level coaching! Schloss is gonna be the coach regardless of the amount of post I have! It all started with Cohen last night with his disappointment with Hendo! Cohen is smart and started the wheels rolling last night on his intentions. He is trying to let the HENDO supporters down easy without being the bad guy. He is a smart man!!

[KOdawg1]

I have read every post on here. Been around for a while I just don?t find a lot of things that make me passionate about posting and arguing with folks! If post counts is what you levy facts on then your coach will be Henderson level coaching! Schloss is gonna be the coach regardless of the amount of post I have! It all started with Cohen last night with his disappointment with Hendo! Cohen is smart and started the wheels rolling last night on his intentions. He is trying to let the HENDO supporters down easy without being the bad guy. He is a smart man!!

Dude, I hope you're right lol

[The Federalist Engineer]

I get the impression that the non-message board portion of our fanbase (aka the overwhelming majority) is either ok with henderson being the guy or want him to be the guy.

All the house wives, drunk guys that become baseball fans in June, and USM fans that masquerade as MSU fans really want Henderson. Seems logical. This is why popular democracy sucks.

"Democracy, the poison of which by a subdivision will only be the more concentered in each part, and consequently the more virulent"

Alexander Hamilton's last letter on public policy (https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Hamilton/01-26-02-0001-0264)

[ShotgunDawg]

Agree we should announce Schloss tomorrow morning.

It's not like the coaches will be sitting back & enjoying this. Life doesn't work that way.

Tomorrow morning when they wake up, it'll be 100% of their focus.

You have to make this quick. Remember, if the coaches aren't retained, they also have to find new jobs & need all the time possible to do that.

[Activated Alpha]

Who can provide valid reasons as to why Henderson deserves to be our head coach without our guys getting hot in the post season as one? What else does he bring to the table that we want in the long run?

[Saltydog]

H/C but not the H/C. If it's Henderson, and I truly think it is, it's going to be a major swing and miss by Cohen.

[msstate7]

I have read every post on here. Been around for a while I just don?t find a lot of things that make me passionate about posting and arguing with folks! If post counts is what you levy facts on then your coach will be Henderson level coaching! Schloss is gonna be the coach regardless of the amount of post I have! It all started with Cohen last night with his disappointment with Hendo! Cohen is smart and started the wheels rolling last night on his intentions. He is trying to let the HENDO supporters down easy without being the bad guy. He is a smart man!!

Just stop. You said it was corbin during the SR

[Todd4State]

I'll absolutely support whoever it is

For me it will be like when Polk II was our coach. I will support MSU baseball but I will not support Henderson being the coach.

[ScottH]

My gut still says Corbin. I have absolutely no basis of that.

[I seen it dawg]

For the love of god not henderson.

[CadaverDawg]

No Gary, the fans are not "in". This one isn't anyway.

[Todd4State]

It's not like the coaches will be sitting back & enjoying this. Life doesn't work that way.

Tomorrow morning when they wake up, it'll be 100% of their focus.

You have to make this quick. Remember, if the coaches aren't retained, they also have to find new jobs & need all the time possible to do that.

I think it will be quick too. Same reasons you stated.

[LibraryDawg]

I have read every post on here. Been around for a while I just don?t find a lot of things that make me passionate about posting and arguing with folks! If post counts is what you levy facts on then your coach will be Henderson level coaching! Schloss is gonna be the coach regardless of the amount of post I have! It all started with Cohen last night with his disappointment with Hendo! Cohen is smart and started the wheels rolling last night on his intentions. He is trying to let the HENDO supporters down easy without being the bad guy. He is a smart man!!

For those of us that turned the radio off last night in disgust, what did Cohen say?

[Todd4State]

No Gary, the fans are not "in". This one isn't anyway.

I saw a poll on Twitter and early returns showed 65% of MSU fans wanted someone else. Over 100 votes.

