Schlossnagle pulls his name from MSU coach consideration

[Todd4State]

Per Kendall Rodgers

https://twitter.com/KendallRogers/status/1003460267634765831

-Added tweet-Scooba

[preachermatt83]

Name from consideration

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Nm

[runwildjerious]

BREAKING: Sources have informed me that @TCU_Baseball head coach Jim Schlossnagle has pulled his name out of the @HailStateBB job and will remain at #TCU. That?s huge news for the #Frogs on the eve of the draft.

[bostondawg]

Bad, bad news. ****.

[ShotgunDawg]

Well, Schloss is stuck at TCU for the rest his career.

If that's what he wants, then fine, but he'll never be offered a better job.

I can't ever blame someone for liking their life.

That being said, Cohen better not 17 this up.

Most of me wants to trust Cohen, but a part of me believes, "Here we go. Drama, drama, drama"

[preachermatt83]

I'm now fully convinced nobody, and I mean nobody on this site knows anything about anything. We all are clueless

[mstatefan91]

Well shit

[ShotgunDawg]

I'm now fully convinced nobody, and I mean nobody on this site knows anything about anything. We all are clueless

We aren't all clueless. I would be curious why Schloss pulled his name out.

I know that Schloss had never visited MSU & wanted to visit before committing to anything. What I don't know is if that visit ever happened

[BeardoMSU]

We're going to end up hiring Hendo**

[preachermatt83]

Is it possible that cohen blew it by delaying?

[Todd4State]

Is it possible that cohen blew it by delaying?

No. It just wasn't quite the done deal that some believed it to be.

[Rick Danko]

Some ?insiders? on this board look like fools now....

[Covercorner2]

Brick City, USA

[hopsondawg22]

So now do we turn the heat up on McDonnell?

[CadaverDawg]

Ouch, if it's not McDonnell it's botched

[Cooterpoot]

McDonnell...come on down

[Leroy Jenkins]

No shopping mall.

[MagicDawg]

A very M-State moment. Of course this breaks mid game.

[Pit Bull]

I'm now fully convinced nobody, and I mean nobody on this site knows anything about anything. We all are clueless

I tried to tell you!!!.....LOL!....including me. I felt it was Schloss because all of you were certain about it.....but my #1 choice was Corbin. He has the best resume. However, that being said.....I don't see him leaving Nashville, kind of like I felt Schloss would have it tough leaving Ft. Worth. Both nice metro places to live and retire. Sounds like Mama may have gotten cold feet after researching Starkvegas and things to do....where to shop. That type stuff. It wasn't the job....I think a young unmarried Schloss would have jumped at it.

[Bully75]

Swift kick in the ole groin, huh?

[KOdawg1]

That's about right. We've spent all this time getting our hopes up, so it's only fitting this nut kick happened. Some of ya'll got some explaining to do.

[Quaoarsking]

If we end up with McDonnell instead, that's a win. He's the superior coach.

And that's not sour grapes. I wanted to hire McDonnell when we hired Cohen, and when we hired Cannizaro.

[civildawg]

It?s McDonnell or bust now assuming O?Conner Or Sullivan isn?t coming

[ShotgunDawg]

Just a theory, but I wonder if Cohen chose McDonnell & told Schloss tonight so that he could save some face by removing himself from the search.

It's got to be McDonnell or it's a botched search

[Bulldog1]

It better be McDonnell

[Pit Bull]

TCU probably upped the ante and facilities upgrades to keep make him stay.

[KOdawg1]

Dammit, there goes all my V-cash

[dawgoneyall]

Now that Polk is a tweeting fool.....

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Hey I was wrong on Schlossnagle I'll own it. MSU is getting a great coach though.

[Randolph Dupree]

Maybe, just maybe Schloss was never the #2 choice. Maybe it was McDonnell all along and Schloss was informed that he wasn't the guy so he "pulled his name".

Things that make you go hmmm?

Btw UL is down two in the top of the 9th as I type, and in full disclosure I know nothing.

[msstate7]

The worst part of this is I believe Cohen thought he had schloss. No way you go on record saying our new coach has multiple CWS without thinking it's done. I think Cohen might be in scramble mode now. Don't be surprised when Henderson gets another year

[Cooterpoot]

It leaked out a couple weeks ago that McDonnell was the guy and there was an agreement. Then, the Schloss smoke started. There was a hint today that it was McDonnell.

[ScoobaDawg]

Another point was just made... McDonnells season ended today. Wouldn't be the first time a coach put's out they are withdrawing from consideration when another coach has been selected for the job but not announced yet.

I feel like (no known info) we have a coach by tuesday.

[ShotgunDawg]

If we end up with McDonnell instead, that's a win. He's the superior coach.

And that's not sour grapes. I wanted to hire McDonnell when we hired Cohen, and when we hired Cannizaro.

I think they are equal, but, at the end of the day, it's possible that Cohen liked McDonnell's background at Ole Miss better than Schloss' background in recruiting the Southeast

[bostondawg]

Way, way too many barrel chested know it alls on this board saying it was a done deal.

[Cooterpoot]

Schloss was the smoke screen.

[BuckyIsAB****]

The worst part of this is I believe Cohen thought he had schloss. No way you go on record saying our new coach has multiple CWS without thinking it's done. I think Cohen might be in scramble mode now. Don't be surprised when Henderson gets another year

We will hire Butch or Mingione before its given to Henderson.

It wouldnt surprise me at all if it still was Schloss or McDonnell

[MarketingBully]

No. It just wasn't quite the done deal that some believed it to be.

I think there was a smokescreen on Schloss to keep it away from the intended target McDonnell. Kendall released this info right as McDonnell?s season ended. I think we get McDonnell who is who Cohen wanted. I think there was an intention for this Athletic Department to deceive so that McDonnell could finish his season. I think Schloss realized he finished second and announced it through Kendall.

