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msstate7
03-23-2018, 05:00 PM
Very rarely (if ever) in our history has a coach in any sport here came in under the expectations Moorhead is facing this season. Moorhead has a very talented roster and expected to win 9-10 games. It is crazy to think that joe could win 8 games this year and be looked at as underperforming.

ShotgunDawg
03-23-2018, 05:02 PM
It be what it be

With great responsibility comes great reward

Coach34
03-23-2018, 05:03 PM
He likely wont have a team at State more talented than the one he will have this Fall. 8-4 would be complete failure

MaroonFlounder
03-23-2018, 05:13 PM
Unfortunately, there are 4 games that could easily be losses.
K State
Bama
Aub
TCUN

And we have a better team than LSU, but strange things happen in Baton Rouge.

We don’t have a DB that can cover AJ. There will have to be D-Line pressure on Tamu to keep the shart WRs from burning us.

AUB has Stidham. Again, DL and pressure is key.

KState is a bit of an unknown, but JoMo may not have his offense in full effect early season.

bluelightstar
03-23-2018, 05:20 PM
If we lose to Kansas State, it's going to be a long year.

parabrave
03-23-2018, 05:41 PM
If we lose to Kansas State, it's going to be a long year.

Why is everyone so enamored with K State/ For christsake they can't win their pos conference/ We should Skull^&*( them.

MetEdDawg
03-23-2018, 05:47 PM
Why is everyone so enamored with K State/ For christsake they can't win their pos conference/ We should Skull^&*( them.

Agreed. Kansas State doesn?t scare me. This team should run circles around them. Only team that scares me is Bama. The rest don?t scare me. They may be good, but every team on our schedule is beatable except probably Alabama. We could win that game but you don?t call them beatable. The rest of the teams we can because we have done it before.

But not one fan should be scared of Kansas State

HoopsDawg
03-23-2018, 06:06 PM
Shoop. Scares. Me.

Coach34
03-23-2018, 06:22 PM
Shoop. Scares. Me.

When you have more talent you have to outcoach people less. Plus, a 4-2-5 is the easiest defense to teach

Dawgface
03-23-2018, 06:56 PM
He does have pressure on him. But I think he will do just fine unless key injuries occur.

IMissJack
03-23-2018, 06:57 PM
In my opinion he will do a good job during the season. Where I feel he has pressure is recruiting. A lot of MSU fans are expecting big things with the 19 class, and I don't know how he will do.

JoseBrown
03-23-2018, 07:03 PM
When you have more talent you have to outcoach people less. Plus, a 4-2-5 is the easiest defense to teach

This is exactly the way I will look at it going into next year. If he proves it wrong then we just gonna have to outscore some folks. But I ain’t gonna worry too much about our defense this year going in, just look forward to them making some big, big plays!

Liverpooldawg
03-23-2018, 07:08 PM
He likely wont have a team at State more talented than the one he will have this Fall. 8-4 would be complete failure

I need to se them on the field in a competitive game before I buy into that. Not saying you are wrong, I just don't trust preseason evaluation when it comes to MSU. I'm too old a Dawg for that.

TUSK
03-23-2018, 07:36 PM
If we lose to Kansas State, it's going to be a long year.

Yeppers... a loss at KSU, and y'all are lookin' at 3-4 win season (if talent has much to say)....

bulldawg28
03-23-2018, 08:18 PM
Yeppers... a loss at KSU, and y'all are lookin' at 3-4 win season (if talent has much to say)....

I don't know about that but KState will be up for the game. If I'm not mistaken it's a Thursday nighter. However, I expect us to pull it off.

Todd4State
03-23-2018, 08:45 PM
Why is everyone so enamored with K State/ For christsake they can't win their pos conference/ We should Skull^&*( them.

It's just a classic trap game more than anything.

Todd4State
03-23-2018, 08:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v77XkOoIAc

Let's look at what happened to Ole Miss's offense the last time they faced a 4-2-5.

Dawg61
03-23-2018, 09:12 PM
We aren't losing to Ole Miss

WesternSkyDawg
03-23-2018, 09:13 PM
Very rarely (if ever) in our history has a coach in any sport here came in under the expectations Moorhead is facing this season. Moorhead has a very talented roster and expected to win 9-10 games. It is crazy to think that joe could win 8 games this year and be looked at as underperforming.

