Cole Winn- MSU baseball recruit

[Todd4State]

Per Robbie Faulk on 247 asked out of his LOI and the interesting thing is he may commit to TCU.

I guess he hasn't heard that we're hiring Schlossnagle.**

[msbulldog]

Per Robbie Faulk on 247 asked out of his LOI and the interesting thing is he may commit to TCU.

I guess he hasn't heard that we're hiring Schlossnagle.**

Todd I know you read the same story I did, that projected Cole as the #15 draft pick after his senior year. Thats worth 3.7M/year, Ireally didn't expect to see him coming out of the bullpen at DNF.

[msstate7]

If this is correct, I believe our sources are wrong on schlossnagle. Regardless about schloss, we really need pitchers... this sucks

[Bulldog1]

What if he's running from Schloss? **

[HoopsDawg]

If this is correct, I believe our sources are wrong on schlossnagle. Regardless about schloss, we really need pitchers... this sucks

How does this suck? This guy is never going to play in college. It does beg the question, why is he asking for a release?

[msstate7]

How does this suck? This guy is never going to play in college. It does beg the question, why is he asking for a release?

Didn't realize he was projected so high.

[Commercecomet24]

It's been a foregone conclusion with Winn for a long time now. Mlb bound.

[Todd4State]

Todd I know you read the same story I did, that projected Cole as the #15 draft pick after his senior year. Thats worth 3.7M/year, Ireally didn't expect to see him coming out of the bullpen at DNF.

Oh yeah. If someone is going to de-commit I would much rather it be someone that isn't going to come here, TCU, or anywhere else for that matter that's college related.

[Todd4State]

If this is correct, I believe our sources are wrong on schlossnagle. Regardless about schloss, we really need pitchers... this sucks

I'll say it again- Cohen is truly the only one who knows who we are going to hire.

I don't think this means much one way or the other as far as who we hire because I don't think the recruits 100% know right now. And I think this decision by Winn proves that.

[Homedawg]

I'll say it again- Cohen is truly the only one who knows who we are going to hire.

I don't think this means much one way or the other as far as who we hire because I don't think the recruits 100% know right now. And I think this decision by Winn proves that.

Anybody who says otherwise is full of crap. Cohen is holding this tight to vest. IF we hire one of the guys that been mentioned, and I say IF, someone will beat their chest that they are right, but they were guessing. Winn asking out is odd though, he wasn't a cann commit anyway and it won't matter, he's signing.

[AlSwearengen]

Could he be trying to get more money for tuition out of the mlb team that drafts him? I?m sure tcu?s Tuition is considerably more than State?s.

[MarketingBully]

I'll say it again- Cohen is truly the only one who knows who we are going to hire.

I don't think this means much one way or the other as far as who we hire because I don't think the recruits 100% know right now. And I think this decision by Winn proves that.

Wouldn’t that pitching coach take over TCU if Schloss left anyway? I don’t think it means jack squat personally.

[Todd4State]

Wouldn’t that pitching coach take over TCU if Schloss left anyway? I don’t think it means jack squat personally.

Maybe but not necessarily. He could be the head coach at Rice too. If we hire Schlossnagle he may follow him to Starkville. A lot of moving parts that have to unfolded the next couple of weeks.

[Bully13]

can someone post the link? I can't find it. And if he IS MLB bound, why ask for a release? something's not adding up here. Maybe he plans to play college and he's worried about not knowing who our coach is going to be?

[Todd4State]

can someone post the link? I can't find it. And if he IS MLB bound, why ask for a release? something's not adding up here. Maybe he plans to play college and he's worried about not knowing who our coach is going to be?

He wants to stay committed to a college for leverage during negotiations.

[Commercecomet24]

He wants to stay committed to a college for leverage during negotiations.

This. He want's the biggest payday he can get. Can't say I blame him.

[MarketingBully]

He wants to stay committed to a college for leverage during negotiations.

Still kind of seems silly. As Paul and Gene pointed out in that thread we will have a coach by the time the draft rolls around and it could be that if he committed to TCU that TCU doesn’t have the coach instead of us.

[Bully13]

Still kind of seems silly. As Paul and Gene pointed out in that thread we will have a coach by the time the draft rolls around and it could be that if he committed to TCU that TCU doesn’t have the coach instead of us.

