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msstate7
02-21-2018, 12:48 PM
Do you expect any lineup changes?

Bulldog1
02-21-2018, 12:51 PM
Do you expect any lineup changes?

Hopefully. We had essentially the same lineup all weekend, besides a few substitutions

msstate7
02-21-2018, 12:52 PM
Hopefully. We had essentially the same lineup all weekend, besides a few substitutions

I am really hoping this past weekend was the product of the cloud surrounding cann

shoeless joe
02-21-2018, 12:55 PM
I am really hoping this past weekend was the product of the cloud surrounding cann

Prolly a combination of that and the fact that we aren't as talented as some thought. But IF the team has respect for Henderson then something like this could be a rallying point. That is a very important IF

Bulldog1
02-21-2018, 12:57 PM
I am really hoping this past weekend was the product of the cloud surrounding cann

The optimistic side of me says that it was. I just hope they go out and play hard for Gary

msstate7
02-21-2018, 12:58 PM
Prolly a combination of that and the fact that we aren't as talented as some thought. But IF the team has respect for Henderson then something like this could be a rallying point. That is a very important IF

You opened thread to see if I called for him to be fired, didn?t you? Lol

louisvilledawg
02-21-2018, 01:15 PM
Is the streaming free tonight?

MadDawg
02-21-2018, 01:27 PM
Hopefully we will win tonight and start out on the right foot.

shoeless joe
02-21-2018, 01:35 PM
You opened thread to see if I called for him to be fired, didn?t you? Lol

Ha...you're ever the optimist before the games. I think that we couldn't better in a better position coaching wise to handle something like this. I'm not 100% sure we're not just flat out better off. But that does remain to be seen.

Give him at least til SEC to start calling for his head.

Homedawg
02-21-2018, 01:39 PM
Hopefully. We had essentially the same lineup all weekend, besides a few substitutions

Who is it you want to see? Other than Anderson I can't think of anyone. We started 12 different position players

Activated Alpha
02-21-2018, 01:42 PM
Ha...you're ever the optimist before the games. I think that we couldn't better in a better position coaching wise to handle something like this. I'm not 100% sure we're not just flat out better off. But that does remain to be seen.

Give him at least til SEC to start calling for his head.

My question regarding all of this is where was Henderson during these practices where Can was basically a no show or non observant? He's been there before and has experience dealing with coaches who are similar since he's been a head coach before. Plus the relationship he has with Cohen I just have a hard time realizing he would put up with behaviour like that

Bulldog1
02-21-2018, 01:43 PM
Who is it you want to see? Other than Anderson I can't think of anyone. We started 12 different position players

I honestly would like to see someone replace Belmont

msstate7
02-21-2018, 01:50 PM
I honestly would like to see someone replace Belmont

You watch your mouth! Haha... give em a few more games anyway

Bulldog1
02-21-2018, 01:54 PM
You watch your mouth! Haha... give em a few more games anyway

I know. Just shake it up once, give someone else a shot. Maybe his head wasn’t in it this weekend. Let’s just see how he does for the next 2-3 weeks

The Federalist Engineer
02-21-2018, 01:55 PM
Opportunity for everybody to reset! Henderson gets a tryout with a marquee program, a full recruiting class to keep together, and a new stadium on the horizon

I’m all in with Henderson, hope he does great

Dental Dawg33
02-21-2018, 02:03 PM
Hope we get to play. Looking at the radar, may not happen

Dental Dawg33
02-21-2018, 02:05 PM
Maybe it'll keep pushing North. Really want to see how our guys respond tonight. Henderson will get them back on track

ScoobaDawg
02-21-2018, 02:23 PM
Is the streaming free tonight?


Streaming??? You think Jackson State has a streaming service? They likely don't even have a camera...

Homedawg
02-21-2018, 02:25 PM
We only have 15 position players eligible to play. All but 3 drew a start. I don't thing we have a magic pill or player in that dugout that's going to change much. The guys we have have to play better.

iPat09
02-21-2018, 02:33 PM
Streaming??? You think Jackson State has a streaming service? They likely don't even have a camera...

