Vandy game 3

[msstate7]

Skelton with a pass ball. Gilbert must be the worst catcher in the history of baseball to not get a shot

[msstate7]

Stovall is having as bad a year as possible. Error

[KOdawg1]

we might win 6 conference games this year. that may be a stretch.

[ScottH]

we might win 6 conference games this year. that may be a stretch.

Today, I'd take the under.

[Homedawg]

Stovall is having as bad a year as possible. Error

Hate it. He's not a bad player. Just pressing

[msstate7]

Hate it. He's not a bad player. Just pressing

He is a hell of a player.

[msstate7]

4-3... westburg rbi

[ScoobaDawg]

4-3... westburg rbi

So who has 4 who has 3... i would asume we are behind because of the bitching but can't tell from this post.

[TNDawg35]

How did Vandy get their runs? Who did Westburg hit for?

[msstate7]

So who has 4 who has 3... i would asume we are behind because of the bitching but can't tell from this post.

4-3 vandy. Sorry

[msstate7]

How did Vandy get their runs? Who did Westburg hit for?

Foscue

[Todd4State]

How did Vandy get their runs? Who did Westburg hit for?

Scored a run on a passed ball, a two run single after we intentionally loaded the bases, and then the other run came in the same inning on an error by Stovall.

Westburg pinch hit for Foscue and had a really good AB.

It's Vanderbilt 4 MSU 3

[Bulldog1]

Glad to see Westburg get an AB.

[Todd4State]

Glad to see Westburg get an AB.

Yeah- he and Jordan Anderson should be playing more.

[msstate7]

Yeah- he and Jordan Anderson should be playing more.

Foscue got a hit earlier. Was it a straight PH or something wrong with foscue? Did foscue get an error on that throw?

[Bulldog1]

Yeah- he and Jordan Anderson should be playing more.

Yep. Been saying this for weeks

[Todd4State]

Foscue got a hit earlier. Was it a straight PH or something wrong with foscue? Did foscue get an error on that throw?

I don't know- I assumed it was a straight up pinch hit.

[Todd4State]

Yep. Been saying this for weeks

If I'm Gary Henderson I look at Stovall at C out of necessity. Skelton has been killing us- his passed ball ignited their four run inning and we aren't getting anything out of him at the plate. I've seen Gilbert play and I think he is just as bad or worse. We have two SWAC games this week and that is the perfect time to look at doing something like that.

C- Stovall
1B- Hatcher
2B- Allen or Rowdey
3B- Foscue
SS- LA
LF- Allen or Rowdey
CF- Mangum
RF- Anderson
DH- Westburg

[Bulldog1]

If I'm Gary Henderson I look at Stovall at C out of necessity. Skelton has been killing us- his passed ball ignited their four run inning and we aren't getting anything out of him at the plate. I've seen Gilbert play and I think he is just as bad or worse. We have two SWAC games this week and that is the perfect time to look at doing something like that.

C- Stovall
1B- Hatcher
2B- Allen or Rowdey
3B- Foscue
SS- LA
LF- Allen or Rowdey
CF- Mangum
RF- Anderson
DH- Westburg
We discussed this Yesterday. It needs to happen

[The Federalist Engineer]

Yep. Been saying this for weeks

It would be sad to see these guys transfer out because they we decided to play unperclassmen that cant hit 250

[msstate7]

We are losing in the 7th and letting Skelton hit. Just do not get it

[Bulldog1]

We are losing in the 7th and letting Skelton hit. Just do not get it

Henderson is a great coach ****

[msstate7]

Henderson is a great coach ****

Gilbert must be awful

[msstate7]

Steal here with poole

[Bulldog1]

Gilbert must be awful

I could do better than Gilbert

[msstate7]

Crap. Alexander has just missed on his last 2 ABs

[Coach34]

Crap. Alexander has just missed on his last 2 ABs

had a shot to tie the game there. Of course- he didnt tho.