[Bulldog1]

God, please not Henderson.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Maybe, but I'd argue that outside of Cohen himself, the message board portion of our fan base is among the most educated on the issue.
You're giving some here wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much credit.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

OP has no clue. He's throwing out different coaches every other day. 1 of them have to be right.

[msstate7]

OP has no clue. He's throwing out different coaches every other day. 1 of them have to be right.

This board has finally worn on old IYOK. He's calling people out now haha

[Liverpooldawg]

Maybe, but I'd argue that outside of Cohen himself, the message board portion of our fan base is among the most educated on the issue.

Nah, it's the the least educated portion by far. That includes me. I know a guy that knows what's going on. I haven't seen him in a while and wouldn't ask about THIS if I had. What I have learned from him is that our internet fan base is ignorance personified. I include myself in the ignorance faction.

[ShotgunDawg]

Nah, it's the the least educated portion by far. That includes me. I know a guy that knows what's going on. I haven't seen him in a while and wouldn't ask about THIS if I had. What I have learned from him is that our internet fan base is ignorance personified. I include myself in the ignorance faction.

There's a difference between "knowing what is going on" & "being educated about what we need in a head coach"

I absolutely agree that there are non-message board segments of our fan base that "know what's going on" more than the message board portion, but that doesn't mean that they have the background, experience, & instincts to have a quality opinion about who our head coach should be.

Non everyone, but many on this board do have those.

[Liverpooldawg]

There's a difference between "knowing what is going on" & "being educated about what we need in a head coach"

I absolutely agree that there are non-message board segments of our fan base that "know what's going on" more than the message board portion, but that doesn't mean that they have the background, experience, & instincts to have a quality opinion about who our head coach should be.

Non everyone, but many on this board do have those.

They have a greater base of knowledge about MSU athletics than we do. That isn't debatable. There are a lot of dynamics that go into a SEC athletic program. What you see on the playing field is a big part of it, but there are others. I'll leave it at that.

[Turfdawg67]

God, please not Henderson.

You've said the same thing on three different pages in this thread. We all know you don't want Henderson.

[preachermatt83]

For me it will be like when Polk II was our coach. I will support MSU baseball but I will not support Henderson being the coach.

This

[preachermatt83]

For the love of god not henderson.

I agree. Didn?t you want henderson with GoTro as CIW? Everyone is entitled to change their minds. I know I have a hundred times. I?m just curious what changed your mind. I think for a lot of folks it was these last two games.

[msbulldog]

The previous poster was correct in that we need to wait until the finals are over to announce someone else besides Henderson is going to be our next coach. Because that is all the announcers will talk about ad nauseum and that will be horrible publicity.

[MSU338]

All I can say is that I have never seen a coaching search that has been this tight lipped with information! Cohen is gonna hire a great coach regardless! I have my opinions on who I want it to be and who I have heard from good sources. But the way this has gone, Cohen could throw a curve ball and surprise us all! As long as it isn’t Henderson I am good! I am not concerned with what other coaches say about Hendo, they are coaches and know his track record! And the players relationship with Henderson should not factor in either, they are kids and it’s not about what they want, it’s about what is best for our programlong term! The kids will be fine with a new coach! I expect some info will start leaking within the next few days and we will find out shortly.

[ChillOutDog]

The previous poster was correct in that we need to wait until the finals are over to announce someone else besides Henderson is going to be our next coach. Because that is all the announcers will talk about ad nauseum and that will be horrible publicity.

Who gives a shit if it’s Schloss, Tadlock, Corbin, or Mcdonnell

[sbcmortgageman]

Who gives a shit if it’s Schloss, Tadlock, Corbin, or Mcdonnell

I think everybody cares who it is.

[I seen it dawg]

Nah, it's the the least educated portion by far. That includes me. I know a guy that knows what's going on. I haven't seen him in a while and wouldn't ask about THIS if I had. What I have learned from him is that our internet fan base is ignorance personified. I include myself in the ignorance faction.