[preachermatt83]

I tried to tell you!!!.....LOL!....including me. I felt it was Schloss because all of you were certain about it.....but my #1 choice was Corbin. He has the best resume. However, that being said.....I don't see him leaving Nashville, kind of like I felt Schloss would have it tough leaving Ft. Worth. Both nice metro places to live and retire. Sounds like Mama may have gotten cold feet after researching Starkvegas and things to do....where to shop. That type stuff. It wasn't the job....I think a young unmarried Schloss would have jumped at it.

I don't want Corbin. I'd much rather have 15 other coaches.

[hopsondawg22]

Way, way too many barrel chested know it alls on this board saying it was a done deal.
^^^^^ This.

[Lord McBuckethead]

A very M-State moment. Of course this breaks mid game.

Surprised Coach34 didn't come back on to spill the beans.

[preachermatt83]

Just a theory, but I wonder if Cohen chose McDonnell & told Schloss tonight so that he could save some face by removing himself from the search.

It's got to be McDonnell or it's a botched search

Shotgun... with your profession you should know more than most of us.. what are you hearing??

[Dallas_Dawg]

Maybe Schloss got caught with a side piece or sexting.

[Pit Bull]

While he'll never leave Nashville, Corbin actually has the best resume out there of the ones we're discussing....but no point talking about it.....no way Corbin comes to Vegas. He's got it made in Music City.

[Pit Bull]

Shotgun... with your profession you should know more than most of us.. what are you hearing??

Ambulance chaser?.....they do hear a lot!

[ShotgunDawg]

Shotgun... with your profession you should know more than most of us.. what are you hearing??

I heard that Schloss wasn't a done deal because he had never visited MSU & wanted to visit before making any decision.

What I don't know is if that visit was happening tomorrow or happened today.

I don't why Schloss pulled his name from the job. If McDonnell is introduced soon, we'll know why

[ShotgunDawg]

Ambulance chaser?.....they do hear a lot!

I work in college athletics at an out of state school

[msstate7]

While he'll never leave Nashville, Corbin actually has the best resume out there of the ones we're discussing....but no point talking about it.....no way Corbin comes to Vegas. He's got it made in Music City.

At the beginning, I said pulling a coach from ft worth, Nashville, or Louisville to Starkville would be next to impossible. I did get caught up in the hype and believed schloss, but now I'm back to common sense. I say no way on either of those 3

[bigplayslay]

Hahahahahahahahaha gotta love fans with sources

[Randolph Dupree]

Maybe, just maybe Schloss was never the #2 choice. Maybe it was McDonnell all along and Schloss was informed that he wasn't the guy so he "pulled his name".

Things that make you go hmmm?

Btw UL is down two in the top of the 9th as I type, and in full disclosure I know nothing.

[preachermatt83]

I heard that Schloss wasn't a done deal because he had never visited MSU & wanted to visit before making any decision.

What I don't know is if that visit was happening tomorrow or happened today.

I don't why Schloss pulled his name from the job. If McDonnell is introduced soon, we'll know why

I was under the impression that the visit was to be Tmr but who knows what's reliable now. Appreciate any info you share

[drummerdawg]

Hope we're not about to go all Tennessee with this hire.

[MagicDawg]

One would expect Gene will have a comment or two about this.

[BuckyIsAB****]

At the beginning, I said pulling a coach from ft worth, Nashville, or Louisville to Starkville would be next to impossible. I did get caught up in the hype and believed schloss, but now I'm back to common sense. I say no way on either of those 3

Pretty strong signs that its McDonnell with them losing, us winning (not sure how much it has to do with it but still) and Schloss ''pulling out'' all in one day.

Cohen will make a good hire Im not worried

[ShotgunDawg]

Schlossnagle was our Jeremy Pruitt.

I'm seeing a trend with Cohen's coaching searches

[Todd4State]

Maybe, just maybe Schloss was never the #2 choice. Maybe it was McDonnell all along and Schloss was informed that he wasn't the guy so he "pulled his name".

Things that make you go hmmm?

Btw UL is down two in the top of the 9th as I type, and in full disclosure I know nothing.

My two cents is I think it will be McDonnell most likely. I think there is a chance it could be Tadlock also.

[bigplayslay]

My two cents is I think it will be McDonnell most likely. I think there is a chance it could be Tadlock also.

Whoever it is, he will be inheriting a lot of talent. Yall seen these guys this weekend?

[mparkerfd20]

I wanted Schloss over McDonnell, Tadlock or Corbin so I'm ****ing pissed.

[Bothrops]

We get to the Super and keep Henderson.***

[confucius say]

My two cents is I think it will be McDonnell most likely. I think there is a chance it could be Tadlock also.

Same. Guys "pull their names from consideration" as a way of saving face when they aren't chosen. No inside info, but logic tells me this means we hand our guy. And his season ended tonight in Lubbock

[preachermatt83]

My two cents is I think it will be McDonnell most likely. I think there is a chance it could be TADLOCK also.

If it is I get to become automatic moderator and I'm giving everybody on here all kinds of crap. hahahaha!!

[Bulldog1]

I, without any info, believe it's McDonnell.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Most MState thing ever on a night we are wearing Oklahomas ass out in a regional final for us to be bitching about this.

We are playing tomo for a chance to go to 3 straight supers in a row. Sack up and trust in Cohen. If its McDonnell its a grand slam hire.

[mstatefan91]

If it is I get to become automatic moderator and I'm giving everybody on here all kinds of crap. hahahaha!!
You already give everybody all kinds of crap

[Bulldog1]

Schlossnagle was our Jeremy Pruitt.

I'm seeing a trend with Cohen's coaching searches

Exactly. Was just about to post this exact thing!