FoamBat has had a huge weekend for him tho- 4/12 and a sac bunt

[msstate7]

had a shot to tie the game there. Of course- he didnt tho.

FoamBat has had a huge weekend for him tho- 4/12 and a sac bunt

1 K on the weekend. He has hit almost every ball hard. Your epic fail prediction has not materialized.

[Bulldog1]

Mangum has to learn to take pitches

[Coach34]

1 K on the weekend. He has hit almost every ball hard. Your epic fail prediction has not materialized.

He has yet to leave epic fail- he is hitting in the .240's and we just started SEC play. It will take a major miracle for him to hit .250 this season

[I seen it dawg]

He has swung the bat better but he had a terrible inning crushing AB Friday night. Just walked 2 and he swings at first pitch breaking ball. Then takes a fastball. Then strikes out. Gave all of our potential momentum right back to vandy just like that. A junior starter hitting 2 hole should never do that. But yes he has swung the bat better this wkd.

[Jack Lambert]

So who has 4 who has 3... i would asume we are behind because of the bitching but can't tell from this post.

I post out here a lot and I see a lot of posters but seems like the ones bitching the most I never see posting when things are going good.

[I seen it dawg]

1 K on the weekend. He has hit almost every ball hard. Your epic fail prediction has not materialized.

He has not hit almost every ball hard...come on man.

[Coach34]

unless he crushes SWAC pitching midweek that is

[I seen it dawg]

Good job by Neff getting out of inning. 4-3 vandy to bottom of 8.

[msstate7]

He has swung the bat better but he had a terrible inning crushing AB Friday night. Just walked 2 and he swings at first pitch breaking ball. Then takes a fastball. Then strikes out. Gave all of our potential momentum right back to vandy just like that. A junior starter hitting 2 hole should never do that. But yes he has swung the bat better this wkd.

That first AB was brutal. I blasted him on here for it to.

[Coach34]

I post out here a lot and I see a lot of posters but seems like the ones bitching the most I never see posting when things are going good.

When was the last time we had something going good in baseball? June?

[msstate7]

How you gonna not take that bean ball, Stovall?

[msstate7]

Selfish AB by Stovall. Had a chance to get on base, and jumped out the way

[msstate7]

Last chance...
Westburg
Vansau
Skelton

[msstate7]

Regression from vansau, macnamee, and Stovall is killing our offense. I like Alexander, but he should be 7-8 in the lineup... if the above 3 were not turning in terrible seasons, we could win some games with our pitching. I like our freshmen, but I wish we did not have to use so many in our everyday lineup

[moss818]

Someone please go open hand slap that vandy whistler. Damn that gets on my nerves.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Westburg can earn playing time today

[I seen it dawg]

I want him in the lineup. He looks like a hitter. Give him a chance.

[msstate7]

Vansau, it is time... get your butt in gear

[Bulldog1]

Put him at 2nd, move Stovall to Catcher

[I seen it dawg]

Vansau bat so slow. But helluva an AB to draw a walk

[msstate7]

I want him in the lineup. He looks like a hitter. Give him a chance.

Spit on a close pitch, and just missed 1-1. He does look good

[msstate7]

Jordan is gonna try to orbit one lol

[msstate7]

Trying to pull fastball outside above the waist yikes

[I seen it dawg]

I wish someone would tell Rowdey his hole and where he is missing everything is elevated away. Damn.

[msstate7]

Difference in a win and a loss are a passed ball and Stovall error

[I seen it dawg]

Just ****ing blow fastballs by the last 2 hitters. We are so damn weak. Swept.

[I seen it dawg]

Difference in a win and a loss are a passed ball and Stovall error

No sense of urgency with this team. No intensity, leadership or stones. We are so ****ing soft and our coaching staff or upperclassmen aren’t doing a ****ing thing about it.

