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InTheIttaBenaHotSun
02-23-2018, 09:43 PM
Hadn't see this brought up yet but how pissed do you think Gautreau is right now? I'm thinking he might of had a pretty good thing going with the Boras Corp.

AlSwearengen
02-23-2018, 10:24 PM
Yeah. Soon after news broke I thought about him and what he must be thinking. Now, he probably gets lost in the shuffle.

Skydawg1
02-23-2018, 10:27 PM
Just another life Andy screwed up.

Todd4State
02-23-2018, 10:29 PM
He may be able to go back to the Boras Corp. if he wants to.

Choctaw Dawg
02-23-2018, 10:29 PM
I'm happy he hasn't quit on the team yet himself, I think he's mad to the point where he would have wanted too and I don't think anyone can see him staying past this year.

Todd4State
02-23-2018, 10:38 PM
I'm happy he hasn't quit on the team yet himself, I think he's mad to the point where he would have wanted too and I don't think anyone can see him staying past this year.

I would be surprised if any of the coaches are back next year. Which sucks for them. I wish them well if it comes down to that.

The Federalist Engineer
02-24-2018, 08:35 AM
Hadn't see this brought up yet but how pissed do you think Gautreau is right now? I'm thinking he might of had a pretty good thing going with the Boras Corp.

He should thrive at MSU. Henderson and Cohen don’t want to destroy the recruiting classes and his resume was built independently of Cannizzaro.

I think Henderson will treat him like a fox hole brother and he will be great at MSU

Bully13
02-24-2018, 10:02 AM
what is Boras Corp?

MarketingBully
02-24-2018, 11:04 AM
It wouldn’t surprise me if we were able to grab Dan McDonnell from Louisville. This could be the perfect time to reach out to him and gauge interest especially the uncertainty around the athletic department at Louisville. Could be a perfect storm to get him. He knows the area and is an excellent recruiter. If he can do what he did at Louisville, he certainly can win a championship here.

MarketingBully
02-24-2018, 11:13 AM
He should thrive at MSU. Henderson and Cohen don’t want to destroy the recruiting classes and his resume was built independently of Cannizzaro.

I think Henderson will treat him like a fox hole brother and he will be great at MSU

You bring in a name like McDonnell and I doubt the class goes anywhere.

preachermatt83
02-24-2018, 11:45 AM
It wouldn’t surprise me if we were able to grab Dan McDonnell from Louisville. This could be the perfect time to reach out to him and gauge interest especially the uncertainty around the athletic department at Louisville. Could be a perfect storm to get him. He knows the area and is an excellent recruiter. If he can do what he did at Louisville, he certainly can win a championship here.

He makes like 1.5 mil a year. One thing about Cohen is he seems to be tight with the pocketbook. We won't offer anyone more than about 750k.

MarketingBully
02-24-2018, 11:50 AM
He makes like 1.5 mil a year. One thing about Cohen is he seems to be tight with the pocketbook. We won't offer anyone more than about 750k.

For the right coach we will. If you want an elite coach, you pay him accordingly.

InTheIttaBenaHotSun
02-24-2018, 12:03 PM
what is Boras Corp?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Boras

WeWonItAll(Most)
02-24-2018, 12:21 PM
He makes like 1.5 mil a year. One thing about Cohen is he seems to be tight with the pocketbook. We won't offer anyone more than about 750k.

Weren't we prepared to pay Mullen an ungodly amount of money to keep him around? Or was that nothing more than a rumor? We obviously weren't going to pay Cann a record breaking amount of money considering he was a first time head coach.

The Federalist Engineer
02-24-2018, 12:54 PM
For the right coach we will. If you want an elite coach, you pay him accordingly.

That’s right, we have a stadium to fill.

But I’m not convinced that basketball being a sewer affects baseball much. Everybody knows college basketball was and is a filthy business, the FBI is finally looking into it

WeWonItAll(Most)
02-24-2018, 01:05 PM
That’s right, we have a stadium to fill.

But I’m not convinced that basketball being a sewer affects baseball much. Everybody knows college basketball was and is a filthy business, the FBI is finally looking into it

They lost their AD because of it too, so they're sort of in a state of turmoil. Not that what you said is wrong, it's just this is as good of chance as any to take a shot at him.

Bully13
02-24-2018, 01:18 PM
What if Henderson does a bang up job this year? we don't give him a shot? hasn't he proven he can be a good HC at previous schools?

