State @ LSU game 3 thread

[Dawg61]

huge error by LSU top 1st

[msstate7]

Only huge if we score

[msstate7]

Stovall watching fastballs... swinging at breaking pitches

[Mutt the Hoople]

two on, no outs, no runs. What a bunch of foam-bats.

[Dawg61]

Good lawrd we score zero after a gift error. That's trash!

[VandelayIndustries]

Can we not hit curveballs? Holy shiit

[Bully13]

not only an error, but a lead off walk as well if I'm looking at live stats correctly.

[msstate7]

Hatcher Ks... no runs after 1st 2 reached. Here is a fun stat... our 4 and 5 hitters in sec play are hitting .156 with 8 k and .270 obp (Stovall) and .161 with 12 k and .235 obp (Hatcher). Of course all you hear about is Alexander sucking. Here are Alexander sec stats...

.278 ba
.316 obp
.417 slugging

Sec ops...

Stovall = .458
Hatcher = .396
Alexander = .733

Yeah, Alexander is the biggest issue on this team

[VandelayIndustries]

look at 2 fastballs down the middle, swing at the curveball in the dirt

[msstate7]

These 2 teams are horrible. LSU may be ranked, but make no mistake, they suck too

[Dawg61]

Idk what the score percentage is with 2 on 0 outs and your 3-5 hitters coming up but is probably over 90%

[Bully13]

Hatcher Ks... no runs after 1st 2 reached. Here is a fun stat... our 4 and 5 hitters in sec play are hitting .156 with 8 k and .270 obp (Stovall) and .161 with 12 k and .235 obp (Hatcher). Of course all you hear about is Alexander sucking. Here are Alexander sec stats...

.278 ba
.316 obp
.417 slugging

Sec ops...

Stovall = .458
Hatcher = .396
Alexander = .733

Yeah, Alexander is the biggest issue on this team

hey 7, what does "Sec ops..." stand for?

[msstate7]

If someone donated a $1 to world hunger for every JB walk, no one would ever go hungry again

[BuckyIsAB****]

Our offense is worse than a trip to the DMV.

[msstate7]

hey 7, what does "Sec ops..." stand for?

On base % + slugging %

Probably the best stat to determine a hitters value

[Bully13]

On base % + slugging %

Probably the best stat to determine a hitters value

gotcha. I can't believe our 4 & 5 hole hitters are sucking to that degree. wow.

[msstate7]

Alexander flashing leather

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Hatcher Ks... no runs after 1st 2 reached. Here is a fun stat... our 4 and 5 hitters in sec play are hitting .156 with 8 k and .270 obp (Stovall) and .161 with 12 k and .235 obp (Hatcher). Of course all you hear about is Alexander sucking. Here are Alexander sec stats...

.278 ba
.316 obp
.417 slugging

Sec ops...

Stovall = .458
Hatcher = .396
Alexander = .733

Yeah, Alexander is the biggest issue on this team

But this doesn't fit the agenda

[msstate7]

gotcha. I can't believe our 4 & 5 hole hitters are sucking to that degree. wow.

In college, .800 is good. Alexander .733 is not great by any means

[Goldendawg]

Just what baseball needed, video reviews to slow down the game more. Right up there with stepping out after every pitch to adjust your batting gloves or scratch an inch. JMO.

[Bully13]

lead off walk scores on a double. have we don't that this year? send someone home from first on a double? I know we get thrown out a lot on stupid base running this year though.

[Goldendawg]

BTW, these are my favorite uni's (also in white), pinstripes & MS logos with not a MState in sight. Hail State!

[Bully13]

what's being reviewed?

[Dawg61]

Just what baseball needed, video reviews to slow down the game more. Right up there with stepping out after every pitch to adjust your batting gloves or scratch an inch. JMO.

Replay is trash. I hate it for every sport. Much rather have imperfections with managers arguing and getting tossed in baseball.

[Goldendawg]

what's being reviewed?

LA's putout from deep behind second base.

[Dawg61]

BTW, these are my favorite uni's (also in white), pinstripes & MS logos with not a MState in sight. Hail State!

Agreed. Love these unis. We need a black & white one (Yankees) and a green & white one for St. Patty's day.

