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Bulldog1
04-09-2018, 12:47 PM
I was listening to a baseball brodcast the other day, and they were pushing for robot umpires.
I think it is CRAZY. What do y’all think?

drummerdawg
04-09-2018, 12:49 PM
I think it would be great.

Bulldog1
04-09-2018, 12:56 PM
Also- Replay. It infuriates me to no end that even with replay, the umpires still make the wrong calls. Take Ozzie Albies play for example. He was safe. And for them to use the excuse “no clear evidence”, there was the same amount of evidence as there was when they overturned the call in the Rockies favor earlier in the game. If you’re going to have replay, get it right.
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TrapGame
04-09-2018, 01:53 PM
Sex robots and now robot umpires.

Martianlander
04-09-2018, 02:17 PM
Looks like they could set it up for the strike zone for sure. Now basketball, with the calls we get I'm all for robot refs.

Lord McBuckethead
04-09-2018, 02:17 PM
Wish they had robot refs in basketball.

Bulldog1
04-09-2018, 02:20 PM
Looks like they could set it up for the strike zone for sure. Now basketball, with the calls we get I'm all for robot refs.

One thing about them calling strikes is late breaking balls would be called balls. This happened in the Braves game the other day and Chip and Joe pointed that out.

Lord McBuckethead
04-09-2018, 02:23 PM
doesn't matter where the ball breaks, it only matters when it crosses the front edge of the plate. If they cannot get that right, then the robots need to stay in Trap Game's sex dungeon.

Bulldog1
04-09-2018, 02:24 PM
doesn't matter where the ball breaks, it only matters when it crosses the front edge of the plate. If they cannot get that right, then the robots need to stay in Trap Game's sex dungeon.

They literally had it on pitch tracker, when it crossed the plate down the middle.

sleepy dawg
04-09-2018, 06:04 PM
There is no doubt in my mind that a well programmed robot plate umpire could easily outperform the best human.

At least if the robot f*cked up the call, the player would be able to tell him he made a mistake without having to get ejected for it.

TaleofTwoDogs
04-09-2018, 06:28 PM
There is no doubt in my mind that a well programmed robot plate umpire could easily outperform the best human.

At least if the robot f*cked up the call, the player would be able to tell him he made a mistake without having to get ejected for it.

Or the batter can just beat the shit out of the robot with the bat and pay the fine.

Bulldog1
04-09-2018, 06:35 PM
Or the batter can just beat the shit out of the robot with the bat and pay the fine.

I like this idea.

Quaoarsking
04-09-2018, 08:00 PM
They should use the cameras (which are already set up) to call balls and strikes automatically, keep human umpires for everything else, and handle replays centrally so it can be all done in less than a minute.

Todd4State
04-09-2018, 11:56 PM
I like robot umpires for college baseball. Mainly because I'm pretty sure that would be the worst thing to happen to LSU baseball since Skip Bertman retired.

Seriously they do need it for the strike zone. The umpires in the SEC aren't good enough to handle the level of the players and they need help. Red light lights up- umpire calls a strike, green light umpire calls pitch a ball. Let the umpires call plays on the basepaths and everything else with the use of full replay.

Oddly enough it may help the players some too. If you swing at a pitch and the light is red, at least the hitter knows that he swung at a good pitch. And I think it helps the pitchers learn how to establish the strike zone. When the umpires are really inconsistent it's hard on everyone.

Dawg61
04-10-2018, 12:59 AM
I was listening to a baseball brodcast the other day, and they were pushing for robot umpires.
I think it is CRAZY. What do y’all think?

Robot umpires is the worst idea ever followed closely by instant replay. Imperfection in sport is necessary and entertaining.

Cooterpoot
04-10-2018, 03:48 AM
Sex robots and now robot umpires.

Either way you’re 17’d.

Duckdog
04-10-2018, 08:30 AM
this is dumb, human umpires and different strike zones is part of the freaking game

Bulldog1
04-10-2018, 08:30 AM
this is dumb, human umpires and different strike zones is part of the freaking game

Robot umpires is the worst idea ever followed closely by instant replay. Imperfection in sport is necessary and entertaining.


