Maholm left off postseason roster

[bully99]

Sorry for Paul but his Braves career likely over.

[Will James]

Can't blame the Bravos for that one.

[War Machine Dawg]

It's not likely over, it's definitely over. We have a ton of young arms that have proven they're ready for primetime and a couple more still down in the farm system. Beachy *should* be back full strength next season, too. Huddy is the wild card in terms of how he comes back from the broken ankle. Old guys who break ankles tend to not be the same guy after they come back. Look at Jeter this year: He was good, but he wasn't the Jeter he was in the past, either. I look for something similar from Huddy. Good, but more like a 3-4 starter than a 1. We also have the FSU kid we drafted down in AAA that has looked really good. I look for he and Wood to battle it out for the 5th spot in spring training. I think next season's rotation looks something like this:
1. Minor
2. Teheran
3. Medlen
4. Huddy
5. Beachy

Wood and/or the FSU kid will be ready as the 6th starter for when a starter goes down or someone struggles. Bottom line, the Braves have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to starting pitchers right now, and all of them except Huddy are really young.

[bully99]

I agree but you can make changes to your roster after each round of playoffs, so he could play if the Braves advance. Depending on what Moreland and Maholm do next year we may only have one or two players in the bigs. Compare that to vandy and other sec schools and we are near the bottom I think without looking it up.

[BoomBoom]

It's not likely over, it's definitely over. We have a ton of young arms that have proven they're ready for primetime and a couple more still down in the farm system. Beachy *should* be back full strength next season, too. Huddy is the wild card in terms of how he comes back from the broken ankle. Old guys who break ankles tend to not be the same guy after they come back. Look at Jeter this year: He was good, but he wasn't the Jeter he was in the past, either. I look for something similar from Huddy. Good, but more like a 3-4 starter than a 1. We also have the FSU kid we drafted down in AAA that has looked really good. I look for he and Wood to battle it out for the 5th spot in spring training. I think next season's rotation looks something like this:
1. Minor
2. Teheran
3. Medlen
4. Huddy
5. Beachy

Wood and/or the FSU kid will be ready as the 6th starter for when a starter goes down or someone struggles. Bottom line, the Braves have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to starting pitchers right now, and all of them except Huddy are really young.

Wood will start the year in the rotation. Huddy will have to sign for cheap because we don't really need him. If he does someone may be traded. Medlen gets his 2nd arb raise this year, so it may be him. They may try to slowplay Huddy to see how Beachy recovers. Gilmartin, the FSU kid, hasn't looked good this year in AAA. He needs more velocity to really succeed in MLB, otherwise his ceiling is that of Maholm. But he's a good guy to stash at AAA as the 6th starter, so again they don't really need Huddy.

If they re-sign McCann then someone will have to be traded to free up $. Uggla and BJ are untradeable, FF and Simmons and JHey aren't going anywhere, so that leaves a SP. Most scouts believe Medlen has overachieved, so if someone will offer a good deal for him then he's gone.

[msstate7]

You guys not mentioning hale. He just made the nlds roster so he must be doing something right

[Will James]

Most scouts believe Medlen has overachieved, so if someone will offer a good deal for him then he's gone.

I don't think he's overachieved at all.

[War Machine Dawg]

I don't think he's overachieved at all.

BoomBoom is the worst Braves poster of all time. I don't know where he and others get this stuff. If you asked scouts, they'd probably tell you Greg Maddux overachieved. He didn't have dominating stuff, but he had insane command that got him into the Hall. I'm not saying Medlen is Maddux, but he has better overall stuff and very good command. Hell, almost all great pitchers "overachieved." It's why they were great pitchers.

And if you don't think Fredi will go with all the experienced guys in the rotation to start the season, you're on crack. There's no way the rotation isn't the 5 guys I mentioned, barring something crazy happening like Wood or another prospect going bananas in spring training. Wood is really good, but he'll be the insurance policy for Huddy/Beachy. I'm pretty confident that Beachy will be back to full strength, though. He had the elbow scoped a few days ago to remove some bone spurs, which is what was causing the discomfort. But structurally, the elbow was good to go. So long as he doesn't have a problem with recurring bone spurs, I'd be very surprised if he isn't the Beachy of old next season.

Also, don't be shocked if we don't re-sign McCann. Sure, we'll make an effort to get something done. But let's face it, he's 30 and already has a lot of wear and tear on his knees. Gattis and Bethancourt are waiting in the wings. You can't take any stress off Mac by playing him some at 1B or DH, either. Most fans will hate it, but the smartest move might be letting Mac walk to an AL team. The time is right to sell high on Mac.

[msstate7]

Unless Mac goes out of his mind and leads us to a World Series win, I think he good as gone.

[Dawg61]

He's been pretty bad this year. When he goes bad he really does it too. He must have the most 2+ run innings on the staff. The Braves need to get rid of BJ and Uggla. If they could somehow get out from those two contracts they'd have 20mill+ to spend on better additions. What if the Braves added Robinson Cano. Damn nevermind I want the Giants to add Cano!!

[Todd4State]

BoomBoom is the worst Braves poster of all time. I don't know where he and others get this stuff. If you asked scouts, they'd probably tell you Greg Maddux overachieved. He didn't have dominating stuff, but he had insane command that got him into the Hall. I'm not saying Medlen is Maddux, but he has better overall stuff and very good command. Hell, almost all great pitchers "overachieved." It's why they were great pitchers.