[Bully13]

LA's putout from deep behind second base.

looks like it went in our favor. Mangum's on 2nd with one out. can you describe the play that got reviewed though?

[Bully13]

shit Tanner

[VandelayIndustries]

This guy should just throw all curveballs

[preachermatt83]

Tanner Allen is absolutely clueless at the plate

[Dawg61]

We are a women's basketball school

[Goldendawg]

looks like it went in our favor. Mangum's on 2nd with one out. can you describe the play that got reviewed though?

Ground ball up the middle, LA fields about behind 2nd and actually falls on the 1st base side of the 2nd base bag after making the throw to 1st. Ump calls out at 1st and looked out, but umps go to video. I think they said each team has 2 video challenges before the 7th inning. Someone else here probably knows the rule.

[Dawg61]

He was safe, gift right there (not talking about the reviewed play)

[Coach34]

Foambat is now 10/38 in SEC play- .263....and .243 on the season- 7th on the team. For a junior that is supposed to be a leader and one of our best players- thats a problem

[Bully13]

Foambat is now 10/38 in SEC play- .263....and .243 on the season- 7th on the team. For a junior that is supposed to be a leader and one of our best players- thats a problem

but check out where our 4 and 5 hole hitters are in SEC play. LA at least is improving since SEC play started.

[Coach34]

but check out where our 4 and 5 hole hitters are in SEC play. LA at least is improving since SEC play started.

Stovall is not a 4-hole hitter and Hatcher is a baby.

[Dawg61]

JB throwing well

[I seen it dawg]

Hatcher Ks... no runs after 1st 2 reached. Here is a fun stat... our 4 and 5 hitters in sec play are hitting .156 with 8 k and .270 obp (Stovall) and .161 with 12 k and .235 obp (Hatcher). Of course all you hear about is Alexander sucking. Here are Alexander sec stats...

.278 ba
.316 obp
.417 slugging

Sec ops...

Stovall = .458
Hatcher = .396
Alexander = .733

Yeah, Alexander is the biggest issue on this team

You give Foambat too much credit as usual. He’s not the biggest issue.

[Dawg61]

Wow go ahead Skelton!!

[Bully13]

Wow go ahead Skelton!!

nice catch on the bunt by the catcher? lead off double now with 2 outs and still on 2nd.

[I seen it dawg]

Really good play by Foscue to close the 5th still down 1-0. Still inexplicable why he disappeared for 2 weeks.

[msstate7]

Atta boy, hunter. Get em in Hatcher

[msstate7]

Gotta have you mac

[msstate7]

Strike out looking. Wow

[VandelayIndustries]

Pathetic. Get the freaking bat off your shoulder

[maroonwhitedawg3ddd]

17 ing pitiful bases loaded don't even swing at three strikes !!! JEEZ!!!

[Leeshouldveflanked]

What a puss at bat.

[Cloak]

Strike out looking. Wow

This team is too soft. Mac would rather luck into a walk there than get a big time hit. Three breaking balls down the middle of the plate and he doesn't swing once

[MarketingBully]

The ump was pathetic on that at bat by MacNamee. What were balls earlier were called strikes in that at bat. ****ing ump be consistent.

[MarketingBully]

This team is too soft. Mac would rather luck into a walk there than get a big time hit. Three breaking balls down the middle of the plate and he doesn't swing once

Two of those three were balls high on previous at bats.

[Cloak]

Two of those three were balls high on previous at bats.

I'll agree at the inconsistency of calls, but Mac needs to get the damn bat off his shoulder there. Too big of a spot to leave it to an inconsistent ump

[preachermatt83]

Billingsly is dealing and we can't even score a single run.

[msstate7]

Very nice game by JB. Only 2 walks... if he throws strikes, he is a handful. Walks are the only thing holding him back

[MarketingBully]

I'll agree at the inconsistency of calls, but Mac needs to get the damn bat off his shoulder there. Too big of a spot to leave it to an inconsistent ump

I agree with that but my point remains. The ump bailed that pitcher out with inconsistent calls. The bases wouldn’t have been loaded had he called those strikes that whole inning.

[MarketingBully]

Very nice game by JB. Only 2 walks... if he throws strikes, he is a handful. Walks are the only thing holding him back

That five pitch walk was the killer though. The next batter doubled and hit him in.

