State vs Dores Game thread

[Coach34]

Need to defend the perimeter and attack the basket.

[confucius say]

Yep.

Three point underdogs. Vandy has one last three at home, and that doesn?t include a win over Bama at Home prior to that. Going to be tough.

[RocketDawg]

One good thing about the elevated floor at Vanderbilt ... it keeps most of the reporters, announcers, and especially the cheerleaders pretty much out of harm's way. Every time I see the cheerleaders sitting right at the baseline in most places I cringe.

Otherwise, the raised floor is sort of off-putting.

[Coach34]

3 turnovers already dammit

[RocketDawg]

Attendance is rather sparse. Looks like they've remodeled the place since I was there 15 or so years ago. I remember there being just bleachers up in the visitors' alcove.

[Coach34]

Attaboy Holman

[HoopsDawg]

Much better effort from Holman tonight.

[confucius say]

3 turnovers already dammit

Yep. Value the ball damnit

[LC Dawg]

We really need a road win. Got one stolen from us Saturday so this one is big.

[confucius say]

Ado and Holman should have their way. Vandy is small.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Brooke Weisbrod doing a better job on her make up....

[chef dixon]

This announcer is clueless. If we win 5 of our last 6 we aren't just "staying in contention." You might as well lock us in.

[Coach34]

we match up with them well

[confucius say]

This announcer is clueless. If we win 5 of our last 6 we aren't just "staying in contention." You might as well lock us in.

Yep

[starkvegasdawg]

Dammit Datcher.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Dammit Datcher.

Man he's soft for a big guy....

[Liverpooldawg]

This announcer is clueless. If we win 5 of our last 6 we aren't just "staying in contention." You might as well lock us in.

I'm afraid she might be right.

[vv83]

I just don't understand why Datcher gets playing time... he isn't SEC caliber

[LC Dawg]

I just don't understand why Datcher gets playing time... he isn't SEC caliber
No other options to spell Ado.

[Dawg61]

Datcher hasn't had anything positive happen the entire SEC season seems like

[starkvegasdawg]

I wish we could turn the ball over to let the other team back in games.

[Goldendawg]

I don't like Carter and Wright being on the floor at the same time.

[shoeless joe]

This announcer is clueless. If we win 5 of our last 6 we aren't just "staying in contention." You might as well lock us in.

She's definitely not a wise broad...

[HoopsDawg]

I don’t understand the extra minutes for Eli?!

[msstate7]

Datcher hasn't had anything positive happen the entire SEC season seems like

Letting herard get away was a huge miss

[HoopsDawg]

I don't like Carter and Wright being on the floor at the same time.

And Datcher. Usually ends up costing us a lead.

[Goldendawg]

I don’t understand the extra minutes for Eli?!

I don't see many minutes for him period. We get very few points from our bench.

[vv83]

Seriously Howland? It's a 12-0 run why do we still have them on the court

[Goldendawg]

And Datcher. Usually ends up costing us a lead.

Well they are on a 12 - 0 run.

[HoopsDawg]

Horrible D X.

[Goldendawg]

Just like the Mo. game, give up a ton of threes in the first half.

[Bulldog1]

Nice Ado!

[Dawg61]

Nice play Ado

[LC Dawg]

We?ve only taken two 3s and made them both. That?s a recipe for a win for us if we tighten up our perimeter defense.

[Dawg61]

Letting herard get away was a huge miss

Yup. Howland ****ed that one up. Herard was pretty good last year.

[Red Sox Dawg]

If our D doesn’t step up they are going to score a lot.

[Coach34]

X has got to step out on 3's
Datcher needs to transfer
We have got to attack the basket harder

[msstate7]

We flat out suck at perimeter defense

[Liverpooldawg]

If things don't change this is not going to end well,

[msstate7]

Guards can either get an open 3 or drive right by us

[Goldendawg]

Like I said, give up a ton of threes in the 1st half again. Six so far.

[bluelightstar]

Tired of this poor defense lately.

[Dawg61]

This announcer is clueless. If we win 5 of our last 6 we aren't just "staying in contention." You might as well lock us in.

