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msstate7
05-04-2018, 05:58 PM
Let's win this
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 06:02 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcYh07ZWkAE2U8h?format=jpg
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:06 PM
Nice AB, rowdey. Swing and miss 3 times
MaroonFlounder
05-04-2018, 06:09 PM
How does Alabama own the overall series record against us? That baffles me.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:10 PM
Come on pilk
Bully13
05-04-2018, 06:10 PM
We gotta get our MOJO back tonight and this weekend. Need to take this weekend series fosho.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:12 PM
We gotta get our MOJO back tonight and this weekend. Need to take this weekend series fosho.
2 out of 3 is a must. Lose this series, and it's over
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 06:16 PM
It's hard to even be interested anymore.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:17 PM
lol... I'll take it. That is outside. Hit the mit though
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:19 PM
Jake's reputation saved a run. Pilk has bases loaded, 1 out. Need a ground ball
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:21 PM
Grand slam... we down 4-0. Good thing our sec elite is on the mound
msbulldog
05-04-2018, 06:22 PM
WELL DAMN!
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 06:23 PM
OUTSTANDING!!! Already down 4-0. Didn't take long to get out of hand.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:23 PM
Pilk sec era is 4.79. He has faced 6 batters and given up 4 hits, 1 k, and a walk.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:24 PM
OUTSTANDING!!! Already down 4-0. Didn't take long to get out of hand.
Still arguing on pilk's greatness?
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:25 PM
7 batters = 4 h, 2 HBP, 1 k
msbulldog
05-04-2018, 06:25 PM
Damn, I wish somebody besides Eli Gold was doing play by play. Eli's voice grates on my nerves.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:26 PM
Damn, I wish somebody besides Eli Gold was doing play by play. Eli's voice grates on my nerves.
Kinda like it
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 06:26 PM
Still arguing on pilk's greatness?
If he pitches on Sunday, this wouldn't happen.
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 06:28 PM
Btw, you also said Pilk's numbers don't matter and it doesn't reflect how good he is.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:28 PM
If he pitches on Sunday, this wouldn't happen.
I'm not making excuses for him. Pilk should be better than he has performed this year. I don't think he has great stuff, but it is good enough to do much better vs sec teams than he has. Not sure what his deal is
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 06:31 PM
I'm not making excuses for him. Pilk should be better than he has performed this year. I don't think he has great stuff, but it is good enough to do much better vs sec teams than he has. Not sure what his deal is
I do agree he should be better, but I'm not going to sit here and say he sucks.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:31 PM
Btw, you also said Pilk's numbers don't matter and it doesn't reflect how good he is.
Huh? I've said all along this year that I'm not impressed with him stuff that much. He is upper 88-89 mostly early and mid 80s after 70 pitches. He essentially has to trick batters to get Ks. He leads sec is Ks looking.. he rarely gets swing and misses.
ETA... he's lost velocity since freshman year
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:32 PM
I do agree he should be better, but I'm not going to sit here and say he sucks.
Saying avg sec Friday night guy is hardly saying he sucks. He just is not elite
MaroonFlounder
05-04-2018, 06:32 PM
GS #2 coming up?
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:33 PM
GS #2 coming up?
Nope. Let's get em back. Settle in, pilk
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 06:33 PM
Saying avg sec Friday night guy is hardly saying he sucks. He just is not elite
Well, were did I say Pilk was great? I have argued with your stance on him being average for a Friday night starter- never one time have I said he was great.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:34 PM
Well, were did I say Pilk was great? I have argued with your stance on him being average for a Friday night starter- never one time have I said he was great.
The better than avg sec Friday night guys are elite... mize, Knight, singer, and Rolison
MaroonFlounder
05-04-2018, 06:35 PM
Rally Dawgs have their work cut out for them.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:35 PM
I'm pissed at the start, but I think we can come back. Bama is not good.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:37 PM
I look at it like this... 4 pitchers I mentioned are better than avg on Friday nights, 5-10 are avg (pilk is in this group), and 11-14 are below avg.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:40 PM
What a great AB by Gilbert
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 06:40 PM
The better than avg sec Friday night guys are elite... mize, Knight, singer, and Rolison
I would rate those guys in the elite, Pilkington in the above average. I would have tiers as- elite, above avg, avg, below avg.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:42 PM
I would rate those guys in the elite, Pilkington in the above average. I would have tiers as- elite, above avg, avg, below avg.
