This is why so many West Coast Schools were grouped together

[Bulldog1]

https://twitter.com/KendallRogers/status/1001851297644019713?s=20

[Rick Danko]

Snowflake states... lock it up

[SandlotDawg]

That's a shame. I don't understand how one state protesting another state's political policies by keeping sports teams from playing in said state will accomplish anything? "Oh you know what will really show those rednecks? Not traveling to their state to play sports. Yeah that'll teach them."

[CadaverDawg]

Time for Cali-Exit

[msbulldog]

Need to make them play themselves, so they will eliminate themselves before they ever get out of the regional's. LSUx is fixing to show them how to ball!

[Dawg61]

Time for Cali-Exit

That would be devastating to USA. California has the 5th largest economy in the world.

[shoeless joe]

That would be devastating to USA. California has the 5th largest economy in the world.

It would literally be a controlled political experiment. The immigration and emigration affects...it would be hilarious to look back at in 5-10 years.

[Quaoarsking]

#Fake News, as I demonstrated on the other board.
http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/showthread.php?186487-Wondering-why-LSU-ended-up-in-Corvallis-We-re-involved&p=1490098#post1490098

Let's examine this rationally and unemotionally:

Only 4 teams that are public schools from WA or CA made the NCAA Tournament: UCLA, Cal State Fullerton, Washington, and San Diego State

There are only 2 regionals in the West at all, Stanford and Oregon State, both Pac-12 schools.
Cal State Fullerton is a 3 seed at Stanford, which makes geographic sense.
San Diego State is a 3 seed at Oregon, which makes geographic sense.
UCLA is a 2 seed. They can't be sent to Stanford or Oregon State, since they're from the same conference, so they would have to go somewhere far away.

Minnesota is hosting, but there aren't any 2-seeds close to them, other than Purdue who can't be sent there because it's the same conference.
Therefore, some 2 seed was going to have to be shipped in to Minnesota, and UCLA (a 2 seed) was going to have to be shipped somewhere. UCLA to Minnesota was a sensible matchup.


Washington is a 3 seed and can't be sent to Oregon State or Stanford, so they were going to have to be sent somewhere far away.

With an RPI of 63, they were one of the weakest 3 seeds and just had to be plugged in wherever. Coastal Carolina wasn't the only possible destination, but there are 5 Regionals in the Carolinas, so it's not surprising there aren't enough local teams to fill out all 5 Regionals.



Additionally, there's no evidence that LSU was only sent to Oregon State as part of this scheme. LSU (RPI 34) is one of the weakest 2 seeds, so they're likely to be sent to one of the strongest 1 seeds. They can't go to Florida, Ole Miss, or Arkansas, so it's no surprise they got sent to either #2 Stanford or #3 Oregon State, which didn't have any available Western teams to slot in as their 2 seeds and therefore had no choice but to have 2 seeds from far away. (Thus the subject of this thread is wrong.)

A few additional pieces of evidence against this theory:

Kendall Rogers clarified on Twitter that he doesn't know if this is true or not, just that he's passing along something someone told him.
As mentioned, UC San Diego is playing in the D2 baseball tournament in North Carolina right now.
Cal (Berkeley) played in the NCAA Men's Tennis Tournament earlier this month in Texas. (not a pre-determined site)
UCLA played in the men's and women's tennis top 16 in North Carolina (pre-determined site)
San Diego State and UCLA played earlier this month in the women's golf NCAA Tournament in Lubbock, Texas.
Cal (Berkeley) played in the men's golf NCAA Tournament in North Carolina.


TLDR: There's pretty strong evidence that the idea that OP posted is false.

[Quaoarsking]

Also, West Coast schools aren't "grouped" together. The brackets aren't in any way weird, and there's not really much of any other way they could have arranged them, given that there's only 2 Western hosts, both from the Pac-12.

[BeardoMSU]

#Fake News, as I demonstrated on the other board.
http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/showthread.php?186487-Wondering-why-LSU-ended-up-in-Corvallis-We-re-involved&p=1490098#post1490098

good post.

[The Federalist Engineer]

That would be devastating to USA. California has the 5th largest economy in the world.

Nashville would replace Hollywood with better movies, Apple and Google would move to Austin Texas. All the productive citizens would move to Oregon. The 5th largest economy would be blended into remaining 49. A big factor on those economic numbers is heavily subsidized agriculture that could either be eliminated for savings or given to other states, easy.

California could just be given back to Mexico and we could all go there for cut rate vacations. It would be awesome to see the Berkeley crowd adjust from imagined fascism to real fascism. I would just drink a sprite, eat popcorn, and watch the fireworks on Noticiero Univision.