[Goldendawg]

His name was too hard to spell and pronounce.** Cohen (easy to spell) will make the right choice. Hail State!

[shoeless joe]

I heard Cohen found out shloss was Facebook friends with the begley heifer and pulled the plug

As soon as auburn loses to fla in the supers we'll name our guy

[Red Sox Dawg]

Schlossnagle was our Jeremy Pruitt.

I'm seeing a trend with Cohen's coaching searches

He learned from the Ninja.

[msstate7]

I heard Cohen found out shloss was Facebook friends with the begley heifer and pulled the plug

As soon as auburn loses to fla in the supers we'll name our guy
Butch? Like 100,000 times more likely than McDonnell imo

[preachermatt83]

You already give everybody all kinds of crap

Hahaha!!

[CadaverDawg]

Butch? Like 100,000 times more likely than McDonnell imo

Hope not

[ScottH]

Just a theory, but I wonder if Cohen chose McDonnell & told Schloss tonight so that he could save some face by removing himself from the search.

I think you are spot on.

[MarketingBully]

FYI. Schloss was in Starkville this weekend so I think it was more then a smokescreen.

https://twitter.com/stevensonfwst/status/1003476788289396737?s=21

[msstate7]

FYI. Schloss was in Starkville to sign the deal.

https://twitter.com/stevensonfwst/status/1003476788289396737?s=21

Telling you... Cohen thought he had him. McDonnell isn't happening. Come on down, Henderson, butch, or someone without multiple CWS

[Dallas_Dawg]

More may come out but I hear Schloss had a lot in common with Freeze and Cannizzaro

[Cooterpoot]

I doubt that story for several reasons.

[BeardoMSU]

Please just tell me we aren't going to make the "Matt Luke hire" and put the interim-tag off Hendo....someone please tell me that.....shit, lie to me....just tell me.

[MarketingBully]

Telling you... Cohen thought he had him. McDonnell isn't happening. Come on down, Henderson, butch, or someone without multiple CWS

Yeah this shit should have been done and over with last week. Letting it linger on like this was dumb as shit. He should of gone to Fort Worth and brought him back to Starkville last week instead of the SEC meetings and got the done by Tuesday or Wednesday.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

More may come out but I hear Schloss had a lot in common with Freeze and Cannizzaro

Ah yes of course... he's the #1 grand slam hire of a choice until he removes his name... then he's a scumbag and we are being smart to avoid him.

[Bulldog1]

Please just tell me we aren't going to make the "Matt Luke hire" and put the interim-tag off Hendo....someone please tell me that.....shit, lie to me....just tell me.

It better not happen.

[deadheaddawg]

If Cohen doesn't hire someone with at least 2 CWS appearances...as a head coach.... then this search was a disaster.

We may get lucky and get a great coach. But Cohen put the fan expectation into overdrive and if he doesn't come through with a big, big time hire, he also set the program up to look foolish.

[shoeless joe]

Please just tell me we aren't going to make the "Matt Luke hire" and put the interim-tag off Hendo....someone please tell me that.....shit, lie to me....just tell me.

We'll piss the aubie's off before we do that. And I'd be fine if we did. Few others higher on the list but butch ain't too far below many

[Todd4State]

If Cohen doesn't hire someone with at least 2 CWS appearances then this search was a disaster.

We may get lucky and get a great coach. But Cohen put the fan expectation into overdrive and if he doesn't come through with a big, big time hire, he also set the program up to look foolish.

Cohen is going to take a lot of heat if he doesn't deliver.

But let's see how it plays out first.

[msstate7]

Please just tell me we aren't going to make the "Matt Luke hire" and put the interim-tag off Hendo....someone please tell me that.....shit, lie to me....just tell me.

Remember them gonna hire Jon Gruden, Tony dungy, or some other big shot to only end up with Luke? We might have more in common with them than we care to admit

[deadheaddawg]

Cohen is going to take a lot of heat if he doesn't deliver.

But let's see how it plays out first.

Yeah. My energy is still focused mostly on the games being played.

[preachermatt83]

Telling you... Cohen thought he had him. McDonnell isn't happening. Come on down, Henderson, butch, or someone without multiple CWS

If Cohen doesn't get someone with cws experience(atleast as an assistant) then he's gonna catch more crap than he's ever imagined.

[Gutter Cobreh]

I heard that Schloss wasn't a done deal because he had never visited MSU & wanted to visit before making any decision.

What I don't know is if that visit was happening tomorrow or happened today.

I don't why Schloss pulled his name from the job. If McDonnell is introduced soon, we'll know why

Sources say he visited this weekend. That blows the whole "smokescreen" theory out of the water, and only points to the fact that Schloss was the guy all along - until he changed his mind....

[Cooterpoot]

Ron Polk warned y’all about Cohen*******

[preachermatt83]

Sources say he visited this weekend. That blows the whole "smokescreen" theory out of the water, and only points to the fact that Schloss was the guy all along - until he changed his mind....

Yup

[deadheaddawg]

If Cohen doesn't get someone with cws experience(atleast as an assistant) then he's gonna catch more crap than he's ever imagined.

I think he will if it ain't head coaching experience. He should have know how that was going to be taken when he said it publicity.

And he's not dumb so I think he knew. And having CWS experience as an assistant is great, but it's not something you use publicity when talking up the coaching search

[Dawg61]

Dammit, there goes all my V-cash

Lol I put 20k on Schloss

[TUSK]

WTF are y'all doin'? (in less than 30 words)

Serious question.

[Goldendawg]

If Cohen doesn't get someone with cws experience(atleast as an assistant) then he's gonna catch more crap than he's ever imagined.

He built this up far too much for an "assistant" with cws experience to meet our expectations.

[Dawg61]

Schloss was the smoke screen.

