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Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 03:32 PM
I'm super excited for this game tonight, so I'm starting this thread early so we can go ahead and discuss the game. Let's take Game 1!

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Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 04:34 PM
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preachermatt83
05-11-2018, 05:44 PM
#HailState

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 05:52 PM
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HoopsDawg
05-11-2018, 06:17 PM
Vansau is hitting .202; Hatcher is .261. But in conference play, Hatcher is hitting .183 with 71 AB's and Vansau is hitting .154 with 39 AB's. So I don't have a problem with Vansau against the UK righty. Vansau went 1-4 against Troy but he hit another ball really hard. Only other options would be Westburg or Jordan Anderson and just go righty vs righty. Hopefully, Vansau will take advantage of this opportunity.

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 06:19 PM
I really wish we'd move Alexander out of the cleanup spot.

Drugdog
05-11-2018, 06:21 PM
Mendoza line being abused.

HoopsDawg
05-11-2018, 06:21 PM
I really wish we'd move Alexander out of the cleanup spot.

I'd swap him and MacNamee, but stats show your batting order has little effect on run production. It's more about who is in your lineup than where they actually bat.

confucius say
05-11-2018, 06:21 PM
Let go!!

confucius say
05-11-2018, 06:23 PM
Vansau is hitting .202; Hatcher is .261. But in conference play, Hatcher is hitting .183 with 71 AB's and Vansau is hitting .154 with 39 AB's. So I don't have a problem with Vansau against the UK righty. Vansau went 1-4 against Troy but he hit another ball really hard. Only other options would be Westburg or Jordan Anderson and just go righty vs righty. Hopefully, Vansau will take advantage of this opportunity.

Vansaus at bats lately have been much better. He's going to throw up a two hit game soon

HoopsDawg
05-11-2018, 06:29 PM
Vansaus at bats lately have been much better. He's going to throw up a two hit game soon

I agree. Let's hope it's tonight. He had such a great summer. Maybe he just needs to be penciled in the lineup the rest of the way.

HoopsDawg
05-11-2018, 06:31 PM
Freaking women's softball running way behind and the SEC alt channel never works on DirecTV.

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 06:31 PM
They're seriously going to show this stupid softball game over our baseball game? ESPN sucks.

WeWonItAll(Most)
05-11-2018, 06:34 PM
Arkansas guy's finger just got exploded trying to bunt a ball and the ball hit his hand.

Liverpooldawg
05-11-2018, 06:34 PM
They're seriously going to show this stupid softball game over our baseball game? ESPN sucks.

Softball generally gets better ratings than college baseball.....seriously.

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 06:35 PM
Why can't they show our game over on 207 or 209 instead of those clowns talking?

Pit Bull
05-11-2018, 06:36 PM
They're seriously going to show this stupid softball game over our baseball game? ESPN sucks.

Yeah.....I just turned my tv off. Don't want them to get higher ratings because of me.

HoopsDawg
05-11-2018, 06:39 PM
Tanner Allen has such a nice compact swing.

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 06:40 PM
Let's get on the board early.

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 06:45 PM
2 run single by Stovall!

msbulldog
05-11-2018, 06:45 PM
Yeah 2-0 1st inning, let's take this thing!

msstate7
05-11-2018, 06:56 PM
Arkansas guy's finger just got exploded trying to bunt a ball and the ball hit his hand.

Dang. Who was it?

mparkerfd20
05-11-2018, 06:57 PM
2-1 after walk, g out, out, double

mparkerfd20
05-11-2018, 06:59 PM
2-1 after 1 good guys

HoopsDawg
05-11-2018, 07:00 PM
2-1 after walk, g out, out, double

freakin walk's man.

HoopsDawg
05-11-2018, 07:04 PM
perfect bunt situation with 9 hole.

HoopsDawg
05-11-2018, 07:04 PM
perfect bunt situation with 9 hole.

uh, WTH!?!

Skydawg1
05-11-2018, 07:05 PM
WHY hit away with freaking VANSAU right there?? Should have bunted. Vansau sucks.

mparkerfd20
05-11-2018, 07:05 PM
Vansau looked like a little bitch that AB

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 07:05 PM
perfect bunt situation with 9 hole.

Yep.

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 07:05 PM
Vansau does what he does best. Strike out. Might as well keep Hatcher at the DH.

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 07:07 PM
Bases loaded one out. Let's score a few more.

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 07:10 PM
Rowdey with a 2 run single, up 4-1!

BeardoMSU
05-11-2018, 07:11 PM
Hell yeah, Rowdy!

mparkerfd20
05-11-2018, 07:11 PM
2 runs score on a Rowdy hit down tha 3B line. Then Allen Ks. Luke up 1 and 3 on base. 4-1 Dawgs

BeardoMSU
05-11-2018, 07:11 PM
Please, Pilk....settle the **** down and give us 7 innings....

mparkerfd20
05-11-2018, 07:12 PM
Loaded again after Luke walks. 2 outs, Stovall up

HoopsDawg
05-11-2018, 07:13 PM
Pilk needs to be efficient. Save the Pen.