Highly suggest downloading the TuneIn Radio app on your phone. It's free. Price is a billion times better than any SEC/ESPN announcers. Takes a sec to get the timing correct but well worth it. Search Mississippi State after downloading the app to find the feed.

[Bulldog1]

We’ve got to stop double teaming.

[msstate7]

Seems Q can only give us one good half of basketball of late

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Will Perry start in front of Q next year?

[msstate7]

Tired of this poor defense lately.

Yep. We are not going dancing. Last 2 games we have given up 40+ in the first half of games. Our defense has fell apart

[Red Sox Dawg]

Poor defense and Vandy raining 3?s. Gotta step up in the 2nd half.

[bluelightstar]

Yep. We are not going dancing. Last 2 games we have given up 40+ in the first half of games. Our defense has fell apart

I know this is much more exciting for people to watch, but I trust us much more to slog it out than have to win games played in the 80s.

[Dawg61]

Yep. We are not going dancing. Last 2 games we have given up 40+ in the first half of games. Our defense has fell apart

And we've been practicing offense more coincidence?

[LC Dawg]

Really shitty half after a pretty good start.

[Red Sox Dawg]

Why Stapleton takes the last shot...wow

[msstate7]

What a shitty performance

[msstate7]

And we've been practicing offense more coincidence?

Give up offense. We are much much better as a defensive team

[cheewgumm]

really?

[Irondawg]

Not really, once you set the defensive philosophies and are executing them it shouldn?t disappear. We?ve been slow in rotations in some other games but it?s hurting us more these last two games. Part of that is the Vandy and Mizzou guards are better are ball movement because they aren?t great 1-1 guys

And like Mizzou we need to press them. They become turnover prone against a tight press

[Dawg61]

We don't comeback 2nd half we can say goodbye to NCAAs. Not seeing the urgency. Peters totally absent when we can't afford him to be. Such a frustrating player sometimes. He's getting owned by Vanderbilt same with Q.

[BuckyIsAB****]

We looked lazier and less energetic the further the half went.

[Apoplectic]

Why Stapleton takes the last shot...wow

Such a low IQ player. I can hardly stomach watching him on the court.

[Coach34]

If things don't change this is not going to end well,

thanks Nostradamus

[Cowboydawg]

Peters and Nick are the 2 players that make us go. They need a big 2nd half. First half they combined for 4 and 3 assists.

[Coach34]

We looked lazier and less energetic the further the half went.

the zone has us flustered and we arent sure what to do

[cheewgumm]

We should PRESS. We have better athletes...out athlete them, and our press is great.

[Coach34]

Peters and Nick are the 2 players that make us go. They need a big 2nd half. First half they combined for 4 and 3 assists.

Peters makes us go- 0 points and a couple of turnovers

[MarketingBully]

Worst half we have had in a long time. Lose this and the pressure is off cause we aren’t going to the tournament.

[HoopsDawg]

Zone offense was terrible. Better hope Nick can play b/c he will attack it. And perimeter defense has been atrocious the last 3 halves. Did we forget that Roberson can shoot? Leaving him wide open.

[Coach34]

And we've been practicing offense more coincidence?

defense hasnt changed- problem is that we play so much help D- Mizzou and Vandy take advantage of it because they shoot the 3 well at times. We have to stop helping so much

[msstate7]

Worst half we have had in a long time. Lose this and the pressure is off cause we aren’t going to the tournament.

Lose this and it could fall apart quickly

[Liverpooldawg]

the zone has us flustered and we arent sure what to do

That hasn't changed all year. All you have to do against us is zone us. I don't know why that isn't all we see.

[starkvegasdawg]

I think they fail to realize that just because we have no ability to make a three that doesn?t mean other teams can?t.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Really looks like they mailed it in.....we need another scorer(Perry) a rebounder (Woodard) and a back up center (Tsishumpas or however you spell it)

[HoopsDawg]

defense hasnt changed- problem is that we play so much help D- Mizzou and Vandy take advantage of it because they shoot the 3 well at times. We have to stop helping so much

something is wrong, philosophically, when you have Holman on Roberson. Also gave him a wide open look on an inbounds play. I thought Howland may do something different after the Mizzou game, but he hasn't adjusted. It's fine against Bama when they are throwing up bricks, but not against good shooting teams..

