USM GAME 2 - GAME THREAD

[Todd4State]

LOL. Would he or would he not help our team this year if he was on it?? I'm sure he has no sympathy for you or us since he is kicking our ass! Quitting.......yea right.

Would not help- he would have graduated by now had he stayed at MSU. I don't want any sympathy from him. And yeah- right. He did quit.

[Noxdog]

He was cut. That's not quitting. He is making us pay.

[Bully13]

kinda sux that we were all hyped when Cohen was hired and we'd left the stone age recruiting of Polk behind. All the excitement of these high ranked classes and now all I see are "no talent" posts.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Yeah- but it can kind of go both ways. RPI and SOS are important.....but you also have to win. Winning 20 games and having the number one SOS won't get you in the postseason. Not saying that's the case. Personally, to me- when half of your lineup is freshmen and you have a bunch of guys coming off of Tommy John on your staff playing a team that is in state on the road that you just eliminated 8 months before is probably not a recipe for a fast start.

I'm not going to complain about the schedule this year because- I get it- we're building a new stadium. But we shouldn't be playing five SWAC teams and Jackson State on JSU's campus. The biggest thing I don't like about playing this series is because of it we aren't playing them in Jackson.

I don't understand why we continually play so many SWAC teams every season. It pretty much always puts us in a situation where we're afraid its going to cost us RPI-wise come tournament time, and its not like there's no other lower level baseball teams in the south that we could play instead that aren't SWAC levels of terrible.

[I seen it dawg]

Lots of real ****ing stupidity in these first 2 game threads.

[msstate7]

I don't understand why we continually play so many SWAC teams every season. It pretty much always puts us in a situation where we're afraid its going to cost us RPI-wise come tournament time, and its not like there's no other lower level baseball teams in the south that we could play instead that aren't SWAC levels of terrible.

Hate it too. We really do a poor job scheduling basketball and baseball compared to OM.

[Todd4State]

Todd, not following. Yes, he should have started over Smith, but regardless, I don't see why he had to start just to make the 35 man roster. You only listed 8 starters in the field. I would think there were a number of bench players he also should have been kept over. Bottom line is most of us thought it was a mistake to cut him VERY late in 2015 and it looks like even more of a mistake now. As I said earlier, to not bring back your top hitter from the year before is almost unheard of. Most of us certainly respect your opinions when it comes to baseball but I don't really think the cutting of Reynolds is an issue worth falling on your sword over even if you think it was a justified move.

I did list only 8 players because those were the ones where he was MOST affected. The other 35 guys are pitchers, catchers, etc. With freshmen if they are on scholarship as signees- they HAVE TO be on the 35 man roster even if they redshirt. That takes up spots too. With roster management in college baseball it does get complicated. But what we're talking about right now is why a lot of coaches want it to change. It is complicated and good players do get cut sometimes.

And hey- I respect others opinions too. And you know my position on it. It's not the same as others and that's OK. At the very least I hope people at least see maybe what went into the thought process whether they agree with it or not. I'm very willing to lose "credibility" if I don't think something is right and others don't agree with it.

But to me when I look at it and it comes down to Smith and Reynolds- one is a senior who if you cut him he has no options and his career is over plus maybe he brings some other skills to the team and the other guy well, yeah he led your team in hitting but he's a sophomore and at that point he's only hitting for average plus he struggled in the fall at the plate and if you cut him he has the redshirt option and he also has the option to transfer somewhere else and he maybe he can improve somewhere else but my hope as the coach is that maybe he understands that he needs to work on his game and it motivates him to come out the next year and he's a much better player for it and we're a better team for it.

[Todd4State]

He was cut. That's not quitting. He is making us pay.

OK. Believe what you want. Even if it's not correct and even the main disagreeing with me said he had the option to come back.

[Todd4State]

kinda sux that we were all hyped when Cohen was hired and we'd left the stone age recruiting of Polk behind. All the excitement of these high ranked classes and now all I see are "no talent" posts.

Well, we did improve in our recruiting at first but then around 2013 or so Cohen started to kind of lose interest and started looking at more front office type jobs if you will.

Cohen knew what we needed to do to get our recruiting back up to par- that's why he hired Cann and why our classes are ranked in the top five for the forseeable future. Some of it is because we were gutted by the draft and tried to replace some of those guys with JUCO guys. Cann is getting away from that.

[Todd4State]

I don't understand why we continually play so many SWAC teams every season. It pretty much always puts us in a situation where we're afraid its going to cost us RPI-wise come tournament time, and its not like there's no other lower level baseball teams in the south that we could play instead that aren't SWAC levels of terrible.

