Tennessee Tech HC [Archive]

Cowbell

06-10-2018, 02:34 PM

Anybody have an analysis. It would be fun to have that kind of offense at the Dude.

Dawg61

06-10-2018, 02:46 PM

Anybody have an analysis. It would be fun to have that kind of offense at the Dude.

Someone put up the coach's stats last week. He's been bleh except for the last two years. This offense is by far his outlier one with over 134 HR's on the year.

Todd4State

06-10-2018, 02:51 PM

That's a tough place to win though.

MetEdDawg

06-10-2018, 03:04 PM

That's a tough place to win though.

This. Tennessee Tech isn't exactly a great place to win. Talk about few resources. He's won at a really difficult place.

deadheaddawg

06-10-2018, 03:18 PM

Someone put up the coach's stats last week. He's been bleh except for the last two years. This offense is by far his outlier one with over 134 HR's on the year.

That's was me. Here it is again. And honestly it would make zero sense to hire him instead of Cohen

Matt Bragga
14 years there. 3rd regional. 445-383-2 overall. Hard pass. Looks like he struck gold with this team. Two of his 3 regionals were these past 2 years. Those were his big HR numbers too.

Take out these last two years and he is very meh

As far as hrs go
2018 hit 134 so far (supers)
2017 hit 99 (regional)
2016 hit 68
2015 hit 41
2014 hit 83
2013 hit 54
2012 hit 49
2011 hit 42
2010 hit 62

That's as far back as I could find it. The other regional ws 2009. Definitely not what we need.

Dawg61

06-10-2018, 03:19 PM

He has been named back to back OVC coach of the year. Definitely struck it rich with the bats the last two years. They are apparently big on "launch angles" which has become the hot trend in hitting in baseball recently.

Quaoarsking

06-10-2018, 03:25 PM

Someone put up the coach's stats last week. He's been bleh except for the last two years. This offense is by far his outlier one with over 134 HR's on the year.

Not true. His conference record is much better than ours has been in the same stretch. The OVC is a 1-bid league, so he only has a few Regionals, but if he posts these kind of conference records in the SEC, he'll be hosting a lot and going to Omaha a lot.

He played at Kentucky. Does anyone know if they considered him when they hired Minge? Because it seems like he should've been the stronger candidate.

Season
Team
Overall
Conference
Standing
Postseason

Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_Tech_Golden_Eagles) (Ohio Valley Conference (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_Valley_Conference)) (2004-present)

2004 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
15-31
10-16
8th

2005 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
13-42
6-20
9th

2006 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
18-36
11-16
7th

2007 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
26-28
12-15
5th

2008 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
35-23-1
13-14
5th

2009 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
31-24-1
10-11-1
5th
NCAA Regionals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NCAA_Division_I_Baseball_Tournament)

2010 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
31-25
14-6
1st

2011 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
25-29
12-12
4th

2012 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
21-32
10-16
8th

2013 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
40-17
24-6
1st

2014 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
40-19
18-12
2nd

2015 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
26-29
16-14
2nd

2016 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
31-24
17-13
4th

2017 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
41-21
23-7
4th
NCAA Regionals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_NCAA_Division_I_Baseball_Tournament)

2018 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
52-10
27-3
1st
NCAA Super Regionals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_NCAA_Division_I_Baseball_Tournament)

Tennessee Tech:
445-383-2
223-181-1

Total:
692-524-2

Dawg61

06-10-2018, 03:27 PM

McNamee is our HR leader with 8, Tech has 8 players with eight or more HRs and 7 of them have 10 or more and a couple have 17 or more. Luke is our leader in RBIs with 44. Tech has 7 guys with 48 or more RBIs. A couple in the 70's and 80's. Put that in perspective Kody Clemens of Texas just hit his 70th RBI. Their offense is ridiculous.

Quaoarsking

06-10-2018, 03:28 PM

I don't think he's a home run hire, but he's a standup double. Much better than hiring the Purdue coach just because he made 1 regional in 2 years there, or keeping Henderson.

msstate7

06-10-2018, 03:34 PM

Just imagine what this guy could do with Allen, rowdey, Westburg, foscue, Hatcher, and Anderson. It would an exciting brand of baseball.

Dawg61

06-10-2018, 03:35 PM

Not true. His conference record is much better than ours has been in the same stretch. The OVC is a 1-bid league, so he only has a few Regionals, but if he posts these kind of conference records in the SEC, he'll be hosting a lot and going to Omaha a lot.

