Have any of you thought that maybe Henderson don't want the job?

[Jack Lambert]

He might be happy being a pitching coach.

[Captain Falcon]

No, because that?s not true. If Cohen offers him the job he is going to take it.

To me, that theory is just wishful thinking from people who are REALLY opposed to hiring him. I?m not saying he?s my first choice but I?m more open to it than I was a couple of weeks ago.

[Tbonewannabe]

No, because that?s not true. If Cohen offers him the job he is going to take it.

To me, that theory is just wishful thinking from people who are REALLY opposed to hiring him. I?m not saying he?s my first choice but I?m more open to it than I was a couple of weeks ago.

Cohen talked him out of retirement to even come to MSU. Hendo said it himself that the Head job is pretty much your life. I am not saying he should have the job or not but the SEC is another level that is required of a coach. MSU would also be more stress to win than UK and he got burnt out at UK.

[Goose Willis]

I am all for Cohen hiring Hendo if he believes he is the right fit for the team. Although I am curious to see if Hendo is considering retiring after making it to Omaha. Going out with a bang situation.

[Liverpooldawg]

I have heard rumors that that may be the case.

[Cooterpoot]

We've got a winner!

[starkvegasdawg]

USA Today has an article today stating he does want the job next season.

[mparkerfd20]

Welp guess we know who our coach next year will be then. *sigh*

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

No, because that?s not true. If Cohen offers him the job he is going to take it.

To me, that theory is just wishful thinking from people who are REALLY opposed to hiring him. I?m not saying he?s my first choice but I?m more open to it than I was a couple of weeks ago.

not necessarily true. This is a guy who went from head man to pitching coach. He was thrown into the head coaching role again. I think Jack brings up a valid point.

[Political Hack]

I have heard rumors that that may be the case.

If he is not selected as head coach, I could definitely see that happening.

[RocketDawg]

If he is not selected as head coach, I could definitely see that happening.

I'd always heard that he didn't want the interim spot, and presumably the permanent head position, but a person can hear anything. But he's what ... 56? That's not exactly dead with old age. He has another good 15 years of coaching in him if he wants it. Saban is 70 or near it, and he's still going strong. And being HC at Alabama football is no doubt more stressful than baseball at any college.

[msstatelp1]

USA Today has an article today stating he does want the job next season.

There's now an SI linked article on the board saying he does also.

[Political Hack]

I'd always heard that he didn't want the interim spot, and presumably the permanent head position, but a person can hear anything. But he's what ... 56? That's not exactly dead with old age. He has another good 15 years of coaching in him if he wants it. Saban is 70 or near it, and he's still going strong. And being HC at Alabama football is no doubt more stressful than baseball at any college.

Jim at Miami just retired after 20-30 years at the same school. He coached forever. Henderson has plenty left in the tank. That's actually the only thing that worries me. If he gets it and we're a perennial visitor to Omaha but never win it, will they just accept that over the next 10-15 years? That'll be a question for any coach I suppose.

[ScoobaDawg]

USA Today has an article today stating he does want the job next season.

link?

[Jack Lambert]

I'd always heard that he didn't want the interim spot, and presumably the permanent head position, but a person can hear anything. But he's what ... 56? That's not exactly dead with old age. He has another good 15 years of coaching in him if he wants it. Saban is 70 or near it, and he's still going strong. And being HC at Alabama football is no doubt more stressful than baseball at any college.

To be honest, there is a reason Saban hires every SEC coach who gets let go to be an analysts.

[basedog]

Good assistants and good players make a good HC, not saying Hendo is the next Coach but it does seem as if he lets his assistants get involved. If he does get the HC job, I bet he turns the pitching over to whomever that Coach would be. Just saying.

[RocketDawg]

To be honest, there is a reason Saban hires every SEC coach who gets let go to be an analysts.

I know he's not being hired, but my Alabama friends say that it was only about a $35K job. I didn't know there was a job in football that paid that little.

[Turfdawg67]

Welp guess we know who our coach next year will be then. *sigh*
Sigh... we may actually host a Regional next year on way to the CWS. Woe is us and our sh*tty coach.

[Liverpooldawg]

If he is not selected as head coach, I could definitely see that happening.

Look at the SIarticle I linked in another thread. Evidently what I heard I was wrong. He DOES want the job.