TNDawg35
02-24-2018, 01:31 PM
Henderson is a great coach, but if you can get a McDonald or a Schnogale or even a Corbin, you go for them. Now if Henderson takes us to a Natty this yr, then sure, give him a shot. But if I was Cohen, I go for the splash hire of one of the above. Henderson is here and isn't going anywhere. Go for the splash, then you can always fall back on hi
If need be. But I do t think that will be the case. I think we will all be shocked, In a good way, who our coach will be next yr...

preachermatt83
02-24-2018, 02:31 PM
Henderson is a great coach, but if you can get a McDonald or a Schnogale or even a Corbin, you go for them. Now if Henderson takes us to a Natty this yr, then sure, give him a shot. But if I was Cohen, I go for the splash hire of one of the above. Henderson is here and isn't going anywhere. Go for the splash, then you can always fall back on hi
If need be. But I do t think that will be the case. I think we will all be shocked, In a good way, who our coach will be next yr...

I think it ends up being jay johnson or Corbin.

preachermatt83
02-24-2018, 02:33 PM
I don't know why Cliff Godwin don't get more love.

Todd4State
02-24-2018, 02:33 PM
He makes like 1.5 mil a year. One thing about Cohen is he seems to be tight with the pocketbook. We won't offer anyone more than about 750k.

Then we do what Alabama did to get Saban. 3 million. We paid a guy with zero head coaching experience 525k or something like that.

Todd4State
02-24-2018, 02:34 PM
I don't know why Cliff Godwin don't get more love.

Because his team had a bad year last year.

preachermatt83
02-24-2018, 02:40 PM
Then we do what Alabama did to get Saban. 3 million. We paid a guy with zero head coaching experience 525k or something like that.

I agree but I really don't see Cohen being that way.

preachermatt83
02-24-2018, 02:43 PM
Because his team had a bad year last year.

Maybe so but I bet they have a huge bounceback year this yr. they are 5-0 right now with a win yesterday over North Carolina

KB21
02-24-2018, 02:52 PM
I think it ends up being jay johnson or Corbin.

I wouldn't rule out Johnson, but Corbin isn't leaving Vandy. Schlossnagle won't leave TCU either. I doubt Brian O'Connor leaves Virginia as well.

Todd4State
02-24-2018, 03:00 PM
I agree but I really don't see Cohen being that way.

He was one of the main ones that advocated building the new stadium. MSU is a different animal than the other sports and now he has all the time in the world to get a great hire unlike last time.

As hungry as we are for a National Title in baseball I could definitely see Cohen making a huge splash hite like that and pulling it off. Cannizarro and Moorhead don't have the experience to command that kind of money which is the main reason why we aren't paying them more.

preachermatt83
02-24-2018, 05:58 PM
Gautreau was not coaching 1st today.

The Federalist Engineer
02-24-2018, 06:11 PM
Gautreau was not coaching 1st today.

Was he out Crooting, that’s his other job

preachermatt83
02-24-2018, 06:13 PM
Was he out Crooting, that’s his other job

I would assume he was prob crootin. But that's just my assumption

msbulldog
02-24-2018, 06:17 PM
I think they moved a GA to first, Henderson 3rd and Gautreau dugout.

MoreCowbell
02-24-2018, 06:18 PM
What about Coastal Carolina coach that won a natty? Gilmore I think is his name

preachermatt83
02-24-2018, 06:44 PM
I think they moved a GA to first, Henderson 3rd and Gautreau dugout.

Cole Gordon was coaching 1st

Todd4State
02-24-2018, 06:47 PM
What about Coastal Carolina coach that won a natty? Gilmore I think is his name

He's a Coastal Carolina alum.

preachermatt83
02-24-2018, 06:54 PM
What about Coastal Carolina coach that won a natty? Gilmore I think is his name

Gary Gilmore is a winner. He knows how to win and has been winning for a very long time. He was offered the auburn job in 2008 for double his salary at CC and turned it down. I don't think anything prys him away from his alma mater at this point in his career. Winning a natty for them may have made it easier to leave but I just don't see it happening.

Coach34
02-24-2018, 06:54 PM
We are not going to get someone from a top 15 program year in and year out. We are either going to reward Henderson or hire a younger guy that should be ready for a big job

basedog
02-24-2018, 07:15 PM
Henderson deserves a shot, let the season plaout out, he h
Is a good recruiter with connections. I like him way more than Butch Thompson.