I spy 3 seasons that aren't bleh for the OVC and I already gave him credit for the last two. I'm not eliminating the guy. I am certainly curious about him. Pitching wins but I do love me some offense and power hitting with guys that look like they can beat the shit outta everybody and go drink 20 beers at Hooters that night. I think Bragg has introduced some new hitting ideas/techniques and it's taken off like fire. If you can combine some filthy pitching with it he'd be a deadly combo and a hell of a sneaky pick for coach. Not impressed with their pitchers but maybe he just hasn't had enough time to compliment his big boy hitters with some hardball filthy pitchers.

deadheaddawg

06-10-2018, 03:35 PM

deadheaddawg

06-10-2018, 03:41 PM

He has finished in conference

9th = 1x
8th = 2x
7th = 1x
5th = 3x
4th = 3x
2nd = 2x
1st = 3x

Come on guys

Dawg61

06-10-2018, 03:42 PM

People here are amazing. All I have heard for months is we are a better program than Henderson. Doesn't matter that he did a outstanding job this year

But we Should hire TN Tech's coach based off of the homerun production of his teams....1 out if the 14 years he was there

Two of the last 14 years and it appears it's because he has a new hitting strategy/technique he's been implementing the last two years. The launch angle thing is relatively new to baseball. It's just recently become popular and it's the hottest thing at the MLB level right now. I'd be alright with us taking a gamble on someone like this that maybe the pioneer of the new trend for hitting over the next decade in college baseball. It's like spying the NASCAR offense coach 8 years ago before 75% of college football offenses are using it.

shoeless joe

06-10-2018, 03:48 PM

msstate7

06-10-2018, 03:50 PM

He has finished in conference

9th = 1x
8th = 2x
7th = 1x
5th = 3x
4th = 3x
2nd = 2x
1st = 3x

Come on guys

Where he finished in conference early in his career means little without context. What kind of program did he take over? Last 6 years, he has an avg finish of ~ 2nd with an avg record of 38-20 (20-10)

Quaoarsking

06-10-2018, 03:52 PM

He has finished in conference

9th = 1x
8th = 2x
7th = 1x
5th = 3x
4th = 3x
2nd = 2x
1st = 3x

Come on guys

We haven't had a stretch that good since ... the 80s? Never?

Take away the first 3 years of rebuilding and learning how to be a head coach and it's even better.

MetEdDawg

06-10-2018, 03:52 PM

Well let's not forget he also just got 2 pitchers drafted, one in the 4th round and one in the 7th round. It takes time to get talent to a smaller program like Tenn Tech and it will almost always have a cyclical nature to it because of how hard it is to establish yourself as a consistent recruiter at smaller schools.

At small programs it takes a lot of skill from your coaches to get good, but it also takes luck. You have to make a lot of unranked recruits good enough all at the same time to have a special season nationally. Getting to the supers this year and the regionals last year will probably start that process of Bragga being able to maintain success at Tenn Tech.

Dawg61

06-10-2018, 03:55 PM

Baseball fans, at any level, are the dumbest sheep that you can find

What's dumb is thinking we can swing our big dick and get any coach in the country we want to be the head coach at Mississippi State like we are Alabama football. That's dumb. It's not dumb to be discussing potentially the next hot coach at a mid-major who we could be facing against in the SEC very soon.

msstate7

06-10-2018, 03:56 PM

From his bio of tenn tech site...

"Recruiting great young men that are willing to work, lead and make great decisions, then helping them develop into great baseball players, has been a key to the success of Tech baseball. The Golden Eagle squad had players sign with Major League Baseball for nine straight years (a streak that ended in 2016), including an OVC-record six student-athletes signing after the 2014 season.

During this streak, 18 young men were signed by an MLB club, 16 of which were never drafted before. The two that had been drafted previously both improved their draft stock significantly while at Tech. Stephen Pryor went from a 42nd-round draft pick to a fifth-rounder, eventually pitching in the big leagues with the Seattle Mariners. The 18 players that have signed since 2007 more than doubled the total of players that had signed with an MLB club from Tennessee Tech since the MLB draft began in 1965."

Quaoarsking

06-10-2018, 03:57 PM

I spy 3 seasons that aren't bleh for the OVC and I already gave him credit for the last two. I'm not eliminating the guy. I am certainly curious about him. Pitching wins but I do love me some offense and power hitting with guys that look like they can beat the shit outta everybody and go drink 20 beers at Hooters that night. I think Bragg has introduced some new hitting ideas/techniques and it's taken off like fire. If you can combine some filthy pitching with it he'd be a deadly combo and a hell of a sneaky pick for coach. Not impressed with their pitchers but maybe he just hasn't had enough time to compliment his big boy hitters with some hardball filthy pitchers.

