LSU missing on targets- O's ass in a crack

[Coach34]

He was literally hired to be the Crooter. Slipping in recruiting is his death sentence. May be his swan song this Fall

[5049]

He failed from his first press conference. He did not have any type of plan. He declared that you MUST have a dual threat quarterback to succeed (which is asinine, especially at LSU), then proceeded to miss on Keytaon Thompson in his backyard. It has been downhill ever since. He is losing significant contributors to the NFL off a 9-3 team. They have 4 near guaranteed losses on their 2018 schedule, one of which is us. I do not think he will survive losing to Georgia, us and Alabama 3 weekends in a row in Tiger Stadium.

They will fire him Sunday, November 4, 2018. It is possible they keep it quiet I guess, and then fire him after they lose at Arkansas due to morale being about the same as it was in 1999. Alleva will be tossed out too.

[Commercecomet24]

Ouch.

[ShotgunDawg]

LSU currently has the #14 class.

That's horribly inadequate for the formula they are trying to use to win.

If they keep heading down this road, they will be attempting to win by playing Alabama style football with Texas A&M type talent.

Will be a disaster

[Ezsoil]

Maybe he isn't the same crooter without the network.....

[TUSK]

I read he lost out on Surtain and Smith... Who else has YawYaw whiffed on.....?

[Cooterpoot]

A&M about to surpass LSU as the #2/#3 program in the west. I 17ing hate Brewster!

[msstate7]

A&M about to surpass LSU as the #2/#3 program in the west. I 17ing hate Brewster!

And they coming for auburn

[Dawg61]

A&M about to surpass LSU as the #2/#3 program in the west. I 17ing hate Brewster!

They gonna have to go thru us and Auburn to get it. Arkansas will be improved too. Ain't no #2 program in the West right now.

[msstate7]

They gonna have to go thru us and Auburn to get it. Arkansas will be improved too. Ain't no #2 program in the West right now.

Yes it is. Auburn is #2. Does not mean they will have a better year than us this season, but their program much better

[ShotgunDawg]

A&M about to surpass LSU as the #2/#3 program in the west. I 17ing hate Brewster!

A&M isn't going anywhere.

Fisher is going to try & run a pro style 10 vs 11 offense in the SEC without elite talent

[Dawg61]

Yes it is. Auburn is #2. Does not mean they will have a better year than us this season, but their program much better

Alright they claim #2 status. Not gonna argue it. Doesn't really matter either way.

[msstate7]

A&M isn't going anywhere.

Fisher is going to try & run a pro style 10 vs 11 offense in the SEC without elite talent

What makes you think he will not have elite talent? Jimbo is a top 5 recruiter

[thf24]

What makes you think he will not have elite talent? Jimbo is a top 5 recruiter

Top 5 at a Florida school with Florida and Miami being down for most of his time at FSU. He won't have it as easy now, sharing a backyard with Oklahoma and a reemerging Texas, among others.

[msstate7]

Top 5 at a Florida school with Florida and Miami being down for most of his time at FSU. He won't have it as easy now, sharing a backyard with Oklahoma and a reemerging Texas, among others.

Go back and look at his classes... kids from all over the country. Jimbo can recruit

[ShotgunDawg]

What makes you think he will not have elite talent? Jimbo is a top 5 recruiter

Florida State is a top 5 recruiter. Jimbo is a good recruiter.

He won't recruit at the same level at A&M as he did at FSU & will be playing against more talented teams with a pro-style offense in which he refuses to run the QB.

He'll bust

[msstate7]

Florida State is a top 5 recruiter. Jimbo is a good recruiter.

He won't recruit at the same level at A&M as he did at FSU & will be playing against more talented teams with a pro-style offense in which he refuses to run the QB.

He'll bust

Seems you just crossing your fingers and hoping if you say it enough, it will be true.