[VandelayIndustries]

Moar K's looking

[I seen it dawg]

We aren’t winning anything and I like Poole but he should only play as a defensive replacement. Poole Mcnamee and Vansau should not be getting majority of playing time ove the freshman.

[I seen it dawg]

Chance here for Foambat to do something

[msstate7]

Chance here for Foambat to do something

Looking at live stats... flyball to rf. Lazy fly?

[MarketingBully]

Isn’t your best hitter supposed to hit second? That’s where we had Rooker last year. Why is Luke Alexander hitting second? I really don’t understand this lineup. Henderson is horrifyingly bad at his lineup and lineup order.

[Cloak]

Looking at live stats... flyball to rf. Lazy fly?



Kind of a dying blooper line drive

[I seen it dawg]

Flush his .763 ops down the ****ing toilet

[preachermatt83]

There is no doubt there are kids out there in junior high that can hit better than most of our players

[MarketingBully]

We aren’t winning anything and I like Poole but he should only play as a defensive replacement. Poole Mcnamee and Vansau should not be getting majority of playing time ove the freshman.

Why isn’t Jordan Anderson playing?

[I seen it dawg]

Foambat is an 8hole hitter in any normal lineup.

[I seen it dawg]

Why isn’t Jordan Anderson playing?

Great question. He looked the part at least the other night when he got an AB.

[Coach34]

Foambat is now 6/28 in the last 2 SEC series- .214

[msstate7]

Isn’t your best hitter supposed to hit second? That’s where we had Rooker last year. Why is Luke Alexander hitting second? I really don’t understand this lineup. Henderson is horrifyingly bad at his lineup and lineup order.

I like Alexander, but hate him hitting 2nd. Unfortunately, we have 1 good hitter (Jake). The rest are below avg for sec guys

[MarketingBully]

Play Anderson instead of Poole. Asshole Henderson killing us. I just hope no freshmen transfer because of how Henderson ran things. I hope they give the new coach a chance and look at it as a reset.

[VandelayIndustries]

Yep Poole should not be playing at all. I don't get it

[preachermatt83]

We do some odd stuff.

[MarketingBully]

Yep Poole should not be playing at all. I don't get it

Poole, Vansau, and Macnamee should not be playing over any of the freshmen. Any coach worth their salt at this point would be going with youth over underperforming seniors. But because Henderson won’t be coach here next year he’s kind of screwing us up regarding what would be a good play in playing the freshmen.

[msstate7]

France has been great vs LSU his whole career. We go neff... LSU goes yard. Game ova

[VandelayIndustries]

Solid move Henderson

[preachermatt83]

Great call henderson. You goon.

[Bulldog1]

Down 3-0 after LSU 2 run homer.

[MarketingBully]

France has been great vs LSU his whole career. We go neff... LSU goes yard. Game ova

Yeah. He’s sucking in pitching moves today too. I’m done with Henderson period. He needs to just go away and never come back.

[I seen it dawg]

Is Barlow hurt? Did i just miss it...

[I seen it dawg]

It’s left on left so i don’t hate going to Neff but where is Barlow and Breaux?

[Todd4State]

Is Barlow hurt? Did i just miss it...

He has been.

[Todd4State]

Poole, Vansau, and Macnamee should not be playing over any of the freshmen. Any coach worth their salt at this point would be going with youth over underperforming seniors. But because Henderson won’t be coach here next year he’s kind of screwing us up regarding what would be a good play in playing the freshmen.

Why would the freshmen transfer knowing that Henderson won't be back next year? If anything I would be looking forward to coming back.

And agree with the people that Jordan Anderson should be playing more.

[msstate7]

Is Barlow hurt? Did i just miss it...

He has not thrown in an sec game all year. Pretty sure he is injured or not fully healthy

[I seen it dawg]

Great outing neff

[confucius say]

So with games on the line this weekend we turn to neff and leibelt instead Blake smith or France? Am I in the 17in twilight zone? Damn Hindu. This is not mlb baseball where you can always match lefty-lefty you dumb17.

Henderson is going to give me a damn stroke.