I disagree. I've adjusted his postseason success for what it would be if he posted these conference records in the SEC. He's never been that great in the out-of-conference, but that's to be expected because of the talent gap that you normally get at an OVC school. It's natural to assume that if he posted these SEC records, he'd have a correspondingly typical OOC record:

Season
Team
Overall
Conference
Standing
Postseason
SEC EQUIVALENT

Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_Tech_Golden_Eagles) (Ohio Valley Conference (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_Valley_Conference)) (2004-present)

2004 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
15-31
10-16
8th

No postseason

2005 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
13-42
6-20
9th

No postseason

2006 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
18-36
11-16
7th

No postseason

2007 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
26-28
12-15
5th

3 seed

2008 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
35-23-1
13-14
5th

2 seed

2009 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
31-24-1
10-11-1
5th
NCAA Regionals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NCAA_Division_I_Baseball_Tournament)
2 or 3 seed

2010 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
31-25
14-6
1st

Host, top 8 national seed

2011 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
25-29
12-12
4th

2 seed

2012 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
21-32
10-16
8th

No postseason

2013 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
40-17
24-6
1st

Host, #1 national seed

2014 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
40-19
18-12
2nd

Host, possible top 8 national seed

2015 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
26-29
16-14
2nd

2 seed or maybe host

2016 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
31-24
17-13
4th

Probably host

2017 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
41-21
23-7
4th
NCAA Regionals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_NCAA_Division_I_Baseball_Tournament)
Host, possible #1 national seed

2018 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
52-10
27-3
1st
NCAA Super Regionals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_NCAA_Division_I_Baseball_Tournament)
Greatest regular sesason in college baseball history

Tennessee Tech:
445-383-2
223-181-1

Total:
692-524-2

That's way better than we've been lately, maybe ever.

Quaoarsking

06-10-2018, 03:59 PM

He's the mid-major equivalent of a team that's hosted 5 (or maybe as many as 7) of the last 9 seasons, with 2 #1 national seeds.

Maybe he wouldn't be able to click with the elite level talent he would need to post similar conference records here - it would be a risk. But if we really can't get Schloss or McDonnell (and we should never, ever give up on them, no matter what they tell Kendall Rogers), he'd be an acceptable second-tier level hire.

Dawg61

06-10-2018, 04:12 PM

I disagree. I've adjusted his postseason success for what it would be if he posted these conference records in the SEC. He's never been that great in the out-of-conference, but that's to be expected because of the talent gap that you normally get at an OVC school. It's natural to assume that if he posted these SEC records, he'd have a correspondingly typical OOC record:

Season
Team
Overall
Conference
Standing
Postseason
SEC EQUIVALENT

Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_Tech_Golden_Eagles) (Ohio Valley Conference (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_Valley_Conference)) (2004-present)

2004 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
15-31
10-16
8th

No postseason

2005 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
13-42
6-20
9th

No postseason

2006 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
18-36
11-16
7th

No postseason

2007 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
26-28
12-15
5th

3 seed

2008 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
35-23-1
13-14
5th

2 seed

2009 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
31-24-1
10-11-1
5th
NCAA Regionals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NCAA_Division_I_Baseball_Tournament)
2 or 3 seed

2010 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
31-25
14-6
1st

Host, top 8 national seed

2011 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
25-29
12-12
4th

2 seed

2012 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
21-32
10-16
8th

No postseason

2013 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
40-17
24-6
1st

Host, #1 national seed

2014 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
40-19
18-12
2nd

Host, possible top 8 national seed

2015 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
26-29
16-14
2nd

2 seed or maybe host

2016 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
31-24
17-13
4th

Probably host

2017 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
41-21
23-7
4th
NCAA Regionals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_NCAA_Division_I_Baseball_Tournament)
Host, possible #1 national seed

2018 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_NCAA_Division_I_baseball_season)
Tennessee Tech
52-10
27-3
1st
NCAA Super Regionals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_NCAA_Division_I_Baseball_Tournament)
Greatest regular sesason in college baseball history

Tennessee Tech:
445-383-2
223-181-1

Total:
692-524-2

That's way better than we've been lately, maybe ever.

Come on man, I appreciate the work you did on this but it's extremely flawed logic and you know that. Going 16-14 in the Ohio Valley Conference in no way translates to going 16-14 in the SEC the same year.

msstate7

06-10-2018, 04:14 PM

Come on man, I appreciate the work you did on this but it's extremely flawed logic and you know that. Going 16-14 in the Ohio Valley Conference in no way translates to going 16-14 in the SEC the same year.

Winning a team with zero baseball track record would seem to translate to winning at a team with a nice baseball track record though

Quaoarsking

06-10-2018, 04:22 PM

Come on man, I appreciate the work you did on this but it's extremely flawed logic and you know that. Going 16-14 in the Ohio Valley Conference in no way translates to going 16-14 in the SEC the same year.

I know it's not equivalent, but it does show he can recruit and/or coach up players to the level that they can be very successful against similar talent and budget programs.

Whether that translates to recruiting well in the SEC, who knows, but I don't think it's a bad hire at all if we choose him. He's easily more impressive to me than Cliff Godwin, Mark Wasikowski, or Gary Henderson.