This actually makes a lot of sense. Schloss probably gets a raise and some facility improvements and it keeps the real hire news from leaking. Schloss pulls his name when McDonnell's season ends. This was a group effort where everyone wins. Except L'Ville. They stay our bitch.

[WesternSkyDawg]

Remember them gonna hire Jon Gruden, Tony dungy, or some other big shot to only end up with Luke? We might have more in common with them than we care to admit

I?m still torn as to whether you are (a) the most patient, persistent, subtle Rebshark worry troll on record, or (b) the worst example of the pansy-assed, pee-my-pants-and-I?ll-feel-better MSU fan that drags the rest of the fan base down.

We just challenged a quarter-century old call for best moment in Diamond Dawg history, and you?re hyping up the ?worry? best you can. Take it somewhere else, Puddin.

[BeardoMSU]

WTF are y'all doin'? (in less than 30 words)

Serious question.

https://m.popkey.co/5c73d8/JaQgv.gif

[Bothrops]

You can believe Cohen is doing all he can.

[msstate7]

I?m still torn as to whether you are (a) the most patient, persistent, subtle Rebshark worry troll on record, or (b) the worst example of the pansy-assed, pee-my-pants-and-I?ll-feel-better MSU fan that drags the rest of the fan base down.

We just challenged a quarter-century old call for best moment in Diamond Dawg history, and you?re hyping up the ?worry? best you can. Take it somewhere else, Puddin.

Or realistic. We just got told no. This isn't us playing schloss for McDonnell. We already made ourselves look bad... it's time to realize we aren't pulling one of those big 3 established head coaches from a nice city to Starkville. The visit here was the deal breaker with schloss

[Dawg61]

Sources say he visited this weekend. That blows the whole "smokescreen" theory out of the water, and only points to the fact that Schloss was the guy all along - until he changed his mind....

I don't think it blows the smoke screen theory out the water at all. If you're willing to go to the point of being a smoke screen for 3 weeks you're willing to fly to Starkville for a day and get treated like a king. Makes the smoke screen not so obvious. Worked on you. Just saying. I'd fly 5 hours away for a day for a 200k raise. Wouldn't you?

[LC Dawg]

I'm just gonna enjoy playing for a regional championship and trust in Cohen until he proves untrustworthy.

[Gutter Cobreh]

I don't think it blows the smoke screen theory out the water at all. If you're willing to go to the point of being a smoke screen for 3 weeks you're willing to fly to Starkville for a day and get treated like a king. Makes the smoke screen not so obvious. Worked on you. Just saying. I'd fly 5 hours away for a day for a 200k raise. Wouldn't you?

Not sure about this situation, but I have been offered a job outside of where I lived at the time. The job looked great on paper, the salary was higher, but the city where I'd have to move to sucked...I suspect this is the case for Schloss. Job and salary all checked the boxes, but the location didn't live up to the hype for either him or his family.

I'm not trashing Starkville, but if we're being honest - all signs pointed to him coming until he visited. A football coach may pull this, but a baseball coach who is already one of the highest paid in the country doesn't pull a stunt like this - nor does Cohen even entertain running a search this way....

[BuckyIsAB****]

Or realistic. We just got told no. This isn't us playing schloss for McDonnell. We already made ourselves look bad... it's time to realize we aren't pulling one of those big 3 established head coaches from a nice city to Starkville. The visit here was the deal breaker with schloss

Poor little ol us. We dont deserve no better than living with the shoes.

If he visited here, one of the best stadiums and fanbases in the country, in the best conference, with the young kids we have and said no then its his loss not ours.

[msstate7]

Not sure about this situation, but I have been offered a job outside of where I lived at the time. The job looked great on paper, the salary was higher, but the city where I'd have to move to sucked...I suspect this is the case for Schloss. Job and salary all checked the boxes, but the location didn't live up to the hype for either him or his family.

I'm not trashing Starkville, but if we're being honest - all signs pointed to him coming until he visited. A football coach may pull this, but a baseball coach who is already one of the highest paid in the country doesn't pull a stunt like this - nor does Cohen even entertain running a search this way....

Why this is so hard for most here to realize is beyond me. The big 3 are already at established programs that are better than ours already, and the cities where their schools are are better too. We almost pulled it off, but almost doesn't count

[Gutter Cobreh]

Poor little ol us. We dont deserve no better than living with the shoes.

If he visited here, one of the best stadiums and fanbases in the country, in the best conference, with the young kids we have and said no then its his loss not ours.

I don't think that is what he's saying. Take off your maroon colored glasses and imagine visiting Starkville when school is out and no students around. If you're used to an urban environment, there will be some culture shock. While it has grown, the town is still heavily dependent on the school.

[Gutter Cobreh]

Why this is so hard for most here to realize is beyond me. The big 3 are already at established programs that are better than ours already, and the cities where their schools are are better too. We almost pulled it off, but almost doesn't count

You make it hard to defend you sometimes...why you replied to my post with this comment does not make any sense.

[msstate7]

You make it hard to defend you sometimes...why you replied to my post with this comment does not make any sense.

I was agreeing with you.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I don't think that is what he's saying. Take off your maroon colored glasses and imagine visiting Starkville when school is out and no students around. If you're used to an urban environment, there will be some culture shock. While it has grown, the town is still heavily dependent on the school.

I get what you are saying but its not the end of the world. It very well could be McDonnell or Tadlock. Or Corbin.

As long as we dont end up with Henderson I wont jump off any bridges

[drummerdawg]

Poor little ol us. We dont deserve no better than living with the shoes.

If he visited here, one of the best stadiums and fanbases in the country, in the best conference, with the young kids we have and said no then its his loss not ours.

You don't get it. Coaches do have a life outside of the stadium and campus, and they have families to think about. I love Mississippi State but Starkville needs a lot of work. Nothing wrong with being a realist here.