[Bothrops]

Baseball team not pulling their weight

[msstate7]

3 run in 3 games

[Bulldog1]

3 run in 3 games

Pathetic. Wait until we play Arkansas. They will kill us

[NCDawg]

At least we've got a beautiful stadium.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Regression from vansau, macnamee, and Stovall is killing our offense. I like Alexander, but he should be 7-8 in the lineup... if the above 3 were not turning in terrible seasons, we could win some games with our pitching. I like our freshmen, but I wish we did not have to use so many in our everyday lineup

If these upperclassmen can’t hit and lead, they should not be playing. They are failed investments, time to move on.

[msstate7]

At least we've got a beautiful stadium.

Gonna be lots of open seats for people tough enough to watch

[ATTILLA THE DOG]

Pathetic. Wait until we play Arkansas. They will kill us

0-3 is 0-3

[Bulldog1]

0-3 is 0-3

True. But it can feel like 0-56. At least for me

[Ari Gold]

Regression from vansau, macnamee, and Stovall is killing our offense. I like Alexander, but he should be 7-8 in the lineup... if the above 3 were not turning in terrible seasons, we could win some games with our pitching. I like our freshmen, but I wish we did not have to use so many in our everyday lineup

So it?s these 3 players fault and not Alexander ?? Isn?t he an upperclassman??

[HancockCountyDog]

I just hate that we are wasting the best Friday night starter we have had in a while. He deserves better.

[msstate7]

So it?s these 3 players fault and not Alexander ?? Isn?t he an upperclassman??

Alexander should be hitting better too. Alexander was never supposed to be an offensive leader though. You think Alexander avoids blame here? Laughable at best...

[5049]

I just hate that we are wasting the best Friday night starter we have had in a while. He deserves better.

Wut

[maroonmania]

Well I'm to the point of apathy now that I'm just checking the score after the game. Not worth the effort any more to keep up with the in game details. :(

[msstate7]

Well I'm to the point of apathy now that I'm just checking the score after the game. Not worth the effort any more to keep up with the in game details. :(

I wish I could. I will be miserable with every pitch

[Coursesuper]

I wish I could. I will be miserable with every pitch

You might want to invest in some shares of Makers Mark, this could be a very long season.

[msstate7]

You might want to invest in some shares of Makers Mark, this could be a very long season.

More like Bacardi 151

[HancockCountyDog]

Wut

Best since Maholm that was almost 15 years ago.

Pilk has a 1.55 ERA and a sub 1.00 whip so far this season.

[tcdog70]

Errors cost us this game. Without them we have enough runs to win.

[msstate7]

Best since Maholm that was almost 15 years ago.

Pilk has a 1.55 ERA and a sub 1.00 whip so far this season.

Stratton was pretty good.

[HancockCountyDog]

Stratton was pretty good.

So was Dakota, but Pilk is putting up video game numbers so far.

[Ari Gold]

Alexander should be hitting better too. Alexander was never supposed to be an offensive leader though. You think Alexander avoids blame here? Laughable at best...

I’m going by what u said. Hell No one is hitting, but you are the one that always apologizes for Belmont. And you just made my point if ur going to be with the big boys in the SEC your SS has to hit.
Your JR SS shouldn’t be hitting below .250

[MarketingBully]

Why even follow this team this year and invest any emotional equity in them? We have an interim coach who knows he’s going to get fired no matter what happens at the end of the year. Chalk this up and know this is a 500 team overall and get excited about the new coach we will bring in next year.

[The Federalist Engineer]

So it?s these 3 players fault and not Alexander ?? Isn?t he an upperclassman??

LA never regressed and doesn’t have our hopes up

[starkvegasdawg]

More like Bacardi 151

Everclear

[Todd4State]

Why even follow this team this year and invest any emotional equity in them? We have an interim coach who knows he’s going to get fired no matter what happens at the end of the year. Chalk this up and know this is a 500 team overall and get excited about the new coach we will bring in next year.