Todd4State
02-24-2018, 08:34 PM
Here's the thing:

I am 100% sure that no one feels worse about the baseball situation than Cohen. It embarrassed MSU and it put our players in a very awkward position- and Cohen recruited most of those players.

So, I think Cohen is going to be even more determined this time to get it right.

I don't think it will be Henderson though. If Cohen thought he was the best choice, he would have just promoted Henderson when he moved up to AD. And if we were going to have a coaching search, how many people on here would have been "ya know, we should really give Gary Henderson the job." Probably not very many.

With hindsight being 20/20 we should have just made Henderson the interim after Cohen moved to AD and then hired someone in the offseason. Which is essentially what we are doing now anyway. I think the best thing for our program at the end of the year to do is just go full reboot. Right now we have some of Cohen's old coaches on staff and Gautreau. Let's bring in the best coach we can and let him bring in his staff. We need to try to make as elite of a hire as we possibly can.

basedog
02-24-2018, 08:39 PM
Again, let the season play out, sometimes kids will rally around someone like Henderson.

I'm not saying he will get the job but he has shown he is a team guy and if he is successful this year, why not?

Todd4State
02-24-2018, 09:06 PM
Again, let the season play out, sometimes kids will rally around someone like Henderson.

I'm not saying he will get the job but he has shown he is a team guy and if he is successful this year, why not?

Because it may not be the best thing for MSU long term?

I think we need to be careful and guard against the fact that this team will probably rally and be successful this year but that's going to wear off by next year. Yes, Henderson should get some credit for that. The last thing we need to do right now is have a knee jerk emotional reaction and make a decision that is not in our best interests long term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Henderson_(baseball_coach)

What he did at Kentucky wasn't as good as what Cohen did plus he's almost 60 years old. I'm not sure how long he would be able to coach even if we did hire him.

BuckyIsAB****
02-24-2018, 09:26 PM
He makes like 1.5 mil a year. One thing about Cohen is he seems to be tight with the pocketbook. We won't offer anyone more than about 750k.

I dont think so. He said he's given Vic a monstrous number. He will do whatever it takes to get the right guy.

I think Moorhead got what he did bc, 1. He wanted more money for his staff and 2. Moorhead is a first time major D1 HC

BuckyIsAB****
02-24-2018, 09:28 PM
We are not going to get someone from a top 15 program year in and year out. We are either going to reward Henderson or hire a younger guy that should be ready for a big job

I think otherwise

the peeper
02-24-2018, 09:33 PM
You evidently missed the tweet by Cohen last night that said "if Vic Schaefer ever leaves MSU it won't be because of money"

Todd4State
02-24-2018, 09:41 PM
I dont think so. He said he's given Vic a monstrous number. He will do whatever it takes to get the right guy.

I think Moorhead got what he did bc, 1. He wanted more money for his staff and 2. Moorhead is a first time major D1 HC

Exactly. Plus we need room for predicted upward mobility. If Moorhead goes 10-2 and wins the Sugar Bowl he will get a raise- and if we're already paying him what we offered Dan which I'm guessing would have been in the 5-6 million range we would be getting close into Nick Saban range before too long salary wise. That's not in the best interests of MSU unless we actually have an elite Chip Kelly/Urban Meyer type as our coach.

preachermatt83
02-24-2018, 09:45 PM
Because it may not be the best thing for MSU long term?

I think we need to be careful and guard against the fact that this team will probably rally and be successful this year but that's going to wear off by next year. Yes, Henderson should get some credit for that. The last thing we need to do right now is have a knee jerk emotional reaction and make a decision that is not in our best interests long term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Henderson_(baseball_coach)

What he did at Kentucky wasn't as good as what Cohen did plus he's almost 60 years old. I'm not sure how long he would be able to coach even if we did hire him.

Agree with every single word of this. Great post Todd. I like henderson but he is not a top notch head coach. Period. I'd much rather have butch or mingione than henderson.

preachermatt83
02-24-2018, 09:50 PM
I think otherwise

As do i

justwin
02-24-2018, 10:38 PM
Here's the thing:

I am 100% sure that no one feels worse about the baseball situation than Cohen. It embarrassed MSU and it put our players in a very awkward position- and Cohen recruited most of those players.

So, I think Cohen is going to be even more determined this time to get it right.