[BuckyIsAB****]

So with games on the line rf is weekend we turn to neff and leibelt instead Blake smith or France? Am I in the 17in twilight zone? Damn Hindu. This is not mlb baseball where you can always match lefty-lefty you dumb17.

Henderson is going to give me a damn stroke.

Just chalk this season up, he already has. I feel bad for our pitchers

[MarketingBully]

Just chalk this season up, he already has. I feel bad for our pitchers

He’s just collecting a pay check. That’s it.

[I seen it dawg]

France doing what he does. Great job henderson you ****tard

[MarketingBully]

Why would the freshmen transfer knowing that Henderson won't be back next year? If anything I would be looking forward to coming back.

And agree with the people that Jordan Anderson should be playing more.

Because kids are kids. Whoever the new coach is, I want them to bring whoever they want and just flush out all of the old guard. I want the new coach to have full autonomy to build it however they want. Henderson’s last day to put on a State uniform should be the final regular season game this year.

[Bully13]

we're going to go from Reg Season SEC champs to not making the tourney.

[HoopsDawg]

not trying to be mean, but WHAT THE FCK ARE YOU DOING HENDERSON BRINGING IN NEFF OVER FRANCE?!?!?!!?!

[Dawg61]

not trying to be mean, but WHAT THE FCK ARE YOU DOING HENDERSON BRINGING IN NEFF OVER FRANCE?!?!?!!?!

No please be mean our baseball program is a disaster

[HoopsDawg]

Is there a single person on this board or on the team that wants to see Tanner Poole's bat over Jordan Westburg. Why the hell can't Henderson figure out how to get Foscue and Westburg's bat in the lineup.

[HoopsDawg]

No please be mean our baseball program is a disaster

I'm sure people in this thread have already made that comment but I was listening in my car and I couldn't believe we didn't bring in France. What a horrible decision.

[HoopsDawg]

Now would be a good time to bring in Blake Smith or are we saving him for next weekend?

[Bully13]

welp, guess we'll be needing a 4 run rally at the top of the 9th .

[Todd4State]

Because kids are kids. Whoever the new coach is, I want them to bring whoever they want and just flush out all of the old guard. I want the new coach to have full autonomy to build it however they want. Henderson’s last day to put on a State uniform should be the final regular season game this year.

If anything I think Cohen may be giving our baseball coaches too much autonomy. In the long run that is probably a good thing because there is the concern that since he was a successful baseball coach himself that he could meddle with the program and interfere. And we all saw how Polk tried to control things from afar and that was not good either.

That said if I'm the coach I cut Vansau and MacNamee. They're not SEC players. If I do keep them I don't start them. And with the new freshmen catchers coming in I cut either Gilbert or Skelton. Poole graduates so problem solved there.

[confucius say]

Is there a single person on this board or on the team that wants to see Tanner Poole's bat over Jordan Westburg. Why the hell can't Henderson figure out how to get Foscue and Westburg's bat in the lineup.

Bc he is either dumb as shit or does not have a clue what the 17 has been going on offensively for the last 9 months. Maybe he is banging LB too.

[HoopsDawg]

Time to go with the freshman:

1. Mangum, CF
2. Allen, LF
3. Hatcher, 1B
4. Foscue, 3B
5. Westburg, DH
6. Stovall, C
7. LA, SS
8. Rowdey, 2B
9. Jordan Anderson, RF

[confucius say]

Hindu is bad for my health. I shouldnt be having these kind of thoughts on Easter weekend.

[I seen it dawg]

Can we send anyone to hit for ****ing Skelton down 4 in the 9th. ****.

[confucius say]

Time to go with the freshman:

1. Mangum, CF
2. Allen, LF
3. Hatcher, 1B
4. Foscue, 3B
5. Westburg, DH
6. Stovall, C
7. LA, SS
8. Rowdey, 2B
9. Jordan Anderson, RF

Might as well. Cant be worse. We just scored 5 runs the whole weekend against a solid but not great pitching staff.

[preachermatt83]

Henderson is not the dumb. Can't be. He has got to be doing this crap on purpose because he knows he ain't getting this job. I know it sounds crazy but good grief he can't really be this clueless

[Bully13]

Henderson is not the dumb. Can't be. He has got to be doing this crap on purpose because he knows he ain't getting this job. I know it sounds crazy but good grief he can't really be this clueless

I'm almost starting to believe this Preach.