When is the draft? does it still happen sometime before Omaha? or after? I understand the $ part about being "committed" to a school but not understanding him wanting out of the LOI.

[Todd4State]

Still kind of seems silly. As Paul and Gene pointed out in that thread we will have a coach by the time the draft rolls around and it could be that if he committed to TCU that TCU doesn’t have the coach instead of us.

I guess he just doesn't want to be here if something falls through. But it will be ironic if we hire Schlossnagle.

[MarketingBully]

I guess he just doesn't want to be here if something falls through. But it will be ironic if we hire Schlossnagle.

That could happen as early as next week.

[Bully13]

That could happen as early as next week.

???

[Todd4State]

???

TCU is not expected to make the postseason and if we don't make the regionals either Cohen will go ahead and hire Schlossnagle at that time.

However, with next week being conference tournament week for everyone we will not make any hire next week.

So the earliest we could see a hire would be the week of May 27th. It all depends on how deep we go in the postseason because Cohen will not make the hire while our season is going on and also how deep the new coach's season goes on.

[ejdallas322]

J.T. Ginn , other good player in our class throws up to 98Mph;)

[Bully13]

J.T. Ginn , other good player in our class throws up to 98Mph;)

You think J.T. comes to State? I have no idea. But I do think We've got a better shot with J.T than tsun has with Joe Gray.

https://www.clarionledger.com/story/sports/2018/02/23/j-t-ginn-joe-gray-pick-between-mlb-draft-college-ole-miss-mississippi-state-recruits-2018/356716002/

Right-handed pitcher J.T. Ginn out of Brandon was 2017’s Clarion Ledger Player of the Year. He hit .483 with 11 doubles, 16 homers and 66 RBIs.

More importantly, he’s a pro scout's dream of a pitching prospect: he’s 6-foot-2, 200 pounds, throws fastballs that register in the mid-90s and has three plus-plus pitches. He went 5-1 on the mound with 69 strikeouts in 39.1 innings last year.

Hattiesburg’s Joe Gray has garnered just as much attention, if not more. He’s a true five-tool player who has stayed inside nearly all of the top-20 prospects lists for the 2018 class since his freshman year.

Gray hit .474 last year with seven home runs and 45 RBIs. He runs like a deer and hits for power, and even though he’s not a natural pitcher, his arm was strong enough to help him go 9-1 on the mound with a 2.81 ERA.

“I’m really on the fence about it,” Ginn said last week, before Cannizaro’s departure (indications are that event will not change Ginn's thought process). “Mississippi State is a great place. I grew up going there and watching games, they’ve got the new stadium and I would be a part of a great class, plus I definitely want to go to school.

“But if the opportunity to go make some life-changing money presents itself, it’s going to be a hard decision I’ll have to make with my family.”

aseball Game on Saturday at Wrigley Field in Chicago. (Photo: USA Today Sports)

That includes Ginn’s father Mike, who works as a quality specialist at the Nissan plant in Canton.

“J.T. really does put it out of his mind,” Mike said. “I told him if he’s focusing on what is going to happen in June and July, he’s not focusing on what he should be focusing on, which is the task at hand.”

Gray, who also relies on his father, Joe Gray Sr., for guidance says that’s nearly impossible.

“If J.T. says he doesn’t think about it all the time, he’s lying,” Gray said, laughing. “We’ve grown close over the last couple of years and I count him as a friend, but it’s impossible not to think about it.

“It would be hard to turn down professional baseball. (The MLB offer) would have to be millions, I can tell you that. So if it’s late-3rd round or later, that pretty much automatically eliminates that. At the end of the day, the decision is going to be whatever my family and I feel like is the best situation for me.”

(ME)-- It would appear both are jockeying around for bigger bucks from MLB. And I'm sure there are 150 more H.S. baseball stars that are doing the same thing all around the country right now . And they should. But from that article, I'd say J.T. played the better poker hand than Gray did.

[HoopsDawg]

2 million or more, I would go. 1 million or less, college.

Between 1 and 2, tough decision.

[Bulldog1]

You think J.T. comes to State? I have no idea. But I do think We've got a better shot with J.T than tsun has with Joe Gray.

https://www.clarionledger.com/story/sports/2018/02/23/j-t-ginn-joe-gray-pick-between-mlb-draft-college-ole-miss-mississippi-state-recruits-2018/356716002/

Right-handed pitcher J.T. Ginn out of Brandon was 2017’s Clarion Ledger Player of the Year. He hit .483 with 11 doubles, 16 homers and 66 RBIs.