Dawg61

06-10-2018, 04:24 PM

Winning a team with zero baseball track record would seem to translate to winning at a team with a nice baseball track record though

Sure. Bragg should be on our radar no doubt.

Dawg61

06-10-2018, 04:27 PM

I know it's not equivalent, but it does show he can recruit and/or coach up players to the level that they can be very successful against similar talent and budget programs.

Whether that translates to recruiting well in the SEC, who knows, but I don't think it's a bad hire at all if we choose him. He's easily more impressive to me than Cliff Godwin, Mark Wasikowski, or Gary Henderson.

I'd put him above all those guys as well. I was a pitcher and love pitching but I do love me some big boys that can smash as hitters too. I'd be more inclined to give a no doubt I am totally all in if Bragg was producing pitching like he's producing hitting. Great pitching has fewer slumps than great hitting.

msstate7

06-10-2018, 04:27 PM

Sure. Bragg should be on our radar no doubt.

I just don't see it. Once Cohen gets by the big proven winners, I think Cohen will hire a guy that mirrors his own style. I expect a more conservative coach

Dawg61

06-10-2018, 04:29 PM

I just don't see it. Once Cohen gets by the big proven winners, I think Cohen will hire a guy that mirrors his own style. I expect a more conservative coach

Hope you're wrong. I hate conservative Cohen ball.

deadheaddawg

06-10-2018, 04:30 PM

Winning a team with zero baseball track record would seem to translate to winning at a team with a nice baseball track record though

Then Bianco would win really really big here by that logic.

He turned a trash program into a consistent post season program.

Let's drop $5 million a year on him. He will win a natty every year here

msstate7

06-10-2018, 04:33 PM

Quaoarsking

06-10-2018, 04:38 PM

MetEdDawg

06-10-2018, 04:43 PM

Then Bianco would win really really big here by that logic.

He turned a trash program into a consistent post season program.

Let's drop $5 million a year on him. He will win a natty every year here

So you don't think Bianco would win in Starkville? Nice jump for you to go to winning a national title every year and 5 million dollars. Come on man.

What this year should prove is if we can find the right cultural fit it doesn't matter what level they are at. We got to a super regional 3 straight years with 3 different coaches. Hopefully our fan base realizes this has to do more with culture of the hire than prestige of the hire. Yes Cohen boxed himself into a corner on that. But I'll give him a pass. This is his alma mater and he's got high expectations. Good for him.

5049

06-10-2018, 06:50 PM

msstate7

06-10-2018, 06:59 PM

Another angle to this - a lot of their bombs will end up as long fly balls in Omaha. That doesn?t mean all that stuff with launch angles and things isn?t for real, it definitely is. MLB obviously believes in it

I?m just pointing out that a lot of those bombastic offenses die in Omaha. Pitching, defense and gap power gets it done there

Calling tenn tech to beat Texas. I like it

State82

06-10-2018, 07:03 PM

I?m just pointing out that a lot of those bombastic offenses die in Omaha. Pitching, defense and gap power gets it done there

Yep.

msstate7

06-10-2018, 07:13 PM

Cooterpoot

06-10-2018, 07:37 PM

At this point, some of you would hire Hugh Freeze?s dick pimple just to make a hire.

Bark

06-10-2018, 07:41 PM

I hope he gets an interview. He?s a really sharp baseball mind with a contagious personality. He would be a solid hire and I think he could be really successful here. He and Butch are good friends too. So there is a connection there. He was head coach at Bevill State CC in his mid 20s after pro ball and had a lot of success and then coach Shoop hired him as an assistant at Birmingham Southern. They won a ton and I think won a few NAIA championships while he was there. Bragga got the head job at bham southern when shoop left for UAB and they made a regional his first year as head coach (it was also Birmingham southern?s only year as a D1 school). When Birmingham southern moved to DIII Bragga took the job at Tennessee Tech and has been there ever since.

I would rather have McDonnell, Schloss, or Tadlock. But if we can?t get those guys he would be a really solid hire, IMO.

5049

06-10-2018, 08:16 PM

They hit 133 2b (same as us, and we were 1st in sec) and 16 triples. If you transfers their totals to the sec, they'd be 1st in HR, tied for 1st in 2b, and 3rd in 3b

In that case he might make a really good hire

This tends not to matter most times because most team that drop bombs usually do other offensive things well too. But when the long balls dry up and you have to play defense, that’s usually where the TN Tech types are vulnerable

But, at MSU, their coach would have more access to guys who excel at the plate and in the field

5049

06-10-2018, 08:18 PM

Hope you're wrong. I hate conservative Cohen ball.
This is the type of post that outs your baseball IQ

Cohen is the opposite of conservative in his coaching

Dawg61

06-10-2018, 09:13 PM

This is the type of post that outs your baseball IQ

Cohen is the opposite of conservative in his coaching

Lol Cohen bunted in the first inning with no outs and a guy on first