I don't think it will be Henderson though. If Cohen thought he was the best choice, he would have just promoted Henderson when he moved up to AD. And if we were going to have a coaching search, how many people on here would have been "ya know, we should really give Gary Henderson the job." Probably not very many.

With hindsight being 20/20 we should have just made Henderson the interim after Cohen moved to AD and then hired someone in the offseason. Which is essentially what we are doing now anyway. I think the best thing for our program at the end of the year to do is just go full reboot. Right now we have some of Cohen's old coaches on staff and Gautreau. Let's bring in the best coach we can and let him bring in his staff. We need to try to make as elite of a hire as we possibly can.

Something tells me that gautreau is 2-3 years away from being highly coveted. If he can teach how to hit as good as he could hit, sky is the limit with his background & personality

Todd4State
02-24-2018, 11:20 PM
Something tells me that gautreau is 2-3 years away from being highly coveted. If he can teach how to hit as good as he could hit, sky is the limit with his background & personality

Here's a crazy thought- what happens if we hire Schlossnagle who I believe coached at Tulane when Gautreau was there? I think there would be a VERY good chance that he would keep Gautreau on as hitting coach while bringing in Saarloos as the pitching coach.

If I'm Cohen I open up the wallet and make it happen.

Dawg61
02-24-2018, 11:25 PM
I am rooting for Henderson to win 50 games this year just to watch Todd go all in on him. I love underdogs.

BuckyIsAB****
02-24-2018, 11:31 PM
Here's a crazy thought- what happens if we hire Schlossnagle who I believe coached at Tulane when Gautreau was there? I think there would be a VERY good chance that he would keep Gautreau on as hitting coach while bringing in Saarloos as the pitching coach.

If I'm Cohen I open up the wallet and make it happen.

He didnt take the Texas job when they offered him. I dont think hes coming but I agree we should offer.

I think Tim Tadlock would take it in a heartbeat

The Federalist Engineer
02-24-2018, 11:36 PM
You bring in a name like McDonnell and I doubt the class goes anywhere.

Even with McD, why not keep the bright young coach and Henderson that maintain continuity with a solid program?

It?s not like MSU is a losing program, recruiting poorly, or un-ranked nationally

Hell, until recently we thought Cannizzaro would take us to National Championship glory. Brent Rooker talked glowingly of Cann, that?s significant as he is a gold-plated true Bulldog Why endorse a coach so heavily as you walk out the door, already drafted, loved by your fans if you did not really mean it.

Todd4State
02-24-2018, 11:53 PM
He didnt take the Texas job when they offered him. I dont think hes coming but I agree we should offer.

I think Tim Tadlock would take it in a heartbeat

Here's the difference between us and Texas: While Texas has a great baseball history that is better than ours no question about it baseball is not THE sport there and never will be. They're also in the same conference as TCU and I'm not sure how much that would affect things between us and Schlossnagle but we don't play TCU very often. We also are building a better facility which would be ready in year one for Schlossnagle and we are going to likely be in better shape than Texas was when Garrido left.

I would be fine with Tadlock. And a number of other coaches.

Todd4State
02-24-2018, 11:56 PM
I am rooting for Henderson to win 50 games this year just to watch Todd go all in on him. I love underdogs.

It's going to take Henderson winning the National Championship this year for me to think that we should bring him back as head coach. I'm being serious. I'm fine with him as a pitching coach. Fine with him as an interim coach. Bringing him back as THE head coach I feel very strongly that it would be a mistake almost as bad as bringing Polk back.

InTheIttaBenaHotSun
02-24-2018, 11:58 PM
Even with McD, why not keep the bright young coach and Henderson that maintain continuity with a solid program?

It?s not like MSU is a losing program, recruiting poorly, or un-ranked nationally

Hell, until recently we thought Cannizzaro would take us to National Championship glory. Brent Rooker talked glowingly of Cann, that?s significant as he is a gold-plated true Bulldog Why endorse a coach so heavily as you walk out the door, already drafted, loved by your fans if you did not really mean it.

Maybe McD would keep Gautreau and Henderson but more than likely he'd want to bring in his own guys. It'd be great, if whoever we hire would keep them both. That is if both want to stay.

As far as Rooker talking glowingly of Cann, he meant it but that was when Cann gave a shit. I'm thinking things went down hill after the season ended. Cann had more time on his hands, was settled in and comfortable with his surroundings and started taking what he had for granted.

Todd4State
02-24-2018, 11:59 PM
Even with McD, why not keep the bright young coach and Henderson that maintain continuity with a solid program?