[Todd4State]

Henderson is not the dumb. Can't be. He has got to be doing this crap on purpose because he knows he ain't getting this job. I know it sounds crazy but good grief he can't really be this clueless

Or maybe he is? I don't think for a second that he's doing anything bad on purpose. I think he legitimately doesn't know WTF he's doing.

[Todd4State]

Time to go with the freshman:

1. Mangum, CF
2. Allen, LF
3. Hatcher, 1B
4. Foscue, 3B
5. Westburg, DH
6. Stovall, C
7. LA, SS
8. Rowdey, 2B
9. Jordan Anderson, RF

It was time to go with the freshman six weeks ago. Agree with the lineup by the way.

[HoopsDawg]

Or maybe he is? I don't think for a second that he's doing anything bad on purpose. I think he legitimately doesn't know WTF he's doing.

THIS

[Bulldog1]

Or maybe he is? I don't think for a second that he's doing anything bad on purpose. I think he legitimately doesn't know WTF he's doing.

I think so too.

[confucius say]

Or maybe he is? I don't think for a second that he's doing anything bad on purpose. I think he legitimately doesn't know WTF he's doing.

Agree.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Henderson and Cann were hired by someone who won 44% of his SEC games.

[msstate7]

Henderson and Cann were hired by someone who won 44% of his SEC games.

And won the sec at 2 different schools after taking over dumpster fires

[Coach34]

Cohen jacked around with line ups and bunted too much- but you can take away his 1st two seasons at Kentucky and State- because he took over shitty programs with very little talent

[confucius say]

Henderson and Cann were hired by someone who won 44% of his SEC games.

What is your point? Everybody loved Hindu as a pitching guy, which is what he was hired as. Everybody loved Cann as a head coach. I cannot put on Cohen the fact that Cann did what he did.

[msstate7]

Cohen jacked around with line ups and bunted too much- but you can take away his 1st two seasons at Kentucky and State- because he took over shitty programs with very little talent

Cohen aggravated me endlessly with his stupid bunting, but he was a good coach. Hopefully our next coach is at least as good as Cohen

[Bodaski]

What is your point? Everybody loved Hindu as a pitching guy, which is what he was hired as. Everybody loved Cann as a head coach. I cannot put on Cohen the fact that Cann did what he did.

I think Cann was driven to do what he did after watching fall ball and he saw the REAL team. No man can tolerate what is happening on the field.

[Westdawg]

I think Cann was driven to do what he did after watching fall ball and he saw the REAL team. No man can tolerate what is happening on the field.

No professional would tank not only their career, but also their marriage and family just so they would not have to deal with a bad season. THAT makes no sense. The situation is what it is. Our HC made horrible life decisions for months that finally caught up to him. Us having a bad season is just that.

[Bully13]

No professional would tank not only their career, but also their marriage and family just so they would not have to deal with a bad season. THAT makes no sense. The situation is what it is. Our HC made horrible life decisions for months that finally caught up to him. Us having a bad season is just that.

hey West, I've always wondered about that picture and who it was. can you please tell? thanks ---

[Bully13]

Henderson and Cann were hired by someone who won 44% of his SEC games.

dude.

[RocketDawg]

No professional would tank not only their career, but also their marriage and family just so they would not have to deal with a bad season. THAT makes no sense. The situation is what it is. Our HC made horrible life decisions for months that finally caught up to him. Us having a bad season is just that.

Pretty sure he said all that tongue-in-cheek.

[Todd4State]

No professional would tank not only their career, but also their marriage and family just so they would not have to deal with a bad season. THAT makes no sense. The situation is what it is. Our HC made horrible life decisions for months that finally caught up to him. Us having a bad season is just that.

Exactly. It's not like having a bad season with this many freshman would have put Cann's job in jeopardy especially after the success he had last season and the recruits that he has lined up for the next three years.

What happened was Cann got a big head and thought he was better than he was and for whatever reason he got enamored with some girl and thought he could get away with it. If anything it's the opposite- Cann probably thought that he was so awesome he would make our guys awesome with his baseball skills. It just doesn't work out that way in real life- whatever work you put it in whatever you get out of it in baseball. And also other things in life as well too.