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 07:14 PM
Pilk needs to be efficient. Save the Pen.

Agreed. This is the key game. If we win here we have a great chance to take the series.

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 07:14 PM
Need a quick inning from Pilk here.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 07:14 PM
I'd have liked to see a take sign for Stovall there

BeardoMSU
05-11-2018, 07:16 PM
Need a quick inning from Pilk here.

3 pitches; 3 fly outs. Please, please, please...

mstatefan91
05-11-2018, 07:22 PM
I swear Alexander is the slowest short stop in the conference

msstate7
05-11-2018, 07:24 PM
That was awful play in RF.

mstatefan91
05-11-2018, 07:24 PM
Yep. 4-3.

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 07:24 PM
How the hell is Pilk our ace? And why two straight fastballs to one of the best hitters in the SEC?

msstate7
05-11-2018, 07:24 PM
Pilk 3 er 44 pitches through 2

VandelayIndustries
05-11-2018, 07:25 PM
Pilk is so frustrating to watch

mstatefan91
05-11-2018, 07:25 PM
This ump is tight on the plate. Gonna be a high scoring game.

End of 2. 4-3 good guys

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 07:25 PM
That was awful play in RF.

Pilk served up two straight BP fastballs to Pompei. He’s lucky the park held it.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 07:25 PM
How the hell is Pilk our ace? And why two straight fastballs to one of the best hitters in the SEC?

Be careful... pilk is the elite pitcher in sec. Say different, and you'll be attacked

WeWonItAll(Most)
05-11-2018, 07:26 PM
Dang. Who was it?

Their shortstop

Saltydog
05-11-2018, 07:27 PM
has got to be about 5 by now. His draft stock has got to be dropping.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 07:28 PM
Pilk sec era is 5.27; billingsley is 5.93

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 07:28 PM
has got to be about 5 by now. His draft stock has got to be dropping.

It’s 7 over the last two starts.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 07:28 PM
Their shortstop

That's terrible

msstate7
05-11-2018, 07:30 PM
has got to be about 5 by now. His draft stock has got to be dropping.

Era in sec is going up every start. K/9 goes down. Stock is crashing imo

Cloak
05-11-2018, 07:30 PM
has got to be about 5 by now. His draft stock has got to be dropping.

He's not the shut down ace we needed this year, but he will still go early in the draft. He has what it takes to be a pro.

Edit: I do not think he is in the "elite" tier some posters think he's in.

ZedFedder
05-11-2018, 07:31 PM
Pilkington has never quite risen to the status he is supposed to be at State. Always solid but never special. This year, though, he has dropped into bad status.

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 07:33 PM
This is what’s frustrating. His curveball is devastating and Henderson keeps calling fastball.

Lord McBuckethead
05-11-2018, 07:33 PM
If the starters stay in the game, it's going to be 25-23 type game.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 07:33 PM
Pilkington has never quite risen to the status he is supposed to be at State. Always solid but never special. This year, though, he has dropped into bad status.

His velocity has dropped from freshman year till now. Not sure why, but that is a huge concern. His strike out rate is way down

msstate7
05-11-2018, 07:34 PM
If the starters stay in the game, it's going to be 25-23 type game.

Haha

msstate7
05-11-2018, 07:35 PM
Pilk is throwing an 86 mph fastball in the 3rd inning. I'll be shocked if he goes in 2nd round

Saltydog
05-11-2018, 07:36 PM
the radar gun.

WeWonItAll(Most)
05-11-2018, 07:37 PM
What a play by Alexander. Neither camera angle they just showed could see when the 1B caught the ball and they'll still overturn it.

Nevermind there's some good angles

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 07:38 PM
Be careful... pilk is the elite pitcher in sec. Say different, and you'll be attacked

We've been over this already- he's above avg. not quite elite but definitely not "average."

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 07:40 PM
Nice double play.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 07:41 PM
Big play. Atta boy, pilk

ATTILLA THE DOG
05-11-2018, 07:41 PM
I swear Alexander is the slowest short stop in the conference

no doubt,if he makes that play its still 4 -1

Lord McBuckethead
05-11-2018, 07:41 PM
Wow. 1st who is shifting our players? That should have been ruitine. Next, nice stretch at 1st. Barely extended his arm.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 07:43 PM
Wow. 1st who is shifting our players? That should have been ruitine. Next, nice stretch at 1st. Barely extended his arm.

Allen is a freshman. I'll give him a pass, but he definitely needs to work on fundamentals at 1st

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 07:45 PM
Allen is a freshman. I'll give him a pass, but he definitely needs to work on fundamentals at 1st

Allen’s natural position is in the outfield not at first. Hatcher should be our every day first basemen and will next year. Allen will start in the outfield next year.

