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MetEdDawg
01-19-2018, 08:33 AM
Our RPI is currently sitting at 77 right now. I don't know how many of you have paid really close attention to the RPI of our opponents recently, but our non conference opponents are absolutely hammering our RPI. As of right now we have this on our RPI:

Alabama State - 340 in RPI
Florida A&M - 345 in RPI
Green Bay - 341 in RPI
UT Martin - 339 in RPI

To put that in perspective, there's 351 teams in D1 basketball, so 4 of our non conference opponents are currently in the bottom 12 of RPI in all of college basketball. That should be unacceptable for our program at any point in time.

Add to that 4 other opponents with an RPI in the 200's and you make for one trashy non conference schedule. I know we are addressing this some next year, but damn this has killed us and I believe has left us unprepared for the grind of a much better overall SEC. I think most of us believe that playing good teams helps prepare you. I think conversely, playing bad teams leaves you unprepared to play really good teams. Considering that our 1st 3 opponents are in the 340's in RPI, I think we really limited our potential by not having a bit more of a challenging schedule.

99jc
01-19-2018, 08:40 AM
Why do we even care this team is gonna get plunked by Bama and most likely win only 3 more games this season.

msstate7
01-19-2018, 08:45 AM
win only 3 more games this season.

I will take the over. Name the stakes

Ari Gold
01-19-2018, 09:14 AM
Why do we even care this team is gonna get plunked by Bama and most likely win only 3 more games this season.

Damn I sure hope we don’t get plunked too bad. Getting plunked this weekend would suck.

Yeah it sucks so bad to have a team that is on the bubble watch.

Tbonewannabe
01-19-2018, 10:12 AM
We are still one of the youngest teams in the country this year. Contrary to twitter, we don't have a lottery pick on our team and our player leadership seems to be lacking. Hopefully they continue to develop and maybe sneak into the NIT or possibly the NCAAs. This team just desperately needs to find an identity on offense because every game it seems like nothing is consistent.

biggun
01-19-2018, 10:19 AM
Sloppy ball handling, horrible shot selection, and below average on ball defense typically doesn’t add up to a bunch of road victories plus Bama is pretty good, we are not. Bama by a bunch.

msbulldog
01-19-2018, 01:23 PM
We beat Bama on the road.

Bully13
01-19-2018, 02:08 PM
We beat Bama on the road.

WTF?

TUSK
01-19-2018, 02:19 PM
WTF?

FIFY

preachermatt83
01-19-2018, 02:28 PM
I think we win this weekend

TALL DAWG
01-19-2018, 02:42 PM
I think we win this weekend

IF we can go in and control their players with ...the BIG hair....we have a shot.
Lets give them a hair cut Saturday!

MetEdDawg
01-19-2018, 02:48 PM
We can't win this weekend. Not sure what the board would do if we had a win against a good team on our resume.

MarketingBully
01-19-2018, 03:04 PM
This looks like a thread that was created before Tuesday’s game. I do think we win this weekend because at the very least Sexton will be slowed by injury or may not be able to play. Hall has a broken wrist and will be slowed as well. I doubt Petty is going to go off for another 27 like he had to do to beat Auburn. Y’alls ability to focus on the absolute negative is amazing. You don’t even make any good points.

drunkernhelldawg
01-19-2018, 03:05 PM
Why do we even care this team is gonna get plunked by Bama and most likely win only 3 more games this season.

I think we win a minimum of half of our remaining games. We'll be over .500 in conference.

MarketingBully
01-19-2018, 03:09 PM
Sloppy ball handling, horrible shot selection, and below average on ball defense typically doesn’t add up to a bunch of road victories plus Bama is pretty good, we are not. Bama by a bunch.

Below average on ball defense hasn’t described us at all this year. It’s almost like you have combined our defense from last year and combined our offensive struggles from the second half of games this year into this imaginary team you want to bitch about. Bama is 12-6 and possibly will be missing their best player with one of their other better post players being limited. Alabama may win the game but it won’t be “by a bunch” as you say.

