DL 2018

[Coach007]

We should field THE nasty DL in the league this year. Who do you have starting and the back ups?

DE- Green/Adams
DL- Hoyett/Thomas
DL- Simmons/Brown
DE- Sweat/Rivers

I don't see drop off.. at all. In fact, I love our 3 deep!

DE- Jones
DT- Autry
DT- Harris
DE- Spencer

[Todd4State]

I think the biggest difference between Shoop and Grantham is that we are going to be more multiple with Shoop.

So, I think it will depend on whether we are playing a spread team and go 4-2-5 or a pro style team and go 4-3.

4-2-5

DE- Green
DT- Hoyett
DT- Simmons
DE- Sweat

4-3

DE- Rivers
DT- Thomas
DT- Simmons
DE- Sweat

[somebodyshotmypaw]

The DL could hold the key to the season. At times we've been talented, and at times we've been deep. But we've never been this talented AND deep in the same season. With this DL we should get plenty of short series of 5 plays or less. That gets our offense right back on the field. That gives our offense the chance to wear out the opposing defense.

[Homedawg]

I think the biggest difference between Shoop and Grantham is that we are going to be more multiple with Shoop.

So, I think it will depend on whether we are playing a spread team and go 4-2-5 or a pro style team and go 4-3.

4-2-5

DE- Green
DT- Hoyett
DT- Simmons
DE- Sweat

4-3

DE- Rivers
DT- Thomas
DT- Simmons
DE- Sweat

Not sure how we can be more multiple than what we did last year. We were a 5 db team majority of the snaps last year people just don't remember it. And we play a ton of 4-2-5 anyway. The biggest difference between the two is gap responsibility

[Todd4State]

Not sure how we can be more multiple than what we did last year. We were a 5 db team majority of the snaps last year people just don't remember it. And we play a ton of 4-2-5 anyway. The biggest difference between the two is gap responsibility

What I'm talking about is being able to match up players based on their skill sets. Like we'll see Brian Cole in at the nickel/star position against a slot WR rather than JT Gray, being bigger when we play a pro style team that wants to run between the tackles like LSU vs getting quicker players on the field when we play someone that runs a spread and I think we'll see a lot more zone and zone blitzing. So, being multiple in more ways than just formation.

[Coach007]

If we can't win with this returning defense, we hired the wrong guy.

Nobody should be able to run on us. NOBODY!

[SmokeyDawg]

Watching last year's games we seemed to go to 4-2-5 a lot in bigger games and especially bigger moments. I'm sure this had something to do with what the opposing offense was doing but I like it a lot considering the secondary needs the most improvement. I'd rather have more players that can cover on the field. Also like this year's D bc we are strong up front and Shoop is a secondary specialist from what I've seen in his numbers. I don't care who starts or backs up on the Dline. They won't be there long if they don't show up.

Eta. If it's a long distance 3 or 4th down in an important situation and need the pass rushers, give me.

DE- Green
DT- Simmons
DT- Rivers
DE- Sweat

Some one is hitting a qb.

[Bully13]

I think the biggest difference between Shoop and Grantham is that we are going to be more multiple with Shoop.

So, I think it will depend on whether we are playing a spread team and go 4-2-5 or a pro style team and go 4-3.

4-2-5

DE- Green
DT- Hoyett
DT- Simmons
DE- Sweat

4-3

DE- Rivers
DT- Thomas
DT- Simmons
DE- Sweat

This brings up a good topic and some interesting questions for novices like myself. Are some DC's more stubborn in that they prefer to run the same D despite the offense they are facing? I'm sure practicing the same D makes the learning curve easier on the players but is that the right way to go? Are some DC's more flexible than others? Is it difficult to teach the players different schemes in order to prepare better for next week's opponent? What type of DC is Shoop in this regard?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

DE - Green/Spencer
DT - Thomas/Hoyett
DT - Simmons/Brown
DE - Sweat/Rivers

[Johnson85]

DE - Green/Spencer
DT - Thomas/Hoyett
DT - Simmons/Brown
DE - Sweat/Rivers

So is Rivers not going to live up to the hype? I know we will switch out our DL a lot, but if he was as advertised, doesn't seem like we'd be able to afford having him back up Sweat and be on the field less than half the defensive plays.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So is Rivers not going to live up to the hype? I know we will switch out our DL a lot, but if he was as advertised, doesn't seem like we'd be able to afford having him back up Sweat and be on the field less than half the defensive plays.

Rivers is very good but so is Sweat & Green. We'll rotate a good bit but he hasn't done anything to start over either of those 2 guys. In a 3-4 he'd be starting Bc Green would be at OLB.

[Coach007]

DE - Green/Spencer
DT - Thomas/Hoyett
DT - Simmons/Brown
DE - Sweat/Rivers

Thomas over Hoyett? Considering how great Hoyett is, If Thomas is better, then we are loaded more than I thought

[Coach007]

So is Rivers not going to live up to the hype? I know we will switch out our DL a lot, but if he was as advertised, doesn't seem like we'd be able to afford having him back up Sweat and be on the field less than half the defensive plays.

I believe Rivers is a beast.... we are just loaded.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Thomas over Hoyett? Considering how great Hoyett is, If Thomas is better, then we are loaded more than I thought

That 1 could go either way but when Cory is healthy he's really tough to handle.