I guess we just arguing semantics then. I think pilk has underperformed this year, but I still put him in the 5-7 group of pitchers for sec Friday nights
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:44 PM
Nice answer from dawgs.
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 06:45 PM
Rolison is 2nd on OM's staff in walks with a 3.26 ERA. Might want to group him with Pilkington.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:47 PM
Rolison is 2nd on OM's staff in walks with a 3.26 ERA. Might want to group him with Pilkington.
11.13 k9 3.53 bb9
I can live with that
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 06:49 PM
11.13 k9 3.53 bb9
I can live with that
For comparisons sake, and out of curiosity, what is Pilk's?
BeardoMSU
05-04-2018, 06:49 PM
Dinger!
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 06:50 PM
In the midst of this argument, We take a 5-4 lead! Yea!
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:50 PM
Rowdey has the worst AB of the game, and then totally avenges himself. Dawgs 5-4.
MaroonFlounder
05-04-2018, 06:50 PM
Rowdy!
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:54 PM
For comparisons sake, and out of curiosity, what is Pilk's?
9.26 k9 1.85 bb9
Numbers look good, but it goes into the 7s k9 in sec play. Pilk had the best numbers in the country perhaps in OOC, but has been hit (hard at times) in the sec.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:56 PM
Stratton is not being treated well by my braves
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:57 PM
Atta boy, pilk... get ground balls
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 06:57 PM
9.26 k9 1.85 bb9
Numbers look good, but it goes into the 7s k9 in sec play. Pilk had the best numbers in the country perhaps in OOC, but has been hit (hard at times) in the sec.
So Rolison has 2 more K/9 but Pilk has 2 less BB/9.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 06:58 PM
Good inning, pilk. Get us to the 6th
msstate7
05-04-2018, 07:04 PM
So Rolison has 2 more K/9 but Pilk has 2 less BB/9.
In conference...
RR - 10.7 k9. 3.6 bb9
KP - 7.0 k9 2.6 bb9
Doesn't include tonight
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 07:08 PM
In conference...
RR - 10.7 k9. 3.6 bb9
KP - 7.0 k9 2.6 bb9
Doesn't include tonight
They are in the same group- above avg. If you say Rolison is in elite group, so is Pilk imo.
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 07:09 PM
Top 4 Up 5-4.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 07:13 PM
They are in the same group- above avg. If you say Rolison is in elite group, so is Pilk imo.
You could be right. Both are getting roughed up tonight
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 07:24 PM
Up 5-4 Top 5.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 07:29 PM
Nice play... good hustle pilk
ETA... may not stand up though
msstate7
05-04-2018, 07:44 PM
Big K by pilk
Saltydog
05-04-2018, 07:49 PM
pounded tonight.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 07:49 PM
Pilk gives up 3-run double. 7-5 bama... pilk out after 4.2
MarketingBully
05-04-2018, 07:49 PM
Big K by pilk
You were saying...
msstate7
05-04-2018, 07:50 PM
pounded tonight.
3rd round or so imo
MarketingBully
05-04-2018, 07:50 PM
Pilk gives up 3-run double. 7-5 bama... pilk out after 4.2
0-2 count HBP hurt like hell.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 07:50 PM
You were saying...
It was a big k. Unfortunately, it was followed by a free pass and a double
MarketingBully
05-04-2018, 07:55 PM
It was a big k. Unfortunately, it was followed by a free pass and a double
2 walks and 3 HBP is not your ace. He gave 5 free passes and all scored.
MaroonFlounder
05-04-2018, 07:56 PM
Keith Holcombe was a football commit for us once upon a time...until a Bama offer came.
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 07:56 PM
Well…… This is embarrassing.
Bully13
05-04-2018, 08:01 PM
Oh NO! We Suck uhGAIN!!!!v
MaroonFlounder
05-04-2018, 08:03 PM
TN is winning at UK.
This Bulldog team is still not guaranteed a spot in Hoover.
MarketingBully
05-04-2018, 08:15 PM
Where are they positioning Luke Alexander? He missed two slow rolling balls that went as base hits because he was positioned poorly and Alabama scored again because of it.
preachermatt83
05-04-2018, 08:20 PM
Whoever is shifting our players around has cost us 3 runs. Magnum playing normal depth gets to that 3run double and the last RBI basehit was a routine grounder to short if Belmont is not shaded over 5 steps.
preachermatt83
05-04-2018, 08:20 PM
Where are they positioning Luke Alexander? He missed two slow rolling balls that went as base hits because he was positioned poorly and Alabama scored again because of it.