Barkman Turner Overdrive
01-19-2018, 10:07 PM
I will take the over. Name the stakes

I wouldn’t put any faith in what 99jc has to say. Pretty much 180 degrees out of phase.


I have a cousin who works for the NCAA infractions committee. I askedo him several weeks ago about tsun and what his thoughts were...( he was not part of the TSUN investigation) and while he would not comment directly on them he smiled and said I know your a Mississippi State Alum and I feel strongly you will not be disappointed.

GTHOM. That's all I have to say about that.



This booster is a well know female, a 7 figure donor, a 3rd generation alumni booster and according to her was family friends with the Vaults.

She stated 3 things that really got my attention.
1) She stated that most prominent boosters do not blame Miss State or any of our players for their problems. It was that Hugh Freeze and Alabama that was responsible.
2) They (the boosters) did not have a problem with the ca$h or other material things provided the players but the providing of prostitution for players was unacceptable.
3) They were informed that the NCAA had indeed put the death penalty on the table if the evidence came to light on the prostitution. She went on about The prostitution stuff for a while.

I asked her what they felt was going to happen. She said the president and Ross B. Have eluded that multi year bowl bans, severe scholarship reductions, forfeiture of games, loss of bowl revenue received, among other things should be expected. She then said the program was at the bottom of the barrel and would soon be under the barrel. She then said if the prostitution charges were proved many prominent boosters would immediately stop their contributions.

Nothing really new here but it's the 1st time someone with real insight on the university ( not what some dumbass poster on nafoom thinks) has been this truthful. It just reaffirms what we all felt and know is going to happen.

Click an Add Shitbirds.

Cooterpoot
01-20-2018, 12:38 AM
We lose when we play good teams. It’s why our schedule is so bad. The End.

msstate7
01-20-2018, 07:50 AM
We lose when we play good teams. It’s why our schedule is so bad. The End.

Ark #26 rpi.

Leeshouldveflanked
01-20-2018, 08:22 AM
I remember Stans taking a top 20 team into Tuscaloosa and getting beat by about fifty... So it happens.

KentuckyDawg13
01-20-2018, 08:23 AM
Damn facts.

Some pitiful fans on this board (not you msstate7). If one can take away anything, is our team is improving just not at the rate we all want to see.
If, big IF, we beat bama, all the downers here will be changing their tunes. If we lose, more of the same.

Support the team, amazing what positive vibes can do for all.

Coach34
01-20-2018, 08:54 AM
Need more Holman at the 5 today if we want to win.

msstate7
01-20-2018, 09:15 AM
Need more Holman at the 5 today if we want to win.

Meh, rather ado, but when ado out, sure

MCsMGs
01-20-2018, 09:35 AM
I think for either or both of them to be effective, Lamar and Nick are gonna have to penetrate and break down the defense so we can get the inside/out game going. We simply can't get lazy on the perimeter, run down the shot clock and take bad shots. If we ever needed Lamar to play with swagger AND control his emotions, today is the day. Holman plays the 5 when we go "small" and we were very effective against Vandy offensively like that. Unfortunately, that's also when we gave up a number of easy layups from poor defensive rotations...we won't get away with that on the road at Bama.

BTW, anyone going to the game? I see where it's a sellout...gonna be a hostile environment!

msstate7
01-20-2018, 09:43 AM
We really need nick get it going again. He has not played very well since the ark game.

ETA ? until I hear for sure Sexton is not playing, I assume he will. If nick can slow him down, I do not care if nick even scores. Someone will have to slow Sexton down

RougeDawg
01-20-2018, 11:07 AM
Meh, rather ado, but when ado out, sure

??? Holman is well on his way to playing himself onto a NBA roster. His outside shot keeps improving and his length makes him a huge mismatch.

