Looks like Pat Austin is leaving the staff for the NFL

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Bumphis maybe as a replacement?

[CadaverDawg]

Ouch, Pat was so instrumental in keeping the '18 class together. I'll forever be grateful for his effort on the trail. Best of luck to him

[Todd4State]

What team is he going to?

[Bulldog1]

So, it looks like J-Banks and Bumphis are candidates.

[Todd4State]

So, it looks like J-Banks and Bumphis are candidates.

I say hire them both unless there are restrictions and we can only hire one.

[preachermatt83]

Boobie!!!!!????

[jacksondawg]

What exactly are the responsibilities that are associated with his job? Like is it on-campus recruiting, off-campus recruiting or recruit evaluations, etc.

[BeardoMSU]

What exactly are the responsibilities that are associated with his job?

Whatever Hev didn't feel like doing (i.e., everything)***

[Todd4State]

What exactly are the responsibilities that are associated with his job? Like is it on-campus recruiting, off-campus recruiting or recruit evaluations, etc.

I think it's all of that and developing relationships with coaches and players around the state.

I envision it as they are the guys that a high school coach will call up and say "Hey, you need to look at this guy on my team" or "we played Central HS and they have this guy you need to look at".

[Todd4State]

Whatever Hev didn't feel like doing (i.e., everything)***

I have a feeling that the excuses that they came up with for Hev not calling recruits sounded a lot like lame excuses girls come up with for not dating a guy. "Yeah, uh....Hev has just been washing his hair a lot the past three months."

[Cooterpoot]

Hmmmmm.......

[Bully13]

So what will he be doing for a NFL team? Scouting college talent?

So now we have to replace Pat. Isn't this a position that requires salesmanship and experience in relationship building?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Grateful for Pat & how he held last year class together. Bump or Banks will do a great job.

[fader2103]

Seems like a well known HS coach might be a good fit for the job also. I mean in worked with Pat and Brad. Chris Chambless might should be considered or Beautiful Bobby Hall*

[Jack Lambert]

They have to have a college degree. Who does?

[Westdawg]

They have to have a college degree. Who does?

You actually must have a master's

[Ari Gold]

They have to have a college degree. Who does?

Bump has been with buffalo and now at Utah. So he will for sure have the qualifications
JB was hired by Starkville to help with the program there but not sure if he has the qualifications for the job at state yet .
Might be something he can get this summer if he needs to.

Just my opinion but I would hire Bump, he already has gotten his feet wet and should know the ropes. And I’m not against hiring both ..

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Boobie!!!!!????

Would be cool, but he's got to get his degree

[Cooterpoot]

I can't see us hiring Banks if that excludes us from being able to recruit Starkville.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I can't see us hiring Banks if that excludes us from being able to recruit Starkville.

Compliance is doing its due diligence on that exact deal right now. If he gets by that I think he'll be the guy. If not Bump will do a great job too.

[Bully13]

Compliance is doing its due diligence on that exact deal right now. If he gets by that I think he'll be the guy. If not Bump will do a great job too.

Not understanding the Starkville limitations. what's that all about? Banks being from the area or something? not getting that.

Also, doesn't this gig require big time sales skills and the ability to build relationships? If we are considering Banks, I'm assuming he's strong in those areas as well. I'm sure he knows a lot of folks down in MS.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Not understanding the Starkville limitations. what's that all about? Banks being from the area or something? not getting that.

Also, doesn't this gig require big time sales skills and the ability to build relationships? If we are considering Banks, I'm assuming he's strong in those areas as well. I'm sure he knows a lot of folks down in MS.

If you hire a coach for an off field position you can't recruit the school he came from for 2yrs.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

If you hire a coach for an off field position you can't recruit the school he came from for 2yrs.

That is my understanding also. Which would probably eliminate Jon Banks. I think the rule is to prevent a school from hiring a 5-star recruit's coach, then stashing him in an office job counting paperclips. You didn't want the employee, you only wanted the recruit. I think Banks was just hired at Starkville High.

Bumphis would probably do great for us.

[rcsteph1]

That is my understanding also. Which would probably eliminate Jon Banks. I think the rule is to prevent a school from hiring a 5-star recruit's coach, then stashing him in an office job counting paperclips. You didn't want the employee, you only wanted the recruit. I think Banks was just hired at Starkville High.

Bumphis would probably do great for us.

If Banks is the guy then the question would be could you get a waiver since he has not coached a game with Stark High.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

It's the NCAA so any such waver would take 6+months to get a response on

[msbulldog]

That is my understanding also. Which would probably eliminate Jon Banks. I think the rule is to prevent a school from hiring a 5-star recruit's coach, then stashing him in an office job counting paperclips. You didn't want the employee, you only wanted the recruit. I think Banks was just hired at Starkville High.

Bumphis would probably do great for us.

Certainly that is the logic behind the rule. Reference; Sean and Shay Patterson; Mitch Mustain and Gus Malzhan.

[Bully13]

Compliance is doing its due diligence on that exact deal right now. If he gets by that I think he'll be the guy. If not Bump will do a great job too.

Even if we lose the case on Banks, and he's the guy we want, certainly someone else on Joe's team could take over the SHS area, no?

[msbulldog]

Even if we lose the case on Banks, and he's the guy we want, certainly someone else on Joe's team could take over the SHS area, no?

Bully it might be good to have JB at SHS to counteract the OM influence.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Even if we lose the case on Banks, and he's the guy we want, certainly someone else on Joe's team could take over the SHS area, no?

Doesn't work like that

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Bully it might be good to have JB at SHS to counteract the OM influence.

There's no OM influence there. That was the previous staff.

[RocketDawg]

I can't see us hiring Banks if that excludes us from being able to recruit Starkville.

Why is that an issue?

Edit: I think it was answered later in the thread. I didn't know there was such a rule.

[Political Hack]

Thankfully this happened after NSD. Bump is probably more qualified, but either would be a good choice and loyal to State.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Should have the new guy in pretty soon.

[Bully13]

Doesn't work like that

I'm not understanding this. Are you saying that no school can recruit where their Director of Recruiting Communications/Recruiting Coordinator went to high school for 2 years? what is the purpose of that rule?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I'm not understanding this. Are you saying that no school can recruit where their Director of Recruiting Communications/Recruiting Coordinator went to high school for 2 years? what is the purpose of that rule?

To keep schools from hiring HS coaches as head of staples just to get a recruit.

[Bully13]

To keep schools from hiring HS coaches as head of staples just to get a recruit.

I got it. Maybe we will win the case since he's not a high school coach. He's currently listed as an unsigned free agent. NFL career over?

Chad Bumphis looks like he's got leadership and coaching skills. Would he be a better pick over Banks?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I got it. Maybe we will win the case since he's not a high school coach. He's currently listed as an unsigned free agent. NFL career over?

Chad Bumphis looks like he's got leadership and coaching skills. Would he be a better pick over Banks?

Banks was hired as a HS coach but we're working on something that may help us get him in that position.

[Todd4State]

To keep schools from hiring HS coaches as head of staples just to get a recruit.

Like Ole Miss?

It's amazing to me how many things that they dream up to get an "in" with a recruit that they want really, really, really, really, really, bad.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Like Ole Miss?

It's amazing to me how many things that they dream up to get an "in" with a recruit that they want really, really, really, really, really, bad.

It's actually smart & they don't have a patented to it. We've probably should've done more of it.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Where is Austin actually going? Seems odd for him to leave without any details.

[Bully13]

Where is Austin actually going? Seems odd for him to leave without any details.

I would guess to a NFL team to scout college talent. Do those positions pay more than what he was making here?