Four years prior to jimbo, FSU did not crack top 10. Jimbo has finished outside the top 5 3 times (#6, #10, and #11) in 9 years.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Seems you just crossing your fingers and hoping if you say it enough, it will be true.

Four years prior to jimbo, FSU did not crack top 10. Jimbo has finished outside the top 5 3 times (#6, #10, and #11) in 9 years.

Im ready to whip his ass next year in starkville

[msstate7]

Im ready to whip his ass next year in starkville

Oh, he does not want us next season. They will be tough in 2019 though and damn good in 2020

[dawgday166]

Jimbo will recruit. We'll see what he does with those recruits tho. He does get some character challenged guys at times. I do believe he'll have TAM playing some solid, more consistent ball myself. It's a step up from Sumlin IMO

[BuckyIsAB****]

Oh, he does not want us next season. They will be tough in 2019 though and damn good in 2020

Aint nobody scared of Jimbo.

Except for the natty year (which im not downplaying) you could argue that he underachieved at FSU. Oregon beat them like a drum the next year and they constantly had to come from behind to beat teams that had nowhere close to the ''talent level'' they had

[ShotgunDawg]

Seems you just crossing your fingers and hoping if you say it enough, it will be true.

Four years prior to jimbo, FSU did not crack top 10. Jimbo has finished outside the top 5 3 times (#6, #10, and #11) in 9 years.

Agree to disagree.

Jimbo will recruit well at A&M, but he won't turn them into a powerhouse.

He'll be facing more talent with less talent than he did at FSU & trying to do it with an antiquated offense.

I'm not crossing my fingers. I have actually reasons why I think he'll be meh at A&M.

[QuadrupleOption]

Seems you just crossing your fingers and hoping if you say it enough, it will be true.

Four years prior to jimbo, FSU did not crack top 10. Jimbo has finished outside the top 5 3 times (#6, #10, and #11) in 9 years.

If Jimbo signs primarily Texas high school talent he won't do much better than Sumlin.

[bluelightstar]

Speaking of, Merlins seems to have recruited himself onto an early hot seat with Florida?s message board crew.

[ShotgunDawg]

LSU just landed JMarr Chase the 4/5 star WR from Rummell.

He was down to Auburn & LSU & I'm glad he chose LSU. Would rather these 5 star WRs go to LSU where there is no QB or offensive scheme than go to Auburn where Gus knows how to use them.

[Commercecomet24]

Speaking of, Merlins seems to have recruited himself onto an early hot seat with Florida?s message board crew.

Yes he has lol. megan gonna have to do her shopping orlando again.

[CarolinaDawgs]

Seems you just crossing your fingers and hoping if you say it enough, it will be true.

Four years prior to jimbo, FSU did not crack top 10. Jimbo has finished outside the top 5 3 times (#6, #10, and #11) in 9 years.

to give you context about Florida State they havent recruited outside the top10 yet this century. has more to do with FSU than ole Jimbo

[msstate7]

to give you context about Florida State they havent recruited outside the top10 yet this century. has more to do with FSU than ole Jimbo

#20, #12, #11 2007-2009

#11 in 2018

#11 was jimbo worst year (one time) and he signed 22 commits which fsu was only one in the top 10 signed the same or less

[TUSK]

Speaking of, Merlins seems to have recruited himself onto an early hot seat with Florida?s message board crew.

Those cats need to lighten up... Recruiting there has been abysmal for a few years...

[Choctaw Dawg]

Those cats need to lighten up... Recruiting there has been abysmal for a few years...

And with mollin, recruiting will not get any better. much the same or worse.

[CarolinaDawgs]

#20, #12, #11 2007-2009

#11 in 2018

#11 was jimbo worst year (one time) and he signed 22 commits which fsu was only one in the top 10 signed the same or less

Sorry I forgot to add AVERAGE class. since 2000 their average recruiting class is 6.47. Still think you're giving Jimbo more credit for what he's worth.
According to Bartoo only 2 other schools have done that this century. LSU and USCw

[Jack Lambert]

Alabama is 9th. I believe this is the first time they have ever been out of top 5 since Saban arrived.