This is where I am right now. I'm literally counting down the weeks until the end of the year. The Governor's Cup is all I care about winning at this point- and I expect us to lose that. I'll just have to endure it like I did the five years in a row when Polk II didn't care about the game and lost it every time or Cohen's first two years.

[maroonmania]

Why even follow this team this year and invest any emotional equity in them? We have an interim coach who knows he’s going to get fired no matter what happens at the end of the year. Chalk this up and know this is a 500 team overall and get excited about the new coach we will bring in next year.

Agree on this perspective. And personally I don't see this as a .500 team. We are a 20+ loss team in the SEC and haven't done well enough in the OOC games to offset that finish very near .500.

[Activated Alpha]

I?m going by what u said. Hell No one is hitting, but you are the one that always apologizes for Belmont. And you just made my point if ur going to be with the big boys in the SEC your SS has to hit.
Your JR SS shouldn?t be hitting below .250

To me any player hitting below the Mendoza line should sit no matter how good defense you bring. I would rather get a guy who is average with his defense and a baller at the plate

[Todd4State]

To me any player hitting below the Mendoza line should sit no matter how good defense you bring. I would rather get a guy who is average with his defense and a baller at the plate

Let's get this straight- the Mendoza line is .200 or below. Not directed at you personally but a PSA.

[Todd4State]

Alexander should be hitting better too. Alexander was never supposed to be an offensive leader though. You think Alexander avoids blame here? Laughable at best...

I can't believe you're not all over this:

LA- .247 Avg

Stovall- .256 Avg

[msstate7]

I can't believe you're not all over this:

LA- .247 Avg

Stovall- .256 Avg

It brings me no joy that Stovall is struggling. I would rather Alexander completely flop and us succeed. I do not care about being right or wrong... just want state to win

[Todd4State]

It brings me no joy that Stovall is struggling. I would rather Alexander completely flop and us succeed. I do not care about being right or wrong... just want state to win

I'd like to see both succeed too. I think Stovall is trying to do too much. One reason I think moving him to catcher might actually help him get his bat going because he can channel his leadership skills better behind the plate and it may take his mind off of trying to do too much.

It could also completely backfire.

[msstate7]

I'd like to see both succeed too. I think Stovall is trying to do too much. One reason I think moving him to catcher might actually help him get his bat going because he can channel his leadership skills better behind the plate and it may take his mind off of trying to do too much.

It could also completely backfire.

We have no choice to try something different at catcher. Skelton is letting balls get by him fielding and swinging

[Todd4State]

We have no choice to try something different at catcher. Skelton is letting balls get by him fielding and swinging

I agree. I just hope the man making out the lineup card actually does it. I have very little faith in Henderson doing that based on what I've seen so far. Vansau and Poole get multiple chances while Anderson and Westburg get very few.

[msstate7]

I agree. I just hope the man making out the lineup card actually does it. I have very little faith in Henderson doing that based on what I've seen so far. Vansau and Poole get multiple chances while Anderson and Westburg get very few.

We have 2 swac schools midweek. Time to make the move

[Activated Alpha]

Let's get this straight- the Mendoza line is .200 or below. Not directed at you personally but a PSA.

Oh I know. It just looks like that's the direction he's heading

[msstate7]

Joe mayo posted this on sps...

Weekend stats:

Skelton- 0-9 6ks
Jordan- 0-6 3ks
Stovall- 0-9 4ks
Vansau- 1-10 5ks
Hatcher- 2-13 5ks
Poole- 1-4 2ks

[Bulldog1]

Joe mayo posted this on sps...

Weekend stats:

Skelton- 0-9 6ks
Jordan- 0-6 3ks
Stovall- 0-9 4ks
Vansau- 1-10 5ks
Hatcher- 2-13 5ks
Poole- 1-4 2ks
That’s brutal

[maroonmania]

It could also completely backfire.