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Sorry, puss, don?t care if you?ve got 40,000 posts or 40,000,000

You?re either the biggest ?fraidycat? (let?s keep it clean) or you?re the smoothest, most undermining troll around

Coming off our momentum and hiring the most highly touted offensive assistant the college football coaching circle, media, and coaching sources have to offer. And yet you piss in the Cheerios every chance you get.

Not wasting another damn second on not only your pissant ass, but any ?po lil MSU/ mize state? POS this site has to offer

Your avi has become a well-conditioned ignore button for years now.

But if there?s something more efficient, I?d love to hear about it.

BuckyIsAB****
03-23-2018, 09:17 PM
Shoop. Scares. Me.

Me and you both

BuckyIsAB****
03-23-2018, 09:18 PM
Unfortunately, there are 4 games that could easily be losses.
K State
Bama
Aub
TCUN

And we have a better team than LSU, but strange things happen in Baton Rouge.

We don’t have a DB that can cover AJ. There will have to be D-Line pressure on Tamu to keep the shart WRs from burning us.

AUB has Stidham. Again, DL and pressure is key.

KState is a bit of an unknown, but JoMo may not have his offense in full effect early season.

People are sleeping on Dantzler, Peters, Cole and Tyler Williams. That is a solid 2 deep of CBs

BuckyIsAB****
03-23-2018, 09:21 PM
When you have more talent you have to outcoach people less. Plus, a 4-2-5 is the easiest defense to teach

It is. As long as he brings the funk and doesnt sit back we should be ok.

Im at 50/50 with him. Giving up 400 plus rushing yards to Mizzou and UK is about more than just injuries

Belegal
03-23-2018, 09:23 PM
Dawg 28- I show it as a sat game not thurs- if I'm wrong I need to change my room reservation

HoopsDawg
03-23-2018, 09:25 PM
It is. As long as he brings the funk and doesnt sit back we should be ok.

Im at 50/50 with him. Giving up 400 plus rushing yards to Mizzou and UK is about more than just injuries

It's strange, Shoop has a proven track record, but I'm much more confident in Joe Moorhead than Shoop. I feel good about Joe, I think he's going to do a great job. I'm scared to death about Shoop. I know we are going to be Top 30 in defense. We have too much talent to be worse than that. I just wonder if he is going to get the absolute best out of our talent. I don't like seeing guys like Fletcher Adams at 3rd string DE whereas a Tre Brown is 2nd string DT.

Bulldog1
03-23-2018, 09:25 PM
Dawg 28- I show it as a sat game not thurs- if I'm wrong I need to change my room reservation

I just checked. It’s Saturday, September 8th.

tcdog70
03-23-2018, 09:28 PM
I ain't scared of any of them. We are loaded and we are going whip ass every Sat. Do you negative ****ers get off on pissing on our Bulldogs.

Coach34
03-23-2018, 09:30 PM
I need to se them on the field in a competitive game before I buy into that. Not saying you are wrong, I just don't trust preseason evaluation when it comes to MSU. I'm too old a Dawg for that.

Thats the thing- we've seen everybody except Guidry, Rivers, Landrews and Cole. We return the most starters in the SEC I believe. Last time that happened was 2014.

BuckyIsAB****
03-23-2018, 09:35 PM
It's strange, Shoop has a proven track record, but I'm much more confident in Joe Moorhead than Shoop. I feel good about Joe, I think he's going to do a great job. I'm scared to death about Shoop. I know we are going to be Top 30 in defense. We have too much talent to be worse than that. I just wonder if he is going to get the absolute best out of our talent. I don't like seeing guys like Fletcher Adams at 3rd string DE whereas a Tre Brown is 2nd string DT.

That wont stay that way. 2 practices into spring ball I wouldnt take the depth chart seriously. We know who are players are, Fletch is one of them

HoopsDawg
03-23-2018, 09:37 PM
That wont stay that way. 2 practices into spring ball I wouldnt take the depth chart seriously. We know who are players are, Fletch is one of them

Yes, but Fletcher and a lot of our other talented players can't play DT in a 4-2-5. We have the ideal depth and talent to play the 3-4, but apparently Shoop is going to run the scheme he's been running for the last 10 years instead of adjusting to our personnel.