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 07:47 PM
Why is Henderson playing Vansau?

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 07:47 PM
Why is Henderson playing Vansau?

I honestly don't know.

dawgoneyall
05-11-2018, 07:49 PM
I know Ed Easley was great but is Gilbert not one of the best catchers gunning down runner at second base State has ever had.

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 07:50 PM
I know Ed Easley was great but is Gilbert not one of the best catchers gunning down runner at second base State has ever had.

He has been good.

HoopsDawg
05-11-2018, 07:52 PM
Why is Henderson playing Vansau?

Hatcher has been struggling so he's giving Vansau a shot.

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 07:52 PM
How hard is it to attack the strike zone as a pitcher? Seriously, Pilk.

HoopsDawg
05-11-2018, 07:53 PM
Oh boy, another leadoff walk. .200 hitter.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 07:53 PM
Oh boy, another leadoff walk. .200 hitter.

Sec elite

HoopsDawg
05-11-2018, 07:56 PM
terrible job by Stovall on the stretch.

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 07:56 PM
We're not winning with Pilk on the mound tonight.

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 07:57 PM
Hatcher has been struggling so he's giving Vansau a shot.

I wouldn't mind seeing Westburg DH.

HoopsDawg
05-11-2018, 07:57 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Westburg DH.

His numbers are poor too, but he is my choice as well.

HoopsDawg
05-11-2018, 07:58 PM
what a disaster. leadoff walk, blooper, and now a bunt hit b/c we don't charge it well and we don't stretch at 1B. bases loaded no one out.

Saltydog
05-11-2018, 07:58 PM
NT

HoopsDawg
05-11-2018, 07:59 PM
Crap, who do we go to. If we bring in France this early, he is shot for Sunday. Come on Pilk!!

mparkerfd20
05-11-2018, 07:59 PM
We are one shitty ass team

HoopsDawg
05-11-2018, 08:01 PM
Wow, that was meat.

Saltydog
05-11-2018, 08:02 PM
NT

msstate7
05-11-2018, 08:02 PM
We're not winning with Pilk on the mound tonight.

Tough to win Friday night sec games when your ace has an era over 5.50

mparkerfd20
05-11-2018, 08:02 PM
GD we suck

msstate7
05-11-2018, 08:02 PM
NT

It's been all year. He has no velocity.

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 08:04 PM
Blow out city and Pilk should be gone. Henderson going to Cole Gordon this.

Cooterpoot
05-11-2018, 08:04 PM
Pilk has struggled lately. All those pitches have caught up to him late in the year. He’s got a dead arm.

HoopsDawg
05-11-2018, 08:04 PM
Henderson's success rate after mound visits is not very good.

WeWonItAll(Most)
05-11-2018, 08:04 PM
It's been all year. He has no velocity.

Wasn't he low 90s last year? Or am I making that up?

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 08:05 PM
It's been all year. He has no velocity.

This reminds me of the Cole Gordon situation against Auburn. Pilk is going to put this game out of reach.

Leroy Jenkins
05-11-2018, 08:05 PM
Henderson looks like he would rather be taking his afternoon nap. I bet his pulse rate is 3.

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 08:05 PM
This is BAD.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 08:05 PM
Wasn't he low 90s last year? Or am I making that up?

Yes. His velocity has nosedived this year. He is not a good mlb prospect anymore

HoopsDawg
05-11-2018, 08:05 PM
Pilk is leaving everything up. Just bring in Denver or Billingsley. We've got to have Small and France for the next 2 games.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 08:06 PM
Pilk sec era is 5.67; billingsley is 5.93

Skydawg1
05-11-2018, 08:06 PM
Blow out city and Pilk should be gone. Henderson going to Cole Gordon this.We need to save our pitching. We can still score some runs tonight...hope so anyway.

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 08:06 PM
Nm

Goldendawg
05-11-2018, 08:06 PM
We need to move Pilk to the Sunday starter spot.

Randolph Dupree
05-11-2018, 08:06 PM
We are straight up #Hendersoning right now.

mparkerfd20
05-11-2018, 08:07 PM
Turning it off. I'm done. We ain't winning a game this weekend.

Lord McBuckethead
05-11-2018, 08:07 PM
Well that's what happens when you give away two outs and a free base. 4 runs and counting. Pilk couldn't fool a little leaguer right now.

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 08:07 PM
We need to save our pitching. We can still score some runs tonight...hope so anyway.

You think we can win the Sunday game? lol

Cloak
05-11-2018, 08:08 PM
Pilk's value is dropping as fast as my bitcoin

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 08:08 PM
86 pitches not even through 4 innings yet. Ridiculous.

WeWonItAll(Most)
05-11-2018, 08:08 PM
Yes. His velocity has nosedived this year. He is not a good mlb prospect anymore

How the hell does that happen without an injury?

