Bounce back game thread Vandy edition!

[preachermatt83]

I'm expecting a double digit win tonight. Any win in conference is big and no team can be taken lightly. Vandy is very scrappy but I think we win

[msstate7]

Vandy scares me a little bc I know lachance and fisher-Davis could go off from 3

[BayouDawg]

We need this one in a bad way. Things could get ugly (or uglier I guess) if we don?t get it done tonight.

[msstate7]

We cannot shoot

[msstate7]

Not a fan of nick shooting from the perimeter. Drive, nick

[Leeshouldveflanked]

I could go pick up 5 Church league ballers that would beat this bunch...all 5 Church Ballers packed into the lane playing a 2-3 zone... MSU wouldn't score 40 pts.

[preachermatt83]

Howland should make it a rule that no one can shoot a 3 with any more than 10 secs remaining on shot clock.

[RocketDawg]

8 total points scored in 5 game minutes. Pretty poor shooting on both team's parts.

[msstate7]

Thank you, peters. Take the ball to the basket

[msstate7]

That is your game, nick. Stop settling for 3s

[RocketDawg]

Did they give away shirts with a giant MSU on the front? Everybody's got one, even the empty seats. Makes it hard to guess what the attendance is.

[msstate7]

Did they give away shirts with a giant MSU on the front? Everybody's got one, even the empty seats.

Yep

[Coach34]

4 points in 4 1/2 mins with Carter in the game

6 points in 1 1/2 mins with Peters in the game

[Commercecomet24]

We just can?t shoot. Dang.

[HoopsDawg]

This announcer is on the money. We play too slow at times. Got to get out and run.

[MCsMGs]

I think we need Lamar back in the starting line up and let Tyson come off the bench. We are a different (better) team with Lamar on the floor than Tyson.

[Commercecomet24]

This announcer is on the money. We play too slow at times. Got to get out and run.

That?s our best bet on offense. Our half court sets aren?t good and we jack up to many quick 3?s

[HoopsDawg]

Poor job by Carter on that rebound. That's a prime example of he should have pushed the ball.

[Commercecomet24]

I think we need Lamar back in the starting line up and let Tyson come off the bench. We are a different (better) team with Lamar on the floor than Tyson.

Lamar and nick need to be on the court together.

[HoopsDawg]

Why is Eli in damn it.

[starkvegasdawg]

This game brought to you by Boral Brick Company.

[RocketDawg]

We seem to be getting worse as the season goes on.

[Commercecomet24]

This game brought to you by Boral Brick Company.

Nice!

[msstate7]

That is why you cannot leave peters out there. Total shit show at times

[RocketDawg]

This game brought to you by Boral Brick Company.

They're certainly getting a lot of free advertising. We've bricked every 3 thrown up so far.

[mparkerfd20]

Bounce back? Yeah the ball sure is bouncing back off the rim on every miss of ours.

[HoopsDawg]

We seem to be getting worse as the season goes on.

We've played 10 different combos in 10 minutes. You can't do that shit.

[MaroonFlounder]

This could be a 42-40 game. Crxxm would be proud.

[Irondawg]

We are just impossible to enjoy watching. We play so apathetic on offense

[Commercecomet24]

We've played 10 different combos in 10 minutes. You can't do that shit.

I don?t understand why we keep doing this wholesale sub crap. It?s not hockey.

[preachermatt83]

This team sucks

[Goldendawg]

I still we sub too quickly, too much, and have too many players in the rotation.

[Irondawg]

So they show the replay where X got the dunk off a Holman double team. They praise Holman but never get on Carter for not cutting to the basket. He does and he?s got an easy dunk

[ATTILLA THE DOG]

We just flatout can't shoot,i think its mental at this point.

[Dawg61]

I don't understand why Stapleton doesn't try to dunk every time he touches the ball. If I had those hops that's all I'd try to do. Dude could find a roster spot in the NBA off his dunking ability alone. He has an elite NBA skill.

[Cowboydawg]

Is it too much to ask Peters to at least follow his shot when he shoots a 3? Most of the time it comes right back to where he shot it because he shoots it so hard but he's already on the other end of the court.