It?s not like MSU is a losing program, recruiting poorly, or un-ranked nationally

Hell, until recently we thought Cannizzaro would take us to National Championship glory. Brent Rooker talked glowingly of Cann, that?s significant as he is a gold-plated true Bulldog Why endorse a coach so heavily as you walk out the door, already drafted, loved by your fans if you did not really mean it.

Because if you can bring in an elite head coach he probably also has an elite staff that he has worked with that know him.

Like hypothetically- if we hired Tim Corbin you absolutely let him bring Scott Brown and Mike Baxter with him and let them do their thing. Corbin may just be a CEO- but if that's the case you let him bring his top bosses with him that make his system work.

maroonmania
02-25-2018, 12:02 AM
We are not going to get someone from a top 15 program year in and year out. We are either going to reward Henderson or hire a younger guy that should be ready for a big job

If we are relegated to hiring either a current assistant or some young up and comer then we can't hire any better in baseball than we do football. I mean if we are really a Top 10 job in college baseball then we should certainly be able to hire a Top 30 sitting HC with a track record. I realize that Cohen did not do that last time but I think that was just because he was enamored with AC along with the bad timing of hiring after fall practice.

Todd4State
02-25-2018, 12:30 AM
If we are relegated to hiring either a current assistant or some young up and comer then we can't hire any better in baseball than we do football. I mean if we are really a Top 10 job in college baseball then we should certainly be able to hire a Top 30 sitting HC with a track record. I realize that Cohen did not do that last time but I think that was just because he was enamored with AC along with the bad timing of hiring after fall practice.

Well, if there is one thing Cohen knows how to do it's hire a good baseball coach. His coaching tree is pretty much a who's who of SEC coaches.

I do think if the timing were different we may not have hired Cann. I have heard that Cohen wanted and reached out to Corbin first and he turned down our job so I'm not sure how enamored he was versus it just being a situation where Cann was the best he could get given the timing of everything.

Dawg61
02-25-2018, 12:33 AM
It's going to take Henderson winning the National Championship this year for me to think that we should bring him back as head coach. I'm being serious.

that's terrible dude. If he takes this team after what Cann did first weekend and wins 50 games he absolutely gets the job. Cohen would sign him for 4 years no doubt.

CadaverDawg
02-25-2018, 01:16 AM
We don’t want Henderson as the head guy beyond this year. Recruiting would plummet, as would wins. Henderson’s former players don’t give glowing reviews as a majority. Let’s just enjoy the fact that we have a solid interim coach, be glad our season nor program is ruined, and look forward to the big time hire Cohen will make after the year. It will not be Henderson barring a miraculous season, nor should it be.

Todd4State
02-25-2018, 02:55 AM
that's terrible dude. If he takes this team after what Cann did first weekend and wins 50 games he absolutely gets the job. Cohen would sign him for 4 years no doubt.

Four years would be way too long. To me, it would be sad because we have come so far since the Ron Polk II era and we are finally back at the point where we were at worst and finally at the point where we are about to springboard to the next level. It would be a step back. Not as big as Polk II but probably a four year step back because Henderson doesn't have the following that Polk had.

At this point I'm not really worried about it happening to be honest with you. Butch, Mingione, and Bohannon would have to turn the job down before it got to Henderson. Maybe even Lane Burroughs too.

Todd4State
02-25-2018, 03:02 AM
We don’t want Henderson as the head guy beyond this year. Recruiting would plummet, as would wins. Henderson’s former players don’t give glowing reviews as a majority. Let’s just enjoy the fact that we have a solid interim coach, be glad our season nor program is ruined, and look forward to the big time hire Cohen will make after the year. It will not be Henderson barring a miraculous season, nor should it be.

It's going to be interesting to me- this upcoming weekend we play in a tournament where Vanderbilt and Kentucky just so happen to be playing as well. And then Vanderbilt comes to Starkville for the first SEC weekend a couple of weeks after that. If I'm Cohen I might go after Corbin pretty hard in that span of three weeks. (Look at the team we have and look at the facilities and fans we have that you don't at Vandy. We'll help take care of the scholarships. You leave the whistler in Nashville and we'll keep Gene and his radar gun under control. Oh, here's two million dollars.) Hopefully some of our major cigar boys are going to have an alumni meeting in Hoston the next couple of weekend.