[Todd4State]

Henderson and Cann were hired by someone who won 44% of his SEC games.

How many coaches does Cohen have on his tree that are now SEC coaches? Someone remind me?

Henderson, Bohannon, Butch, Mingione, and then you have Lane who is successful in C-USA. And Cann was so bad of a baseball hire he only got a team with no pitching staff to a SR in year one.

[BeardoMSU]

dude.

No shit, man. He conveniently forgets the SEC Tourney Championship, the SEC Regular Season Championship, and the trip to Omaha (including finishing runner up). ****s sake...

[Bully13]

No shit, man. He conveniently forgets the SEC Tourney Championship, the SEC Regular Season Championship, and the trip to Omaha (including finishing runner up). ****s sake...

gracias Beardo. can you give me some rep on the fact that my 55 yr old ass can relate to "dude" ? LOL ... what's up with Boston, MA weather these days ? inform us please sir. if you would be so inclined . us redneck southerners like some yankee , commie weather reports on occasion. LOL

[maroonmania]

Time to go with the freshman:

1. Mangum, CF
2. Allen, LF
3. Hatcher, 1B
4. Foscue, 3B
5. Westburg, DH
6. Stovall, C
7. LA, SS
8. Rowdey, 2B
9. Jordan Anderson, RF

At this point its all about preparing the players that should be the key contributors for next season. We are now at 14 straight games against non-SWAC competition of not scoring more than 5 runs. And most of those games we have scored significantly less than 5 runs. The offense we currently have is a laughing stock but I can live with that if we are allowing promising freshman to gain valuable experience that will benefit us next year.

[HoopsDawg]

At this point its all about preparing the players that should be the key contributors for next season. We are now at 14 straight games against non-SWAC competition of not scoring more than 5 runs. And most of those games we have scored significantly less than 5 runs. The offense we currently have is a laughing stock but I can live with that if we are allowing promising freshman to gain valuable experience that will benefit us next year.

Yep, what's sad about next season is our pitching staff is getting wiped out. Pilk and Billingsley are gone for sure. My opinion is that Small is gone too so that would be all 3 SEC starters. Blake Smith and France are gone. Good luck coming up with an SEC rotation and bullpen. Looking at signees Carter Stewart and Cole Winn are 99% going pro. Our whole pitching staff other than Keegan James and Cole Gordon will be new or guys coming back from injuries or ineffectiveness.

Cohen needs to step in and influence the lineup because Henderson can't figure out how to play Foscue and Westburg together and he seems unwilling to prepare for next season.

[preachermatt83]

Yep, what's sad about next season is our pitching staff is getting wiped out. Pilk and Billingsley are gone for sure. My opinion is that Small is gone too so that would be all 3 SEC starters. Blake Smith and France are gone. Good luck coming up with an SEC rotation and bullpen. Looking at signees Carter Stewart and Cole Winn are 99% going pro. Our whole pitching staff other than Keegan James and Cole Gordon will be new or guys coming back from injuries or ineffectiveness.

Cohen needs to step in and influence the lineup because Henderson can't figure out how to play Foscue and Westburg together and he seems unwilling to prepare for next season.

We have got to get some juco and grad transfer pitching. Only hope we have

[HoopsDawg]

We have got to get some juco and grad transfer pitching. Only hope we have

Right now we have 4 Juco's signed:

LHP from Wisconsin, Jack Egan
RHP from Pearl, Colby White
RHP from Hinds, JP Elkins
RHP from Iowa, Keaton Winn

Then there's a Juco from Oklahoma listed as a SS/RHP named Gunner Halter. I have no idea how good any of these guys are, but we haven't hit many homeruns with Juco pitchers lately.

[preachermatt83]

Right now we have 4 Juco's signed:

LHP from Wisconsin, Jack Egan
RHP from Pearl, Colby White
RHP from Hinds, JP Elkins
RHP from Iowa, Keaton Winn

Then there's a Juco from Oklahoma listed as a SS/RHP named Gunner Halter. I have no idea how good any of these guys are, but we haven't hit many homeruns with Juco pitchers lately.

Thanks.