Lord McBuckethead
05-11-2018, 08:08 PM
Wonder,. I would just leave Pilk out there until he gets to 110 pitches. Save the pen.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 08:09 PM
How the hell does that happen without an injury?

I'm gonna guess strength and conditioning

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 08:09 PM
Wonder,. I would just leave Pilk out there until he gets to 110 pitches. Save the pen.

And sacrifice the series? By doing that, you are sure surrendering the series. We aren’t winning Sunday.

Mjoelner34
05-11-2018, 08:10 PM
France will come in and pitch 3 innings after we're down 7.

Pit Bull
05-11-2018, 08:10 PM
Really got no choice but to stick with Pilk.....or dip into our other weekend pitching. Jelle is getting better with every inning.....doubt we get many more runs off him. Maybe just let Pilk go the distance no matter how bad they beat us so we can have our other pitching intact for the last 2 games.

Lord McBuckethead
05-11-2018, 08:12 PM
Terrible off season program. I said it.

Pit Bull
05-11-2018, 08:13 PM
7-4.....could have been worse I suppose. I thought they were about to put up an 8 spot they way the table was set.

Lord McBuckethead
05-11-2018, 08:13 PM
And sacrifice the series? By doing that, you are sure surrendering the series. We aren’t winning Sunday.

We won't win Sunday if our bullpen has already pitched to all these hitters.

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 08:14 PM
Home run, Stovall! Down 7-5 now.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 08:14 PM
Terrible off season program. I said it.

Gotta be. How in the hell do you let that happen if you're pilk though? I would be be getting myself ready with it being draft year

msstate7
05-11-2018, 08:15 PM
Freaking great play by 2b cost us a run

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 08:18 PM
Please bring Self out and it should be all for Pilk...

whosyourdawgy
05-11-2018, 08:18 PM
Was hoping for a collision there.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 08:19 PM
Pilk, please get a shut down inning. Please

BuckyIsAB****
05-11-2018, 08:19 PM
Turning it off. I'm done. We ain't winning a game this weekend.

What a baby

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 08:20 PM
Pilk, please get a shut down inning. Please

I wouldn’t have him out there. I think he’s thrown one scoreless inning all game. He’s not shutting this lineup down and they are getting their third look at him.

Pit Bull
05-11-2018, 08:21 PM
Sec elite

This is what we absolutely cannot do.....walk a .200 hitter and not get either of the next subpar hitters. Bases loaded with Pompey, Becker, etc. is pure death waiting to happen.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 08:21 PM
I wouldn’t have him out there. I think he’s thrown one scoreless inning all game. He’s not shutting this lineup down and they are getting their third look at him.

If we had a deep pen, I'd pull him. We really have no good options to go with down 2

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 08:23 PM
This is what we absolutely cannot do.....walk a .200 hitter and not get either of the next subpar hitters. Bases loaded with Pompey, Becker, etc. is pure death waiting to happen.

Pompei has to come up to bat with no one on if we are going to be successful on the mound this weekend.

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 08:24 PM
If we had a deep pen, I'd pull him. We really have no good options to go with down 2

You pull him. He’s really let us down down the stretch.

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 08:24 PM
Bringing Self in.

ATTILLA THE DOG
05-11-2018, 08:25 PM
alexander has got to make that play

Pit Bull
05-11-2018, 08:26 PM
Pilk didn't let the door hit him in the ass getting off the mound. Hmmph.....looks like he was ready to fly back to Vegas right then.

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 08:26 PM
alexander has got to make that play

Pilk can’t walk the nine hole hitter twice and walk a 200 hitter. All three of those walks came in to score.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 08:27 PM
alexander has got to make that play

That is a ball pretty much right where a SS should be. I would like to see where he was lined up; but unless he had to go a mile, I agree

ATTILLA THE DOG
05-11-2018, 08:27 PM
Pilk can’t walk the nine hole hitter twice and walk a 200 hitter. All three of those walks came in to score.

no doubt about that

maroonmania
05-11-2018, 08:27 PM
I wouldn’t have him out there. I think he’s thrown one scoreless inning all game. He’s not shutting this lineup down and they are getting their third look at him.

What the heck is wrong with Pilk lately? Is he somehow wanting to come back for his SR season? Sucked last week, sucks this week. Just when we finally start scoring some Friday night runs Pilk goes to pot.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 08:30 PM
What the heck is wrong with Pilk lately? Is he somehow wanting to come back for his SR season? Sucked last week, sucks this week. Just when we finally start scoring some Friday night runs Pilk goes to pot.