[msstate7]

I get what you are saying but its not the end of the world. It very well could be McDonnell or Tadlock. Or Corbin.

As long as we dont end up with Henderson I wont jump off any bridges

I think shoeless has a good pick in butch

[Bothrops]

Poor little ol us. We dont deserve no better than living with the shoes.

If he visited here, one of the best stadiums and fanbases in the country, in the best conference, with the young kids we have and said no then its his loss not ours.

His family may have objected to the idea of setting up shop in Starkville. It's not so hard to understand when you figure they've probably never lived outside a major metropolis.

[Activated Alpha]

I firmly believe we won't get anyone that's been named dropped.

[msstate7]

I firmly believe we won't get anyone that's been named dropped.

It's Henderson then**

[BuckyIsAB****]

You don't get it. Coaches do have a life outside of the stadium and campus, and they have families to think about. I love Mississippi State but Starkville needs a lot of work. Nothing wrong with being a realist here.

Im just gonna break this news to you, and maybe its different for baseball and Im 99 percent sure its different for HC's compared to assistants but if you are coaching at a major D1 school, this job is your life. Very few if any days off.


You are coaching in season, recruiting every day basically, and in the summer you are running camps.

I still say its Schloss's loss if he got cold feet. We are pretty stacked with young talent and our commitment from the fanbase and stadium is top notch

[BuckyIsAB****]

I think shoeless has a good pick in butch

I wouldnt jump off a bridge, and he would probably do a good job but I'd be disappointed.

Its time for us to shit or get off the pot in baseball.

[Dallas_Dawg]

Ah yes of course... he's the #1 grand slam hire of a choice until he removes his name... then he's a scumbag and we are being smart to avoid him.
Believe what you want, asshole, but I know what I was told on Saturday about Schloss from a TCU alum.

[msstate7]

I wouldnt jump off a bridge, and he would probably do a good job but I'd be disappointed.

Its time for us to shit or get off the pot in baseball.

Since Cohen made those comments, we will all be disappointed if it isn't schloss, corbin, McDonnell, or Joe Maddon. If schloss really was the guy all along, I bet Cohen is saying something I've said for years... me and my big mouth haha

[Todd4State]

Since Cohen made those comments, we will all be disappointed if it isn't schloss, corbin, McDonnell, or Joe Maddon. If schloss really was the guy all along, I bet Cohen is saying something I've said for years... me and my big mouth haha

Or Tadlock.


People keep forgetting about him for some reason.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Since Cohen made those comments, we will all be disappointed if it isn't schloss, corbin, McDonnell, or Joe Maddon. If schloss really was the guy all along, I bet Cohen is saying something I've said for years... me and my big mouth haha

The only person who knows that is Cohen and Schloss. I will say this, if he was talking to our recruits and telling them he was the HC, thats very illegall and I promise you Bracky Brett will be all over that.


Kendall Rogers was saying for about a week maybe more that it wasnt a done deal for either side. Im just saying its not the end of the world either way, Cohen has done a great job so far and even if he is in scramble mode now he will scramble out and throw that bitch deep for 6.


I personally believe its Dan McDonnell but I've been wrong before. I thought it was gonna be Schloss so TIFWIW

[BuckyIsAB****]

Or Tadlock.


People keep forgetting about him for some reason.

If we are worried about guys not liking Starkville then Tadlock should jump to #1 bc Stark is better than Lubbock TX.

I've never been there though haha

[Bothrops]

You don't get it. Coaches do have a life outside of the stadium and campus, and they have families to think about. I love Mississippi State but Starkville needs a lot of work. Nothing wrong with being a realist here.

Starkville will never see radical changes. It will always be a rural, one horse town as far as services and options (outside of food & drink) are concerned.

[deadheaddawg]

Im just gonna break this news to you, and maybe its different for baseball and Im 99 percent sure its different for HC's compared to assistants but if you are coaching at a major D1 school, this job is your life. Very few if any days off.


You are coaching in season, recruiting every day basically, and in the summer you are running camps.

I still say its Schloss's loss if he got cold feet. We are pretty stacked with young talent and our commitment from the fanbase and stadium is top notch

You are 100% right. The coach's life is 100% baseball.

But he has a family. I doubt the spouse of a $1.5 million a year coach is working. So she has nothing but free time. I believe his kids were in high school .

Some people do put their families before their jobs.

[ShotgunDawg]

More may come out but I hear Schloss had a lot in common with Freeze and Cannizzaro

Nah. He's disciplined and militaristic

[preachermatt83]

Or Tadlock.


People keep forgetting about him for some reason.

Yup

[Todd4State]

If we are worried about guys not liking Starkville then Tadlock should jump to #1 bc Stark is better than Lubbock TX.

I've never been there though haha

McDonnell was at Oxford for a few years too. Corbin was at Clemson.

[Todd4State]

You are 100% right. The coach's life is 100% baseball.

But he has a family. I doubt the spouse of a $1.5 million a year coach is working. So she has nothing but free time. I believe his kids were in high school .

Some people do put their families before their jobs.

Yeah but the thing about that is this:

If you told your wife you were going to take a job in some rural town for about 15 years at 1.8 million+ a year but after that you were going to retire in whatever city I would imagine that most wives would be OK with that. If my spouse told me that I would be OK with that.

[Activated Alpha]

So how are everyone's sources going? Everyone in scramble mode?

[Dawg61]

Why this is so hard for most here to realize is beyond me. The big 3 are already at established programs that are better than ours already, and the cities where their schools are are better too. We almost pulled it off, but almost doesn't count


I don't think that is what he's saying. Take off your maroon colored glasses and imagine visiting Starkville when school is out and no students around. If you're used to an urban environment, there will be some culture shock. While it has grown, the town is still heavily dependent on the school.


You don't get it. Coaches do have a life outside of the stadium and campus, and they have families to think about. I love Mississippi State but Starkville needs a lot of work. Nothing wrong with being a realist here.