[I seen it dawg]

Lsu is headed for a Curley hallman dumpster fire

[msstate7]

Sorry I forgot to add AVERAGE class. since 2000 their average recruiting class is 6.47. Still think you're giving Jimbo more credit for what he's worth.
According to Bartoo only 2 other schools have done that this century. LSU and USCw

I think coaches matter. I bet Florida was really up there on that scale pre-McE

Oh and Bowden was a decent recruiter too. Not like they had some no one

[CarolinaDawgs]

I think coaches matter. I bet Florida was really up there on that scale pre-McE

Oh and Bowden was a decent recruiter too. Not like they had some no one

Being up there and being there are 2 different things. as much as I hate Clay Travis here's a link to let you know what it takes to win a natty with regards to recruiting.

https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/12-teams-can-win-national-title-2018/

Paints a pretty good picture of what he has to do to compete for a Natty aka winning the SEC. When he gets 2 inside the top ten within 4 years Ill be worried.

[msstate7]

Being up there and being there are 2 different things. as much as I hate Clay Travis here's a link to let you know what it takes to win a natty with regards to recruiting.

https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/12-teams-can-win-national-title-2018/

Paints a pretty good picture of what he has to do to compete for a Natty aka winning the SEC. When he gets 2 inside the top ten within 4 years Ill be worried.

We will see. Since he got there, he stole a qb from FSU and LSU and stole an ol from Oklahoma in this class. He has also got 2 4* and a 5* for 2019. aTm has 4th best 2019 class... granted, early

[TUSK]

Alabama is 9th. I believe this is the first time they have ever been out of top 5 since Saban arrived.

You got me curious, so I ran the numbers (Year - 247 Avg player ranking - National Rank):

08 - 91.20 - (5)
09 - 91.39 - (6)
10 - 89.95 - (7)
11 - 92.19 - (1)
12 - 93.40 - (1)
13 - 93.25 - (1)
14 - 93.65 - (1)
15 - 93.73 - (1)
16 - 92.54 - (1)
17 - 93.76 - (2)
18 - 92.49 - (5)

AVG 92.50 - (2.82)

[msstate7]

You got me curious, so I ran the numbers (Year - 247 Avg player ranking - National Rank):

08 - 91.20 - (5)
09 - 91.39 - (6)
10 - 89.95 - (7)
11 - 92.19 - (1)
12 - 93.40 - (1)
13 - 93.25 - (1)
14 - 93.65 - (1)
15 - 93.73 - (1)
16 - 92.54 - (1)
17 - 93.76 - (2)
18 - 92.49 - (4)

AVG 92.50 - (2.73)

I really like the avg per player way of looking at a class. Look at Ohio state and Georgia this season... both are over 94 (amazing). This is 2 straight over 94 for urban

[msstate7]

I think frost is gonna kill it at Nebraska. He hard a really nice signing day

[Jack Lambert]

You got me curious, so I ran the numbers (Year - 247 Avg player ranking - National Rank):

08 - 91.20 - (5)
09 - 91.39 - (6)
10 - 89.95 - (7)
11 - 92.19 - (1)
12 - 93.40 - (1)
13 - 93.25 - (1)
14 - 93.65 - (1)
15 - 93.73 - (1)
16 - 92.54 - (1)
17 - 93.76 - (2)
18 - 92.49 - (4)

AVG 92.50 - (2.73)

Two out of 10 years not bad. For six years they were 1, then went to 2, then went to 4 and now at 9. Is this a trend of what's to come? I wonder is Georgia hurting them?

[TUSK]

Two out of 10 years not bad. For six years they were 1, then went to 2, then went to 4 and now at 9. Is this a trend of what's to come? I wonder is Georgia hurting them?

