Let's talk about Ole Miss vacating football games!

[Todd4State]

The rumor is that they are going to have to vacate any games that Jeff Scott and Laremy Tunsil played in.

I tried to use their stats to figure out what games those two played in and the stats on the Ole Miss site are pretty vague.

Anyway, what I did piece together was that as far as MSU is concerned:

Scott played in the 2012 Egg Bowl.
Tunsil played in the 2014-2015 Egg Bowls.

It's also very possible that the 2015 Sugar Bowl will be vacated.

How will you view those Egg Bowls that Ole Miss cheated to win? The one that will always suck to me is the 2015 Egg Bowl because that was Dak's last game. For me, I would have preferred us take care of business on the field and I will not forgive Dan for not focusing on the 2015 Egg Bowl. That said, Ole Miss winning that game is in my mind tainted at best.

[TNDawg35]

The egg bowls shouldn't have even been close if Mullen would not have been worried about getting out of Starkville so much. If he would have had his head in all the games he coached in, no telling what we could have done...

[Bulldog1]

Laremey Tunsil and Jeff Scott participatied in these wins:

2012-2013
UTEP
Tulane
Auburn
Arkansas
Mississippi State (Egg Bowl)
Pittsburgh (Compass Bowl)

2013-2014
Vandy
Southeastern Missouri
Texas
LSU
Idaho
Arkansas
Troy

2014-2015
Boise State
Vandy
Louisiana Lafayette
Memphis
Alabama
Texas A&M
Tennessee
Mississippi State (Egg Bowl)

2015-2016
Texas A&M
Auburn
LSU
Mississippi State (Egg Bowl)
Oklahoma State (Sugar Bowl)

[Matty Dispatch]

Right now, the official series is Ole Miss 64-44-6.

On the field results, it's 62-46-6.

If they vacate 3 Egg Bowls it will be 61-44-6, so that would be closer to an accurate count. But if the NCAA just wants to vacate OM's wins, they should retroactively vacate the 1976 and 1977 MSU wins instead of forfeit, so the record would be 59-44-6.

[SailingDawg]

Right now, the official series is Ole Miss 64-44-6.

On the field results, it's 62-46-6.

If they vacate 3 Egg Bowls it will be 61-44-6, so that would be closer to an accurate count. But if the NCAA just wants to vacate OM's wins, they should retroactively vacate the 1976 and 1977 MSU wins instead of forfeit, so the record would be 59-44-6.

What would the record be for the last fifty or so years?

[TrapGame]

I'd rather ole miss vacate the campus and bulldoze the buildings.

[Thrill1]

Good stuff, but we won the 2016 Egg Bowl. Nick?s school rushing record and all.


Laremey Tunsil and Jeff Scott participatied in these wins:

2012-2013
UTEP
Tulane
Auburn
Arkansas
Mississippi State (Egg Bowl)
Pittsburgh (Compass Bowl)

2013-2014
Vandy
Southeastern Missouri
Texas
LSU
Idaho
Arkansas
Troy

2014-2015
Boise State
Vandy
Louisiana Lafayette
Memphis
Alabama
Texas A&M
Tennessee
Mississippi State (Egg Bowl)

2015-2016
Texas A&M
Auburn
LSU
Mississippi State (Egg Bowl)
Oklahoma State (Sugar Bowl)

[msstatelp1]

Just as soon they not be counted at all. No win for them, no loss for us, but I'll not forgive Mullen for being unprepared because of his job search.

[Bulldog1]

Good stuff, but we won the 2016 Egg Bowl. Nick?s school rushing record and all.

We didn't win the 2015-2016 Egg Bowl. We lost 38-27.

[Thrill1]

Gotcha. Threw me off with the academic year listing.

[Matty Dispatch]

What would the record be for the last fifty or so years?

In the last 60 games, on the field, it's 36-22-2 Ole Miss.

In the last 50 games, it's 28-21-1 Ole Miss.

In the last 40 it's 23-17 Ole Miss.

In the last 30 it's 16-14 Ole Miss.

In the last 20 it's 10-10.

In the last 10 it's 5-5.

On the field, MSU was 24-17-2 pre-Johnny Vaught and is 20-26 post-Johnny Vaught....so 44-43-2 vs. all their other OM coaches and 2-19-4 vs. Vaught.

ETA: Vaught came back to coach the back half of the 1973 season, so make that 2-20-4 vs. Vaught and 44-42-2 vs. all others.

[BuckyIsAB****]

In the last 60 games, on the field, it's 36-22-2 Ole Miss.

In the last 50 games, it's 28-21-1 Ole Miss.

In the last 40 it's 23-17 Ole Miss.

In the last 30 it's 16-14 Ole Miss.

In the last 20 it's 10-10.

In the last 10 it's 5-5.

On the field, MSU was 24-17-2 pre-Johnny Vaught and is 20-26-1 post-Johnny Vaught....so 44-43-3 vs. all their other OM coaches and 2-19-4 vs. Vaught.