The radar gun tell you everything you need to know about pilk. He's 2-3 mph better than Ross Mitchell

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 08:34 PM
We cannot afford to give up a run right here. Need an out.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 08:34 PM
This could be our season right here

Homedawg
05-11-2018, 08:35 PM
Self has no velo. And he's healthy?? Um no

Homedawg
05-11-2018, 08:35 PM
The radar gun tell you everything you need to know about pilk. He's 2-3 mph better than Ross Mitchell

No that's not true. But he's he has no above avg pitch. None

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 08:37 PM
No that's not true. But he's he has no above avg pitch. None

As much as I've defended Pilk this year, I actually agree on this. He has no put away pitch.

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 08:37 PM
Self has no velo. And he's healthy?? Um no

An 85 mph cutter is pretty bad ass. Dakota Hudson’s 91 mph cutter was unhittable. Self still hasn’t developed a secondary pitch though.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 08:38 PM
Self has no velo. And he's healthy?? Um no

If he isn't healthy and we're using him again tonight after pitching Wednesday, I just assume fire whoever made that decision. We are going nowhere this season... self should be babied to have him next year

msstate7
05-11-2018, 08:39 PM
No that's not true. But he's he has no above avg pitch. None

What was Ross, 82-83? I could be misremembering

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 08:40 PM
Thank goodness Vansau got a hit there!

msstate7
05-11-2018, 08:40 PM
Atta boy, vansau

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 08:41 PM
Would be nice to score this run here.

maroonmania
05-11-2018, 08:41 PM
Well, while it might be nice to at least say we made a regional, we certainly aren't going anywhere with the state of our current pitching staff. How many more years will it be before we have enough healthy arms to complete a season with?

Lord McBuckethead
05-11-2018, 08:43 PM
Mangum needs to learn to take a pitch every once in a while.

Lord McBuckethead
05-11-2018, 08:43 PM
Jordan needs to step off the plate 3 inches.

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 08:44 PM
Come on, Tanner Allen. We need you to drive one here!

msstate7
05-11-2018, 08:45 PM
Man, I love rowdey. That was one hell of an AB for a freshman hitter

Saltydog
05-11-2018, 08:45 PM
year than in his first two years however.

Homedawg
05-11-2018, 08:48 PM
An 85 mph cutter is pretty bad ass. Dakota Hudson’s 91 mph cutter was unhittable. Self still hasn’t developed a secondary pitch though.

He was 87-89same pitch last year. So there's that

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 08:48 PM
So a Jordan drop in the outfield (which should have been an error but somehow was called a hit?) and a Stovall reach to get the guy at first on the bunt and we would be tied at 5-5.

Homedawg
05-11-2018, 08:49 PM
If he isn't healthy and we're using him again tonight after pitching Wednesday, I just assume fire whoever made that decision. We are going nowhere this season... self should be babied to have him next year

When I say healthy I mean full strength. He's not. Not close. Don't mean he's in danger of hurting himself or is already hurt. Poor wording on my part.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 08:53 PM
Nice, self

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 08:53 PM
Self is changing speeds really well with that cutter. He’s 85-87 at top end and getting 77-79 and getting them to swing and miss.

VandelayIndustries
05-11-2018, 08:54 PM
He looks good right now. Let's gooooo

The Federalist Engineer
05-11-2018, 08:54 PM
Did that team USA duty hurt Pilk? Dallas Woolfork was on that team too. Don't tell me mini Me was the pitching coach on team USA

Maybe he should have rested last summer

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 08:55 PM
Nice, self

He’s healthy. He has been healthy the last few weeks. Henderson has been very conservative in using him.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 08:56 PM
Did that team USA duty hurt Pilk? Dallas Woolfork was on that team too. Don't tell me mini Me was the pitching coach on team USA

Maybe he should have rested last summer

I would love to rest or really limit innings during summer, but no one would come here if we did that.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 08:58 PM
What a great job of hitting, Stovall

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 08:59 PM
Great job of putting the ball in play- ruled a hit. Rbi single, down 7-6.

Skydawg1
05-11-2018, 09:01 PM
Hold it right here Self!

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 09:02 PM
Great job of putting the ball in play- ruled a hit. Rbi single, down 7-6.

He should have been at second though. Base running mistake to not stretch it to second led to that double play.

whosyourdawgy
05-11-2018, 09:02 PM
Why did Foscue not go to 2nd on that play? We would still be batting if he had. Terrible base running there

Cloak
05-11-2018, 09:03 PM
He should have been at second though. Base running mistake to not stretch it to second led to that double play.

Yup.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 09:03 PM
Hjelle was not good tonight, but still saved his team's bullpen.