Im just gonna break this news to you, and maybe its different for baseball and Im 99 percent sure its different for HC's compared to assistants but if you are coaching at a major D1 school, this job is your life. Very few if any days off.


You are coaching in season, recruiting every day basically, and in the summer you are running camps.

I still say its Schloss's loss if he got cold feet. We are pretty stacked with young talent and our commitment from the fanbase and stadium is top notch

I think some of y'all have been listening to Ole Miss and other fanbases too much (not you Bucky) about Starkville. Most serious professionals aren't looking at all the attractions in a city. They are looking at the job and that's pretty much it. Your home is your sanctuary not the town/city you live in. A top 5 college baseball coach wants to enjoy his family and being home for the few hours he might get in a day that isn't working. He doesn't want to hit up the happening metro scene. Does Starkville prevent him from having a great home to come back to every day? No. Exact opposite actually. He can drive from Dudy to his house in less than ten minutes most days depending where he buys one. He can have some steaks on the grill, turn on the tv and grab a cold beer while listening to his wife and kids day in less than 20. Try doing that in Dallas. Happiness is up to the individual and isn't reliant on the city he resides in.

Edited to add: the last type of coach we should be trying to get is one worried about being the man of the city. That was Cann's problem. He was still a college kid given a much bigger job than his maturity was ready for. He wanted to wear beanies while shooting hoops with Blair Schaffer and take selfies at the gym at 4 am. That's the type of guy tapped into the bar scene and what all the college kids think are cool. That's someone who'd be swayed by a big city lifestyle. Not a professional college baseball coach like Schloss.

[MarketingBully]

The thing about this is everyone at TCU thought he was gone too. Looks like he left us at the alter. I don’t think this was a smokescreen at all because TCU and MSU sources were telling TCU and MSU insider people this was done. I’m not sure what to think here but I don’t think people were necessarily wrong. The only thing I can think of is if Schlossnagle was indeed in Starkville and Cohen was in Tallahassee that would send a bad message unless another coach was number 1 in Cohen’s thinking and we played Schloss. Who the hell knows but public perception is that we wanted Schlossnagle and he turned us down. If Cohen doesn’t have McDonnell on the phone making an offer he can’t refuse, this search could turn sideways real quick. We shall see but this was a total shock to TCU Admin who thought Schloss was gone. That’s a fact.

[MarketingBully]

So how are everyone's sources going? Everyone in scramble mode?

TCU admin were ready to hire Saarloos. This seemed to be a shock to them to.

[Dawg61]

The thing about this is everyone at TCU thought he was gone too. Looks like he left us at the alter. I don’t think this was a smokescreen at all because TCU and MSU sources were telling TCU and MSU insider people this was done. I’m not sure what to think here but I don’t think people were necessarily wrong. The only thing I can think of is if Schlossnagle was indeed in Starkville and Cohen was in Tallahassee that would send a bad message unless another coach was number 1 in Cohen’s thinking and we played Schloss. Who the hell knows but public perception is that we wanted Schlossnagle and he turned us down. If Cohen doesn’t have McDonnell on the phone making an offer he can’t refuse, this search could turn sideways real quick. We shall see but this was a total shock to TCU Admin who thought Schloss was gone. That’s a fact.

I think we'll know our answer next week. if it's McDonnell then Schloss was 2nd choice imo and Cohen gave him the heads up tonight. Perhaps Cohen had the choice of both and decided tonight. I think y'all think Schloss is the one turning us down and it's actually the other way around and Cohen is classy enough to let Schloss look better here.

[Bothrops]

It had to be a family deal. They go to Starkville to look around..dad says he can live with it, mom adds hell to the no, kids say **** this, I'm officially depressed...a discussion ensues with dad losing the argument.

[MarketingBully]

I think we'll know our answer next week. if it's McDonnell then Schloss was 2nd choice imo and Cohen gave him the heads up tonight. Perhaps Cohen had the choice of both and decided tonight. I think y'all think Schloss is the one turning us down and it's actually the other way around and Cohen is classy enough to let Schloss look better here.

I honestly hope you are right because I wanted McDonnell the whole time.

[deadheaddawg]

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Yeah but the thing about that is this:

If you told your wife you were going to take a job in some rural town for about 15 years at 1.8 million+ a year but after that you were going to retire in whatever city I would imagine that most wives would be OK with that. If my spouse told me that I would be OK with that.

The thing about that is. He already makes $1.4 million. And I wouldn't be shocked if he gets a raise from TCU

So yes $1.8 would be a nice raise, it's hardly a lifestyle changing amount. People turn down raises all the time to stay put

[TUSK]

https://m.popkey.co/5c73d8/JaQgv.gif

Outside of half the Bammers on this board (no offense, Token), I've profiled you as prolly the smartest cat goin'...

Carry on.

[shoeless joe]

Outside of half the Bammers on this board (no offense, Token), I've profiled you as prolly the smartest cat goin'...

Carry on.

Too bad he's highly against profiling...

[Todd4State]

The thing about this is everyone at TCU thought he was gone too. Looks like he left us at the alter. I don’t think this was a smokescreen at all because TCU and MSU sources were telling TCU and MSU insider people this was done. I’m not sure what to think here but I don’t think people were necessarily wrong. The only thing I can think of is if Schlossnagle was indeed in Starkville and Cohen was in Tallahassee that would send a bad message unless another coach was number 1 in Cohen’s thinking and we played Schloss. Who the hell knows but public perception is that we wanted Schlossnagle and he turned us down. If Cohen doesn’t have McDonnell on the phone making an offer he can’t refuse, this search could turn sideways real quick. We shall see but this was a total shock to TCU Admin who thought Schloss was gone. That’s a fact.