[Todd4State]

Jim at Miami just retired after 20-30 years at the same school. He coached forever. Henderson has plenty left in the tank. That's actually the only thing that worries me. If he gets it and we're a perennial visitor to Omaha but never win it, will they just accept that over the next 10-15 years? That'll be a question for any coach I suppose.

My biggest fear is he becomes the Ed Orgeron of college baseball if we hired him.

[Todd4State]

Sigh... we may actually host a Regional next year on way to the CWS. Woe is us and our sh*tty coach.

We should have hosted this year.

[Todd4State]

No, because that?s not true. If Cohen offers him the job he is going to take it.

To me, that theory is just wishful thinking from people who are REALLY opposed to hiring him. I?m not saying he?s my first choice but I?m more open to it than I was a couple of weeks ago.

The fact that so many are against hiring him tells me that we probably shouldn't hire him.

[Liverpooldawg]

The fact that so many are against hiring him tells me that we probably shouldn't hire him.

I think you might be wrong there. So many of our vocal internet fans are against it. From what I can tell most of the rest are not.

[Todd4State]

I think you might be wrong there. So many of our vocal internet fans are against it. From what I can tell most of the rest are not.

The "vocal internet" is a fairly good cross section of our fans and what our fans are thinking.

[99jc]

The "vocal internet" is a fairly good cross section of our fans and what our fans are thinking.

the NCAA says it has no record of a team with an interim coach advancing to the CWS. if we win it all its a no brainer he will be our next head coach and I don't see how any of you could hate that. He will have done what no other coach in MSU history has done and that's win a National Championship. CASE CLOSED!

[West Tn Dawg]

What I find funny is ............
If he were at any other school and got thrown in the situation he inherited here and took them to the CWS, everyone on here would be screaming we should be looking at CGH!
I can hear everyone now! Hey look at CGH, he took over a train wreck and guided them to a CWS, he's got to be good!

[Activated Alpha]

What I find funny is ............
If he were at any other school and got thrown in the situation he inherited here and took them to the CWS, everyone on here would be screaming we should be looking at CGH!
I can hear everyone now! Hey look at CGH, he took over a train wreck and guided them to a CWS, he's got to be good!

That's probably because we wouldn't have watched Henderson make head scratching decisions on a weekend basis.

[Todd4State]

the NCAA says it has no record of a team with an interim coach advancing to the CWS. if we win it all its a no brainer he will be our next head coach and I don't see how any of you could hate that. He will have done what no other coach in MSU history has done and that's win a National Championship. CASE CLOSED!

He would have done it with players that were recruited by Cohen and Cann for the most part.

If we hired him there's a good chance that he would be "burned out" again in about 3-5 years. There is a HUGE difference between being the interim coach and being the full time head coach. It would be a hire that would set us back about five years.

And remember-

I said on Genespage pre-sixpack that hiring Ron Polk back was a terrible idea. It was.

I said that we should hire Cohen and after a couple of rough years- I ended up being right again.

I was one of the few that had serious concerns about Cann's lack of experience as a head coach- and while it initially looked like a good hire his lack of experience was a big factor in him not being able to control himself.


So, I'm 3-3 so far. Hiring Henderson would be a mistake. I don't care what the media think about us not hiring him. I don't care what the people that don't follow baseball and the Pollyanna's like Liverpool think. If we want to be the program that we all want to be we will not hire Gary Henderson as our head coach.


And if Cohen does hire Henderson- we should absolutely rake him over the coals. I'm not real impressed with how Cohen has handled this thing in particular running his mouth on Bo Bounds about how we're hiring a HOF coach with CWS experience and all of that. But we'll see what Cohen delivers at the end of this thing.

[Todd4State]

What I find funny is ............
If he were at any other school and got thrown in the situation he inherited here and took them to the CWS, everyone on here would be screaming we should be looking at CGH!
I can hear everyone now! Hey look at CGH, he took over a train wreck and guided them to a CWS, he's got to be good!

MSU baseball is an absolutely different animal than most baseball programs. We have fans that actually care and know the sport.

[Bulldog1]

Hiring Henderson would be a mistake. I don't care what the media think about us not hiring him. I don't care what the people that don't follow baseball and the Pollyanna's like Liverpool think. If we want to be the program that we all want to be we will not hire Gary Henderson as our head coach.

I agree with this 100%. I'm pretty sure a few weeks ago not many people were wanting Henderson to be the next head coach- what has changed from then until now? This run to the CWS? That's not enough for me when we have 8 years of Henderson's time as Head Coach at Kentucky to look at. Credit to him for what he's done this year, but he is not the long-term solution for us.