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 09:03 PM
Why did Foscue not go to 2nd on that play? We would still be batting if he had. Terrible base running there

Yep.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 09:04 PM
OM beating up on mize... wow. Hope om isn't starting to peak

ATTILLA THE DOG
05-11-2018, 09:04 PM
Why did Foscue not go to 2nd on that play? We would still be batting if he had. Terrible base running there

cause we dont have 1st base coach,its hurt us all year

Cloak
05-11-2018, 09:06 PM
OM beating up on mize... wow. Hope om isn't starting to peak

Lol, funny. You know they fall apart at the end of every season

msstate7
05-11-2018, 09:08 PM
Lol, funny. You know they fall apart at the end of every season

I think they're a good team. I'm not worried about a natty run though bc of Florida. I do think they are a real threat to make CWS

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 09:08 PM
OM beating up on mize... wow. Hope om isn't starting to peak

Propelling to be eventual CWS champs this year! ***

Todd4State
05-11-2018, 09:12 PM
I think they're a good team. I'm not worried about a natty run though bc of Florida. I do think they are a real threat to make CWS

This is probably their best chance to do it. They probably lose their entire starting rotation, Woolfolk is gone, and Carracci is also draft eligible although I could see him coming back.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 09:14 PM
Watching mlb all the time, it's strange to watch a guy strike out on a waist high slider haha

msstate7
05-11-2018, 09:17 PM
I'd try and steal here

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 09:19 PM
Knock him in, Rowdey.

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 09:20 PM
Need to score here.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 09:22 PM
Not our night

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 09:22 PM
Dang. Dang. Dang.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 09:23 PM
Dang. Dang. Dang.

Thought that a hit off bat

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 09:23 PM
He tattooed that fastball right to the second baseman. Sucked.

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 09:24 PM
Thought that a hit off bat

Me too. Thought it'd get over the 2B's head.

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 09:27 PM
Self must have been on a pitch count because he retired 8 in a row and looked good to me.

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 09:29 PM
What the hell?

Cloak
05-11-2018, 09:29 PM
This team just likes extra innings. I think we score in the 9th with a big hit from Mac

msstate7
05-11-2018, 09:30 PM
Self was great. He did pitch Wednesday too though... no problem pulling him even if we get blasted here. My eye is on next season

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 09:30 PM
This team just likes extra innings. I think we score in the 9th with a big hit from Mac

We just put Breaux in with one out and the top of their order coming up. There’s a high probability they score here.

maroonmania
05-11-2018, 09:31 PM
Breaux? Dang, when was the last time he pitched?

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 09:32 PM
Self was great. He did pitch Wednesday too though... no problem pulling him even if we get blasted here. My eye is on next season

Sure but putting in Breaux? That is Hendersoning at its finest.

maroonmania
05-11-2018, 09:32 PM
We just put Breaux in with one out and the top of their order coming up. There’s a high probability they score here.

Exactly my thoughts. He walks the first hitter.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 09:32 PM
If you have James ready, why breaux at all?

whosyourdawgy
05-11-2018, 09:33 PM
Brought him in to throw 3 breaking ball strikes. He threw 2. Now Keegan. Cross your fingers

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 09:33 PM
If you have James ready, why breaux at all?

Hen-der-son-ing. Need we say more?

Todd4State
05-11-2018, 09:35 PM
If you have James ready, why breaux at all?

Henderson- match-ups. #Hendersoning

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 09:36 PM
Mr No Range at SS

ATTILLA THE DOG
05-11-2018, 09:36 PM
alexander again

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 09:37 PM
And here’s the big picture question. Why take out Self?

whosyourdawgy
05-11-2018, 09:38 PM
Welp. Keegan James hasn’t done DICK all season.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 09:38 PM
Ball game. /season

maroonmania
05-11-2018, 09:38 PM
Well, there goes the ball game.

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 09:39 PM
Done

Cooterpoot
05-11-2018, 09:39 PM
Gary Henderson is the worst 17ing coach in the history of coaching. It?s like he?s intentionally throwing games.

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 09:40 PM
Why do we want this team to make postseason? The quicker Henderson is let go the better imo.

whosyourdawgy
05-11-2018, 09:40 PM
Season? Come on now. I will say this. When Keegan comes in I hsve ZERO confidence he’s gonna even get an out

HoopsDawg
05-11-2018, 09:40 PM
Breaux? Dang, when was the last time he pitched?

What a reckless decision to pitch Breaux in that spot.

whosyourdawgy
05-11-2018, 09:41 PM
Why do we want this team to make postseason? The quicker Henderson is let go the better imo.

Because Mangum Stovall and Pilk deserve to go out making the post season

BuckyIsAB****
05-11-2018, 09:41 PM
Henderson really flubbed the dub there.

Good thing is I think we make the tourney

Cooterpoot
05-11-2018, 09:42 PM
Why do all the KY women have Adam’s apples?

msstate7
05-11-2018, 09:42 PM
Season? Come on now. I will say this. When Keegan comes in I hsve ZERO confidence he’s gonna even get an out

To make postseason, we will need 3 of 5 vs Kentucky and Florida. Not impossible, but highly unlikely imo

msstate7
05-11-2018, 09:43 PM
Why do we want this team to make postseason? The quicker Henderson is let go the better imo.

I want postseason. I don't want it if it means being reckless with self though. No problem pulling him

Homedawg
05-11-2018, 09:43 PM
And here’s the big picture question. Why take out Self?