Bama's #4 in the most recent class.... UGA is making some big catches.... it's nutty!

[TUSK]

I really like the avg per player way of looking at a class. Look at Ohio state and Georgia this season... both are over 94 (amazing). This is 2 straight over 94 for urban

It's the ONLY way to look at it, IMO.....

[Homedawg]

Alabama is 9th. I believe this is the first time they have ever been out of top 5 since Saban arrived.

They still have the 5th highest avg though. I'd take it. They will be ok

[Homedawg]

Two out of 10 years not bad. For six years they were 1, then went to 2, then went to 4 and now at 9. Is this a trend of what's to come? I wonder is Georgia hurting them?

No, the 4 is this year. The class is 9th but player avg is 4th

[TUSK]

They still have the 5th highest avg though. I'd take it. They will be ok

thanks for the correction... I'll fix it....

[msstate7]

Usc only signed 17 players, but finished #6 overall. They have 4 5*, and only 1 player not at least a 4*. Avg per player = 94

[Dawg61]

Texas A&M is gonna get frustrated and **** up the whole thing. It'll take Jimbo awhile to be level with the top teams in the SEC and I don't think Aggie fans will have the patience necessary. They expect to be Bama all of a sudden. Doesn't work like that. Jimbo ain't Saban. Not even close. He may be a top 10 current coach but he isn't arguably the greatest coach of all-time like Saban.

[basedog]

Aggies are one of the most over rated programs in the country year in and year out. They win but sh*t in the bed a lot.

[RougeDawg]

LSU fans aren?t happy in these parts. I think the reality of a shit 2018 and beyond is setting in. Local sports guys are hammering the class ranking.

[Bully13]

Would love to hear local radio guys hammering us about a 13th ranked class.

[Bubb Rubb]

Texas A&M is gonna get frustrated and **** up the whole thing. It'll take Jimbo awhile to be level with the top teams in the SEC and I don't think Aggie fans will have the patience necessary. They expect to be Bama all of a sudden. Doesn't work like that. Jimbo ain't Saban. Not even close. He may be a top 10 current coach but he isn't arguably the greatest coach of all-time like Saban.

It took Saban a couple of years at Bama to get things right, and that's BAMA. If you recall, Saban took losses to Louisiana Monroe and our old friend croom.

Personally, I think Jimbo is going to kill it in recruiting just like Sumlin did, and they are going to be soft as hell just like they were under Sumlin. Texas high school football is all spread and finesse, and it doesn't translate well to the SEC. I honestly believe this has been A&M's problem the last few years, although they wouldn't admit it.

[IMissJack]

It took Saban a couple of years at Bama to get things right, and that's BAMA. If you recall, Saban took losses to Louisiana Monroe and our old friend croom.

Personally, I think Jimbo is going to kill it in recruiting just like Sumlin did, and they are going to be soft as hell just like they were under Sumlin. Texas high school football is all spread and finesse, and it doesn't translate well to the SEC. I honestly believe this has been A&M's problem the last few years, although they wouldn't admit it.

A&M's problem is on D most of the time. When JWS was there, they won with a great D and running game, just like when he was at MSU. Sumlin could move the ball most years, but his D was soft as Charmin.

[thedawginme]

Agree to disagree.

Jimbo will recruit well at A&M, but he won't turn them into a powerhouse.

He'll be facing more talent with less talent than he did at FSU & trying to do it with an antiquated offense.

I'm not crossing my fingers. I have actually reasons why I think he'll be meh at A&M.

Those "reasons" seem like things you're crossing your fingers about.

[Dawgface]

LSU currently has the #14 class.

That's horribly inadequate for the formula they are trying to use to win.

If they keep heading down this road, they will be attempting to win by playing Alabama style football with Texas A&M type talent.

Will be a disaster

Can you imagine how giddy this board would be with a 14th ranked class? Hell....c34 would be changing his name to NationalChamp34.