I think it's pretty unreasonable for a coaching candidate to be upset at the AD for being where the baseball team is in the postseason. Especially since we won't be playing Tuesday-Weds. no matter what happens in our next game.

[TUSK]

Too bad he's highly against profiling...


https://youtu.be/AJXKVOxqkWM

[The Federalist Engineer]

So how are everyone's sources going? Everyone in scramble mode?

"Cohen is in Ft Worth" is the new all time great "Gene says" moment- this surpasses the Doug Buckles fiasco

[Dallas_Dawg]

Nah. He's disciplined and militaristic

Even military guys have their other head that does some of the thinking. Just going off what I was told by a TCU alum about Schloss.
I thought it was just a line of BS for them to save face for losing their coach to us but apparently it has legs.

[Irondawg]

Maybe we are hiring Saarloos**

[LC Dawg]

I'm all for trying to keep the wife and kids happy but if a guy doesn't take what he feels is a better job because his wife and kids say there are not enough places for them to spend the millions he makes then he needs his balls reattached.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

If Cohen doesn't hire someone with at least 2 CWS appearances...as a head coach.... then this search was a disaster.

We may get lucky and get a great coach. But Cohen put the fan expectation into overdrive and if he doesn't come through with a big, big time hire, he also set the program up to look foolish.

The bad part is that before he said what he said, I actually feel like we had really rational and realistic expectations as a fanbase. Now we've set ourselves up to look like Tennessee fans

[Todd4State]

The bad part is that before he said what he said, I actually feel like we had really rational and realistic expectations as a fanbase. Now we've set ourselves up to look like Tennessee fans

There's a big difference between fans saying that they are going to get a big name coach and the AD of the school publically telling people we are going to get a big name coach through the media.

Although that said I've never understood why a lot of our fans cared about how we look to other fan bases.

[Todd4State]

And to add it's also different when you had someone neutral and respected like Kendall Rogers saying that Schlossnagle is a major candidate and Yancy saying that Gruden is a candidate.

[Gutter Cobreh]

I think some of y'all have been listening to Ole Miss and other fanbases too much (not you Bucky) about Starkville. Most serious professionals aren't looking at all the attractions in a city. They are looking at the job and that's pretty much it. Your home is your sanctuary not the town/city you live in. A top 5 college baseball coach wants to enjoy his family and being home for the few hours he might get in a day that isn't working. He doesn't want to hit up the happening metro scene. Does Starkville prevent him from having a great home to come back to every day? No. Exact opposite actually. He can drive from Dudy to his house in less than ten minutes most days depending where he buys one. He can have some steaks on the grill, turn on the tv and grab a cold beer while listening to his wife and kids day in less than 20. Try doing that in Dallas. Happiness is up to the individual and isn't reliant on the city he resides in.

Edited to add: the last type of coach we should be trying to get is one worried about being the man of the city. That was Cann's problem. He was still a college kid given a much bigger job than his maturity was ready for. He wanted to wear beanies while shooting hoops with Blair Schaffer and take selfies at the gym at 4 am. That's the type of guy tapped into the bar scene and what all the college kids think are cool. That's someone who'd be swayed by a big city lifestyle. Not a professional college baseball coach like Schloss.

You're not married are you?


I think we'll know our answer next week. if it's McDonnell then Schloss was 2nd choice imo and Cohen gave him the heads up tonight. Perhaps Cohen had the choice of both and decided tonight. I think y'all think Schloss is the one turning us down and it's actually the other way around and Cohen is classy enough to let Schloss look better here.

You're defense of Cohen rivals that of Preach and C34. Cohen swung and missed with this one. Not necessarily his fault, because anyone in a position to hire knows that from time to time you'll have someone that won't make the jump regardless of how lucrative you make the job. It is what it is.

[Liverpooldawg]

Nobody knows for sure WHAT happened, if anything. All of this was pure rumor and speculation, and still is.

[Jarius]

Nobody knows for sure WHAT happened, if anything. All of this was pure rumor and speculation, and still is.

Exactly. Everyone is assuming that the people who said this was a done deal when it clearly was not have good sources on why it was not a done deal. People on 247 and Kendall Rogers, both who have excellent sources, had people saying this was not a done deal at any point. We will find it soon enough.

[Randolph Dupree]

Look guys I don't know who to believe right now, and unfortunately I don't have Cohen's number in my phone so I can't just call him up, but in addition to Cohen's qualifying factors hasn't he said publicly that the new coach would be named very soon after that coach's season was over? Maybe that coach's season ended last night and maybe that coach's season is still going. My guess is that the thing with Schloss is similar to the Pruitt situation and it smells heavily of, what I'd call, agent tampering. I think we'll know (potentially) later this afternoon or tomorrow. If we don't hear by tomorrow, it's probably not McDonnell and Cohen is scrambling. There's still a chance that Corbin could be the guy but it would shock me if that's how it ends up (FWIW I think Corbin has always be the top choice).

[Johnson85]

Yeah but the thing about that is this:

If you told your wife you were going to take a job in some rural town for about 15 years at 1.8 million+ a year but after that you were going to retire in whatever city I would imagine that most wives would be OK with that. If my spouse told me that I would be OK with that.

You are ignoring the fact that he is already pulling down $1.5M in Dallas-Fortworth. It's certainly more expensive there, but you still should be able to retire in whatever city you want after 15 years of pulling down $1.5M.

Obviously nobody here knows what happened, but it seems perfectly reasonable that when his family visited, they pushed back hard enough for him to reconsider. They probably aren't fired up about moving to begin with, and moving from a major metropolitan area to a small college town is a big change. Doesn't really say much about Starkville. They probably would have thought any SEC city other than maybe Nashville was a serious downgrade just because of size.

[Doggie_Style]

Maybe we are hiring Saarloos**


......may actually not be a bad idea at this point.