[HoopsDawg]

Rivers is very good but so is Sweat & Green. We'll rotate a good bit but he hasn't done anything to start over either of those 2 guys. In a 3-4 he'd be starting Bc Green would be at OLB.

I'm not sold on Green as a pure DE just yet. And Fletcher Adams started every game last year and Kobe Jones is really good but they don't have a true fit in this 4-2. Scares me bc I believe both are more talented than Brown.

[Pit Bull]

We should field THE nasty DL in the league this year. Who do you have starting and the back ups?

DE- Green/Adams
DL- Hoyett/Thomas
DL- Simmons/Brown
DE- Sweat/Rivers

I don't see drop off.. at all. In fact, I love our 3 deep!

DE- Jones
DT- Autry
DT- Harris
DE- Spencer

Yeah.....I'm thinking we have the best DL just short of BAMA and maybe UGA. We are just about there with them and I think it's enough to have at least a 9-3 or 10-2 season. Not sure what Auburn has, but they usually have plenty to deal with too.

[biggun]

Thomas over Hoyett? Considering how great Hoyett is, If Thomas is better, then we are loaded more than I thought

Don?t know that I have ever heard Hoyett called great. Performed better than expected after C Thomas was injured vs LSU which earned him considerable playing time the rest of the season but great???

Braxton, is that you???

[5049]

Yeah.....I'm thinking we have the best DL just short of BAMA and maybe UGA. We are just about there with them and I think it's enough to have at least a 9-3 or 10-2 season. Not sure what Auburn has, but they usually have plenty to deal with too.

Auburn has the top DL in the SEC, they are up there with Clemson nationally, simply from returning starters

We aren't far behind though, and we are probably better than Alabama and Georgia at this group

[Leeshouldveflanked]

If I was Spencer, I would redshirt... He could be a high round NFL draft prospect in a few years if he redshirted.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

If I was Spencer, I would redshirt... He could be a high round NFL draft prospect in a few years if he redshirted.

Based on our current depth, that idea does have merit. I like Spencer also. He sets the edge well. I think he is underrated.

[Hambone]

That’s why after reading all of this I don’t see any way Lovett sees the field this year... We have SO MUCH DEPTH at this position.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

That’s why after reading all of this I don’t see any way Lovett sees the field this year... We have SO MUCH DEPTH at this position.

Barring injury to any existing players, I agree that incoming linemen should probably redshirt. If the new rule passes, we could play Crumedy and Lovett in 4 games and still get the redshirt.

[Ari Gold]

If I was Spencer, I would redshirt... He could be a high round NFL draft prospect in a few years if he redshirted.

Zero chance.
No kid with his talent is going to miss an entire year as a jr.
Kid is a pro.
He will get his share of snaps this year...

[TUSK]

Auburn has the top DL in the SEC, they are up there with Clemson nationally, simply from returning starters

We aren't far behind though, and we are probably better than Alabama and Georgia at this group

Clemson is gonna be disgustingly nasty this year... I don't think anyone has close to the starting talent they do...

Behind them: Bammer, AU, MSU.... then UGA, IMO....

[Tbonewannabe]

I believe Rivers is a beast.... we are just loaded.

Moorhead said tonight we almost have enough Dline to have 3 lines that are championship level. He loves what Baker has done with them.

[Coach007]

Moorhead said tonight we almost have enough Dline to have 3 lines that are championship level. He loves what Baker has done with them.

We will have had to have made a horrible in our DC for this Defense to not be top 10 again.

[Coach007]

Clemson is gonna be disgustingly nasty this year... I don't think anyone has close to the starting talent they do...

Behind them: Bammer, AU, MSU.... then UGA, IMO....

Don't you only have 2 returning starters on D?

[TUSK]

Don't you only have 2 returning starters on D?

Short answer: We get back 3 that started on D vs FSU to open last season...

We got HAMMERED in the secondary... lost the whole Dime Package.... also 2 LBs, and 3 DLinemen...

[BuckyIsAB****]

Short answer: We get back 3 that started on D vs FSU to open last season...

We got HAMMERED in the secondary... lost the whole Dime Package.... also 2 LBs, and 3 DLinemen...

Raekwon Davis went from being a big fat lazy overhyped nothing to a top 10 draft pick.

Idk if its Saban or if its yalls DL coach, I know yall get a new one for this year but that kid made a complete 180 from high school to Bama

[Coach007]

Short answer: We get back 3 that started on D vs FSU to open last season...

We got HAMMERED in the secondary... lost the whole Dime Package.... also 2 LBs, and 3 DLinemen...

I know you are loaded, but that's hard to replace brother and not have issues.

[TUSK]

I know you are loaded, but that's hard to replace brother and not have issues.

Sure... Ya can't have 11-12 guys drafted and not feel the effects... It's a high number, even fer Bammer... But it's happened (to a lesser degree) several times the last decade...

DL depth may be a (slight) issue, but the schedule allows for 9 weeks of "fall training" before the final push....

The DL will be legit, the LB corps will be assassins.... the secondary is my only concern, for now...

[TUSK]

Raekwon Davis went from being a big fat lazy overhyped nothing to a top 10 draft pick.

Idk if its Saban or if its yalls DL coach, I know yall get a new one for this year but that kid made a complete 180 from high school to Bama

MDL coaches the secondary (mostly).... and he's transformed a few cats like that... And run a few off, as well...

Raekwon Davis eats "beasts" & "savages"... He was a good get, for certain.