BuckyIsAB****
03-23-2018, 09:42 PM
Yes, but Fletcher and a lot of our other talented players can't play DT in a 4-2-5. We have the ideal depth and talent to play the 3-4, but apparently Shoop is going to run the scheme he's been running for the last 10 years instead of adjusting to our personnel.

Good point. Didnt think of that. But you can play inside if you're quick as hell have some nastiness and a motor that never lets up. Fletch has all 3. He would be a damn good slanting DT

Bulldog1
03-23-2018, 09:44 PM
I’m ready to fast forward to Football now. This team is going to be dominant on both sides of the football, and we have a kicker who can actually make field goals.

Coach34
03-23-2018, 09:46 PM
Yes, but Fletcher and a lot of our other talented players can't play DT in a 4-2-5. We have the ideal depth and talent to play the 3-4, but apparently Shoop is going to run the scheme he's been running for the last 10 years instead of adjusting to our personnel.

That's on Moorhead- he had the choice of hiring a 3-4 guy or a 4 front guy. And I disagree about the talent- we have the perfect talent for a 4 front. We actually have so much talent on D we could run anything. Our front is ridiculous with Sweat, Simmons, Thomas, and Rivers. Thats 4 draft picks right there. Then you add in quality depth- its just going to be fun to watch

bulldawg28
03-23-2018, 10:08 PM
Dawg 28- I show it as a sat game not thurs- if I'm wrong I need to change my room reservation

You're probably right. For some reason I thought it was a Thursday night game.

Liverpooldawg
03-23-2018, 10:12 PM
Thats the thing- we've seen everybody except Guidry, Rivers, Landrews and Cole. We return the most starters in the SEC I believe. Last time that happened was 2014.

New coaching staff.

WesternSkyDawg
03-23-2018, 10:14 PM
I ain't scared of any of them. We are loaded and we are going whip ass every Sat. Do you negative ****ers get off on pissing on our Bulldogs.

Amen, brotha

Bothrops
03-23-2018, 10:20 PM
If we lose to Kansas State, it's going to be a long year.

K State always plays very very hard against SEC teams. I remember a close game when they hosted Auburn on a Thursday night..I think, 4 or 5 years ago.

WesternSkyDawg
03-23-2018, 10:22 PM
It’s yet to be seen whether there’s any “that’s on Moorhead”. Everything about Moorhead’s history points to using the available talent rather than forcing a system.

The natural assumption is for success with this group. There is no evidence-base for a loser’s mentality with either this talent or this staff.

That lives somewhere, anywhere, outside of Starkville.

Pit Bull
03-23-2018, 10:26 PM
He likely wont have a team at State more talented than the one he will have this Fall. 8-4 would be complete failure

If that is true, why did we hire him? My expectation is that he will continue to improve our football program for years to come. We won't win big every year. But some years we will. Next year, I think we lose to BAMA, Auburn, and LSU. And we could easily lose at K-State (very tough on their home turf) or Kentucky. I would say 8-4 should be our minimum and 10-2 our high end. Stick a gun to my head and I would say 9-3 with another trip to Florida for a bowl.

Coach34
03-23-2018, 10:32 PM
If that is true, why did we hire him? My expectation is that he will continue to improve our football program for years to come. We won't win big every year. But some years we will. Next year, I think we lose to BAMA, Auburn, and LSU. And we could easily lose at K-State (very tough on their home turf) or Kentucky. I would say 8-4 should be our minimum and 10-2 our high end. Stick a gun to my head and I would say 9-3 with another trip to Florida for a bowl.

LSU's offense was shut out in their 1st scrimmage the other day. We arent losing to LSU- I dont care where the game is played.

My statement is based on the fact that this will be the most talented team we have had at State in my lifetime- and we are going to lose alot of it after this season. It's going to be hard to amass this much talent in Starkville again. We are one of the 10 most talented teams in the country.