The baseball twitter account actually tweeted a link earlier to watch it. So yes, they have a camera.

https://livestream.com/jsutigers1

shoeless joe
02-21-2018, 02:41 PM
My question regarding all of this is where was Henderson during these practices where Can was basically a no show or non observant? He's been there before and has experience dealing with coaches who are similar since he's been a head coach before. Plus the relationship he has with Cohen I just have a hard time realizing he would put up with behaviour like that

As the #2 guy there isn't a whole lot that can be done. It was cann's program...Henderson knew that and didn't want to put himself in a position to undermine anybody. Been there done that. However, i'm sure if/when the subject was broached with Cohen he gave an honest answer. All speculation on my part but I've seen it play out time after time.

Cowbell
02-21-2018, 02:42 PM
My question regarding all of this is where was Henderson during these practices where Can was basically a no show or non observant? He's been there before and has experience dealing with coaches who are similar since he's been a head coach before. Plus the relationship he has with Cohen I just have a hard time realizing he would put up with behaviour like that
I have been asking myself this same question - I just hope that maybe Henderson brought attention to this and it ended up leading to the big kaboom...

RougeDawg
02-21-2018, 02:56 PM
We only have 15 position players eligible to play. All but 3 drew a start. I don't thing we have a magic pill or player in that dugout that's going to change much. The guys we have have to play better.

Baseball is a mental game. The distractions we all know about now, most likely played a huge part in the results last weekend. Let?s see what happens now because the team did not respect Cann.

BuckyIsAB****
02-21-2018, 04:12 PM
Is the streaming free tonight?

Yeah

BuckyIsAB****
02-21-2018, 04:13 PM
Streaming??? You think Jackson State has a streaming service? They likely don't even have a camera...

They do have a streaming service and its free

Homedawg
02-21-2018, 04:22 PM
Baseball is a mental game. The distractions we all know about now, most likely played a huge part in the results last weekend. Let?s see what happens now because the team did not respect Cann.

I played for guys I didn't respect, never had an affect on my performance or effort. With that said, we had numerous guys who had disappointing weekends that I think will play better. Starting with Stovall for sure.

BrunswickDawg
02-21-2018, 04:24 PM
Nothing harder then trying to figure out when you need to go over your bosses head and when to lay back and see what happens.

I would suspect that the Cann situation didn't develop until this past off season. Henderson, in his role as pitching coach, might have not been exposed to as much of it as other coaches either. He also may not have wanted to rat Cann out, hoping he would right the ship once the season started. It's a tough call. I've been there with a boss before.

maroonmania
02-21-2018, 04:33 PM
I am really hoping this past weekend was the product of the cloud surrounding cann
Would like to think so but would the uncertain status of your HC really affect your focus in hitting or pitching a baseball?

Dawg61
02-21-2018, 05:02 PM
Streaming??? You think Jackson State has a streaming service? They likely don't even have a camera...

I heard Jackson State's streaming service is fire

Dawg61
02-21-2018, 05:04 PM
I am really hoping this past weekend was the product of the cloud surrounding cann

Well operation dumbass texting on his cellphone apparently happened Friday during the game so I can see why the team didn't have their minds fully on the series. They probably all knew Cann was fired Friday night and everyone didn't really give a shit about the games.

Bulldog1
02-21-2018, 05:15 PM
Well operation dumbass texting on his cellphone apparently happened Friday during the game so I can see why the team didn't have their minds fully on the series. They probably all knew Cann was fired Friday night and everyone didn't really give a shit about the games.

I heard that too. Cohen was done with him Friday, but didn’t want to distract the players. That’s why he waited til Monday.

Skydawg1
02-21-2018, 05:43 PM
Do you expect any lineup changes?I'm expecting a rainout.