[preachermatt83]

He would have done it with players that were recruited by Cohen and Cann for the most part.

If we hired him there's a good chance that he would be "burned out" again in about 3-5 years. There is a HUGE difference between being the interim coach and being the full time head coach. It would be a hire that would set us back about five years.

And remember-

I said on Genespage pre-sixpack that hiring Ron Polk back was a terrible idea. It was.

I said that we should hire Cohen and after a couple of rough years- I ended up being right again.

I was one of the few that had serious concerns about Cann's lack of experience as a head coach- and while it initially looked like a good hire his lack of experience was a big factor in him not being able to control himself.


So, I'm 3-3 so far. Hiring Henderson would be a mistake. I don't care what the media think about us not hiring him. I don't care what the people that don't follow baseball and the Pollyanna's like Liverpool think. If we want to be the program that we all want to be we will not hire Gary Henderson as our head coach.


And if Cohen does hire Henderson- we should absolutely rake him over the coals. I'm not real impressed with how Cohen has handled this thing in particular running his mouth on Bo Bounds about how we're hiring a HOF coach with CWS experience and all of that. But we'll see what Cohen delivers at the end of this thing.

Man this is one heck of a post. Great points Todd.

[preachermatt83]

I agree with this 100%. I'm pretty sure a few weeks ago not many people were wanting Henderson to be the next head coach- what has changed from then until now? This run to the CWS? That's not enough for me when we have 8 years of Henderson's time as Head Coach at Kentucky to look at. Credit to him for what he's done this year, but he is not the long-term solution for us.

Truth

[maroonmania]

the NCAA says it has no record of a team with an interim coach advancing to the CWS. if we win it all its a no brainer he will be our next head coach and I don't see how any of you could hate that. He will have done what no other coach in MSU history has done and that's win a National Championship. CASE CLOSED!

Well that's a different story, if Gary Henderson wins us our long awaited Natty then he can have a lifetime contract as far as I care. I'll just be shocked beyond shocked if we were to actually pull it off though.

[preachermatt83]

My biggest fear is he becomes the Ed Orgeron of college baseball if we hired him.

I think he?d win in the short term. He?s got GoTro and Mangum to lean on. It?s the long term I worry abt with Henderson. There is no limit to what A real legit top of the line coach would do with next years team tho.

[Todd4State]

I think he?d win in the short term. He?s got GoTro and Mangum to lean on. It?s the long term I worry abt with Henderson. There is no limit to what A real legit top of the line coach would do with next years team tho.

I agree. Similar to how Polk was able to live off of Maholm, Papelbon, and Tatum for a couple of years.

[Schultzy]

Recruiting is for the younger coaches anymore. I’d hire Hendo if he wins the Natty for sure but outside of that you gotta go with some young dude.

[preachermatt83]

I agree. Similar to how Polk was able to live off of Maholm, Papelbon, and Tatum for a couple of years.

Exactly

[Cooterpoot]

Gary would be the typical baseball hire for us. Someone connected to State with a short shelf life. We’d be doing this hiring thing again in 4 years. I don’t believe Henderson has the vision or energy to do what can be done here. He’s old school and simplistic.
But, that SI piece was a set up for Henderson. There’s a reason so much was told in it.
17 you Canz you sorry sack of shit!

[99jc]

I agree. Similar to how Polk was able to live off of Maholm, Papelbon, and Tatum for a couple of years.

let me ask you one simple question Todd or any of you. would you sacrifice the next 3-4 years hiring Henderson for the National championship this year? I say YES.

[Cooterpoot]

How bout we wait and see on that championship. Nobody is arguing he’s not the hire if we win it. That’s a foregone conclusion if he wants to be the HC.

[msbulldog]

let me ask you one simple question Todd or any of you. would you sacrifice the next 3-4 years hiring Henderson for the National championship this year? I say YES.

You are a 17ing idiot. you Dik!

[Todd4State]

let me ask you one simple question Todd or any of you. would you sacrifice the next 3-4 years hiring Henderson for the National championship this year? I say YES.

I'd rather win a National Championship this year and then have many years of championship caliber baseball for years to come without 3-4 down years after the first national championship.

[MaroonFlounder]

Edited. Previous comments said the same thing. Hendo wants the HC job.