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BuckyIsAB****
01-20-2018, 04:36 PM
Saw an article in that shit newspaper on twitter talking about MS State transfer 3B Luke Reynolds for the mustard buzzards. Said the last time he played D1 baseball was May 2015.

I dont remember him, was he any good? Why he leave?

msstate7
01-20-2018, 04:42 PM
.304/.439/.370

Todd4State
01-20-2018, 05:31 PM
After being a bright spot on the 2015 cluster17 team offensively he left on his own because he didn't improve his defense enough and struggled at the plate in the fall thus losing his job eventually to Gavin Collins. We decided not to DH him because we wanted to use Brent Rooker in that role if my memory serves me correctly.

bulldogcountry1
01-20-2018, 07:09 PM
I thought he got cut on opening day.

raymond21
01-20-2018, 07:16 PM
He will make some noise for USM. Best hitter on the team at the end of the 2015 team. I suspect he is still here if Can were the coach entering the 16 season

confucius say
01-20-2018, 07:50 PM
He did not leave on his own. He was cut.

Todd4State
01-20-2018, 07:53 PM
Cut = not on 35 man roster but that doesn't mean you can't come back out the next year and try out again.

Bully13
01-20-2018, 08:01 PM
This one's a head scratcher to me. Don't understand giving up on a guy that had put up numbers likes that.

Todd4State
01-20-2018, 08:07 PM
This one's a head scratcher to me. Don't understand giving up on a guy that had put up numbers likes that.

Because as I said his defense was bad and he struggled at the plate in the fall. Had he improved his defense he wouldn't have been left off of the 35 man roster. The coaches were probably hoping that he would learn his lesson, improve as a player and then come back out again the next year. He decided to go to USM and that's fine.

confucius say
01-20-2018, 08:09 PM
Cut = not on 35 man roster but that doesn't mean you can't come back out the next year and try out again.

He was cut. When the coach tells you that you are not on the roster this year, you are cut from that year?s team. Yes, he was told he could try out again in the future but was not guaranteed a spot on the roster in the future.

I don?t consider that situation to be leaving on one?s own.

Todd4State
01-20-2018, 08:10 PM
And to add he wouldn't have played a lot in 2016 with Collins at third, an outfield of Mangum, Robson, and Humphreys, and Rooker at DH.

confucius say
01-20-2018, 08:11 PM
His defense was not worse than Collins?s. That?s the real question, would you have rather had Reynolds than Collins? Personally, I would have kept both to have reynolds?s LH bat situationally at least, but Cohen didn?t want to do that.

Todd4State
01-20-2018, 08:13 PM
He was cut. When the coach tells you that you are not on the roster this year, you are cut from that year?s team. Yes, he was told he could try out again in the future but was not guaranteed a spot on the roster in the future.

I don?t consider that situation to be leaving on one?s own.

Depends on how you look at it I suppose. Cut to me means you have no option to return. Having the option to return in the future with an improved performance in the summer and spring to me doesn't mean you are cut from the program.

My interpretation is close to how the media defines "cut" based on Elih Marrero's arrest in May or June of last year too.

confucius say
01-20-2018, 08:13 PM
And to add he wouldn't have played a lot in 2016 with Collins at third, an outfield of Mangum, Robson, and Humphreys, and Rooker at DH.

True, his value was as a lh option off the bench or to DH when hump was struggling, which was most of year (move rooker from DH to left and DH Reynolds).

Todd4State
01-20-2018, 08:18 PM
His defense was not worse than Collins?s. That?s the real question, would you have rather had Reynolds than Collins? Personally, I would have kept both to have reynolds?s LH bat situationally at least, but Cohen didn?t want to do that.

I disagree with that about Collins. Collins was a much better option defensively and he hit over 10 home runs which Reynolds wouldn't have been able to do. Collins was drafted by MLB. I can't see that happening with Reynolds. And again- Reynolds struggled in the fall. That was taken into account by the staff as well.

confucius say
01-20-2018, 08:28 PM
I disagree with that about Collins. Collins was a much better option defensively and he hit over 10 home runs which Reynolds wouldn't have been able to do. Collins was drafted by MLB. I can't see that happening with Reynolds. And again- Reynolds struggled in the fall. That was taken into account by the staff as well.

Collins may have been marginally better at third. He was pretty bad over there.