[msstate7]

Tsishumpas

Who is this?

[Liverpooldawg]

Who is this?

JC center we are supposedly after.

[HoopsDawg]

wow!! horrible call on HOlman

[HoopsDawg]

wow!! horrible call on HOlman

cost us 3 points.

[parabrave]

Dam even Price said it: "Someone is going to have to defend the 3".

[Bulldog1]

These refs are giving us the finger.

[Dawg61]

Wow Nick!

[Bulldog1]

REALLY

[LC Dawg]

I?ve heard Howland instruct our guys on how to attack a zone and he doesn?t say to come down and jack up three. I don?t know why our guys can?t get this.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

There's the momentum killing missed dunk/layup

[Bulldog1]

This is AWFUL

[starkvegasdawg]

There's the momentum killing missed dunk/layup

Cut him some slack. He?s just 6?10?.

[Bulldog1]

Just lay it in

[HoopsDawg]

X with another losing play.

[Dawg61]

**** Holman you gotta flush that!!!

[HoopsDawg]

Good drive Carter. Thanks for not jacking up another 3.

[Bulldog1]

I don’t understand how someone nearly 7 foot can miss a wide open dunk. Just pathetic!

[Dawg61]

That's off Lachance!

[MaroonFlounder]

I think we’ve missed 4 dunks in the last 2 games.

Is that correct?

[HoopsDawg]

**** Holman you gotta flush that!!!

sucks he missed it, but Holman and Nick have been our best players tonight. Holman is playing with much more energy than he did at Mizzou.

[Bulldog1]

We’re gonna have to start smothering them with pressure to force turnovers

[Red Sox Dawg]

Nick can jump

[Lord McBuckethead]

That ball was clearly off Vandy.

[HoopsDawg]

Brooke is kind of hot.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Went right off that dude's shin. Saw that walking through the room from 25 feet away from the screen. God damn refs.

[HoopsDawg]

good ball movement out of the TO

[Lord McBuckethead]

Second that. She needs a better hairdo though.

[Dawg61]

sucks he missed it, but Holman and Nick have been our best players tonight. Holman is playing with much more energy than he did at Mizzou.

Agree. Ado has ten points I think too. He started out well.

[MaroonFlounder]

datch is out there to do....what I’m not sure.

[HoopsDawg]

Just play ball X.

[msstate7]

Wow

[HoopsDawg]

Just play ball X.

Shit, I saw that coming.

[Red Sox Dawg]

Datcher, you can’t put your hands on them.

We have to rebound. Damn Stapleton sit the hell down.

[MaroonFlounder]

WTF did Stapleton do?

[parabrave]

Get him the F out of there.

[Liverpooldawg]

Just boot X already.

[HoopsDawg]

Wow

another losing play by X. His negatives continue to outweight his positives. The offical warned him but he couldn't shut up

[Cloak]

Howland must have a thing for Stapleton. No reason he should be on the team

[Lord McBuckethead]

That ref just instagated that T

[Bulldog1]

He needs to SHUT UP

[parabrave]

WTF did Stapleton do?

Didn't know when to stfu/

[starkvegasdawg]

One thing about our team, we have a massive dick. We can bend it around and 17 ourselves in the ass like nobody else.

[Dawg61]

Get him a pacifier

[HoopsDawg]

Damn, bad shot Aric.

[Bulldog1]

Holman needs to stop shooting 3s

[Red Sox Dawg]

Maybe Stapleton will graduate and leave

[msstate7]

F?n holman! Dude, you have shot 3s like crap from 10 straight games! Quit!

[Bulldog1]

Finish the play!

[Goldendawg]

Should have let X go weeks ago.

[Dubuck Finner]

Never fouled anyone, ever, just ask him. Can?t stand the attitude.

[HoopsDawg]

Should have let X go weeks ago.

We just don't have another 4.

[cheewgumm]

Please dont wait too long to press

[MaroonFlounder]

Holman needs to stop shooting 3s

Holman shoots 44% from 3

[Bulldog1]

Our defense has been garbage the last 2 games

[HoopsDawg]

more second chance points. Total meltdown.

[Liverpooldawg]

Nice going X, you sparked that one for them. He doesn't step on the court for me.