[confucius say]

That would be devastating to USA. California has the 5th largest economy in the world.

Also accounts for more debt than any other state, at over 4.3 billion. Both are largely due to it being the most populated state, which is 40 million (second largest state is TX at 28 million).

[BeardoMSU]

Nashville would replace Hollywood with better movies

Wrong, lol. Should've said Bollywood; that would've been at least in the general ballpark.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Wrong, lol. Should've said Bollywood; that would've been at least in the general ballpark.

Mighty fine movies made in Bollywood. "Lagaan" is the Cricket version of the "Natural" in terms of sporting cinematic beauty

[Jack Lambert]

Non of the states mention did not get hurt.

[Dawg61]

Nashville would replace Hollywood with better movies, Apple and Google would move to Austin Texas. All the productive citizens would move to Oregon. The 5th largest economy would be blended into remaining 49. A big factor on those economic numbers is heavily subsidized agriculture that could either be eliminated for savings or given to other states, easy.

California could just be given back to Mexico and we could all go there for cut rate vacations. It would be awesome to see the Berkeley crowd adjust from imagined fascism to real fascism. I would just drink a sprite, eat popcorn, and watch the fireworks on Noticiero Univision.

I think there's a better chance you live in Who Framed Roger Rabbit Land than any of what you just posted happening.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Nashville would replace Hollywood with better movies, Apple and Google would move to Austin Texas. All the productive citizens would move to Oregon. The 5th largest economy would be blended into remaining 49. A big factor on those economic numbers is heavily subsidized agriculture that could either be eliminated for savings or given to other states, easy.

California could just be given back to Mexico and we could all go there for cut rate vacations. It would be awesome to see the Berkeley crowd adjust from imagined fascism to real fascism. I would just drink a sprite, eat popcorn, and watch the fireworks on Noticiero Univision.

AAAAAAh, No. California would thrive, just as they do now. Their government would be based directly on the USA's except they now would keep all of their tax revenue. I am not sure why they do not just break up the state into 3-5 different states right now. They would gain 4-8 senators and 4-8 more electoral votes. They wouldn't join back up with Mexico, they would become a stand alone government with a top 5 economy. An economic juggernaut if you will.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I would add, regionals should be regional. But if the NCAA saw fit to schedule a CA team for MS, well if they refuse to play they should forfeit.

[BeardoMSU]

I think there's a better chance you live in Who Framed Roger Rabbit Land than any of what you just posted happening.

That's a good movie, tho, lol.

[DanDority]

That would be devastating to USA. California has the 5th largest economy in the world.

If they break away and continue with the policies that the current leaders of the State want they won't be 5th largest for long! Book it!

[BeardoMSU]

If they break away and continue with the policies that the current leaders of the State want they won't be 5th largest for long! Book it!

They should do an about-face, then they could be more like Mississippi.**

[Dawg61]

That's a good movie, tho, lol.

Classic

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[DanDority]

They should do an about-face, then they could be more like Mississippi.**

The only difference between Mississippi and CA now is Population, Yes, we and every State has corrupt politicians.

[Jack Lambert]

The only difference between Mississippi and CA now is Population, Yes, we and every State has corrupt politicians.

Well it's proven that we would not get stuck on a bridge in New Orleans waiting on uncle SAM to save us. Don't know about California yet.

[BulldogDX55]

The only difference between Mississippi and CA now is Population, Yes, we and every State has corrupt politicians.

They have jobs and a much higher standard of living.

[Jack Lambert]

If they break away and continue with the policies that the current leaders of the State want they won't be 5th largest for long! Book it!

You have to take in other considerations as well. They would bare the cost of maintaining the Electrical Grid, self Defense, road maintenance, , replacing Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, FEMA and then everything they sell and ship out side California will be an export and with export comes additional taxes. Many of the cars being built in Red States are sent to California. They would all be considered imports. They would have a trade deficient. I believe they have more autos then any other states. I think it would be a disaster for California.

[BeardoMSU]

The only difference between Mississippi and CA now is Population.

The only difference, eh? Do you think the MS gulf coast has the same economic/tourism draw as northern Cal, Silicon Valley, Nappa, etc?

[Dawg61]

The only difference between Mississippi and CA now is Population

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[Lord McBuckethead]

Well it's proven that we would not get stuck on a bridge in New Orleans waiting on uncle SAM to save us. Don't know about California yet.

True, but the US immediately poured shit tons of money into MS with an instant national guard presence. They just waited a week or so to start pouring into LA. That, and our MS people got off their asses.