[LC Dawg]

Look guys I don't know who to believe right now, and unfortunately I don't have Cohen's number in my phone so I can't just call him up, but in addition to Cohen's qualifying factors hasn't he said publicly that the new coach would be named very soon after that coach's season was over? Maybe that coach's season ended last night and maybe that coach's season is still going. My guess is that the thing with Schloss is similar to the Pruitt situation and it smells heavily of, what I'd call, agent tampering. I think we'll know (potentially) later this afternoon or tomorrow. If we don't hear by tomorrow, it's probably not McDonnell and Cohen is scrambling. There's still a chance that Corbin could be the guy but it would shock me if that's how it ends up (FWIW I think Corbin has always be the top choice).

The interesting thing with Corbin is that Vandy could be playing us this weekend in a super regional. It will get very interesting if we win today and nothing is announced this week.
If we do play Vandy someone in our athletic department should leak that Corbin is our top candidate and will be hired at the end of Vandy's season just to create a distraction for them.

[deadheaddawg]

Nobody knows for sure WHAT happened, if anything. All of this was pure rumor and speculation, and still is.

It's not ALL pure rumor. Cohen said hall of fame coaches are interested and we are going to pay top dollar for a coach with a ton of experience and multiple CWS trips.

By Cohen's own statement the potential coaching list is narrowed down to just a handful of candidates.

[ScottH]

It's not ALL pure rumor. Cohen said hall of fame coaches are interested and we are going to pay top dollar for a coach with a ton of experience and multiple CWS trips.

By Cohen's own statement the potential coaching list is narrowed down to just a handful of candidates.

This in spades.

[AlSwearengen]

And to add it's also different when you had someone neutral and respected like Kendall Rogers saying that Schlossnagle is a major candidate and Yancy saying that Gruden is a candidate.

exactly

[mparkerfd20]

I think that it has been Corbin all along. Not who I wanted, but I could live with it.

[Dawg61]

The interesting thing with Corbin is that Vandy could be playing us this weekend in a super regional. It will get very interesting if we win today and nothing is announced this week.
If we do play Vandy someone in our athletic department should leak that Corbin is our top candidate and will be hired at the end of Vandy's season just to create a distraction for them.

If we win today next weekend is going to be a war.

[preachermatt83]

The bad part is that before he said what he said, I actually feel like we had really rational and realistic expectations as a fanbase. Now we've set ourselves up to look like Tennessee fans

Exactly. I would have been thrilled with Godwin or lee had cohen not raised expectations to the point that he did.

[preachermatt83]

It's not ALL pure rumor. Cohen said hall of fame coaches are interested and we are going to pay top dollar for a coach with a ton of experience and multiple CWS trips.

By Cohen's own statement the potential coaching list is narrowed down to just a handful of candidates.

Exactly

[preachermatt83]

I think that it has been Corbin all along. Not who I wanted, but I could live with it.

I don't want corbin. He only wins bc of their schools situation

[Dawg61]

You're defense of Cohen rivals that of Preach and C34. Cohen swung and missed with this one. Not necessarily his fault, because anyone in a position to hire knows that from time to time you'll have someone that won't make the jump regardless of how lucrative you make the job. It is what it is.

Cohen is batting a thousand so far as an AD. He's sitting on the lead at the Masters after dominating the last year on tour. I put my chips on him till I see the cards turned over. Whatever analogy you want to use for betting on the favorite applies to me backing Cohen in this search. He's the man when it comes to this. Cohen does coaching searches for breakfast.

[Dawg61]

I don't want corbin. He only wins bc of their schools situation

This is an absurd statement. Vanderbilt sucked at baseball before Corbin showed up.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Cohen is batting a thousand so far as an AD. He's sitting on the lead at the Masters after dominating the last year on tour. I put my chips on him till I see the cards turned over. Whatever analogy you want to use for betting on the favorite applies to me backing Cohen in this search. He's the man when it comes to this. Cohen does coaching searches for breakfast.

I have a lot of faith in Cohen but the second I heard him say something like "You'd be amazed at the number of big name coaches that are interested in this job" I was worried he was being taken for a ride by agents. We're a fantastic program... but the majority of "big name" coaches are already at decent gigs and have their programs rolling. I just don't think there's 3+ "big name" coaches desperate to come here. It screams of agents trying to get new contracts. Cohen didn't deal with this in the football coaching search, and the other hires are for small $ sports.

I 100% believe in Cohen's ability to evaluate coaching talent, and to conduct the search smoothly and quietly. However, I fear he was to trusting and took these coaches at face value when they showed interest. Maybe he's not familiar with how scummy these coaches will get for $$, or maybe he just thinks our program is that good that everyone is willing to come here. But the whole situation from the very beginning screamed agents trying to get a new deal

[preachermatt83]

This is an absurd statement. Vanderbilt sucked at baseball before Corbin showed up.

Maybe. But when you reel in too 5 recruiting classes every single year bc of it you are going to win.

[TNDawg35]

On a side note, can I get more vcash? Cause Schloss just took all mine back to Fort Worth with him..

[Dawg61]

Maybe. But when you reel in too 5 recruiting classes every single year bc of it you are going to win.

Pretty sure the private school recruiting advantage was there before Corbin showed up. When did Polk start bitching about it? Corbin is an excellent recruiter. He sold the best attributes Vandy had to offer and it worked. He'll adjust those selling points for MSU and it'll work again because Corbin is an excellent recruiter.

[Johnson85]

The interesting thing with Corbin is that Vandy could be playing us this weekend in a super regional. It will get very interesting if we win today and nothing is announced this week.
If we do play Vandy someone in our athletic department should leak that Corbin is our top candidate and will be hired at the end of Vandy's season just to create a distraction for them.

That would be awesome and hilarious to do provided he is for sure not a candidate.