I don't know this ignorant place has sure broke a lot of things over the years.....including Cann being canned

[I seen it dawg]

I agree. Didn?t you want henderson with GoTro as CIW? Everyone is entitled to change their minds. I know I have a hundred times. I?m just curious what changed your mind. I think for a lot of folks it was these last two games.

True I did. At the point we were when i stated that it was during all the guys "turning us down" so to me at the time it was the lesser of all evils to make sure we kept Jake in his role. I think Jake will be a superstar coach but now I am willing to lose him to not have Hnpenderson as the guy. The last few weeks sealed it. It sounds counter intuitive but watching us as the pressure mounted and we got deeper shows me all the little things we don't do over the course of a season that i just can't live with. And just about all of it comes from the pitching coach (mentality, terrible catching) to the head guy decisions (Skelton, and the worst not having a coach at 1b coaching). I can't get past it.

[preachermatt83]

True I did. At the point we were when i stated that it was during all the guys "turning us down" so to me at the time it was the lesser of all evils to make sure we kept Jake in his role. I think Jake will be a superstar coach but now I am willing to lose him to not have Hnpenderson as the guy. The last few weeks sealed it. It sounds counter intuitive but watching us as the pressure mounted and we got deeper shows me all the little things we don't do over the course of a season that i just can't live with. And just about all of it comes from the pitching coach (mentality, terrible catching) to the head guy decisions (Skelton, and the worst not having a coach at 1b coaching). I can't get past it.

This is where I am on it as well.

[BuckyIsAB****]

We will be lucky if we get Lane ****ing Kiffin after the shameful display Cohen made on the radio last night.

Just stay in Mobile Bay

[I seen it dawg]

Schloss or just give it to Jake. Veteran team that trusts him already. Let him hire a young dynamic pitching coach and let's roll.

[maroonmania]

True I did. At the point we were when i stated that it was during all the guys "turning us down" so to me at the time it was the lesser of all evils to make sure we kept Jake in his role. I think Jake will be a superstar coach but now I am willing to lose him to not have Hnpenderson as the guy. The last few weeks sealed it. It sounds counter intuitive but watching us as the pressure mounted and we got deeper shows me all the little things we don't do over the course of a season that i just can't live with. And just about all of it comes from the pitching coach (mentality, terrible catching) to the head guy decisions (Skelton, and the worst not having a coach at 1b coaching). I can't get past it.

We had player coaches at 1B long before Henderson. I know we've had them under Cohen and Cannizaro. Just sayin'.

[3rdGen]

We will be lucky if we get Lane ****ing Kiffin after the shameful display Cohen made on the radio last night.

We would be lucky if you would stop posting. Get outta here!

[preachermatt83]

Schloss or just give it to Jake. Veteran team that trusts him already. Let him hire a young dynamic pitching coach and let's roll.

I’d 10 to 1 rather hire GoTro than Henderson

[MarketingBully]

If we aren’t able to get Schloss or McDonnell, why not hire the coaches who were their right hand men who helped them build those programs? Whitting at Houston (Schloss) or Lemonis at Indiana (McDonnell)? Either of those guys would win at a very high level at MSU and are relentless recruiters. Looking at things from a Schloss/McDonnell or bust point of view is very narrow minded. There are a ton of up and coming coaches that would win at a high level AND would be better options then Henderson.

[I seen it dawg]

We had player coaches at 1B long before Henderson. I know we've had them under Cohen and Cannizaro. Just sayin'.

And it was dumb every time it was done no matter who the coach is. That shit if for fall and scrimmages. Not for the real thing.

[MSU338]

Not sure who just yet but the pot is boiling!! I hope one of my hunches is correct :)

[DawgFromOxford]

And it was dumb every time it was done no matter who the coach is. That shit if for fall and scrimmages. Not for the real thing.

What is the difference between having an actual 1st base coach and a player performing the duty? Aren't they mainly just out there to collect gear anyways? Other than telling the batter to run on a passed ball what other duties does a 1st base coach perform?