I didn?t remember 10 bombs from him in 2016. That?s impressive. Guessing he hit .245 though. And Reynolds could fly out of the box. Was second fastest time to First behind Robson. Neither collins nor Reynolds are pro guys.

All considered, I don?t disagree collins was the better option at third. But see my post above as to why I would have kept both.

Todd4State
01-20-2018, 08:37 PM
Collins may have been marginally better at third. He was pretty bad over there.

I didn?t remember 10 bombs from him in 2016. That?s impressive. Guessing he hit .245 though. And Reynolds could fly out of the box. Was second fastest time to First behind Robson. Neither collins nor Reynolds are pro guys.

All considered, I don?t disagree collins was the better option at third. But see my post above as to why I would have kept both.

10 home runs 39 RBI's and hit .302. Slugged over 500 too. I agree Collins wasn't great at third but still IMO better defensively than Reynolds. Plus Gavin essentially equalled his average with much more power. Gavin is playing third in the minors right now but I doubt he makes it to MLB.

Steakonastick
01-20-2018, 08:51 PM
He’s a 1B/DH with little power.

The Federalist Engineer
01-21-2018, 07:25 PM
He hit 370 in the SEC on a miserablely bad and unlucky team...he was a good player, many circumstances came into play on his transfer

I bet he has a great all Conference year for USM is what ever Conference they play in. What Conference do they play in? It’s not worth a google.

The Federalist Engineer
01-21-2018, 07:40 PM
10 home runs 39 RBI's and hit .302. Slugged over 500 too. I agree Collins wasn't great at third but still IMO better defensively than Reynolds. Plus Gavin essentially equalled his average with much more power. Gavin is playing third in the minors right now but I doubt he makes it to MLB.

I agree, Collins had a great year at 3B and had a steady bat that got better late. Made some errors but never in a big moment or big game.

ZedFedder
01-21-2018, 11:43 PM
Hope he does well. Was done pretty dirty by Cohen.

Todd4State
01-22-2018, 12:34 AM
Hope he does well. Was done pretty dirty by Cohen.

How? He was told to improve his defense in the offseason and he didn't do it. And then he struggled at the plate in the fall. Who should Cohen have left off of the 35 man roster instead? No question he would have "made the team" if there are no roster limits. Each player is responsible for their development and progress to a degree. That's part of the reason why we send them off to Massachusetts or Alaska for the summer. Luke is why he isn't on the team anymore.

The Federalist Engineer
01-22-2018, 02:23 AM
Hope he does well. Was done pretty dirty by Cohen.

I think I would have kept a 370 hitter from an actual season even with a bad Fall. This kid is hitter for sure.

I bet with OF training he catches the fly ball that Humphries dropped to cost us the Arizona series. Hump never hit pitchers with decent ability but Reynolds seemed to hit anybody - low power though

Todd4State
01-22-2018, 09:03 AM
I think I would have kept a 370 hitter from an actual season even with a bad Fall. This kid is hitter for sure.

I bet with OF training he catches the fly ball that Humphries dropped to cost us the Arizona series. Hump never hit pitchers with decent ability but Reynolds seemed to hit anybody - low power though

Reid actually hit even better than Collins did at .310 and hit .280 in SEC play. All 5 home runs he hit were in SEC play too.

It's interesting to me how our fans have forgotten how good some of our players were just a couple of years ago and yet make Luke Reynolds out to be a lot better than he was.

I mean we could have used one of the guys that beat out Luke Reynolds like Cody Brown. And I would have been outraged had Cohen made Brown sit out.

I don't mean to dog Luke Reynolds but he's essentially a guy that got hot late in the season on a bad team. He was hitting below the Mendoza line for most of that year and even as bad as that team was defensively he only played in the field three times. I highly highly doubt that Reynolds would have made that play defensively that Reid missed. Cody Brown probably makes it. Mike Smith probably makes it too.

Bully13
01-22-2018, 10:18 AM
isn't there an old baseball saying " If you can drive in more than you let through, you make the team" ?

BrunswickDawg
01-22-2018, 10:26 AM
Reid actually hit even better than Collins did at .310 and hit .280 in SEC play. All 5 home runs he hit were in SEC play too.

It's interesting to me how our fans have forgotten how good some of our players were just a couple of years ago and yet make Luke Reynolds out to be a lot better than he was.

I mean we could have used one of the guys that beat out Luke Reynolds like Cody Brown. And I would have been outraged had Cohen made Brown sit out.