[HoopsDawg]

Jack Egan 1.06 ERA in 17 innings, 21 K's
Colby White has a 5.17 ERA in 15.2 innings.
JP Elkins has only played in 3 of 22 games and hasn't pitched so I'm assuming he's hurt.
Looks like Winn has 20K's in 13 innings and a 1.38 ERA.

Wow, Gunner has hit 12 homers and is batting .402, He's only pitched 1 inning so I guess his focus is a position player.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I think Cann was driven to do what he did after watching fall ball and he saw the REAL team. No man can tolerate what is happening on the field.

Anyone that isnt blaming this shit burger on Cann either are related to him, or are just stupid.

[Todd4State]

Anyone that isnt blaming this shit burger on Cann either are related to him, or are just stupid.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if his wife agrees with those blaming him.

[Todd4State]

Jack Egan 1.06 ERA in 17 innings, 21 K's
Colby White has a 5.17 ERA in 15.2 innings.
JP Elkins has only played in 3 of 22 games and hasn't pitched so I'm assuming he's hurt.
Looks like Winn has 20K's in 13 innings and a 1.38 ERA.

Wow, Gunner has hit 12 homers and is batting .402, He's only pitched 1 inning so I guess his focus is a position player.

Halter and Winn are legit. We probably won't get Winn. We might get Halter but I heard that was before Cann left so that lessens my confidence on him. The other three are bullpen guys. You are leaving out Tucker Childers at Northeast Mississippi CC. He's a C/1B but again I see him as a role player for us.

[Todd4State]

Yep, what's sad about next season is our pitching staff is getting wiped out. Pilk and Billingsley are gone for sure. My opinion is that Small is gone too so that would be all 3 SEC starters. Blake Smith and France are gone. Good luck coming up with an SEC rotation and bullpen. Looking at signees Carter Stewart and Cole Winn are 99% going pro. Our whole pitching staff other than Keegan James and Cole Gordon will be new or guys coming back from injuries or ineffectiveness.

Cohen needs to step in and influence the lineup because Henderson can't figure out how to play Foscue and Westburg together and he seems unwilling to prepare for next season.

After the women are done tomorrow, Our midweek game would be a great time for him to become a little more involved. I think there is a better chance of Small coming back than you think. Keegan, Breaux, and Ashcraft will compete for spots as will McQuary. We'll know more after the draft is over. Self and Barlow also haven't been 100% and we should get Spencer Price back. We're also going to have a new pitching coach and I'm excited to see what that brings.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Right now we have 4 Juco's signed:

LHP from Wisconsin, Jack Egan
RHP from Pearl, Colby White
RHP from Hinds, JP Elkins
RHP from Iowa, Keaton Winn

Then there's a Juco from Oklahoma listed as a SS/RHP named Gunner Halter. I have no idea how good any of these guys are, but we haven't hit many homeruns with Juco pitchers lately.

The % yield is not promising, so you can’t count on them being good, only 3 of last 14 arrivals (excluding draftees like bacon, McMahon, and some other fake commitment) have actually been good.

The recent good were: Rigby, Price, and Blake Smith
The recent decent: Plumlee and Marsh (still early to tell)
The recent bad: Barton, Leibelt, Waddell, Jolly
The recent DOAs: Mason, Voss, Marze, Logan Elliott, and Paul Young

[Todd4State]

The % yield is not promising, so you can’t count on them being good, only 2 of last 13 arrivals (excluding draftees like bacon, McMahon, and some other fake commitment) have actually been good.

The recent good were: Rigby and Blake Smith
The recent decent: Plumlee, Jolly, and Marsh (still early to tell)
The recent bad: Barton, Leibelt, Waddell
The recent DOAs: Mason, Voss, Marze, Logan Elliott, and Paul Young

I'd demote Jolly from decent to bad.

[HoopsDawg]

The % yield is not promising, so you can’t count on them being good, only 2 of last 13 arrivals (excluding draftees like bacon, McMahon, and some other fake commitment) have actually been good.

The recent good were: Rigby and Blake Smith
The recent decent: Plumlee, Jolly, and Marsh (still early to tell)
The recent bad: Barton, Leibelt, Waddell
The recent DOAs: Mason, Voss, Marze, Logan Elliott, and Paul Young

We are screwed. Let’s open the Dude in 2020.