Bulldog1
02-21-2018, 06:05 PM
Lineup tonight
Mangum
Hatcher
Stovall
Vansau
Belmont
Allen
Skelton
Poole
Jordan

JP France on the mound

Barkman Turner Overdrive
02-21-2018, 06:32 PM
As the #2 guy there isn't a whole lot that can be done. It was cann's program...Henderson knew that and didn't want to put himself in a position to undermine anybody. Been there done that.

^^^This^^^

Anybody that is questioning why Henderson did or did not do X has never been either the head man or the #2 guy. Having been both, sometimes it is harder being the #2 guy and not being able to talk the head man off the ledge.

Coach34
02-21-2018, 06:41 PM
I've spent a majority of my coaching career as the #2 guy in football- running the offense and bouncing ideas back and forth. Sometimes guys listen- sometimes guys are too damn hardheaded. Cann was too caught up into what he had going in Florida than his career. Here's why:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqG75UhN6yo

Mjoelner34
02-21-2018, 07:10 PM
Tarp coming off the field now.

RougeDawg
02-21-2018, 07:16 PM
I played for guys I didn't respect, never had an affect on my performance or effort. With that said, we had numerous guys who had disappointing weekends that I think will play better. Starting with Stovall for sure.

I?m not saying they were playing bad on purpose. But if you have all those thoughts in your head it makes performing your best more difficult. Any distractions disrupting full focus can hurt performance.

Tbonewannabe
02-21-2018, 07:35 PM
I?m not saying they were playing bad on purpose. But if you have all those thoughts in your head it makes performing your best more difficult. Any distractions disrupting full focus can hurt performance.

I heard Canny was giving conflicting coaching such as be really aggressive at the plate but also try to take strikes. He apparently didn't have his head in the game at any point.

PMDawg
02-21-2018, 07:50 PM
Do we have someone ready to take Henderson's phone at the entrance to the field?

msstate7
02-21-2018, 07:53 PM
We gonna play or what?

Bulldog1
02-21-2018, 07:56 PM
7:15 probably

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
02-21-2018, 08:18 PM
Haha damn, apparently PA announcer said Nick Mingione is the MSU HC...

Drugdog
02-21-2018, 08:24 PM
😳

RocketDawg
02-21-2018, 08:32 PM
There's a tornado warning in Mississippi near New Hebron. I don't know where that is, apparently near Mt. Olive and Prentiss. But I don't know where those are either, and the map was too close in to tell.

RocketDawg
02-21-2018, 08:37 PM
Haha damn, apparently PA announcer said Nick Mingione is the MSU HC...

Do we want another Italian? **

Activated Alpha
02-21-2018, 08:40 PM
There's a tornado warning in Mississippi near New Hebron. I don't know where that is, apparently near Mt. Olive and Prentiss. But I don't know where those are either, and the map was too close in to tell.

So somewhere in Mississippi. Got it. Thanks for the heads up

BuckyIsAB****
02-21-2018, 08:41 PM
2-0 Dawgs.

Bottom 2

BHildreth3
02-21-2018, 08:46 PM
Is the game on the radio? I'm getting the Basketball coaches call in show on 105.9 the Zonnnne.

BuckyIsAB****
02-21-2018, 08:47 PM
Is the game on 105.9 the zone?

Im watching it on JSU live stream

msstate7
02-21-2018, 08:47 PM
Is the game on 105.9 the zone?

http://hailstate.com/watch/?Live=1367&type=Live

BHildreth3
02-21-2018, 08:49 PM
Im watching it on JSU live stream thanks.

ATTILLA THE DOG
02-21-2018, 08:50 PM
Is the game on the radio? I'm getting the Basketball coaches call in show on 105.9 the Zonnnne.