I agree.

Quaoarsking
04-10-2018, 08:39 AM
Robot umpires is the worst idea ever followed closely by instant replay. Imperfection in sport is necessary and entertaining.

That's the worst opinion I've ever read on this site, including the political board.

Bad calls destroy the integrity of the game and devalue the games and championships players and teams work their asses off to win. Getting every call correct and enforcing the rules properly and fairly is of the utmost importance.

Tbonewannabe
04-10-2018, 08:39 AM
this is dumb, human umpires and different strike zones is part of the freaking game

How about different strike zones for each team or strike zones that change during the game? Baseball sometimes suffers from the lack of consistency. It would be like sometimes football teams get 5 or 6 downs instead of 4. I am all for leaving umps but giving them another tool to call balls and strikes. With the speed and break of pitches, it isn't surprising when they get it wrong. It would take a lot of concentration for an ump to get all of the pitches correct.

They are talking about putting a chip in footballs to determine location and whether the ball breaks the plane of the endzone. I don't know why people would rather have the results inaccurate than lose the ref. With more accurate calling of games then the actual athletes would always determine the outcome of a game. Maybe I am the only one who doesn't like getting screwed when we play Bama in football.

sleepy dawg
04-10-2018, 09:19 AM
How about different strike zones for each team or strike zones that change during the game? Baseball sometimes suffers from the lack of consistency. It would be like sometimes football teams get 5 or 6 downs instead of 4. I am all for leaving umps but giving them another tool to call balls and strikes. With the speed and break of pitches, it isn't surprising when they get it wrong. It would take a lot of concentration for an ump to get all of the pitches correct.

They are talking about putting a chip in footballs to determine location and whether the ball breaks the plane of the endzone. I don't know why people would rather have the results inaccurate than lose the ref. With more accurate calling of games then the actual athletes would always determine the outcome of a game. Maybe I am the only one who doesn't like getting screwed when we play Bama in football.

People fear major changes.

Bulldog1
04-10-2018, 09:23 AM
That's the worst opinion I've ever read on this site, including the political board.

Bad calls destroy the integrity of the game and devalue the games and championships players and teams work their asses off to win. Getting every call correct and enforcing the rules properly and fairly is of the utmost importance.
Part of baseball is managers being tossed. And they can’t even get replay right, so it’s useless.

Dawg61
04-10-2018, 10:44 AM
That's the worst opinion I've ever read on this site, including the political board.

Bad calls destroy the integrity of the game and devalue the games and championships players and teams work their asses off to win. Getting every call correct and enforcing the rules properly and fairly is of the utmost importance.

Wrong. Working the umpire is part of the pitcher's job. Baseball is an imperfect sport. All sports are imperfect. It's the imperfections that make it perfect. Don't try to turn baseball into a computer program. It will be the death of baseball as we know it.

Duckdog
04-12-2018, 08:34 AM
Wrong. Working the umpire is part of the pitcher's job. Baseball is an imperfect sport. All sports are imperfect. It's the imperfections that make it perfect. Don't try to turn baseball into a computer program. It will be the death of baseball as we know it.
This fella gets it.

Tbonewannabe
04-12-2018, 08:43 AM
Wrong. Working the umpire is part of the pitcher's job. Baseball is an imperfect sport. All sports are imperfect. It's the imperfections that make it perfect. Don't try to turn baseball into a computer program. It will be the death of baseball as we know it.

So the guy who threw a perfect game but the first base umpire had a brain fart and called the guy safe on the last out makes the game better? It wasn't a bang bang play either. The batter was out by around 3 steps. I guess Morgan getting tackled with no foul which completely changed the flow of the National Title made the game better also?

I personally would prefer that the actual athletes determine who wins. It isn't very fun when one team gets an advantage from the refs/umps.