I don't mean to dog Luke Reynolds but he's essentially a guy that got hot late in the season on a bad team. He was hitting below the Mendoza line for most of that year and even as bad as that team was defensively he only played in the field three times. I highly highly doubt that Reynolds would have made that play defensively that Reid missed. Cody Brown probably makes it. Mike Smith probably makes it too.

People also seem to have forgotten what a shitshow that 2015 team was, and how Cohen cleaned house. It was pretty obvious to anyone that if Cohen gave you a directive after '15 on what you needed to do to be there in '16, you better do it. 8-22 wasn't going to happen again. Reynolds apparently didn't do it.

5049
01-22-2018, 10:48 AM
People also seem to have forgotten what a shitshow that 2015 team was, and how Cohen cleaned house. It was pretty obvious to anyone that if Cohen gave you a directive after '15 on what you needed to do to be there in '16, you better do it. 8-22 wasn't going to happen again. Reynolds apparently didn't do it.
Cohen had actually begun to sell his soul and lose control by that time, in all honesty. And it was really unnecessary, we lost a ton of close games in 2015 (remember the 8th inning meltdowns) and anybody who paid attention knew that the sophomore class was going to rise. They simply took longer to develop than we thought, Dakota Hudson did not break out until the end of the year, I mean that dude should have been the Friday night guy

Cannizaro came in at the perfect time, same with Moorhead, as far as all that sort of thing goes

Coach34
01-22-2018, 11:11 AM
Unless he is a team cancer- you dont cut someone that hit .370.

confucius say
01-22-2018, 11:19 AM
Hump should have been strictly a pitcher. Huge hole in swing and I remember C34 correctly pounding the point that he was atrocious against righties.

Rooker was a better hitter and of in 2016 than hump and should have been in left. I would take Reynolds as a lh DH over hump as a DH. Or at least platoon vs righty/lefty.

And to answer the question of who should have been left off, how about Michael smith and his .214 avg and strikeouts in half his at bats. Would much rather have had Reynolds pinch hit than smith against Arizona in the game that ended our season.

Coach34
01-22-2018, 11:22 AM
Hump should have been strictly a pitcher. Huge hole in swing and I remember C34 correctly pounding the point that he was atrocious against righties.

Rooker was a better and of in 2016 than hump and should have been in left. I would take Reynolds as a lh DH over hump as a DH. Or at least platoon vs righty/lefty.

And to answer the question of who should have been left off, how about Michael smith and his .214 avg and strikeouts in half his at bats. Would much rather have had Reynolds pinch hit than smith against Arizona in the game that ended our season.

exactly. Hump was so awful vs RHP's we didnt even start him in the last game of the Super. But he absolutely hammered LHP's that year. A platoon DH with Hump pitching more would have helped that team alot more

confucius say
01-22-2018, 11:29 AM
exactly. Hump was so awful vs RHP's we didnt even start him in the last game of the Super. But he absolutely hammered LHP's that year. A platoon DH with Hump pitching more would have helped that team alot more

How you cut a lh Reynolds who hit .370 against sec pitching the year before and keep Michael smith who hit .208 the year before and .176 the year before against sec pitching is an all time wtf by Cohen.

The Federalist Engineer
01-22-2018, 09:06 PM
Hump should have been strictly a pitcher. Huge hole in swing and I remember C34 correctly pounding the point that he was atrocious against righties.

Rooker was a better hitter and of in 2016 than hump and should have been in left. I would take Reynolds as a lh DH over hump as a DH. Or at least platoon vs righty/lefty.

And to answer the question of who should have been left off, how about Michael smith and his .214 avg and strikeouts in half his at bats. Would much rather have had Reynolds pinch hit than smith against Arizona in the game that ended our season.

2016 was a great season but I will be haunted by Arizona until we finally win a title

We had those bastards on the ropes early in game-1 and we let them off the hook. Then we blew a great Sexton start in game-2

With one win we could have pitched our hottest pitcher and the Arizona arm killers had nothing left for game-3

confucius say
01-22-2018, 11:54 PM
2016 was a great season but I will be haunted by Arizona until we finally win a title

We had those bastards on the ropes early in game-1 and we let them off the hook. Then we blew a great Sexton start in game-2

With one win we could have pitched our hottest pitcher and the Arizona arm killers had nothing left for game-3

No doubt Houston would have shoved it in game 3.