DJ Jeffries and Jethro Tshishumpa

[ZedFedder]

Sorry if this was discussed in the game thread, I was at the game and didn?t keep up on here, but both of these recruits were at the game.

A lot of people have said Jeffries is not coming to us but just wondered if anybody on here knows if things are looking up with him now? Thanks.

[Harrydawg]

Sorry for my ignorance but where they from and what sport do they excel at?

[Dawg61]

Sorry for my ignorance but where they from and what sport do they excel at?

basketball, Jeffries is a 5* from MS 2019 class, Tshisumpa is a 6'10 JC Center shot blocking specialist. He's raw as **** offensively but he's a great shot blocker and decent rebounder. He's 2nd in the nation in blocks for JC avg. 4 a game. Sounds like he's Herard's replacement.

[MarketingBully]

It’s going to be a MSU Kentucky battle in the end for Jeffries.

[msbulldog]

Glad they got to see that game. great great win in front of a full fired up house.

[MarketingBully]

Glad they got to see that game. great great win in front of a full fired up house.

I think we end up with Jeffries while Alabama gets the Watford kid from Mountain Brook. Both are equal difference makers and lottery picks IMO. In the next three years or so, I think you see five players in the NBA from MSU. As IYOK stated a while back, that will open the door for Howland to recruit at an even higher level then he is right now.

[msbulldog]

Good news, thanks Market!

[Dawg61]

In the next three years or so, I think you see five players in the NBA from MSU.

Nick
Peters
Ado
Perry
Jeffries

[MarketingBully]

Nick
Peters
Ado
Perry
Jeffries

Bingo.

[99jc]

You've lost your mind 5 players in the NBA....if you would have said WNBA you might have been close.

[Bulldog1]

You've lost your mind 5 players in the NBA....if you would have said WNBA you might have been close.

No he hasn’t. That’s realistic

[cujo]

No he hasn?t. That?s realistic

as well

[klong-dog]

I think Holman has an outside shot as well. 6'10 with his smooth stroke and good shot blocking ability. Possibly even Q.

[thf24]

I think Holman has an outside shot as well. 6'10 with his smooth stroke and good shot blocking ability. Possibly even Q.

Holman has a chance due to his versatility, but the only way Q gets a shot is if he improves to be a consistent 40%+ 3 point shooter next year. He doesn't have the athleticism or the defense (as of now) to make it as the "scrappy 2" type you have to be to play his position in the NBA without being an elite shooter. He should have a nice career overseas at minimum though.

[Quaoarsking]

Do you mean we'll have 5 players get a few minutes in the NBA ala Arnett Moultrie, or 5 players stick for years in the NBA?

[MarketingBully]

You've lost your mind 5 players in the NBA....if you would have said WNBA you might have been close.

This is not a surprising post coming from you. Is it just blind obstinance or are you really that dumb when it comes to basketball?

[Dawg61]

Do you mean we'll have 5 players get a few minutes in the NBA ala Arnett Moultrie, or 5 players stick for years in the NBA?

Pretty tough to predict NBA veterans outside of 4-5 guys each year in the draft.

[Dawg61]

I think Holman has an outside shot as well. 6'10 with his smooth stroke and good shot blocking ability. Possibly even Q.

I don't think Holman has the stamina and I don't think Q has the quickness but both should make a very nice living playing overseas.

[MarketingBully]

Do you mean we'll have 5 players get a few minutes in the NBA ala Arnett Moultrie, or 5 players stick for years in the NBA?

Lamar Peters - if he stays one more year, he could be a lottery pick. He needs to work on consistency. He has the talent to be a good NBA player.
Nick Weatherspoon - I imagine he will bolt after his sophomore year especially if he continues to improve on the offensive end. I think he is a lottery pick and could be a good NBA player.
Abdul Ado - has all the potential in the world and we are seeing it unfold from the beginning of the season until now. I think he bolts after his junior year and is a first rounder. He could have a good career in the NBA.
Reggie Perry - has all of the tools in the world to be a great stretch four in the NBA. He’s either a one and done or at the latest will stay his sophomore year and be a lottery pick. He could have a good NBA career.

That’s four we could have in the NBA on next year’s team alone. If we get Jeffries, that could be the fifth.

[msstate7]

I do not see 5 players/commits on our team making the nba. It is extremely hard to make the nba.

[Dawg61]

It's extremely difficult to be a lottery pick. Your throwing that term out like it's basically nothing. I don't know enough about Perry or Jeffries but we don't have a single lottery pick on our team right now and I seriously doubt either of them will be one either. Just be happy if they are good enough to sip some gatorade at the NBA level. We've played against maybe 4-5 lottery picks this entire year out of all the teams we've faced. They are very rare.