96.1 in starkville local broadcast only

RocketDawg
02-21-2018, 09:05 PM
So somewhere in Mississippi. Got it. Thanks for the heads up

I listed 3 towns. Perhaps you know where those places are. The post was a little more definitive than you indicated. ;)

msstate7
02-21-2018, 09:13 PM
I have been critical of us playing swac schools, but I am backing off that stance some. Jim is interviewing a retired JSU baseball coach, and the coach has been so complimentary of us. Said we were the first predominantly white school that played them. Has thanked miss state numerous times for making this trip. I think it is very cool that we helped them out some with what seems to us pretty much nothing but a midweek game

Drugdog
02-21-2018, 09:15 PM
I have been critical of us playing swac schools, but I am backing off that stance some. Jim is interviewing a retired JSU baseball coach, and the coach has been so complimentary of us. Said we were the first predominantly white school that played them. Has thanked miss state numerous times for making this trip. I think it is very cool that we helped them out some with what seems to us pretty much nothing but a midweek game

I agree. Very complimentary.

BuckyIsAB****
02-21-2018, 09:26 PM
Stovall is great in the field but he cant buy a big hit right now

HoopsDawg
02-21-2018, 09:29 PM
Stovall is great in the field but he cant buy a big hit right now

he might be more comfortable in a different spot in the order. Maybe move him to 9th. I also don't understand why Anderson isn't getting AB's for Poole. I know he is raw, but he hit well in the scrimmages.

BuckyIsAB****
02-21-2018, 09:29 PM
France gives up 1 hit thru 5 and Henderson puts Keegan James in just wants him to get reps I guess.

France is pretty good.

4 innings my bad

Bulldog1
02-21-2018, 09:30 PM
France may work his way into the weekend rotation at some point this year. Depending on how Billingsley does.

Turfdawg67
02-21-2018, 09:30 PM
Still 2-0? Sorry can’t get the app to work on my phone.

Bulldog1
02-21-2018, 09:31 PM
5-0

HoopsDawg
02-21-2018, 09:31 PM
France may work his way into the weekend rotation at some point this year. Depending on how Billingsley does.

I kind of like Billingsley out of the pen better anyway.

Activated Alpha
02-21-2018, 09:32 PM
I listed 3 towns. Perhaps you know where those places are. The post was a little more definitive than you indicated. ;)

Being funny. I know where they are, but someone might be like.....where?

BuckyIsAB****
02-21-2018, 09:33 PM
Still 2-0? Sorry can?t get the app to work on my phone.

5-0 bottom 4

HoopsDawg
02-21-2018, 09:33 PM
Boy, James has some good stuff.

HoopsDawg
02-21-2018, 09:36 PM
Looked like a bean on purpose there. Vansau bat flipped on his dinger and did a little more showboating after he touched home plate.

RougeDawg
02-21-2018, 09:45 PM
Looked like a bean on purpose there. Vansau bat flipped on his dinger and did a little more showboating after he touched home plate.

Good baseball there. Act like you?ve done it before.

BuckyIsAB****
02-21-2018, 09:45 PM
8-0 after Tanner Poole jacks it

HoopsDawg
02-21-2018, 09:46 PM
he might be more comfortable in a different spot in the order. Maybe move him to 9th. I also don't understand why Anderson isn't getting AB's for Poole. I know he is raw, but he hit well in the scrimmages.

It worked, Poole with the Homer. Now if I can get Stovall and the catcher position going.

RocketDawg
02-21-2018, 09:50 PM
8-0 after Tanner Poole jacks it

So we're playing better tonight. Is it because we're not playing a team that's near the same caliber as USM, or is it because the controversy on the team is over? Or both?

Bulldog1
02-21-2018, 09:52 PM
So we're playing better tonight. Is it because we're not playing a team that's near the same caliber as USM, or is it because the controversy on the team is over? Or both?

I want to say both, but we’ll find out soon enough. I think this team can be really good, now that we’re focused on actual baseball.

BuckyIsAB****
02-21-2018, 09:55 PM
I want to say both, but we’ll find out soon enough. I think this team can be really good, now that we’re focused on actual baseball.

I do too but we concern me on offense still.

We have looked more energized and arent making stupid plays in the field.

I do know this, Alexander and Stovall are going to be vacuums in the infield. Only thing is can Alexander be decent at the plate. Think Stovall will be ok

preachermatt83
02-21-2018, 09:55 PM
France may work his way into the weekend rotation at some point this year. Depending on how Billingsley does.