This^^
msstate7
05-04-2018, 08:26 PM
MLB teams have analytic depts that are very smart and spend countless hours scouting opponents. MLB teams know how to shift. College staffs do not have the manpower to figure out shifting... probably best to not overshift a lot
Lord McBuckethead
05-04-2018, 08:27 PM
Also the announcers went two entire batters without mentioning who was at bat and what the count was.
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 08:28 PM
I don't trust this staff to give any analytical orders.
MarketingBully
05-04-2018, 08:28 PM
MLB teams have analytic depts that are very smart and spend countless hours scouting opponents. MLB teams know how to shift. College staffs do not have the manpower to figure out shifting... probably best to not overshift a lot
Hendersoning...I’ll be so glad when this shit is over.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 08:29 PM
Also the announcers went two entire batters without mentioning who was at bat and what the count was.
To be fair, they want this season over as bad as me.
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 08:31 PM
Hendersoning...I’ll be so glad when this shit is over.
Lol, I hear you. It's about to be over for me. He is this one of this team's MAJOR problems.
MarketingBully
05-04-2018, 08:41 PM
Every coach should be house cleaned when we get our new coach. This is embarrassing 11-5 Alabama.
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 08:45 PM
Every coach should be house cleaned when we get our new coach. This is embarrassing 11-5 Alabama.
Dang. I'm sitting here having a meltdown over the Braves, I forgot about Ms State getting crushed. What a bad night for my teams!
MaroonFlounder
05-04-2018, 08:52 PM
Ole Piss is getting raped by the cocks....so there’s that. :rolleyes:
Quaoarsking
05-04-2018, 08:55 PM
We got a game again!
msstate7
05-04-2018, 08:57 PM
We got a game again!
Yes we do. Bama is really bad
MaroonFlounder
05-04-2018, 08:58 PM
What happened?
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 08:59 PM
Down 11-8, we have bases loaded no outs!
msstate7
05-04-2018, 08:59 PM
What happened?
11-8 bama t8 bases loaded 0 outs
Bully13
05-04-2018, 09:01 PM
all I know from Fort Worth is that is that our pitching has sucked ass.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 09:01 PM
Get smith ready
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 09:01 PM
11-10. 2nd and 3rd no outs.
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 09:02 PM
TIED GAME!!!
msstate7
05-04-2018, 09:03 PM
Great comeback. Please finish this, pitching staff
Bully13
05-04-2018, 09:03 PM
Ok, live stats say we've tied it 11-11 . oh , now we're up 12-11. wtf. let's just win. score more . wtf.
MarketingBully
05-04-2018, 09:05 PM
7 run inning to take the lead 12-11. Wow!
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 09:06 PM
Let's keep them from scoring in these last 2 innings.
The Federalist Engineer
05-04-2018, 09:07 PM
I feel like the only living guy in Jonestown after all the kool-aid was drank- but this game will pivot on who finds a way to lose last
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 09:07 PM
Credit to our players. They never quit!
The Federalist Engineer
05-04-2018, 09:08 PM
Credit to our players. They never quit!
True that...but Bama also sucks
msstate7
05-04-2018, 09:09 PM
Gotta make that play, alexander. Ruled a hit, but gotta get that out
Pit Bull
05-04-2018, 09:10 PM
Dont think one run lead will gitter done.
I seen it dawg
05-04-2018, 09:10 PM
Gotta make that play, alexander. Ruled a hit, but gotta get that out
Yes
I seen it dawg
05-04-2018, 09:11 PM
We are ****ed
msstate7
05-04-2018, 09:11 PM
Gotta put that in your pocket, foscue
MaroonFlounder
05-04-2018, 09:12 PM
They do better when I don’t watch. Y’all keep updating.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 09:12 PM
We are ****ed
We refuse to succeed
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 09:13 PM
We can't hold them.
I seen it dawg
05-04-2018, 09:13 PM
,gonna roll 2
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 09:14 PM
I don't think we're winning.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 09:16 PM
6-4-3 or 4-6-3 please
I seen it dawg
05-04-2018, 09:19 PM
**** yeah
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 09:21 PM
Let's score right here.
Quaoarsking
05-04-2018, 09:22 PM
Can't believe we got out of that just giving up 1 run
msstate7
05-04-2018, 09:22 PM
Outstanding, France
I seen it dawg
05-04-2018, 09:24 PM
Get one and finish this
msstate7
05-04-2018, 09:27 PM
Y'all remember the 15 inning or whatever game last year vs bama? Think we do it again?