More importantly, he’s a pro scout's dream of a pitching prospect: he’s 6-foot-2, 200 pounds, throws fastballs that register in the mid-90s and has three plus-plus pitches. He went 5-1 on the mound with 69 strikeouts in 39.1 innings last year.

Hattiesburg’s Joe Gray has garnered just as much attention, if not more. He’s a true five-tool player who has stayed inside nearly all of the top-20 prospects lists for the 2018 class since his freshman year.

Gray hit .474 last year with seven home runs and 45 RBIs. He runs like a deer and hits for power, and even though he’s not a natural pitcher, his arm was strong enough to help him go 9-1 on the mound with a 2.81 ERA.

“I’m really on the fence about it,” Ginn said last week, before Cannizaro’s departure (indications are that event will not change Ginn's thought process). “Mississippi State is a great place. I grew up going there and watching games, they’ve got the new stadium and I would be a part of a great class, plus I definitely want to go to school.

“But if the opportunity to go make some life-changing money presents itself, it’s going to be a hard decision I’ll have to make with my family.”

aseball Game on Saturday at Wrigley Field in Chicago. (Photo: USA Today Sports)

That includes Ginn’s father Mike, who works as a quality specialist at the Nissan plant in Canton.

“J.T. really does put it out of his mind,” Mike said. “I told him if he’s focusing on what is going to happen in June and July, he’s not focusing on what he should be focusing on, which is the task at hand.”

Gray, who also relies on his father, Joe Gray Sr., for guidance says that’s nearly impossible.

“If J.T. says he doesn’t think about it all the time, he’s lying,” Gray said, laughing. “We’ve grown close over the last couple of years and I count him as a friend, but it’s impossible not to think about it.

“It would be hard to turn down professional baseball. (The MLB offer) would have to be millions, I can tell you that. So if it’s late-3rd round or later, that pretty much automatically eliminates that. At the end of the day, the decision is going to be whatever my family and I feel like is the best situation for me.”

(ME)-- It would appear both are jockeying around for bigger bucks from MLB. And I'm sure there are 150 more H.S. baseball stars that are doing the same thing all around the country right now . And they should. But from that article, I'd say J.T. played the better poker hand than Gray did.
We have someone on here who is friends with JT's Dad. He says he wants to come to State so he can hit. I hope so!

[Ifyouonlyknew]

2 million or more, I would go. 1 million or less, college.

Between 1 and 2, tough decision.

I've heard $2mil is the figure.

[msstate7]

I've heard $2mil is the figure.

Slot value last draft for 2 million would be pick 34 and above.

[HoopsDawg]

I've heard $2mil is the figure.

If the young man doesn't want to put down the bat, wants to lessen his time in the minors, enjoy the college experience at the highest level, and statistically increase his likelihood of making it to the majors then 2 million seems like the right number to bypass all of that.

If they offer say 1.5 million, he has to feel like he can get at least that or better in 2 years. Plus his family might could look into an insurance policy to cover injuries.

[Bully13]

This site has Ginn at 36 and Gray at 58. Gonna be interesting how this plays out.

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2018?list=draft

[Bulldog1]

If Ginn skips college, I hope my Braves take him.

[msstate7]

This site has Ginn at 36 and Gray at 58. Gonna be interesting how this plays out.

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2018?list=draft

If ginn is picked in the 30s, he gone. I don't see an mlb team drafting him that high without a deal pretty much in place

[Commercecomet24]

You think J.T. comes to State? I have no idea. But I do think We've got a better shot with J.T than tsun has with Joe Gray.

https://www.clarionledger.com/story/sports/2018/02/23/j-t-ginn-joe-gray-pick-between-mlb-draft-college-ole-miss-mississippi-state-recruits-2018/356716002/

Right-handed pitcher J.T. Ginn out of Brandon was 2017’s Clarion Ledger Player of the Year. He hit .483 with 11 doubles, 16 homers and 66 RBIs.

More importantly, he’s a pro scout's dream of a pitching prospect: he’s 6-foot-2, 200 pounds, throws fastballs that register in the mid-90s and has three plus-plus pitches. He went 5-1 on the mound with 69 strikeouts in 39.1 innings last year.