Billingsly looked a lot better than small on opening weekend imo.

TaleofTwoDogs
02-21-2018, 09:59 PM
The streaming broadcast lags the Jim Ellis audio by 10 seconds or so. Noticed Hailstate's broadcast just had a commercial with Coach Can talking about a safe house (for bad weather). He should have taken his own advice.

Bulldog1
02-21-2018, 09:59 PM
I do too but we concern me on offense still.

We have looked more energized and arent making stupid plays in the field.

I do know this, Alexander and Stovall are going to be vacuums in the infield. Only thing is can Alexander be decent at the plate. Think Stovall will be ok
Right. We’re not throwing routine ground balls into center field like we did last week. We’ve played good defense tonight and hit 2 bombs

Turfdawg67
02-21-2018, 10:08 PM
Thanks for the updates. Sitting around a bunch of NC State and Duke fans up in Raleigh.

Commercecomet24
02-21-2018, 10:09 PM
Looked like a bean on purpose there. Vansau bat flipped on his dinger and did a little more showboating after he touched home plate.

I would?ve hit him too. But I?m old school.

HoopsDawg
02-21-2018, 10:12 PM
9 runs but only 6 hits.

Commercecomet24
02-21-2018, 10:14 PM
Cann left us in a bad situation. However Henderson has the perfect personality that these kids need right now. He?s experienced, calm and poised. He?ll get em settled down and I think we may have a good season. I don?t think it?ll wind up how we all expected before the season began but I think we will be competitive.

HoopsDawg
02-21-2018, 10:16 PM
I don't think 3B is Tanner's ideal position.

msstate7
02-21-2018, 10:16 PM
9 runs but only 6 hits.

Lot better than Saturday... bunch of hits, hardly any runs

HoopsDawg
02-21-2018, 10:29 PM
Lot better than Saturday... bunch of hits, hardly any runs

obviously, yeah. I would still like to see more than 6 hits vs Jackson State.

InTheIttaBenaHotSun
02-21-2018, 10:32 PM
Why was Mangum pulled?

Bulldog1
02-21-2018, 10:33 PM
Why was Mangum pulled?

I guess rest, but I have no clue. I hope it’s nothing more

HoopsDawg
02-21-2018, 10:39 PM
Why was Mangum pulled?

probably just to give Mac an AB.

HoopsDawg
02-21-2018, 10:40 PM
I'm surprised we have gone with Keegan this long. I guess we don't plan on using him this weekend.

HoopsDawg
02-21-2018, 10:57 PM
we will win a lot of midweek games if we go France-James-Barlow like we did tonight.

Commercecomet24
02-21-2018, 11:00 PM
I know it?s only JSU and all but the kids needed this tonight. They?ve played well regardless of the competition especially pitchers and defense.

HoopsDawg
02-21-2018, 11:02 PM
I know it?s only JSU and all but the kids needed this tonight. They?ve played well regardless of the competition especially pitchers and defense.

very true.

The Federalist Engineer
02-21-2018, 11:29 PM
Lot better than Saturday... bunch of hits, hardly any runs

At least LA can hit 250 in the SWAC, that can be in his bio next year

msstate7
02-21-2018, 11:36 PM
At least LA can hit 250 in the SWAC, that can be in his bio next year

He very well may crash and burn this season, but I am not concerned about him just yet. Gotta hit in 3 of our 4 games, right? Error on opening day, but good defense since

Todd4State
02-21-2018, 11:54 PM
obviously, yeah. I would still like to see more than 6 hits vs Jackson State.

Kind of hard to hit pitches that aren't strikes or worth swinging at.

preachermatt83
02-22-2018, 12:09 AM
Did anyone say what happened to Barlow

Coach34
02-22-2018, 08:30 AM
He very well may crash and burn this season, but I am not concerned about him just yet. Gotta hit in 3 of our 4 games, right? Error on opening day, but good defense since

3/16- .188

It's early. We'll see