[Lord McBuckethead]

You have to take in other considerations as well. They would bare the cost of maintaining the Electrical Grid, self Defense, road maintenance, , replacing Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, FEMA and then everything they sell and ship out side California will be an export and with export comes additional taxes. Many of the cars being built in Red States are sent to California. They would all be considered imports. They would have a trade deficient. I believe they have more autos then any other states. I think it would be a disaster for California.

You also have to take into consideration the amount of money CA pays for the other 49 states to maintain their SS, medicare, medicaid, FEMA etc. Per capita taxes collected, California is like 8th in the country at 11k per person. MS is only 3k. Not to mention California is about at 550 billion collected, almost 1.6x the state of Texas.
Also, CA has the ability to combine their state funds and federal funds to make ends meet. In 2016, taxes equated to 20% their gsp. Add that to the services they already provide through their state taxes, thats pretty strong.

[Lord McBuckethead]

They have jobs and a much higher standard of living.

I see no difference in standard of living in Ackerman and Sturgis versus Los Angelos and San Diego.
Jobs, what jobs. Mexicans are taking all the best jobs in CA. I see US Americans lining up to pick strawberries for 2 dollars an hour all over the place.
CA is just the exact same as Mississippi, except for the population size.**

[Lord McBuckethead]

One of the largest issues for CA is backing a new FEMA and just basic resources like water. The US would rake them over the coals for water, as they should.

[BeardoMSU]

I see no difference in standard of living in Ackerman and Sturgis versus Los Angelos and San Diego.
Jobs, what jobs. Mexicans are taking all the best jobs in CA. I see US Americans lining up to pick strawberries for 2 dollars an hour all over the place.
CA is just the exact same as Mississippi, except for the population size.**

lol

[Jack Lambert]

True, but the US immediately poured shit tons of money into MS with an instant national guard presence. They just waited a week or so to start pouring into LA. That, and our MS people got off their asses.

I am not talking after the storm. I am talking about before when Mississippians got the hell out of dodge and those 50K to 100K left in New Orleans waited for someone else to get them out of dodge.

Dependency on the goverment is a drug that many people are addicted to. I for one am not waiting on the goverment for help. I will take care of my self, wife and kids. I don't want to here well they are at a disadvantage. Pull up your trouser and get a job.

[Johnson85]

They have jobs and a much higher standard of living.

Yes and no. They have jobs and a much higher standard of living for people with great jobs (or maybe even with good jobs if you take into account weather and access to beaches/mountains, etc.

But California, like most socialist paradises, is a land of haves and have nots. They have a high percentage of people in poverty (supposedly the highest in the U.S. if you adjust for PPP).

It's also worth remembering that California is relatively huge. More than three times the area of Mississippi, but people basically think of either the san fran area or the los angelos or san diego area when they think of California.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Also true. But you are not giving credit to the other 800k of people that did take care of themselves. You are only referring to a small portion of the population.
I have lived in an area devastated by flooding. Entire lifetimes of investment ruined in a moment when a levee breaks. I have seen men that are bootstrap guys sit and watch everything in their entire lives get destroyed and wonder where is the help. In those situations, help arrived within hours if not minutes. Where was N.O. help? It could have arrived in hours as it should have.
When you have no new information, do you leave your home when help should be a couple hours away? The issue goes beyond lazy people waiting for their hand out.

[Jack Lambert]

Also true. But you are not giving credit to the other 800k of people that did take care of themselves. You are only referring to a small portion of the population.
I have lived in an area devastated by flooding. Entire lifetimes of investment ruined in a moment when a levee breaks. I have seen men that are bootstrap guys sit and watch everything in their entire lives get destroyed and wonder where is the help. In those situations, help arrived within hours if not minutes. Where was N.O. help? It could have arrived in hours as it should have.
When you have no new information, do you leave your home when help should be a couple hours away? The issue goes beyond lazy people waiting for their hand out.

I was living in North Jackson when Jackson flooded. Our roof top was all we could see. My mom got us the hell out of there. She said screw the house. Save our lives first. My mom had enough wisdom to have flood insurance. You have dumb asses living in flood zones with out it. In a 100 year flood every one has 4% chance of you house flooding every year. That's why the goverment changed the laws about who can buy flood insurance and who can't. You have to take care of your self. Be smart and think ahead. Don't buy the 40k car but live in a 20k house that can be flooded or burned down real easy and not have coverage.

I will say this everyone in Mississippi should buy earth quake insurance. It could happen and it is very cheap to own.

[Bothrops]

One of the largest issues for CA is backing a new FEMA and just basic resources like water. The US would rake them over the coals for water, as they should.