I seen it dawg
05-04-2018, 09:28 PM
Let's go ****
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 09:29 PM
Middle 9th. Tied 12-12. Got to hold them here.
I seen it dawg
05-04-2018, 09:37 PM
Well neff is loose. Means loss
msstate7
05-04-2018, 09:37 PM
Defense letting us down
I seen it dawg
05-04-2018, 09:38 PM
Wtf Allen. Doesn't ever get in front of shit,goddammit
msstate7
05-04-2018, 09:38 PM
Always wondered why catcher holds arm out on intentional walk. Does pitcher just like a target to throw to?
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 09:39 PM
Balk. I'm going by live stats. Was it legit?
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 09:41 PM
Bases loaded. We HAVE to get this guy out.
I seen it dawg
05-04-2018, 09:42 PM
Lol,seriously
I seen it dawg
05-04-2018, 09:42 PM
Balk. I'm going by live stats. Was it legit?
Yes. Guy couldn't come set. Little league shit
msstate7
05-04-2018, 09:43 PM
Welp... this could be it
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 09:43 PM
Here comes Neff.
I seen it dawg
05-04-2018, 09:43 PM
Always wondered why catcher holds arm out on intentional walk. Does pitcher just like a target to throw to?
That's baseball
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 09:43 PM
Yes. Guy couldn't come set. Little league shit
That's ridiculous.
I seen it dawg
05-04-2018, 09:44 PM
Well muther****. We pitch our Sunday starter for,45 and pull him
msstate7
05-04-2018, 09:45 PM
Not sure we should IBB walk guys with our control problems
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 09:46 PM
Whew... got to score here.
I seen it dawg
05-04-2018, 09:47 PM
Left on right
msstate7
05-04-2018, 09:47 PM
Neff does great job there
I seen it dawg
05-04-2018, 09:47 PM
Not sure we should IBB walk guys with our control problems
Thats ok
The Federalist Engineer
05-04-2018, 09:47 PM
Well muther****. We pitch our Sunday starter for,45 and pull him
We will need some innings from Small tomorrow cause we used up France and James today .... maybe also Neff if this games goes long
Leroy Jenkins
05-04-2018, 09:51 PM
Balk. I'm going by live stats. Was it legit?
He dropped the ball into his glove, so then had to go back into the glove to catch the fumbled ball..... balk.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 09:54 PM
Macnamee is a terribly slow starter. He has stunk for 2/3 and then got on fire at the end of both seasons here
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 09:56 PM
YEAHHHHHHH
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 09:57 PM
That's why Foscue should play every game.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 09:57 PM
Foscue is gonna be the next renfroe, rooker type player here
I seen it dawg
05-04-2018, 09:58 PM
**** yeah freshman
BeardoMSU
05-04-2018, 09:59 PM
Dinger!
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 09:59 PM
Let's hold them. I think we will.
I seen it dawg
05-04-2018, 10:00 PM
Great AB Mangum. Wtf
I seen it dawg
05-04-2018, 10:01 PM
Well let's go neff
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 10:03 PM
Lead off single. Uh oh.
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 10:05 PM
Wild pitch.
I seen it dawg
05-04-2018, 10:07 PM
No one makes out catchers work
The Federalist Engineer
05-04-2018, 10:09 PM
Now we hit a dude, 6th hit batsman of the day
I seen it dawg
05-04-2018, 10:10 PM
We are so ****ing predictable. Ridiculous
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 10:10 PM
Ballgame!!!
The Federalist Engineer
05-04-2018, 10:10 PM
Double Play - Stovall! Final!
Christians 14 Infadels 12
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 10:11 PM
Line out double play to end the game. We win 14-12 in 10 innings.
VandelayIndustries
05-04-2018, 10:11 PM
Never in doubt fellas
I seen it dawg
05-04-2018, 10:11 PM
Loll good win
msstate7
05-04-2018, 10:11 PM
We survive. Get another one tomorrow. Good win
Percho
05-04-2018, 10:12 PM
That's Baseball!
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 10:12 PM
Hope Small is strong tomorrow. What time is the game?
mstatefan91
05-04-2018, 10:14 PM
That was one of the most bizarre games I’ve watched this year.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 10:14 PM
Hope Small is strong tomorrow. What time is the game?