I certainly don't like playing five in a year. That's way too many. Maybe 1-2. I'd rather play Delta State than Jackson State. They're RPI/SOS killers if you lose.

[Noxdog]

OK. Believe what you want. Even if it's not correct and even the main disagreeing with me said he had the option to come back.

Todd, He was cut and told he could come back and try out. You are making him out to be a quitter BC he chose to move on. Your argument is absurd. It's splitting hairs. If you were in a similar situation I would not blame you either way you went.

Luke means nothing to me but it's plain to see that you have decided to dig your heels in on this. He is not a quitter.

[Bully13]

Why couldn't we have passed on a back up player? how many back ups did we keep that were not pitchers or catchers?

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

I certainly don't like playing five in a year. That's way too many. Maybe 1-2. I'd rather play Delta State than Jackson State. They're RPI/SOS killers if you lose.
I'm ok with playing one of the in-state SWAC schools once, maybe twice, a year. (I assume they get money like in football?).

[Todd4State]

Hate it too. We really do a poor job scheduling basketball and baseball compared to OM.

This is the worst schedule we have had in awhile- and it's not because we're playing USM in Hattiesburg. They get a pass because of the new stadium. I'm pretty sure Cohen never even played 5 SWAC teams in a season. And I'll be honest right now- I wouldn't be surprised if it keeps us out of a regional or knocks us down a seed. Especially if we don't start winning some of these road games.

[Todd4State]

Todd, He was cut and told he could come back and try out. You are making him out to be a quitter BC he chose to move on. Your argument is absurd. It's splitting hairs. If you were in a similar situation I would not blame you either way you went.

Luke means nothing to me but it's plain to see that you have decided to dig your heels in on this. He is not a quitter.

I guarantee you that if I was in the same situation my ass would have done everything I could to have made the team the next year. Good to know I would have your blessing if I quit.

[Todd4State]

I'm ok with playing one of the in-state SWAC schools once, maybe twice, a year. (I assume they get money like in football?).

Yes they keep the money.

[Bully13]

doesn't our construction issue give us a pass on the shitty schedule this year?

[Noxdog]

I guarantee you that if I was in the same situation my ass would have done everything I could to have made the team the next year. Good to know I would have your blessing if I quit.

LMAO.

[Cooterpoot]

doesn't our construction issue give us a pass on the shitty schedule this year?

Yes, but not the shitty hitting, fielding, pitching & talent.

[BankerDog]

Well, maybe because there is a 35 man limit. If that wasn't in place, we're not having this discussion.

But AGAIN- here's the guys that MADE the team where he could have played:

1B- Nate Lowe. Plays for the Rays and a good hitter.
3B- Gavin Collins. Hit close to 10 home runs and is playing for the Indians now.
OF- Robson- One of the Tigers top 40 prospects.
OF- Mangum- Came out of nowhere and a top 100 draft prospect this year.
OF- Reid Humphreys- I guess you could platoon them except for the fact we needed Reid to close and if you take Reid out then you can't use him to pitch. Also hit better and drafted by the Rockies.
OF- Brent Rooker- First round pick. Had to get him in the lineup.
OF- Cody Brown- "But we could have used a LH bat"- that's what Cody Brown WAS for that team. And he brought a lot more to the table than Luke Reynolds at that time. Also plays with the Yankees now.
OF- Mike Smith- OK, maaayyybee. But since we already had a LH pinch hitter with some power it makes more sense to have someone that can defend and run and had a similar slugging percentage. He was also a senior without any options and cutting him would have been pretty shitty.


So, where does Luke Reynolds fit in the lineup? If Cohen ****ed up- then the other two coaches that went on to become SEC head coaches ****ed up too. And then when given the opportunity to take this all world player on their rebuilding SEC team- they PASSED again. What's more ****ed up is the 35 man limit. But it is what it is.

I'm actually not surprised that he has done well against us. I've seen it before- guy get cut, plays over his head to prove a point and then doesn't do much after that. Then our fans act like the guy is all world.

But yeah- all of you are right. Cutting Reynolds cost us the SEC....oh wait.....SR....OK last year it cost us that SR....

And as far as me "seeming like I pump everything up"- well you missed some of my posts yesterday. But that's cool- I tend to be positive in general.

You forgot Trent Waddell. But yes he would've helped the last two years, but you're too blind by it. Maybe read more, post less.

[Todd4State]

You forgot Trent Waddell. But yes he would've helped the last two years, but you're too blind by it. Maybe read more, post less.

You're right- Luke Reynolds is better than Trent Waddell. Maybe that's why Cohen cut Waddell from the 35 man roster that year too dumbass.