[msstate7]

It's extremely difficult to be a lottery pick. Your throwing that term out like it's basically nothing. I don't know enough about Perry or Jeffries but we don't have a single lottery pick on our team right now and I seriously doubt either of them will be one either. Just be happy if they are good enough to sip some gatorade at the NBA level. We've played against maybe 4-5 lottery picks this entire year out of all the teams we've faced. They are very rare.

Right now Kentucky has 2 players projected in the nba draft and one 1 lottery pick. Compare our recruiting rankings to theirs. The only player on our team currently that I think makes it at the moment is nick, and he really has to step up his passing game

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Right now Kentucky has 2 players projected in the nba draft and one 1 lottery pick. Compare our recruiting rankings to theirs. The only player on our team currently that I think makes it at the moment is nick, and he really has to step up his passing game

Lamar, Nick, & Perry all have 1st Rd talent. Now lottery pick I'm not sure about that. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they're in the NBA in a few years. I feel most confident about Perry being the highest possible pick. Ado has to keep progressing but it's not a stretch to think he could develop into a potential NBA player in a couple of years. I'm not going to even get into Jeffries because I'm not quite convinced we're in the top 2-3 for him yet. I'll wait & let his recruitment play out a little more.

[msstate7]

Lamar, Nick, & Perry all have 1st Rd talent. Now lottery pick I'm not sure about that. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they're in the NBA in a few years. I feel most confident about Perry being the highest possible pick. Ado has to keep progressing but it's not a stretch to think he could develop into a potential NBA player in a couple of years. I'm not going to even get into Jeffries because I'm not quite convinced we're in the top 2-3 for him yet. I'll wait & let his recruitment play out a little more.

After seeing Malik, I am hestitant to project a guy to the nba before seeing him play at div 1 level. I do like it a lot that you feel so strong about him bc you are much smarter than me on these things.

I love peters, but he seems so unstable that I just do not know.

[Dawg61]

Right now Kentucky has 2 players projected in the nba draft and one 1 lottery pick. Compare our recruiting rankings to theirs. The only player on our team currently that I think makes it at the moment is nick, and he really has to step up his passing game

If Nick and Peters turn MSU into a sweet 16 and beyond type team they will have to play at an NBA level to do it and that's when the spotlight will be on them. Peters can shake any player in the country and he's starting to realize that. Nick is a physical freak and elite defender. Once he puts on 10-15 lbs of muscle he's going to stand out. His issue is his long shooting stroke.

[99jc]

This is not a surprising post coming from you. Is it just blind obstinance or are you really that dumb when it comes to basketball?

Do you want to put money on it dumbass. Or you just another internet idiot posting behind a moniker. Not talking about a few hundred bet either. Put your money where your big mouth is. Or is ot too much to ask on your Pizza Hut delivery route salary.

[Dawg61]

Do you want to put money on it dumbass. Or you just another internet idiot posting behind a moniker. Not talking about a few hundred bet either. Put your money where your big mouth is. Or is ot too much to ask on your Pizza Hut delivery route salary.

https://media.giphy.com/media/r1HGFou3mUwMw/giphy.gif

[BrunswickDawg]

Tshishumpa just commited.

Win for the good guys!

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

basketball, Jeffries is a 5* from MS 2019 class, Tshisumpa is a 6'10 JC Center shot blocking specialist. He's raw as **** offensively but he's a great shot blocker and decent rebounder. He's 2nd in the nation in blocks for JC avg. 4 a game. Sounds like he's Herard's replacement.

Gene says on Twitter we got the Juco to commit.

[Bully13]

Right now Kentucky has 2 players projected in the nba draft and one 1 lottery pick. Compare our recruiting rankings to theirs. The only player on our team currently that I think makes it at the moment is nick, and he really has to step up his passing game

and just think, they just broke a 4 game skid. the SEC is tough this year. REAL tough.

[Bulldog1]

After seeing Malik, I am hestitant to project a guy to the nba before seeing him play at div 1 level.

You’re right on that. But I like to think Malik’s injury was what threw him off here, other than his “genius” dad that thought he knew more that Howland.

[Dawg61]

Tshishumpa just commited.

Win for the good guys!

Damn we might need to wear the throwback Georgetown uniforms for Ado & Tshish


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydxxS8x078A

[msstate7]

Tshishumpa just commited.

Win for the good guys!
Nice. 10 + 4 =/ 13

Really hope none of our top 7 leave

[vv83]

Do you want to put money on it dumbass. Or you just another internet idiot posting behind a moniker. Not talking about a few hundred bet either. Put your money where your big mouth is. Or is ot too much to ask on your Pizza Hut delivery route salary.