California's water problem could be solved by the Army Corps of Engineers, fairly easily. They just won't do it.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I was living in North Jackson when Jackson flooded. Our roof top was all we could see. My mom got us the hell out of there. She said screw the house. Save our lives first. My mom had enough wisdom to have flood insurance. You have dumb asses living in flood zones with out it. In a 100 year flood every one has 4% chance of you house flooding every year. That's why the goverment changed the laws about who can buy flood insurance and who can't. You have to take care of your self. Be smart and think ahead. Don't buy the 40k car but live in a 20k house that can be flooded or burned down real easy and not have coverage.

I will say this everyone in Mississippi should buy earth quake insurance. It could happen and it is very cheap to own.

I agree, but a 100 year flood has a 1% chance per year.

[Jack Lambert]

I agree, but a 100 year flood has a 1% chance per year.

Point is everyone has a chance. I live 15 miles from the Pearl River. I told my neighbor he might want to get flood insurance. He said we can never flood where we are. I walked him over the the street gutter and on top of it, it says "run directly to the river". Stands to reason if the river floods and backs up the gutters will back up. I don't know if he took the advise or not.

I was just saying everyone should look out for them selves and not rely on the goverment because our goverment does let people down from time to time.

[Political Hack]

I am not talking after the storm. I am talking about before when Mississippians got the hell out of dodge and those 50K to 100K left in New Orleans waited for someone else to get them out of dodge.

Dependency on the goverment is a drug that many people are addicted to. I for one am not waiting on the goverment for help. I will take care of my self, wife and kids. I don't want to here well they are at a disadvantage. Pull up your trouser and get a job.

There are other examples of this during the response and recovery, but this is a misunderstanding of the circumstances that led up to the storm. Mayor Nagin (sp?) went on TV and radio and ordered a mandatory evacuation of NOLA while simultaneously naming the Super Dome as the "shelter of last resort." He was advised by FEMA to NOT do that. He should've announced the mandatory evacuation and then, 12 hours later, announced where the shelter would be. Instead of leaving, tens of thousands of people flocked to the super dome, eventually leading to the biggest evacuation exercise performed by the Department of Defense since he U.S. pulled out of Vietnam.

[Jack Lambert]

There are other examples of this during the response and recovery, but this is a misunderstanding of the circumstances that led up to the storm. Mayor Nagin (sp?) went on TV and radio and ordered a mandatory evacuation of NOLA while simultaneously naming the Super Dome as the "shelter of last resort." He was advised by FEMA to NOT do that. He should've announced the mandatory evacuation and then, 12 hours later, announced where the shelter would be. Instead of leaving, tens of thousands of people flocked to the super dome, eventually leading to the biggest evacuation exercise performed by the Department of Defense since he U.S. pulled out of Vietnam.

Everyone failed Katrina from the Feds down to the city. My point is people should be self reliant as much as possible. Don't put all you eggs in the goverment basket. The eggs will get broken. If I lived in NO and had no transportation and had to rely on the goverment, I would not gable. I would store food and water in my attic. I would buy a tent and a ax and keep all of them in the attic. I would cut my way out the top and camp on my roof. I be like NOAH but with out the animals and i would have a gun. Possibly a fishing pole.

By the way I can't believe this has not been moved.

[BulldogBear]

California's water problem could be solved by the Army Corps of Engineers, fairly easily. They just won't do it.

I wasn't aware Cali had an army, with or without a corps of engineers***

[Dawg61]

Everyone failed Katrina from the Feds down to the city. My point is people should be self reliant as much as possible. Don't put all you eggs in the goverment basket. The eggs will get broken. If I lived in NO and had no transportation and had to rely on the goverment, I would not gable. I would store food and water in my attic. I would buy a tent and a ax and keep all of them in the attic. I would cut my way out the top and camp on my roof. I be like NOAH but with out the animals and i would have a gun. Possibly a fishing pole.

By the way I can't believe this has not been moved.

If there's ever a zombie apocalypse I'd like to join your clan please

[Jack Lambert]

If there's ever a zombie apocalypse I'd like to join your clan please

You be welcomed.

[coachnorm]

Need to make them play themselves, so they will eliminate themselves before they ever get out of the regional's. LSUx is fixing to show them how to ball!

Something else to factor in is if there will be much interest in college baseball in certain regions. When UCLA beat us years ago, very few knew or cared on the West Coast? Getting many people to travel for college baseball can be challenging also? Who wants to pay big money for college baseball, most Americans would not pay big money for pro ball? College Baseball is irrelevant in most of America so how do schedulers navigate this minefield? The politics night be be part of the issue but not as profound as other folks might believe.