We can win this game. We cannot be sloppy. And most importantly we cannot allow one single player to heat up like we seem to do most games. The reason Bama beat Auburn was Side show Bob heating up and sinking all those threes the other night. If we disrupt and don?t allow someone to get hot we can win by going down low to Holman and Ado.

Coach34
01-20-2018, 01:38 PM
Meh, rather ado, but when ado out, sure

Holman is twice the post player Ado is on the offensive end. We are the best we can be with Holman at the 5. Play Ado there for 20 mins and Holman there for 20 mins

msstate7
01-20-2018, 01:48 PM
Holman is twice the post player Ado is on the offensive end. We are the best we can be with Holman at the 5. Play Ado there for 20 mins and Holman there for 20 mins

I like having both of them on the court. No way I want either/or

MCsMGs
01-20-2018, 01:54 PM
On my way to Tuscaloosa...someone start a game thread later. I hope whatever Bama fans that will be sitting around me have a sense of humor!

Coach34
01-20-2018, 02:10 PM
I like having both of them on the court. No way I want either/or

we simply get better play that way. Also helps having X-Man at the 4- even Q for a few mins depending on how Datcher is
how Datcher is playing. We are wasting Holman out there as he just stands around at the 4

RougeDawg
01-20-2018, 02:14 PM
Who remembers the miracle comeback in Coleman when Timmy Bowers put the team on his back and willed us to a W. Want to say we were down 15-20 points with just 2-3 minutes left. Damn that game was special and one MSU game I?ll bever ever forget.

cheewgumm
01-20-2018, 02:32 PM
Need more Holman at the 5 today if we want to win.


Do you not like them playing together?

I like having Them play together. Seems like a competitive advantage have 2 big athletic big men. Especially when we aren?t shooting well anyway.

Who would you play at the 4?

cheewgumm
01-20-2018, 02:37 PM
Nvm, I see your reasoning. Didn?t read it all before.

RougeDawg
01-20-2018, 02:38 PM
Do you not like them playing together?

I like having Them play together. Seems like a competitive advantage have 2 big athletic big men. Especially when we aren?t shooting well anyway.

Who would you play at the 4?

When they both play together the other teams struggle to score. We should always have at least one of them on the court at all times.

cheewgumm
01-20-2018, 02:41 PM
When they both play together the other teams struggle to score. We should always have at least one of them on the court at all times.

I agree. I?d play them together but I?d run EVERYTHING offensively through Holman. He is good offensively he passes well, he?s our best player.

I?d also run( push the pace) at all costs.

msstate7
01-20-2018, 02:54 PM
Vandy close to beating LSU.

Quaoarsking
01-20-2018, 03:09 PM
If, big IF, we beat bama, all the downers here will be changing their tunes.

No, if we beat Alabama, the usual suspects will recast Alabama as a bad team. See Arkansas.

biggun
01-20-2018, 03:11 PM
Below average on ball defense hasn?t described us at all this year. It?s almost like you have combined our defense from last year and combined our offensive struggles from the second half of games this year into this imaginary team you want to bitch about. Bama is 12-6 and possibly will be missing their best player with one of their other better post players being limited. Alabama may win the game but it won?t be ?by a bunch? as you say.


We are 0-3 on the road this year, average defeat right at 13 points.
2 of the 3 were over at the half.
Yep, We got Bama right where we want them.

Coach34
01-20-2018, 04:25 PM
When they both play together the other teams struggle to score. We should always have at least one of them on the court at all times.

We play them together- and then when they get in foul trouble or need to rest- we have Datcher and the X-Man at the 4 and 5. We become really shitty when that happens,

Start them together for the 1st 4 mins- then at the 16:00 time-out start rotating them at the 5. It's whats best for this team.

klong-dog
01-20-2018, 06:56 PM
I can't believe we're only a 5.5 pt dog. Bama has manhandled us for the last 5 years. Bama 68-46.