Yeah I want in on this too. You can put me down for a large sum if anyone wants to bet we have 5 players in the NBA in the next 4 years. That’s crazy talk

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Why are we his only offer on 247?

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Jeffries dropped to a 4* on 247. Kentucky may not want him now...******

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

I love peters, but he seems so unstable that I just do not know.

You know they make a pill for that..

[MarketingBully]

I do not see 5 players/commits on our team making the nba. It is extremely hard to make the nba.

This post doesn?t surprise me one bit.

[shannondawg]

I didn't know who the recruits were, they sat on the row in front of me, and everybody including the managers came over and talked to him, even Greg Ellis and he don't say shit to anybody.

[Dawg61]

Why are we his only offer on 247?

He was an ESPN Top 100 player in 2016 when he signed with Arizona State. He's a great shot blocker, good rebounder and a big body. He's very limited offensively besides dunks it appears. Maybe other teams don't want to take on that type of player that only has two years left. Who knows but he'll compliment Ado well.

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/212465/jethro-tshisumpa

[BuckyIsAB****]

I could see Lamar having a good career if he becomes consistent. As its been stated we are pretty damn good when hes going. Nick is a baby Westbrook with his athleticism and how hard he plays every single night. He will be going pro, idk for how long bc of his size tho.

Stretch 4s are extremely valuable in the NBA so I could see Holman and Perry make it bc they can shoot.

Ado seems a bit to slow for me but he could go. Hes going to get better and better.

Q isnt an NBA player. Good college player but I dont think the intangibles and quickness is there to be a 2 or a 3 in the NBA

[MarketingBully]

Do you want to put money on it dumbass. Or you just another internet idiot posting behind a moniker. Not talking about a few hundred bet either. Put your money where your big mouth is. Or is ot too much to ask on your Pizza Hut delivery route salary.

Lol, your pure vitriol for our men’s team will be your undoing. Since you’re so confident we have no talent on this team and have said it many times, here are the stakes. I say we have at least four players drafted in the NBA in the next three years with at least a 3 to 4 seed next year in the NCAA tournament. If none of those things come to light, I’ll ban myself for a year. If they do, you’re gone for a year. Deal?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

He was an ESPN Top 100 player in 2016 when he signed with Arizona State. He's a great shot blocker, good rebounder and a big body. He's very limited offensively besides dunks it appears. Maybe other teams don't want to take on that type of player that only has two years left. Who knows but he'll compliment Ado well.

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/212465/jethro-tshisumpa

This is exactly why he's a great fit. We're not asking him to be a savior or even starter. We need him to play great defense for 15-20min/game & be able to catch a pass & dunk on any drive or P&R we run. Our biggest problem this year when Ado goes out isn't offense it's the defense. Jethro helps alieviate that problem. Perry & Jethro coming off the bench to sub for Holman & Ado gives us a great 4 man big rotation.

[MarketingBully]

It's extremely difficult to be a lottery pick. Your throwing that term out like it's basically nothing. I don't know enough about Perry or Jeffries but we don't have a single lottery pick on our team right now and I seriously doubt either of them will be one either. Just be happy if they are good enough to sip some gatorade at the NBA level. We've played against maybe 4-5 lottery picks this entire year out of all the teams we've faced. They are very rare.

I?m not throwing it out there like it?s nothing. This isn?t Coach Howland?s first rodeo and the NBA scouts love how he develops players. Lamar, Nick, and Reggie all will get their chance to show what they can do for NBA scouts at the combine and if next year goes how I think it will go they will all get national exposure in next year?s NCAA tournament.

[state66]

Jethro puts us over the scholarship limit for next season, so who leaves?

[Ari Gold]

This is exactly why he's a great fit. We're not asking him to be a savior or even starter. We need him to play great defense for 15-20min/game & be able to catch a pass & dunk on any drive or P&R we run. Our biggest problem this year when Ado goes out isn't offense it's the defense. Jethro helps alieviate that problem. Perry & Jethro coming off the bench to sub for Holman & Ado gives us a great 4 man big rotation.

Big guy that is athletic.. can’t teach that. his offense will come around if he is a worker. Huge get

[Bulldog1]

Ok, so do we all agree Perry should start over Holman? What will our rotation look like? I don’t think Perry will like coming off the bench.

[Bulldog1]

Jethro puts us over the scholarship limit for next season, so who leaves?

I vote Feazell.

[MarketingBully]

Jethro puts us over the scholarship limit for next season, so who leaves?

This is pure speculation and based on past talk but it wouldn’t surprise me to see Eli Wright leave. This isn’t based on rumors just speculation.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

I saw Jeffries at the Hotbed last month very good ball handler for his size... he has point guard skills in a forward body...