6
The Federalist Engineer
05-04-2018, 10:14 PM
We burned France and James from the Pen - Neff only throws 19 pitches, so could be back on Sunday
Alabama burns Medders (their best reliever) - Duarte only throws 19 pitches also (Bama's #2 reliever)
MarketingBully
05-04-2018, 10:15 PM
I’ll take the win but Henderson is the biggest idiot coach I have ever seen. Ump gives you six inches off the outside part of the plate and what do we do? Pitch inside to the tune of six hit batters and five of those guys scored.
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 10:15 PM
6
Thanks.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 10:16 PM
We burned France and James from the Pen - Neff only throws 19 pitches, so could be back on Sunday
Alabama burns Medders (their best reliever) - Duarte only throws 19 pitches also (Bama's #2 reliever)
Sunday game could be really ugly for both teams
Dawgology
05-04-2018, 10:17 PM
That was a close one but much needed. Hail State
MarketingBully
05-04-2018, 10:18 PM
We burned France and James from the Pen - Neff only throws 19 pitches, so could be back on Sunday
Alabama burns Medders (their best reliever) - Duarte only throws 19 pitches also (Bama's #2 reliever)
Someone should tell Henderson if the ump gives you almost a full plate outside pitch outside. He was intentionally having our pitchers pitch inside as I watched our catcher crouch inside. Between the positioning and the pitch calling, Henderson about gave Alabama this game.
mstatefan91
05-04-2018, 10:18 PM
Sunday game could be really ugly for both teams
Uh 14-12 is pretty ugly lol
Bulldog1
05-04-2018, 10:19 PM
Sunday game could be really ugly for both teams
Well tomorrow won't be pretty either haha.
maroonmania
05-04-2018, 10:19 PM
Amazing we were able to score 14 runs on a night where Mangum was 0-5.
msstate7
05-04-2018, 10:20 PM
Uh 14-12 is pretty ugly lol
And both teams used one of their best starters and best relievers. Imagine when Gordon and their version of gordon get out there
msstate7
05-04-2018, 10:21 PM
Amazing we were able to score 14 runs on a night where Mangum was 0-5.
This offense has made amazing strides this year imo
mstatefan91
05-04-2018, 10:22 PM
And both teams used one of their best starters and best relievers. Imagine when Gordon and their version of gordon get out there
24-20 anybody? That’d be something
msstate7
05-04-2018, 10:23 PM
24-20 anybody? That’d be something
Probably be 2-1 haha
Cloak
05-04-2018, 10:30 PM
Line out double play to end the game. We win 14-12 in 10 innings.
Got on a flight and didn't buy the wifi because I thought it was a lost cause by the way the thread was talking. Landed to see us winning in 10... should of bought the damn wifi.
BeardoMSU
05-04-2018, 10:36 PM
Imagine when Gordon and their version of gordon get out there
https://media.giphy.com/media/iOXMcT2qEiIUg/giphy.gif
I seen it dawg
05-04-2018, 10:39 PM
Small wins tomorrow 3-0
mstatefan91
05-04-2018, 10:48 PM
Got on a flight and didn't buy the wifi because I thought it was a lost cause by the way the thread was talking. Landed to see us winning in 10... should of bought the damn wifi.
Nah don’t buy it. WiFi should be included
Todd4State
05-04-2018, 11:32 PM
Someone should tell Henderson if the ump gives you almost a full plate outside pitch outside. He was intentionally having our pitchers pitch inside as I watched our catcher crouch inside. Between the positioning and the pitch calling, Henderson about gave Alabama this game.
It's not a MSU baseball game if there isn't Hendersoning.
Unless it's the USM series and in that case it was sexting.
Bully13
05-05-2018, 06:40 AM
Someone should tell Henderson if the ump gives you almost a full plate outside pitch outside. He was intentionally having our pitchers pitch inside as I watched our catcher crouch inside. Between the positioning and the pitch calling, Henderson about gave Alabama this game.
I'm totally not understanding this especially since he's a pitching coach. just damn.
parabrave
05-05-2018, 09:56 AM
https://media.giphy.com/media/iOXMcT2qEiIUg/giphy.gif
1, 2, 4 no 3
The Federalist Engineer
05-05-2018, 10:08 AM
I'm totally not understanding this especially since he's a pitching coach. just damn.
Henderson seems overwhelmed in the post game interviews, like he watched a different game. To his credit, he sometimes asks Jim Ellis to remind him of the key play.