Dawg61
02-25-2018, 03:09 AM
Four years would be way too long. To me, it would be sad because we have come so far since the Ron Polk II era and we are finally back at the point where we were at worst and finally at the point where we are about to springboard to the next level. It would be a step back. Not as big as Polk II but probably a four year step back because Henderson doesn't have the following that Polk had.

If Henderson pulls off 50 wins and a CWS appearance I don't care if he wears a dress and sings Toto during the 7th inning stretch he'd be getting another year minimum in my book. Have we ever had 50 wins before? That's a ridiculous number

msbulldog
02-25-2018, 09:25 AM
Maybe McD would keep Gautreau and Henderson but more than likely he'd want to bring in his own guys. It'd be great, if whoever we hire would keep them both. That is if both want to stay.

As far as Rooker talking glowingly of Cann, he meant it but that was when Cann gave a shit. I'm thinking things went down hill after the season ended. Cann had more time on his hands, was settled in and comfortable with his surroundings and started taking what he had for granted.

Cann went down when he got that thing on his mind, mighty powerful stuff!

msbulldog
02-25-2018, 09:32 AM
It's going to be interesting to me- this upcoming weekend we play in a tournament where Vanderbilt and Kentucky just so happen to be playing as well. And then Vanderbilt comes to Starkville for the first SEC weekend a couple of weeks after that. If I'm Cohen I might go after Corbin pretty hard in that span of three weeks. (Look at the team we have and look at the facilities and fans we have that you don't at Vandy. We'll help take care of the scholarships. You leave the whistler in Nashville and we'll keep Gene and his radar gun under control. Oh, here's two million dollars.) Hopefully some of our major cigar boys are going to have an alumni meeting in Hoston the next couple of weekend.

It would be worth it to just lose the whistler.

msbulldog
02-25-2018, 09:36 AM
If Henderson pulls off 50 wins and a CWS appearance I don't care if he wears a dress and sings Toto during the 7th inning stretch he'd be getting another year minimum in my book. Have we ever had 50 wins before? That's a ridiculous number

1985, 1989, 1990 & 2013

basedog
02-25-2018, 09:40 AM
It's going to be interesting to me- this upcoming weekend we play in a tournament where Vanderbilt and Kentucky just so happen to be playing as well. And then Vanderbilt comes to Starkville for the first SEC weekend a couple of weeks after that. If I'm Cohen I might go after Corbin pretty hard in that span of three weeks. (Look at the team we have and look at the facilities and fans we have that you don't at Vandy. We'll help take care of the scholarships. You leave the whistler in Nashville and we'll keep Gene and his radar gun under control. Oh, here's two million dollars.) Hopefully some of our major cigar boys are going to have an alumni meeting in Hoston the next couple of weekend.

Can't see Corbin leaving, he won a Natty and he has it made at Vandy. Why would he leave Nashville for Starkville, surely it isn't over us having better crowds.

I'm betting Vandy would match any offer IF it came to that. Vandy has as much talent if not more than most in the Sec. Corbin has been at Vandy a while now, pretty sure he can get want he wants or needs at Vandy.

Oh, yes Cohen may ask Corbin if he would be interested, I just don't see this move.

KB21
02-25-2018, 10:55 AM
Because if you can bring in an elite head coach he probably also has an elite staff that he has worked with that know him.

Like hypothetically- if we hired Tim Corbin you absolutely let him bring Scott Brown and Mike Baxter with him and let them do their thing. Corbin may just be a CEO- but if that's the case you let him bring his top bosses with him that make his system work.

I think Mississippi State hiring Scott Brown as the head coach is more likely than Tim Corbin. I won't rule out anything, but I'm not expecting Corbin, Jim Schlossnagle, or Brian O'Connor to actually be interested in leaving where they are at. It has more to do with how college baseball head coaches simply don't move around to the highest bidder the way college football head coaches do. I mean, if Scholssnagle were interested in leaving, he'd be Texas's head coach right now.

Dawg61
02-25-2018, 11:00 AM
1985, 1989, 1990 & 2013

Wow 4 times since 1985, that's impressive

MarketingBully
02-25-2018, 12:30 PM
Here's the difference between us and Texas: While Texas has a great baseball history that is better than ours no question about it baseball is not THE sport there and never will be. They're also in the same conference as TCU and I'm not sure how much that would affect things between us and Schlossnagle but we don't play TCU very often. We also are building a better facility which would be ready in year one for Schlossnagle and we are going to likely be in better shape than Texas was when Garrido left.