Hattiesburg’s Joe Gray has garnered just as much attention, if not more. He’s a true five-tool player who has stayed inside nearly all of the top-20 prospects lists for the 2018 class since his freshman year.

Gray hit .474 last year with seven home runs and 45 RBIs. He runs like a deer and hits for power, and even though he’s not a natural pitcher, his arm was strong enough to help him go 9-1 on the mound with a 2.81 ERA.

“I’m really on the fence about it,” Ginn said last week, before Cannizaro’s departure (indications are that event will not change Ginn's thought process). “Mississippi State is a great place. I grew up going there and watching games, they’ve got the new stadium and I would be a part of a great class, plus I definitely want to go to school.

“But if the opportunity to go make some life-changing money presents itself, it’s going to be a hard decision I’ll have to make with my family.”

aseball Game on Saturday at Wrigley Field in Chicago. (Photo: USA Today Sports)

That includes Ginn’s father Mike, who works as a quality specialist at the Nissan plant in Canton.

“J.T. really does put it out of his mind,” Mike said. “I told him if he’s focusing on what is going to happen in June and July, he’s not focusing on what he should be focusing on, which is the task at hand.”

Gray, who also relies on his father, Joe Gray Sr., for guidance says that’s nearly impossible.

“If J.T. says he doesn’t think about it all the time, he’s lying,” Gray said, laughing. “We’ve grown close over the last couple of years and I count him as a friend, but it’s impossible not to think about it.

“It would be hard to turn down professional baseball. (The MLB offer) would have to be millions, I can tell you that. So if it’s late-3rd round or later, that pretty much automatically eliminates that. At the end of the day, the decision is going to be whatever my family and I feel like is the best situation for me.”

(ME)-- It would appear both are jockeying around for bigger bucks from MLB. And I'm sure there are 150 more H.S. baseball stars that are doing the same thing all around the country right now . And they should. But from that article, I'd say J.T. played the better poker hand than Gray did.

I?ve known Joe Gray since he was in coach pitch. He will be headed to mlb in June. If JT gets the money he wants he will be in mlb as well. And judging by what Mike told me the last few days JT will be drafted no lower than 30th pick so he?s more than likely gone. His last 2 starts pushed him up in several clubs minds. He hit 100mph 3 times in his last start. Was 95-97 in the 7th. I hope he comes to State but if they get their figure I don?t blame him one bit for taking it.

[Commercecomet24]

I've heard $2mil is the figure.

You are extremely accurate, sir.

Let me put it this way. 1.9 or less JT will be at State.

[msstate7]

I?ve known Joe Gray since he was in coach pitch. He will be headed to mlb in June. If JT gets the money he wants he will be in mlb as well. And judging by what Mike told me the last few days JT will be drafted no lower than 30th pick so he?s more than likely gone. His last 2 starts pushed him up in several clubs minds. He hit 100mph 3 times in his last start. Was 95-97 in the 7th. I hope he comes to State but if they get their figure I don?t blame him one bit for taking it.

If he is throwing a legit 97 in the 7th, he's gone. There's no reason to even wonder

[Commercecomet24]

If he is throwing a legit 97 in the 7th, he's gone. There's no reason to even wonder

Well there were 39 scouts at his last start so it?s pretty accurate

[msstate7]

Well there were 39 scouts at his last start so it?s pretty accurate

Then this discussion is over. If he wants 2 million, he'll get it

[Bulldog1]

Braves have to get him.

[Commercecomet24]

There were a lot of clubs concerned about his size(which I don't understand) and hard throwing hs pitchers have always been a gamble. There was a club that worked him out at catcher last week so there's that as well. If not State I would love to see him in Atlanta too. Be nice to get great free tickets and tour the clubhouse.

[Todd4State]

This site has Ginn at 36 and Gray at 58. Gonna be interesting how this plays out.

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2018?list=draft

That's just a prospect ranking list and not a mock draft just for clarification.

[jacksondawg]

does anyone know where I could find a list of our baseball signees high school and juco?

[ejdallas322]

Can you guys think of any high school or juco commits/signees that are good power hitters? We need some more guys around the size of like Rooker or Renfroe.

[ejdallas322]

And also the updated prospect rankings has Carter Stewart in top 5