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Ok, so do we all agree Perry should start over Holman? What will our rotation look like? I don’t think Perry will like coming off the bench.

I don't agree. Holman will start & both will play around 20min each similar to Holman & Xay now. Holman will be a 3rd year starting Sr. He will start Perry will be a big piece of the puzzle.

[Bulldog1]

I don't agree. Holman will start & both will play around 20min each similar to Holman & Xay now. Holman will be a 3rd year starting Sr. He will start Perry will be a big piece of the puzzle.

Yea, we need Holman’s experience in the lineup. But do you think Perry will be satisfied coming off the bench?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I vote Feazell.

No way

[Ari Gold]

I vote Feazell.

Well that’s the only vote he will get.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Yea, we need Holman’s experience in the lineup. But do you think Perry will be satisfied coming off the bench?

Yes

[Dawg61]

I vote Feazell.

Hell no Feazell is a freak athlete for a true freshman. I would pick about 4 other guys before Feazell.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

I could see Perry starting ahead of Q before Holman...Both are 3's ... Holman is a 4/5... but you could see a lot of combinations on the floor.... Lamar, Nick, Q , Perry and Holman would make an interesting situational line up....

[Bulldog1]

Well that’s the only vote he will get.

I vote he gets processed

[MarketingBully]

Yea, we need Holman’s experience in the lineup. But do you think Perry will be satisfied coming off the bench?

From all accounts, he’s coachable and will do what it takes to win so I’d say yes.

[MarketingBully]

No way

I think it will be Wright.

[Bulldog1]

Hell no Feazell is a freak athlete for a true freshman. I would pick about 4 other guys before Feazell.

Datcher then...

[msstate7]

I just really hope we do not lose peters this offseason. No way, he should go, but who knows with him

[Bulldog1]

I just really hope we do not lose peters this offseason. No way, he should go, but who knows with him

I will be crushed if Lamar leaves.

[MarketingBully]

I just really hope we do not lose peters this offseason. No way, he should go, but who knows with him

We have a back up plan if that happens.

[Dawg61]

We have a back up plan if that happens.

4* PG in Memphis but how long is that guy gonna wait

[Ifyouonlyknew]

4* PG in Memphis but how long is that guy gonna wait

He will be committed elsewhere IMO before we know what Lamar plans to do. I do expect Lamar back though.

[drummerdawg]

I vote Feazell.

Dumb. I'd go with Datcher or Wright.

[Dawg61]

Wish someone would just pay for school next year instead of transferring and then MSU slips them some juicy jumbos on the low low. State is dirt cheap. Can't we just come up with some Juicy's for them? That way Eli and Datcher and everyone else can stay. Eli is a sneaky glue guy and he really hasn't been an issue at all even though he had a minute there he wanted out but he's a stone face killa with no emotion ever. Maybe he is from the movie Blade Runner. He's a good player that just can't quite figure out what his role is yet. Good rebounder.

Datcher is just a good kid that does everything he's asked. He doesn't deserve the chop either. Nobody does. Can't we just sneak the lines for good players that don't cause problems ever. Come on MSU you don't always gotta play strictly down the lines here. We can have 14 basketball players with only 13 on Scholarship. Get it done. Don't cut anyone.

[Bulldog1]

Dumb. I'd go with Datcher or Wright.

Yes, I’m an idiot. Do you really think he’ll contribute on a team next year with 2 5 stars and 10 4 stars?

[MarketingBully]

He will be committed elsewhere IMO before we know what Lamar plans to do. I do expect Lamar back though.

You’d think since he’s starting now and basically running and facilitating the offense he’d be happy. Based on Twitter and his body language in games and interviews, it looks like that is the case. He needs one more year of seasoning and consistency to be drafted where he wants to be. Surely he understands this.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Yes, I’m an idiot. Do you really think he’ll contribute on a team next year with 2 5 stars and 10 4 stars?

The basketball program will be going on past next year. He has a high ceiling. I'm hoping he can RS next year & become the 1-2 punch with Perry at the 4 during the 2019-2020 season.

[Bulldog1]

The basketball program will be going on past next year. He has a high ceiling. I'm hoping he can RS next year & become the 1-2 punch with Perry at the 4 during the 2019-2020 season.
I think Eli Wright can be pretty good too. He played ok last night

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I think Eli Wright can be pretty good too. He played ok last night

I do too but someone will leave. It happens.

[RougeDawg]

as well

Been saying this all season. Holman is a mismatch when he shoots from outaide. His shot range makes him a valuable NBA player off bench. He can defend down low and shoot outside. Those guys can hang around a while and make a nice paycheck.