I would be fine with Tadlock. And a number of other coaches.

This is a misnomer. He didn?t take the Texas job because there is basically a non compete clause in his contract for Big 12 schools. That?s why he didn?t take the Texas job.

MarketingBully
02-25-2018, 12:32 PM
I think Mississippi State hiring Scott Brown as the head coach is more likely than Tim Corbin. I won't rule out anything, but I'm not expecting Corbin, Jim Schlossnagle, or Brian O'Connor to actually be interested in leaving where they are at. It has more to do with how college baseball head coaches simply don't move around to the highest bidder the way college football head coaches do. I mean, if Scholssnagle were interested in leaving, he'd be Texas's head coach right now.

Contractually he can’t move to the Texas job.

preachermatt83
02-25-2018, 02:33 PM
Here's a crazy thought- what happens if we hire Schlossnagle who I believe coached at Tulane when Gautreau was there? I think there would be a VERY good chance that he would keep Gautreau on as hitting coach while bringing in Saarloos as the pitching coach.

If I'm Cohen I open up the wallet and make it happen.

Best coach in America. I'd pay him 3mil if that's what it took

preachermatt83
02-25-2018, 02:34 PM
He didnt take the Texas job when they offered him. I dont think hes coming but I agree we should offer.

I think Tim Tadlock would take it in a heartbeat

He's another one of the best

Todd4State
02-25-2018, 02:43 PM
The thing that everyone is missing is everyone has their price. Let's say you are making 100K and have it made at your job. And then another job that is a reasonably good situation comes along and offers you 300K- who here wouldn't take that? I would leave my job tomorrow for that.

MarketingBully
02-25-2018, 02:54 PM
The thing that everyone is missing is everyone has their price. Let's say you are making 100K and have it made at your job. And then another job that is a reasonably good situation comes along and offers you 300K- who here wouldn't take that? I would leave my job tomorrow for that.

My point was that this misnomer that if he wouldn’t leave for the Texas job then he obviously wouldn’t leave for our job is a fallacy. He contractually couldn’t leave for the Texas job. He can’t leave TCU for any other Big 12 job. I’m sure it was written in smartly by TCU in case the Texas job did come open. I think if we offered the right price to him we would get him.

Todd4State
02-25-2018, 03:04 PM
My point was that this misnomer that if he wouldn’t leave for the Texas job then he obviously wouldn’t leave for our job is a fallacy. He contractually couldn’t leave for the Texas job. He can’t leave TCU for any other Big 12 job. I’m sure it was written in smartly by TCU in case the Texas job did come open. I think if we offered the right price to him we would get him.

I agree with you. A non-compete changes things completely.

MarketingBully
02-25-2018, 03:12 PM
Schlossnagle had/has a special bond with Andy Cannizaro as well. That could work one of two ways. If Cann tried to help recruit Schlossnagle here, it might be too much to pass up but I could also see it working against us in getting him as well. Man, it just points out what Coach Cann threw away. I hope Coach Cann learned a very valuable lesson in all of this. He could possibly have thrown away what looked like to be an amazing career for imo something extremely stupid and just not worth it.

http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2015/06/lsu_coach_andy_cannizaro_forme.html

preachermatt83
02-25-2018, 03:49 PM
If we are relegated to hiring either a current assistant or some young up and comer then we can't hire any better in baseball than we do football. I mean if we are really a Top 10 job in college baseball then we should certainly be able to hire a Top 30 sitting HC with a track record. I realize that Cohen did not do that last time but I think that was just because he was enamored with AC along with the bad timing of hiring after fall practice.

I agree with this 100 percent. Rep given.

preachermatt83
02-25-2018, 03:53 PM
It's going to be interesting to me- this upcoming weekend we play in a tournament where Vanderbilt and Kentucky just so happen to be playing as well. And then Vanderbilt comes to Starkville for the first SEC weekend a couple of weeks after that. If I'm Cohen I might go after Corbin pretty hard in that span of three weeks. (Look at the team we have and look at the facilities and fans we have that you don't at Vandy. We'll help take care of the scholarships. You leave the whistler in Nashville and we'll keep Gene and his radar gun under control. Oh, here's two million dollars.) Hopefully some of our major cigar boys are going to have an alumni meeting in Hoston the next couple of weekend.
U can bet Cohen will be courting Corbin something fierce these next few weeks.