[msstate7]

Way to not show up howland and co. Jeez... we do not deserve the tourney

[Bulldog1]

Holman shoots 44% from 3

Tell me his percentage his past 4 or 5 games.

[Cowboydawg]

If the halftime speech was about effort (and I hope it was), it didn't work.

[MagicDawg]

I'm trying not to melt at an 11 point difference but it feels like we're getting the stuffing kicked out of our turkey much worse than that.

[Liverpooldawg]

We just don't have another 4.

Then play without another one.

[Bulldog1]

Please dont wait too long to press

He needs to start pressing NOW

[BuckyIsAB****]

Its not just X. Its the whole team tonight. No effort no energy lets get ready for the NIT type effort. Wouldnt surprise me at all if they played like this vs OM on Saturday too.

We went back to early season mode tonight.

[Red Sox Dawg]

Vandy is reaming us out. We need to pressure them after every made basket and start running to have any chance at all. Neither half court game, offense or defense, is working tonight. Time to turn it up and run.

[LC Dawg]

That ref just instagated that T
I agree. X should have shut up but the ref should have shut up too. He wanted to prove he was important.

[Goldendawg]

We just don't have another 4.

He took us from a one possession game to this. A walk-on wouldn't hurt the team as much as he has this year. Play a three guard line-up to give our starting 4 a break.

[HoopsDawg]

He took us from a one possession game to this. A walk-on wouldn't hurt the team as much as he has this year. Play a three guard line-up to give our starting 4 a break.

We already do play a 3 guard lineup.

[Liverpooldawg]

I agree. X should have shut up but the ref should have shut up too. He wanted to prove he was important.

Back talking a ref is just stupid.

[shoeless joe]

X can be frustrating but that T was just as much on the ref. You could hear X saying "it wasn't me" and the ref kept aging it on. Yes he shoulda just shut up by highly unprofessional by that ref

[Dawg61]

How many 3s we gonna give up tonight? Where's the defense from our guards? Where's the defensive rebounds? We shouldn't be getting our asses kicked by Vandy idc if it's in Nashville. Can't happen when our tourney hopes depend on it.

[msstate7]

This is clown defense. We helped off the man with the ball. Wtf

[Liverpooldawg]

X can be frustrating but that T was just as much on the ref. You could hear X saying "it wasn't me" and the ref kept aging it on. Yes he shoulda just shut up by highly unprofessional by that ref

X always says that.

[Red Sox Dawg]

Vandy is killing us on the boards

[MarketingBully]

Way to not show up howland and co. Jeez... we do not deserve the tourney

This isn’t on Howland. This is on the players. This team would be a nightmare to coach.

[MagicDawg]

When it gets down to 8 minutes, that's the cue for the comeback, right?

[msstate7]

Vandy is killing us on the boards

And from 3. And with effort. They want it more, and do not have a damn thing to play for. This is a totally inexcusable performance

[Lord McBuckethead]

Alright. Time to start a big run right here. Time to stop the 17n bullshit and ball.

[Coach34]

NIT- bound...gotta crawl before you can walk I guess

[Goldendawg]

We already do play a 3 guard lineup.

Sorry, I was't thinking of Q as a guard.

[Saltydog]

team, PERIOD! Can't win away from home. BTW, Holman's defense is freaking pathetic and don't even get me started on X. He needs to go (like in transfer somewhere else).

[msstate7]

This isn’t on Howland. This is on the players. This team would be a nightmare to coach.

It is on all of them.

[Liverpooldawg]

This isn’t on Howland. This is on the players. This team would be a nightmare to coach.

Yes, it would. It reminds me of another one a few years ago, very much so.

[Liverpooldawg]

NIT- bound...gotta crawl before you can walk I guess

We have work to do to get there.

[HoopsDawg]

This is clown defense. We helped off the man with the ball. Wtf

X left Roberson in the 1st half and he buried a 3. Agree, it is clown d and a clown effort on the boards and a clown T.

[LC Dawg]

Back talking a ref is just stupid.
A ref being a dick is unnecessary too. They get paid to do a job. He was antagonizing Stapleton. X was wrong but the ref was being a dick.