In the immortal words of Clark Griswold "WORSE? How could things get any worse? Take a look around here, we're at the threshold of baseball hell."***

[preachermatt83]

If I'm Gary Henderson I look at Stovall at C out of necessity. Skelton has been killing us- his passed ball ignited their four run inning and we aren't getting anything out of him at the plate. I've seen Gilbert play and I think he is just as bad or worse. We have two SWAC games this week and that is the perfect time to look at doing something like that.

C- Stovall
1B- Hatcher
2B- Allen or Rowdey
3B- Foscue
SS- LA
LF- Allen or Rowdey
CF- Mangum
RF- Anderson
DH- Westburg

Agreed

[Bulldog1]

In the immortal words of Clark Griswold "WORSE? How could things get any worse? Take a look around here, we're at the threshold of baseball hell."***

Lol.

[tcdog70]

We have no choice to try something different at catcher. Skelton is letting balls get by him fielding and swinging

His defense is hurting us as much as his bat.

[tcdog70]

That’s brutal

I had just as soon let ole 24 play first. At least when he does hit it , it goes along way. I say play Poole at the lead of , have him bunt some. His speed is under utililzed. Then if he gets on let Him steal. Notice our speed got us our runs today.

[Bulldog1]

I had just as soon let ole 24 play first. At least when he does hit it , it goes along way. I say play Poole at the lead of , have him bunt some. His speed is under utililzed. Then if he gets on let Him steal. Notice our speed got us our runs today.

One thing that kills me is Mangum swinging at every pitch. I mean one AB, the catcher had to get up on his tip toes to catch the pitch, he still swung (I’m exaggerating lol, but it was VERY HIGH. The catcher did have to stand all the way up though.)
And I said yesterday that we need to put Westburg and Anderson in the lineup, see what they can do. Do you agree?

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I had just as soon let ole 24 play first. At least when he does hit it , it goes along way. I say play Poole at the lead of , have him bunt some. His speed is under utililzed. Then if he gets on let Him steal. Notice our speed got us our runs today.

I think Poole should be 2nd. Mangum swings at everything and if a runner is infront of him he'll hit into a DP often. He should be leadoff to utilize his high average and + speed, and to minimize the risk of a DP.

Put Pool 2nd- he's not as much of a DP risk, and you can still bunt him like you said. Only then if he gets thrown out, we have Mangum at 2nd instead of Mangum on 1st and 1 out, which his what you'd have if you put Mangum at the 2 in this hypothetical

[maroonmania]

One thing that kills me is Mangum swinging at every pitch. I mean one AB, the catcher had to get up on his tip toes to catch the pitch, he till swung (I’m exaggerating lol, but it was VERY HIGH. The catcher did have to stand all the way up though.)
And I said yesterday that we need to put Westburg and Anderson in the lineup, see what they can do. Do you agree?

Hard to believe as a JR that he hasn't improved one iota in pitch selection than he was as a FR. He may even be worse.

[tcdog70]

I really think He hits better when he hits the first pitch.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Hard to believe as a JR that he hasn't improved one iota in pitch selection than he was as a FR. He may even be worse.

How many coaches has he had since he was a freshman? It's a revolving door of people, it has to be a major factor in why our juniors seem to all be poorly developed.

[msstate7]

How many coaches has he had since he was a freshman? It's a revolving door of people, it has to be a major factor in why our juniors seem to all be poorly developed.

That is a good point

[Coach34]

How many coaches has he had since he was a freshman? It's a revolving door of people, it has to be a major factor in why our juniors seem to all be poorly developed.

They have a different coach at every level of the minor leagues too- that doesnt seem to hurt players does it?

Thats just an excuse. Magnum chooses to be undisciplined, People like that can't handle getting behind in the count- makes them edgy so they try to be overly aggressive and hit what they can. It's just poor baseball

[Ari Gold]

+ arm
++ defense
+ speed
+ hitter ( for average )
Zero power.

Jake checks off 4 of the 5 boxes for a MLB guy. Yet he goes round 30. Tells you a lot .