I think that's pretty easy, he hasn't pitched much. Had a limit an he met it. Not difficult to understand. At least that part.

HoopsDawg
05-11-2018, 09:43 PM
Henderson really flubbed the dub there.

Good thing is I think we make the tourney

Bottom line 6 runs has to be enough for Pilk. As for making the tournament, still some work to be done. Right now I would say no.

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 09:45 PM
Offense did their part tonight.

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 09:48 PM
I think that's pretty easy, he hasn't pitched much. Had a limit an he met it. Not difficult to understand. At least that part.

Was he on a pitch count though or was Hederson just trying to have Pompei hit from the right side? He had retired eight in a row and was cruising. He only had two more outs to get and he gave us the best chance to get out of the eighth a 7-6 game. If we tie it or go ahead, you can bring in Smith to close it in the ninth. This isn?t rocket science. This was another big game Henderson blew.

HoopsDawg
05-11-2018, 09:48 PM
So crazy that we went with Breaux and James down 1 in the 8th.

Todd4State
05-11-2018, 09:49 PM
Why do we want this team to make postseason? The quicker Henderson is let go the better imo.

Because it's good for MSU baseball. My biggest fear is that we would have a disaster of a season like 2010 and it would scare away candidates. At least that didn't happen because even if we crap out 27-28 is good enough to not scare away people. And heck- I would be fine calling up MVSU or someone to get us to 28 just so we can have a .500 season in the event that it's completely obvious that we aren't going to the postseason.

Cooterpoot
05-11-2018, 09:50 PM
Henderson left Pilk in two runs too long and then gave them 2 more with his stupid pitching change.

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 09:50 PM
So crazy that we went with Breaux and James down 1 in the 8th.

Those are the types of decisions we should be used to by now with Henderson.

whosyourdawgy
05-11-2018, 09:52 PM
That little bastard can fly

msstate7
05-11-2018, 09:52 PM
We have scored 6 runs, so I'm not blaming the offense. I do think our approach has been sorta poor since the 5th inning... lots of early count swings when we should look at a few more pitches. Like here, why is Alexander swinging in 0-0 count down 3?

MarketingBully
05-11-2018, 09:53 PM
Because it's good for MSU baseball. My biggest fear is that we would have a disaster of a season like 2010 and it would scare away candidates. At least that didn't happen because even if we crap out 27-28 is good enough to not scare away people. And heck- I would be fine calling up MVSU or someone to get us to 28 just so we can have a .500 season in the event that it's completely obvious that we aren't going to the postseason.

I get it. It’s good for our freshmen and a good reward for our upperclassmen. But as long as Henderson is at the helm, we have no chance.

msstate7
05-11-2018, 09:53 PM
Sigh... 9th inning down 3, we have 2 1st pitch outs

The Federalist Engineer
05-11-2018, 09:55 PM
If you have James ready, why breaux at all?

kJ has given up 10 runs and 11 hits in his last 3 innings pitched - something is wrong

msstate7
05-11-2018, 09:56 PM
kJ has given up 10 runs and 11 hits in his last 3 innings pitched - something is wrong

Ouch

msstate7
05-11-2018, 09:57 PM
Pilk lost this game. He just isn't getting it done

Todd4State
05-11-2018, 09:58 PM
kJ has given up 10 runs and 11 hits in his last 3 innings pitched - something is wrong

And we keep trotting his ass out there....

Honestly when I have seen him pitch lately he looks tired.

The Federalist Engineer
05-11-2018, 10:00 PM
Because it's good for MSU baseball. My biggest fear is that we would have a disaster of a season like 2010 and it would scare away candidates. At least that didn't happen because even if we crap out 27-28 is good enough to not scare away people. And heck- I would be fine calling up MVSU or someone to get us to 28 just so we can have a .500 season in the event that it's completely obvious that we aren't going to the postseason.

This

We are tanking seasons at a 50% rate per decade, if not for us fans and the stadium- our coaches and administrators would have already reduced MSU baseball to Bama Baseball levels. The only elite thing about MSU baseball are the fans. Great coach in June or Bust.

WeWonItAll(Most)
05-11-2018, 10:02 PM
Was he on a pitch count though or was Hederson just trying to have Pompei hit from the right side? He had retired eight in a row and was cruising. He only had two more outs to get and he gave us the best chance to get out of the eighth a 7-6 game. If we tie it or go ahead, you can bring in Smith to close it in the ninth. This isn?t rocket science. This was another big game Henderson blew.
He hasn't pitched much all season and pitched Wednesday. Extending him much past 46 pitches would have been reckless. I won't criticize Henderson for this decision.

Bulldog1
05-11-2018, 10:02 PM
Pilk lost this game. He just isn't getting it done

Yea, it's very troubling.