[Bulldog1]

What is the purpose of that crap!

[Dawg61]

Where's Peters? LaChance hide him somewhere?

[Red Sox Dawg]

I agree Vandy is playing with more effort. Really disappointing.

[MarketingBully]

X can be frustrating but that T was just as much on the ref. You could hear X saying "it wasn't me" and the ref kept aging it on. Yes he shoulda just shut up by highly unprofessional by that ref

You shut up! That’s what you do. He’s supposedly a junior and he acts like he’s in middleschool.

[Goldendawg]

We have no depth, no bench help on offense. If any of our 5 starters are having a bad night (i.e. Peters tonight), we lose.

[HoopsDawg]

X can be frustrating but that T was just as much on the ref. You could hear X saying "it wasn't me" and the ref kept aging it on. Yes he shoulda just shut up by highly unprofessional by that ref

agree the Ref was ridic, but X could have just stopped talking.

[Bulldog1]

Why are we not pressing? It’s obvious our half court D is pitiful.

[LC Dawg]

When it gets down to 8 minutes, that's the cue for the comeback, right?
1:29

[Liverpooldawg]

A ref being a dick is unnecessary too. They get paid to do a job. He was antagonizing Stapleton. X was wrong but the ref was being a dick.

It doesn't matter what the ref does, you can't keep back talking one. That's ALL on X.

[Red Sox Dawg]

Bad shot Nick

[Bulldog1]

No passes and a quick 3

[MarketingBully]

We have work to do to get there.

Oh shut up. We are in the NIT...

[Coach34]

We have work to do to get there.

No- we are a 1 seed in the NIT right now. Stop your idiocy tonight

[msugolf]

Howland needs to process about 5-6 guys off this team. Definitely need serious upgrades in talent, attitude and IQ. Perry and Woodard should start next year.

[Bulldog1]

Rebound!!!!!!

[HoopsDawg]

No excuse for this Vandy team to have this many second chances.

[msstate7]

Vandy is putting their foot up our butt on the boards. Sad

[cheewgumm]

Why dont we press?

[Red Sox Dawg]

Damn what I would give for somebody on this team to go get a REBOUND

[Bulldog1]

Come on and press!

[HoopsDawg]

Howland needs to process about 5-6 guys off this team. Definitely need serious upgrades in talent, attitude and IQ. Perry and Woodard should start next year.

Only 1 or 2 guys need processing. Woodard won't start but Perry will.

[LC Dawg]

We have work to do to get there.
Shouldn?t you be watching a Western Kentucky game?

[Dawg61]

REBOUND THE BALL!!

[HoopsDawg]

Vandy is putting their foot up our butt on the boards. Sad

out hustling us. And we are in a must win scenario. Vandy playing for nothing but pride.

[msstate7]

Come on dawgs... dig deep here! Tourney on the line! Finish this game!

[Liverpooldawg]

No- we are a 1 seed in the NIT right now. Stop your idiocy tonight

Hope so. I think we have to go at least 500 the rest of the way. Our out of conference schedule was not good.

[Red Sox Dawg]

Gotta turn it on right now

[msstate7]

We not winning

[Bulldog1]

29 good seconds of D and an awful 1 second results in an open 3

[msstate7]

How in the **** do you not guard him!

[Red Sox Dawg]

Dagger to the heart. That guy has raped us tonight.

[HoopsDawg]

what rough breakdown by Q

[Dawg61]

Hope so. I think we have to go at least 500 the rest of the way. Our out of conference schedule was not good.

Stop trolling. We are on the NCAA bubble right now doesn't matter what you think we have to do to finish.

[cheewgumm]

PRESS!!!

[HoopsDawg]

oh shit!! That dunk will live on forever. Poor Holman.

[Red Sox Dawg]

Holman will be SC top ten tonight

[msstate7]

Wow. You a puss, holman

[MaroonFlounder]

Vandy makes their dunks

[MarketingBully]

what rough breakdown by Q

The cry baby Stapleton letting us down tonight. He would of shut Roberson down.

[Liverpooldawg]

Shouldn?t you be watching a Western Kentucky game?

Why would I want to watch them?

[BeardoMSU]

Well Aric....congrats...you are now a poster.

