RPI up to 26

[starkvegasdawg]

Just in case it hasn't been mentioned in another thread yet.

[Saltydog]

up at all after the last win. I would've thought we'd been easily inside the top 25 after sweeping UF.

[CadaverDawg]

up at all after the last win. I would've thought we'd been easily inside the top 25 after sweeping UF.

Yeah I don't think anybody knows how rpi works. It makes no sense. Hell, even Ben McDonald said our rpi would likely move to close to 20 after Game 2....but it moved from 27 to 26, and like you said didn't move at all after sweeping. You sweep the #1 team & rpi doesn't shift after the 2nd & 3rd Win? It's a garbage metric in my opinion

[Bulldog1]

Yeah I don't think anybody knows how rpi works. It makes no sense. Hell, even Ben McDonald said our rpi would likely move to close to 20 after Game 2....but it moved from 27 to 26, and like you said didn't move at all after sweeping. You sweep the #1 team & rpi doesn't shift after the 2nd & 3rd Win? It's a garbage metric in my opinion

Agree. The people that run RPI don't even know how it works LOL.

[CadaverDawg]

Agree. The people that run RPI don't even know how it works LOL.

It's laughable. And for it to be such a major qualifier in baseball & basketball is criminal

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Yeah I don't think anybody knows how rpi works. It makes no sense. Hell, even Ben McDonald said our rpi would likely move to close to 20 after Game 2....but it moved from 27 to 26, and like you said didn't move at all after sweeping. You sweep the #1 team & rpi doesn't shift after the 2nd & 3rd Win? It's a garbage metric in my opinion


Agree. The people that run RPI don't even know how it works LOL.

Someone that?s way more into RPI than me will probably come and explain it a lot better, but RPI is essentially a formula that gives you a numerical value of worth. The team with the highest value is #1, lowest is last. Coming into this weekend we were bunched up with a lot of other teams with about the same value, the first win separated us from that clump of teams (large RPI jump), but apparently there was a pretty large gap between the us and the 25th team, hence only going up 1 spot after 2 major RPI wins

ETA: I actually think the formula for calculating it is **relatively** straightforward, plenty of people can give you a rough estimation of where RPI will be after a win or loss before the game occurs and/or keep their own spreadsheets using their own tweaked formulas

[MetEdDawg]

Someone that?s way more into RPI than me will probably come and explain it a lot better, but RPI is essentially a formula that gives you a numerical value of worth. The team with the highest value is #1, lowest is last. Coming into this weekend we were bunched up with a lot of other teams with about the same value, the first win separated us from that clump of teams (large RPI jump), but apparently there was a pretty large gap between the us and the 25th team, hence only going up 1 spot after 2 major RPI wins

ETA: I actually think the formula for calculating it is **relatively** straightforward, plenty of people can give you a rough estimation of where RPI will be after a win or loss before the game occurs and/or keep their own spreadsheets using their own tweaked formulas

This is the correct assessment here. One win this late in the season shouldn't be moving us 8 spots unless we are very close to the other teams. There was a huge gap between 25 and 26 and even 3 wins against UF couldn't over come that.

Once tournament games start happening there will be additional movement. If we win Tuesday I would think that might get us into the Top 25. We also need those borderline Group 1 teams to go far in their tournament. Houston (48), Sam Houston State (52), and Louisiana (54) are all right on the cusp of the Top 50 line. Getting all 3 of those in would help the RPI. Also, a team like New Mexico State (104) getting inside the Top 100 would get us 2 additional Group 2 wins.

So there's a lot to happen, but if we win a few and some of our better opponents that we beat play well in their conference tournaments, we should crack the RPI Top 25 and could crack the Top 20. SEC teams like TAMU (20) and UK (25) could easily lose to Vandy and Auburn respectively and give us the chance to jump them.

ETA: Here's a current RPI example: our RPI is currently .5734. Louisville, who is one spot behind us, is .0047 behind us. Tennessee Tech, who is 5 spots in front of us, is only .0043 away from us. So we've distanced ourselves from the folks behind us and put ourselves on the back end of another jumbled RPI group in front of us.

[Johnson85]

Agree. The people that run RPI don't even know how it works LOL.

Well, you have to think about the fact that between Saturday and Sunday, every single game played by anybody we have played, as well as any game played by anybody that played somebody we played, impacts our RPI. It'd be interesting to see somebody calculate the difference between the best possible RPI and worst possible RPI after Saturday's game by picking the results in games after Friday (in other words, ignore what actually happened and just plug in results for every other relevant game in a way that gives the best and worst RPI for MSU) and figure out how much opponents play can move the RPI this late in the season.

I mean, certainly not interesting enough to be worth the effort, unless somebody wanted to make a program that will optimize for a selected team, and then use it going forward.

[graddawg]

Just in case it hasn't been mentioned in another thread yet.

I likely don't want to know the answer to this, but I can't help but wonder if winning any 3 of our "group 5" losses (i.e. teams with RPIs between 151-297) would have us in hosting contention headed into Hoover.

[MetEdDawg]

I likely don't want to know the answer to this, but I can't help but wonder if winning any 3 of our "group 5" losses (i.e. teams with RPIs between 151-297) would have us in hosting contention headed into Hoover.

No. We are a borderline 2/3 seed right now. Win all 3 of those plus 3-4 more then maybe. But even winning all three of those we are still probably a solid 2 instead of on the borderline.