Todd4State
05-11-2018, 10:03 PM
This

We are tanking seasons at a 50% rate per decade, if not for us fans and the stadium- our coaches and administrators would have already reduced MSU baseball to Bama Baseball levels. The only elite thing about MSU baseball are the fans. Great coach in June or Bust.

Yep. Time for Cohen to fix this shit for good. No more cutting corners and being cute with JUCO all-stars and up and coming inexperienced coaches.

Todd4State
05-11-2018, 10:05 PM
He hasn't pitched much all season and pitched Wednesday. Extending him much past 46 pitches would have been reckless. I won't criticize Henderson for this decision.

I don't have a problem with taking Self out. I do have a problem with who he put in based on the situation. Neff, Blake Smith, or heck even Cole Gordon would have been better options.

The Federalist Engineer
05-11-2018, 10:28 PM
Pilk not resting last summer probably dropped him from 1st round to 8th-to-12th round. He may have to come back to make a run at a top round.

Backspin
05-11-2018, 10:56 PM
Yep. Time for Cohen to fix this shit for good. No more cutting corners and being cute with JUCO all-stars and up and coming inexperienced coaches.

Talent is talent. Matters not that it?s JUCO or high school. Check Mike Helman?s numbers at Texas A&M. The best hitter in this conference and he?s a JUCO from Hutchinson CC. I watched that kid play last summer. Plus plus hit tool. Had 17 pitch AB against us. We have been spotty with signing high school talent and DEVELOPING that talent. Identifying talent and then DEVELOPING that talent is critical.

Todd4State
05-11-2018, 11:21 PM
Talent is talent. Matters not that it?s JUCO or high school. Check Mike Helman?s numbers at Texas A&M. The best hitter in this conference and he?s a JUCO from Hutchinson CC. I watched that kid play last summer. Plus plus hit tool. Had 17 pitch AB against us. We have been spotty with signing high school talent and DEVELOPING that talent. Identifying talent and then DEVELOPING that talent is critical.

We have had one All-American that played JUCO baseball before coming to MSU- Buck Showalter. The last MSU player to start out in JUCO come to MSU and make it to MLB- Bobby Thigpen.

We have done a MUCH better job of developing high school talent than we have trying to band aid our draft losses with JUCO players. There may be exceptions such as Helman- but they are rare and are exceptions. See Renfroe, Rooker, Dakota Hudson, Adam Frazier, Kendall Graveman and others. Our best players as far as the upperclassmen are the ones that we picked up from high schools.

Also the same studies that have shown that going to college gives you a better chance of making it to MLB have also shown that the path that is least likely to get you to MLB is through JUCO.

Todd4State
05-11-2018, 11:22 PM
Pilk not resting last summer probably dropped him from 1st round to 8th-to-12th round. He may have to come back to make a run at a top round.

If we were LSU his ass would definitely be coming back. I can't see him dropping past the fifth round.

Homedawg
05-11-2018, 11:54 PM
If we were LSU his ass would definitely be coming back. I can't see him dropping past the fifth round.

Combine these two post together and we have double stupid. He's not going in the 8th rd, and lsu wouldn't keep him either..with that said he's never pitching in the bigs

preachermatt83
05-12-2018, 12:08 AM
Henderson looks like he would rather be taking his afternoon nap. I bet his pulse rate is 3.

This made me laugh. That's hilarious.

BuckyIsAB****
05-12-2018, 12:16 AM
I think Pilk will be back if his grade really has dropped that far. Doesnt make sense to come out early if you are drafted out of the top 5 rounds.

mstatefan91
05-12-2018, 12:17 AM
I stick by my take that Luke might be the slowest short stop in the SEC. He lets a lot more balls by him/infield singles than I remember an MSU shortstop giving up in my lifetime.. Maybe I'm plain wrong.. but tonight was a prime example.

Much better at 3rd base

MaroonFlounder
05-12-2018, 12:23 AM
We have had one All-American that played JUCO baseball before coming to MSU- Buck Showalter. The last MSU player to start out in JUCO come to MSU and make it to MLB- Bobby Thigpen.

We have done a MUCH better job of developing high school talent than we have trying to band aid our draft losses with JUCO players. There may be exceptions such as Helman- but they are rare and are exceptions. See Renfroe, Rooker, Dakota Hudson, Adam Frazier, Kendall Graveman and others. Our best players as far as the upperclassmen are the ones that we picked up from high schools.

Also the same studies that have shown that going to college gives you a better chance of making it to MLB have also shown that the path that is least likely to get you to MLB is through JUCO.

Wasn’t Nate Lowe a JUCO?

I would take his bat in this lineup in a New York second. Go back and check out his numbers.

Todd4State
05-12-2018, 12:42 AM
Combine these two post together and we have double stupid. He's not going in the 8th rd, and lsu wouldn't keep him either..with that said he's never pitching in the bigs

Jared Poche disagrees with the LSU comment.