[parabrave]

These refs suck.

[BeardoMSU]

That was nasty. He should've gotten a tech for the taunt, tho...

[msstate7]

I am so disappointed in this team. Where is their heart? Vandy has nothing to play for, but it means more to them

[Goldendawg]

Well, Holman just made the SportsCenter highlights for all the wrong reasons. Otherwise, who would have thought Vandy would make a lot of 3's against us?*

[Red Sox Dawg]

We’re on the road, we won’t get those calls

[HoopsDawg]

Vandy out rebounding us 25 to 20.

[msstate7]

Well, Holman just made the SportsCenter highlights for all the wrong reasons. Otherwise, who would have thought Vandy would make a lot of 3's against us?*

If we play a team that can shoot 3s, we lose, period

[Bulldog1]

Dang X!

[msugolf]

Man we are such a weak team, mentally and physically.

[KOdawg1]

Stapleton quickly making up for his mistake

[EdDawg]

I?m not saying play dirty, I?m just saying peters needs to make a really hard pass right into that white boy?s nose. Just saying it?s either that or play defense, I?m actually ok with either option at this point.

[Liverpooldawg]

Stop trolling. We are on the NCAA bubble right now doesn't matter what you think we have to do to finish.

I'm not trolling. I'm serious. I hope you guys are right. If this game doesn't change you can stop the NCAA bubble talk. I agree we were on it. The thing is we can't collapse down the stretch and be a lock for the NIT. This one ain't over yet though.

[Bulldog1]

Q is a liability on defense

[Red Sox Dawg]

Q getting killed on D

[HoopsDawg]

Damn Q. Why aren't you better at Defense!!

[msstate7]

Outstanding

[HoopsDawg]

Let's go!!! Finish this.

[Bulldog1]

Get fired up guys! Show some heart!

[LC Dawg]

Nice to finish a dunk
This game ain?t over.

[Liverpooldawg]

Bad as it's been, this is a long way from over. Come On Dawgs!

[msstate7]

Love that we did not go back to 3 there. Outstanding peters

[Dawg61]

Vandy 2 fouls

[Red Sox Dawg]

5:21 left, we gotta turn it on

[msstate7]

Fouls 8-2

[HoopsDawg]

Let's fight through some f'n screens and get in their grill.

[Goldendawg]

Damn Q. Why aren't you better at Defense!!
http://www.elitedawgs.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=887203
He certainly loses his man a lot.

[EdDawg]

That band sounds awful

[msstate7]

Cannot get a stop

[Bulldog1]

X is hot!

[HoopsDawg]

Dont get another T X.

[Liverpooldawg]

Ok, x has made amends,.nice.

[msstate7]

A stop!!!!!!!!

[Red Sox Dawg]

Stapleton feeling it!

[Liverpooldawg]

Fouls 8-2

As always at Vandy.

[Goldendawg]

Don't look now, but a one possession game.

[MaroonFlounder]

Stapleton. Holy shit!

[msstate7]

Our defense is awful. Step it up, guys

[LC Dawg]

Looks like we needed to get Stapleton T?d up earlier in the year.

[Bulldog1]

Gonna have to step up on D!

[Dawg61]

X gets us this win I take everything back

[MaroonFlounder]

If X could control his emotions, he’d be unreal.

[Red Sox Dawg]

Refs can’t keep swallowing their whistles when we have the ball, Vandy has been called for 2 fouls in the second half.

[RocketDawg]

Looks like another close one at the end. Amazing comeback so far.

[parabrave]

Well since he is hot keep him in and let him pop away.

[Goldendawg]

Our defense is awful. Step it up, guys

We've got to turn up the D. We don't win a 84 to 82 shootout.

[Liverpooldawg]

X gets us this win I take everything back

Not everything but holy crap! He may be the RAT tonight!

[msugolf]

Pay attention to how many moving screens Vandy makes off the ball. Its literally every possession and its never called.

[Red Sox Dawg]

Lamar

[LC Dawg]

Hell yeah Peters!

[Bulldog1]

Lamar is really playing good. Not scoring, but dishing too.

[Dawg61]

There's Peters!

[Red Sox Dawg]

Can Vandy miss a frigging 3