Im not sure that all adds up but I havent taken the time to go back and count so I'll take your word for it.

Mullen finished 5-4 against them and Jackie was .500 I think after the meltdown at the end I do know that

[Matty Dispatch]

Im not sure that all adds up but I havent taken the time to go back and count so I'll take your word for it.

Mullen finished 5-4 against them and Jackie was .500 I think after the meltdown at the end I do know that

It should add up - I was counting on-the-field records, so the 1976 and 1977 MSU wins which were forfeited and given to OM as wins were reversed.

JWS was 7-6 vs. OM. MSU is 14-13 in the series since the series returned to campus, i.e. JWS was hired.

[SailingDawg]

On the field, MSU was 24-17-2 pre-Johnny Vaught and is 20-26 post-Johnny Vaught....so 44-43-2 vs. all their other OM coaches and 2-19-4 vs. Vaught.


No wonder they worship Vaught. They actually beat their rival, but not LSU, right?

[Matty Dispatch]

No wonder they worship Vaught. They actually beat their rival, but not LSU, right?

Vaught was 15-7-3 vs. LSU.

He was a great coach: 90-13-4 from 1954-1963. That's a .860 winning percentage over 10 years. By comparison, Nick Saban is 125-14 over 10 years from 2008-2017; a winning percentage of .899....so in Vaught's prime he won at a rate 4% less than Saban. It's no wonder OM fans still talk about those days.

[1bigdawg]

Vaught was 15-7-3 vs. LSU.

He was a great coach: 90-13-4 from 1954-1963. That's a .860 winning percentage over 10 years. By comparison, Nick Saban is 125-14 over 10 years from 2008-2017; a winning percentage of .899....so in Vaught's prime he won at a rate 4% less than Saban. It's no wonder OM fans still talk about those days.

All of the above is true and if I were cursed to be a UNM fan, I would be proud of those days. Having said that, they had one of the softest schedules in the country for most of that time.

[SailingDawg]

Vaught was 15-7-3 vs. LSU.

He was a great coach: 90-13-4 from 1954-1963. That's a .860 winning percentage over 10 years. By comparison, Nick Saban is 125-14 over 10 years from 2008-2017; a winning percentage of .899....so in Vaught's prime he won at a rate 4% less than Saban. It's no wonder OM fans still talk about those days.

So why didn't they continue to achieve at that level? If you have a program you can build on it. The money is there, the tradition is there (I'm speaking generally)...desegregation? How did others pass them up so easily?

It was a short time in history. Why didn't Vaught get hired away?

[Todd4State]

So why didn't they continue to achieve at that level? If you have a program you can build on it. The money is there, the tradition is there (I'm speaking generally)...desegregation? How did others pass them up so easily?

It was a short time in history. Why didn't Vaught get hired away?

Integration.

They also want a quick fix to get back there so they cheat their ass off to get close to that level but they never quite do and it usually ends up in a couple of good seasons followed by a massive dumpster fire for awhile. They are not willing to do things the right way even if it means having a losing season to build. Plus, their whole marketing strategy as a university hurts them because when you target Texas and Georgia and you are in Mississippi you end up with a fan base that is really spread out.

And why would Vaught leave? He had it made there.

[TUSK]

This is excellent news... That'll move the Bammer-OM Series back to a more respectable 50-7-2 all-time...

Hell, I'm gonna hang another banner.

[BuckyIsAB****]

It should add up - I was counting on-the-field records, so the 1976 and 1977 MSU wins which were forfeited and given to OM as wins were reversed.

JWS was 7-6 vs. OM. MSU is 14-13 in the series since the series returned to campus, i.e. JWS was hired.

So Mullen went 5-4, Jackie went 7-6 and Croom went 2-3 correct?

[SailingDawg]

Integration.

They also want a quick fix to get back there so they cheat their ass off to get close to that level but they never quite do and it usually ends up in a couple of good seasons followed by a massive dumpster fire for awhile. They are not willing to do things the right way even if it means having a losing season to build. Plus, their whole marketing strategy as a university hurts them because when you target Texas and Georgia and you are in Mississippi you end up with a fan base that is really spread out.

And why would Vaught leave? He had it made there.

I knew these answers. But you would think Vaught would be wanted since he was so good!***

[RocketDawg]

Good stuff, but we won the 2016 Egg Bowl. Nick?s school rushing record and all.

Do they get to vacate that loss? **

[BulldogBear]

I hate vacated wins. I hate forfiets. A win by forfiet may officially be a win but doesn't feel like one. A vacated win is even more bizarre. Both results are lame. All such punishments should be removed from the matrix and/or thought process and instead offenders should lose more scholarships! I still don't get why the NCAA doesn't get this. If they would bury a couple of programs it would staighten half this crap out. Programs cheat because it is not risky enough.