Bulldog1
03-23-2018, 10:40 PM
LSU's offense was shut out in their 1st scrimmage the other day.
I thought this was hilarious. They play the toughest schedule in the country this year, that’ll be fun to watch.

WesternSkyDawg
03-23-2018, 11:04 PM
I thought this was hilarious. They play the toughest schedule in the country this year, that’ll be fun to watch.

Hilarious? That would be your calling yourself a “bulldog1” fan but predicting gloom and doom.

Sack up, puddin

BuckyIsAB****
03-23-2018, 11:16 PM
If that is true, why did we hire him? My expectation is that he will continue to improve our football program for years to come. We won't win big every year. But some years we will. Next year, I think we lose to BAMA, Auburn, and LSU. And we could easily lose at K-State (very tough on their home turf) or Kentucky. I would say 8-4 should be our minimum and 10-2 our high end. Stick a gun to my head and I would say 9-3 with another trip to Florida for a bowl.

There is no sure loss on this schedule with this team. We will be better than LSU, I know its down there but we dont fear them or that place anymore.

Auburn and Bama will be good but Barn is at home and at Bama could be for the west.

Kentucky???? This team isnt losing to Kentucky. Sorry

BuckyIsAB****
03-23-2018, 11:18 PM
If that is true, why did we hire him? My expectation is that he will continue to improve our football program for years to come. We won't win big every year. But some years we will. Next year, I think we lose to BAMA, Auburn, and LSU. And we could easily lose at K-State (very tough on their home turf) or Kentucky. I would say 8-4 should be our minimum and 10-2 our high end. Stick a gun to my head and I would say 9-3 with another trip to Florida for a bowl.

I expect K-State will be harder than some expect but we are most def the better team. I do respect them though, we all should

WesternSkyDawg
03-23-2018, 11:35 PM
There is no sure loss on this schedule with this team. We will be better than LSU, I know its down there but we dont fear them or that place anymore.

Auburn and Bama will be good but Barn is at home and at Bama could be for the west.

Kentucky???? This team isnt losing to Kentucky. Sorry

Rep

(sad there are are enough pu—ies that a “maybe we’ll win a couple games” limp-wristed approach is even in question)

WesternSkyDawg
03-23-2018, 11:36 PM
Lookin at you msstate7

TUSK
03-24-2018, 12:27 AM
Lookin at you msstate7

Jesus
[looking for the shears]

Bully13
03-24-2018, 06:41 AM
K-State couldn't win at Nashville last year. moan mane.

msstate7
03-24-2018, 07:15 AM
Lookin at you msstate7

Like what you see?

bulldawg28
03-24-2018, 07:25 AM
LSU's offense was shut out in their 1st scrimmage the other day. We arent losing to LSU- I dont care where the game is played.

My statement is based on the fact that this will be the most talented team we have had at State in my lifetime- and we are going to lose alot of it after this season. It's going to be hard to amass this much talent in Starkville again. We are one of the 10 most talented teams in the country.

This team is ranked near the top talent wise but the kicker is they are a seasoned group. Amassing talent again will not be the problem. However, having a talented senior laden team is humongous! I just hope they buy in to the new coaching and at times make the needed adjustments as coaches will rely on them mutually.

Bulldog1
03-24-2018, 07:44 AM
Hilarious? That would be your calling yourself a “bulldog1” fan but predicting gloom and doom.

Sack up, puddin

What are you talking about? I’m going to enjoy watching LSU get steamrolled playing the toughest schedule in the nation. What is gloom and doom about that?

msstate7
03-24-2018, 08:01 AM
What are you talking about? I?m going to enjoy watching LSU get steamrolled playing the toughest schedule in the nation. What is gloom and foo about that?

If you say anything other than we are destined for greatness in all sports, recruiting is on Cal or saban level, or we are getting any college baseball coach we want, you are labeled as negative here lately. Well unless you play poorly like the baseball team, then this board turns on you quite quickly... daily public lashings lol

Jack Lambert
03-24-2018, 10:53 AM
I think he is fully aware of the opportunity he has at State and the pressure he is under. How often does a guy get a chance like this. More often then not when a school gets a new coach that team is a dumpster fire. I think he is up to the task. As far as the DC goes I think he knows this is his last chance. He is going to take advantage of the situation.