[Todd4State]

We are screwed. Let’s open the Dude in 2020.

Again, we need to stop recruiting so many JUCO's. We had essentially one good year from them in 2016. That has been about it. If we keep going back to a failing system with players that are at times not even competing at the highest levels in their league, why should we expect them to succeed with us?

What our coaches have been doing has been about as bad as what Jackie did in 2001- except for the fact that the Mississippi JUCO baseball system is much worse than the Mississippi JUCO football system.

Even worse those JUCO's take up spots that we could use to fill holes from the draft. Let's say we lose Cole Winn, Carter Stewart, JT Ginn, and Jeremiah Jackson and maybe Bryce Bush theoretically. So, essentially we're replacing those guys with a guy that has thrown 3 games in JUCO ball and may or may not be hurt, a guy that has an ERA of 5.17, a guy that has good numbers in the same league that Leibelt and Marshall Gilbert looked good in and I have yet to see us get a quality JUCO transfer from that league, maybe a JUCO that is actually legit in Halter if he doesn't go pro himself and a JUCO guy that is basically going to be a pinch hitter and sometimes DH.


THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO STOP RELYING ON JUCO'S SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please replace them with projectable high school guys that are late bloomers. Which we repeatedly miss out on. It's just frustrating when it's so obvious.

[The Federalist Engineer]

I'd demote Jolly from decent to bad.

Adjusted my list and I’m actually more depressed because the 3 good all had health issues.

So we are really 0 for the last 14 JUCOs if you consider healthy AND good

[MarketingBully]

Why would Small leave when he will be full strength next year and be an ace on the staff and have a chance to make much more money then this year since next year he will be a redshirt junior? Think people. He will still have leverage and should get his velocity back into the mid-nineties. Unless he’s just desperate to leave college, he’s not going to go.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Again, we need to stop recruiting so many JUCO's. We had essentially one good year from them in 2016.

What our coaches have been doing has been about as bad as what Jackie did in 2001- except for the fact that the Mississippi JUCO baseball system is much worse than the Mississippi JUCO football system..

Yep, I think are making me recall the infamous Western Arizona CC guys and the infamous TJ Mahwhinny. That TJM kid was the LB that could only tackle people 8 yards downfield after somebody else slowed them down.

Like the Sherrill JUCO strategy in football it can only work in baseball when you are the only one doing it. Today, USM is locking up Mississippi JUCOs as a matter of survival and Cohen disciples like Mingione are also locking up JUCOs

LSU seems to sign all the best, glamor National JUCOs

[Todd4State]

Yep, I think are making me recall the infamous Western Arizona CC guys and the infamous TJ Mahwhinny. That TJM kid was the LB that could only tackle people 8 yards downfield after somebody else slowed them down.

Like the Sherrill JUCO strategy in football it can only work in baseball when you are the only one doing it. Today, USM is locking up Mississippi JUCOs as a matter of survival and Cohen disciples like Mingione are also locking up JUCOs

LSU seems to sign all the best, glamor National JUCOs

There is definitely some error in evaluation on our part. I think a LOT of that was Coggin as far as our recent problems with that. Some of it is USM can offer immediate playing time.

TJ Mawhinney is one of my infamous favorites. He led the team in tackles but as you said it was usually after the team had gained 8 yards.

[Pit Bull]

look at 2 fastballs down the middle, swing at the curveball in the dirt

Will Clark wouldn't have looked at the first fastball down the middle.....even if the coach gave him the take sign. Ball would be floating down the Mississippi River somewhere and we'd be up 3-0.

[Pit Bull]

Feels like our baseball program is in a UT nuclear football winter.....a feeling of nothingness. A wasteland of no hope for years to come. Butch, Migione, or whoever will take years to turn this Titanic around.

[tcdog70]

Feels like our baseball program is in a UT nuclear football winter.....a feeling of nothingness. A wasteland of no hope for years to come. Butch, Migione, or whoever will take years to turn this Titanic around.

Negative there Ghost Rider---Baseball can turn quickly--hmm didn't we do really well last year. JUCOS players have always been the key since Polk. You just have to sign the right ones. Right Coach and we will be rolling again. I think we have a good group of Freshmen and a good signing class. I think we will be back on top soon.