He needs to drink some of that ginseng B12 energy coffee. Or take some Vyvanse or Adderol pills. The coffee is probably cheaper.
tcdog70
05-05-2018, 10:11 AM
And both teams used one of their best starters and best relievers. Imagine when Gordon and their version of gordon get out there
You seem to forget that Gordon has pitched well on occasion. We would not have advance last year without him. He might fool you if given the opportunity. But you love some negativity.
msstate7
05-05-2018, 10:22 AM
You seem to forget that Gordon has pitched well on occasion. We would not have advance last year without him. He might fool you if given the opportunity. But you love some negativity.
Haha... Cole has given us some decent outings; but you know like I do, he is not one of our better relievers. His era is 5.34 and bb9 is 5.94
The Federalist Engineer
05-05-2018, 11:17 AM
Haha... Cole has given us some decent outings; but you know like I do, he is not one of our better relievers. His era is 5.34 and bb9 is 5.94
Cole is as reliable as JB, James, and almost France. Cole just needs clean starts so his 55 foot pitches don't move runners around.
All these guys can totally crap the bed on any given outing. At Mizzou, Cole gave us 6 big innings and it was leibelt and France that collapsed
There was an error but the bases were loaded at Mizzou
msstate7
05-05-2018, 11:28 AM
Cole is as reliable as JB, James, and almost France.
All these guys can totally crap the bed on any given outing.
Stats don't bear that out...
Cole...
5.34 era 1.53 whip 9.79 k9 5.93 bb9
JB...
4.62 era 1.51 whip 8.51 k9 4.93 bb9
James...
3.00 era 1.44 whip 9.00 k9 3.25 bb9
France...
3.21 era 1.36 whip 10.96 k9 3.74 bb9
France and James have been considerably better. Cole and JB's walk rate makes them borderline unusable... unfortunately, we have no choice but to use them
basedog
05-05-2018, 11:33 AM
And Bama isn't like the 61 Yankees, our pitching should be ok as well as our hitters! It's a must to win one more game but like Todd stated we almost need to sweep, get it done today and we all will fill better.
tcdog70
05-05-2018, 11:51 AM
Haha... Cole has given us some decent outings; but you know like I do, he is not one of our better relievers. His era is 5.34 and bb9 is 5.94
Wait, you go to stats to prove your point on Cole but not for Luke. Selective stat usage . Cole, is an easy read, when you bring Him in and the first few hitters light Him up, take Him out. but if He come in and gets on a role, He can be tough. We have no reliver that is that much better than Cole. I like Neff because he throws strikes.
msstate7
05-05-2018, 12:01 PM
Wait, you go to stats to prove your point on Cole but not for Luke. Selective stat usage . Cole, is an easy read, when you bring Him in and the first few hitters light Him up, take Him out. but if He come in and gets on a role, He can be tough. We have no reliver that is that much better than Cole. I like Neff because he throws strikes.
Luke is not a good hitter. His stats bear that our too. He is a glove first player with some pop, but a very poor hit tool. He isn't a liability if used correctly though... I think Henderson bats him way too high in the lineup. Let em hit 7th and swing for the fences
The Federalist Engineer
05-05-2018, 01:21 PM
Stats don't bear that out...
Cole...
5.34 era 1.53 whip 9.79 k9 5.93 bb9
JB...
4.62 era 1.51 whip 8.51 k9 4.93 bb9
James...
3.00 era 1.44 whip 9.00 k9 3.25 bb9
France...
3.21 era 1.36 whip 10.96 k9 3.74 bb9
France and James have been considerably better. Cole and JB's walk rate makes them borderline unusable... unfortunately, we have no choice but to use them
It's against message board rules but you look to be correct and I am wrong. MSU website is not giving me numbers, so I just surrender
But I think Cole can be used with a short leash and starting with clean start innings.
msstate7
05-05-2018, 01:41 PM
It's against message board rules but you look to be correct and I am wrong. MSU website is not giving me numbers, so I just surrender
But I think Cole can be used with a short leash and starting with clean start innings.
http://thebaseballcube.com/teams/stats.asp?Y=2018&T=20147
Here's a great site for baseball stats.
It's all subjective BTW. Everyone of their WHIPs is higher than you wold like, so not like any are slam dunks.
I seen it dawg
05-05-2018, 01:50 PM
http://thebaseballcube.com/teams/stats.asp?Y=2018&T=20147
Here's a great site for baseball stats.
It's all subjective BTW. Everyone of their WHIPs is higher than you wold like, so not like any are slam dunks.
Subjective is your middle name when using stats...
msstate7
05-05-2018, 01:52 PM
Subjective is your middle name when using stats...
To be fair, it's everyone's
I try to be not be; but like everyone, I like some players more than others and see what I want to see at times.
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