[BankerDog]

You're right- Luke Reynolds is better than Trent Waddell. Maybe that's why Cohen cut Waddell from the 35 man roster that year too dumbass.

It's quite comical seeing you get this mad instead of admitting you're wrong for once. But hey do you my man. Think your uncle can post under your name so we can talk real baseball??

[Coach34]

It was stupid to cut Luke Reynolds- arguing that is ridiculous. Coaches make mistakes- Reynolds was one. It happens

[confucius say]

It was stupid to cut Luke Reynolds- arguing that is ridiculous. Coaches make mistakes- Reynolds was one. It happens

Careful. He will start dropping eff bombs on you and Luke Reynolds.

[Jarius]

It was stupid to cut Luke Reynolds- arguing that is ridiculous. Coaches make mistakes- Reynolds was one. It happens

Nah man. He?s a quitter cause he didn?t stay after we cut his ass. Also, my ex girlfriend is a bitch because she didn?t hang around and wait on me after I dumped her and decided to date other people.

[Turfdawg67]

Did anyone see that tweet where Cann was pissed we were picked so low in the SEC West... hell it was probably too high.

https://s14.postimg.org/9s9eyuy4x/58_DE66_F8-_F406-46_ED-8_C35-32_A3_AE642612.png

[Turfdawg67]

It was stupid to cut Luke Reynolds- arguing that is ridiculous. Coaches make mistakes- Reynolds was one. It happens

Probably and can we freakin’ let it go?!? We’d still be 0-2 with his ass.

[Bothrops]

Did anyone see that tweet where Cann was pissed we were picked so low in the SEC West... hell it was probably too high.

https://s14.postimg.org/9s9eyuy4x/58_DE66_F8-_F406-46_ED-8_C35-32_A3_AE642612.png

That's disconcerting.

[tcdog70]

Look I don't mean to offend and I get it if you don't personally use that kind of language... but really? Actually commenting on it?

Do you also tell every divorced person that their life offends you? Do you respond to every person who says they're having premarital sex by telling them you're offended?


How about you just don't take the Lord's name in vain. That doesn't seem like a big request.

[Todd4State]

It's quite comical seeing you get this mad instead of admitting you're wrong for once. But hey do you my man. Think your uncle can post under your name so we can talk real baseball??

It's quite comical seeing you try to call me out for being wrong when you posted something wrong and then telling me to read more and post less.

My uncle knows more about baseball than me. However, he was a pitcher so he wasn't an expert in other baseball things such as baserunning. I'm sure your Mom could post under your name and teach us all about that aspect of the game.

[BankerDog]

It's quite comical seeing you try to call me out for being wrong when you posted something wrong and then telling me to read more and post less.

My uncle knows more about baseball than me. However, he was a pitcher so he wasn't an expert in other baseball things such as baserunning. I'm sure your Mom could post under your name and teach us all about that aspect of the game.

Momma jokes? Wow dude are you in middle school? You are such an insecure little man, it must be a sad world you live in.

Btw, weren't you arguing with me about Delvin Zinn saying he wouldn't contribute here? Isn't he in the minors doing pretty well for the Cubs?

[Noxdog]

Momma jokes? Wow dude are you in middle school? You are such an insecure little man, it must be a sad world you live in.

Btw, weren't you arguing with me about Delvin Zinn saying he wouldn't contribute here? Isn't he in the minors doing pretty well for the Cubs?

It's tits man.

[Todd4State]

Momma jokes? Wow dude are you in middle school? You are such an insecure little man, it must be a sad world you live in.

Btw, weren't you arguing with me about Delvin Zinn saying he wouldn't contribute here? Isn't he in the minors doing pretty well for the Cubs?

Not as sad as your head that I live in.

Don't remember arguing with anyone about Zinn. DO remember questioning why we would take him. And no he's not doing well with the Cubs.

http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?player_id=665091#/career/R/hitting/2017/ALL

I'm not surprised that whatever you do remember isn't right. You've only been wrong about 2-3 times in the three posts in this thread not to mention the countless other times like the time you tried to sell us on Hevesy being an awesome coach.

I hope to God that you're not a banker in real life since you can't keep a conversation straight much less other people's money. Unless you're the guy that cleans the bathroom which is very possible.

[Todd4State]

It's tits man.

That's THE infamous Todd4State to you bitch.

[I seen it dawg]

Ok boys games over...move on to tomorrow

[Noxdog]

That's THE infamous Todd4State to you bitch.

LMAO. Childish, THE. Petulant comes to mind.