And if you don't think Fredi will go with all the experienced guys in the rotation to start the season, you're on crack. There's no way the rotation isn't the 5 guys I mentioned, barring something crazy happening like Wood or another prospect going bananas in spring training. Wood is really good, but he'll be the insurance policy for Huddy/Beachy. I'm pretty confident that Beachy will be back to full strength, though. He had the elbow scoped a few days ago to remove some bone spurs, which is what was causing the discomfort. But structurally, the elbow was good to go. So long as he doesn't have a problem with recurring bone spurs, I'd be very surprised if he isn't the Beachy of old next season.

Also, don't be shocked if we don't re-sign McCann. Sure, we'll make an effort to get something done. But let's face it, he's 30 and already has a lot of wear and tear on his knees. Gattis and Bethancourt are waiting in the wings. You can't take any stress off Mac by playing him some at 1B or DH, either. Most fans will hate it, but the smartest move might be letting Mac walk to an AL team. The time is right to sell high on Mac.

Maddux had insane movement as well. Believe it or not, he was throwing 94-95 in high school and basically just decided to rely on movement and command more than velocity.

[Todd4State]

Maholm is still serviceable. I'm wondering about his health though because of how he started vs. how he finished. He'll probably end up with a small market team like the Astros, Rockies, Royals (hopefully), etc.

McCann will probably either stay in Atlanta and give them a hometown discount or go somewhere in the American League and be a DH/C.

[Dawg61]

I see Maholm being moved to middle relief somewhere and McCann would make a great fit for the Yankees.

[bully99]

Expect the Texas Rangers to go hard after McCann as a catcher, dh or a convert to first base. Always liked McCann except as I said before his signing with Alabama in high school since his dad played at state. Maholm will probably finish career as long relief or lefty specialist.

[BoomBoom]

BoomBoom is the worst Braves poster of all time. I don't know where he and others get this stuff. If you asked scouts, they'd probably tell you Greg Maddux overachieved. He didn't have dominating stuff, but he had insane command that got him into the Hall. I'm not saying Medlen is Maddux, but he has better overall stuff and very good command. Hell, almost all great pitchers "overachieved." It's why they were great pitchers.

And if you don't think Fredi will go with all the experienced guys in the rotation to start the season, you're on crack. There's no way the rotation isn't the 5 guys I mentioned, barring something crazy happening like Wood or another prospect going bananas in spring training. Wood is really good, but he'll be the insurance policy for Huddy/Beachy. I'm pretty confident that Beachy will be back to full strength, though. He had the elbow scoped a few days ago to remove some bone spurs, which is what was causing the discomfort. But structurally, the elbow was good to go. So long as he doesn't have a problem with recurring bone spurs, I'd be very surprised if he isn't the Beachy of old next season.

Also, don't be shocked if we don't re-sign McCann. Sure, we'll make an effort to get something done. But let's face it, he's 30 and already has a lot of wear and tear on his knees. Gattis and Bethancourt are waiting in the wings. You can't take any stress off Mac by playing him some at 1B or DH, either. Most fans will hate it, but the smartest move might be letting Mac walk to an AL team. The time is right to sell high on Mac.

Jair Jurrjens. That is my reply to that comment. Agree about Mac though.

[BoomBoom]

I don't think he's overachieved at all.

He's short with a history of arm trouble. Put it this way, when he came back from Tommy John after having been good as a SP, the Braves slotted him into the bullpen. Only by necessity after multiple injuries did they stretch him out and put him at SP. That should tell you what their scouts think.

[BoomBoom]

BoomBoom is the worst Braves poster of all time. I don't know where he and others get this stuff. If you asked scouts, they'd probably tell you Greg Maddux overachieved. He didn't have dominating stuff, but he had insane command that got him into the Hall. I'm not saying Medlen is Maddux, but he has better overall stuff and very good command. Hell, almost all great pitchers "overachieved." It's why they were great pitchers.

And if you don't think Fredi will go with all the experienced guys in the rotation to start the season, you're on crack. There's no way the rotation isn't the 5 guys I mentioned, barring something crazy happening like Wood or another prospect going bananas in spring training. Wood is really good, but he'll be the insurance policy for Huddy/Beachy. I'm pretty confident that Beachy will be back to full strength, though. He had the elbow scoped a few days ago to remove some bone spurs, which is what was causing the discomfort. But structurally, the elbow was good to go. So long as he doesn't have a problem with recurring bone spurs, I'd be very surprised if he isn't the Beachy of old next season.

Also, don't be shocked if we don't re-sign McCann. Sure, we'll make an effort to get something done. But let's face it, he's 30 and already has a lot of wear and tear on his knees. Gattis and Bethancourt are waiting in the wings. You can't take any stress off Mac by playing him some at 1B or DH, either. Most fans will hate it, but the smartest move might be letting Mac walk to an AL team. The time is right to sell high on Mac.

Or let me ask it this way: can the Braves afford to keep all of their young talent, and if not who would you rather move and when?

[Will James]

Jair Jurrjens. That is my reply to that comment. Agree about Mac though.

Well Jair never came close to touching Medlen's xFIP which again was top 20 in the NL. Medlen strikes out more and walks less people than Jurrjens ever did. Truth is in the numbers.

[Will James]

He's short with a history of arm trouble. Put it this way, when he came back from Tommy John after having been good as a SP, the Braves slotted him into the bullpen. Only by necessity after multiple injuries did they stretch him out and put him at SP. That should tell you what their scouts think.

Tommy John isn't really a big issue nowadays.

[BoomBoom]

Tommy John isn't really a big issue nowadays.

it wasn't 2 years ago either. The Braves have never viewed him as a starter, thus he has overachieved.

[BoomBoom]

Well Jair never came close to touching Medlen's xFIP which again was top 20 in the NL. Medlen strikes out more and walks less people than Jurrjens ever did. Truth is in the numbers.

that's true. but Jair was not the injury risk that Meds is.