Bulldog1
04-12-2018, 09:24 AM
So the guy who threw a perfect game but the first base umpire had a brain fart and called the guy safe on the last out makes the game better? It wasn't a bang bang play either. The batter was out by around 3 steps. I guess Morgan getting tackled with no foul which completely changed the flow of the National Title made the game better also?

I personally would prefer that the actual athletes determine who wins. It isn't very fun when one team gets an advantage from the refs/umps.
They don't get replay right. What purpose does it serve?

Dawg61
04-12-2018, 12:25 PM
So the guy who threw a perfect game but the first base umpire had a brain fart and called the guy safe on the last out makes the game better? It wasn't a bang bang play either. The batter was out by around 3 steps. I guess Morgan getting tackled with no foul which completely changed the flow of the National Title made the game better also?

I personally would prefer that the actual athletes determine who wins. It isn't very fun when one team gets an advantage from the refs/umps.

That pitcher probably got 5-6 calls his way throughout the game because he was pitching so well that if hadn't gotten he wouldn't of had a perfect game anyways. Imperfection is entertaining. Perfection is boring.

dawgs
04-12-2018, 12:36 PM
Robot umpires make far more sense for baseball than any other sport. There shouldn't be judgment calls in baseball. You are either safe or out, the pitch either crosses the plate or it doesn't. In football, basketball, and soccer, there's far too much player to player contact for a robot to reasonably call fouls. Now I'd be fine with using technology to determine ball placement and crossing the plane in football and goals in soccer.

In theory I like replay for baseball, but I HATE that every slide is challenged and we are parsing our frames to see if a guy's foot bounced off the bag my a millimeter for a fraction of a second while the fielder is still applying the tag. It's bullshit and not the intent of the game or the implementation of replay. The physics of a guy sliding into a relatively hard bag at a high rate of speed means the runner's foot is going to bounce on contact going across the bag. This is very different from clearly sliding past the bag. We are talking plays that for 150 years, so one ever thought twice about being safe that are now swinging playoff series and that's bullshit.

Bulldog1
04-12-2018, 12:38 PM
The Braves were playing the other day, and an opposing pitcher threw a ball in the dirt, but FoxTracks had it as a strike. That is a con to the robot ump argument.

sleepy dawg
04-12-2018, 01:12 PM
Wrong. Working the umpire is part of the pitcher's job. Baseball is an imperfect sport. All sports are imperfect. It's the imperfections that make it perfect. Don't try to turn baseball into a computer program. It will be the death of baseball as we know it.

Baseball is already dying.

Jack Lambert
04-12-2018, 01:24 PM
Sex robots and now robot umpires.

All robot porn.

dawgs
04-12-2018, 01:55 PM
The Braves were playing the other day, and an opposing pitcher threw a ball in the dirt, but FoxTracks had it as a strike. That is a con to the robot ump argument.

Did it cross the front of the plate at the knee and hit the dirt before it got to the catcher? That's not all that uncommon for top notch MLB pitchers.

Dawg61
04-12-2018, 02:08 PM
Baseball is already dying.

Not with tv contracts it's not

Tbonewannabe
04-12-2018, 02:33 PM
That pitcher probably got 5-6 calls his way throughout the game because he was pitching so well that if hadn't gotten he wouldn't of had a perfect game anyways. Imperfection is entertaining. Perfection is boring.

I would rather the correct team win than it be more entertaining. I am not for anything other than 100% judgement calls. A team losing shouldn't hinge on the ump because they have zero control of that. I am sure a lot of Bulldogs would rather the correct call been made on the phantom holding call in the Egg Bowl in the 80s than saying "man, we just got screwed but it was more entertaining".

Bulldog1
04-12-2018, 03:17 PM
Did it cross the front of the plate at the knee and hit the dirt before it got to the catcher? That's not all that uncommon for top notch MLB pitchers.

No. It bounced to the plate.

Tbonewannabe
04-12-2018, 06:01 PM
No. It bounced to the plate.

That is why you keep the ump and let them use some type of pitch tracker.