[preachermatt83]

Why is Eli in damn it.

He's absolutely useless

[Goldendawg]

I don?t understand why we keep doing this wholesale sub crap. It?s not hockey.

Got to get everyone a participation trophy. Someone might pout or threaten to quit (ala Wright) last year,

[Coach34]

Holman finally getting his ass in the paint more

[msstate7]

Carter = 6 pts 2 reb 2 assists

Still bashing my boy?

[Commercecomet24]

Got to get everyone a participation trophy. Someone might pout or threaten to quit (ala Wright) last year,

It?s just so hard to watch. It robs us of any kind of rhythm or consistency

[Dawg61]

Carter = 6 pts 2 reb 2 assists

Still bashing my boy?

Carter has the highest upside on the team imo. He reminds me of Ray Allen a little.

[msstate7]

Carter has the highest upside on the team imo. He reminds me of Ray Allen a little.

And then he takes that awful shot.

[Goldendawg]

It?s just so hard to watch. It robs us of any kind of rhythm or consistency

He must think we have about 10 players of about equal ability, thus the 10 man, 1A,1B, 1C, "rotation"!

[MaroonFlounder]

How many times they gonna let that guy drive uncontested to the basket?

[HoopsDawg]

I'd rather have Holman at the 5 over Datcher.

[Commercecomet24]

He must think we have about 10 players of about equal ability, thus the 10 man, 1A,1B, 1C, "rotation"!

Maybe danny boy rubbed off on Ben before he left.

[Dawgology]

Silver lining...at least we won’t have to blow a big lead in the second half!

[Goldendawg]

I do not understand Holman only getting 21.7 minutes per game.

[msstate7]

Nick is struggling the last 4 games now

[HoopsDawg]

Nick has an ugly stroke. I noticed it in HS.

[RocketDawg]

We are just impossible to enjoy watching. We play so apathetic on offense

Nothing like watching the girls, is it? And I'm serious.

[Commercecomet24]

Nothing like watching the girls, is it? And I'm serious.

Not even close.

[HoopsDawg]

I do not understand Holman only getting 21.7 minutes per game.

It's bc of X at the 4. All of this could be solved if we took Eli out of the rotation.

[Cowboydawg]

Refs are letting them play. That will change in the second half.

[Liverpooldawg]

This is one of the worst offensive teams I have ever seen. I saw Mackie White play by the way,

[Dawg61]

Bruh change your offense till you recruit dudes that can shoot. We can not shoot. Period.

[msstate7]

I would like to see peters, Q, X, Holman, and ado on the court together more.

[Goldendawg]

It's bc of X at the 4. All of this could be solved if we took Eli out of the rotation.

Didn't Wright threaten to transfer last year and we talked him out of it?

[Cowboydawg]

I do not understand Holman only getting 21.7 minutes per game.

Holeman should be getting at least 30 minutes a game and the offense needs to run through him.

[msstate7]

Holeman should be getting at least 30 minutes a game and the offense needs to run through him.

Holman takes himself out a lot with fouls

[Coach34]

Carter = 6 pts 2 reb 2 assists

Still bashing my boy?

yes- would you like me to post his SEC stats?

[msstate7]

yes- would you like me to post his SEC stats?

Post peters while your at it

[Coach34]

Carter is helped greatly vs a zone. It's vs M2M he cant get open looks

[MagicDawg]

Somebody wake up Howland and tell him it's almost halftime.

[msstate7]

Wright with assist and layup in back-to-back possessions

[MaroonFlounder]

3 straight possessions...looked great

[msstate7]

Wright with assist and layup in back-to-back possessions

And assist next possession

[RocketDawg]

Not sure what's happening, but they look a lot more coordinated right now.

[Commercecomet24]

Holman has got to play more.

[Liverpooldawg]

Three straight great offensive possessions. Wow!

[Commercecomet24]

We look good in spurts in then all of a sudden it disappears for 5 to 10 minutes.

[RocketDawg]

Silver lining...at least we won’t have to blow a big lead in the second half!

You may have spoken too soon ....

[msstate7]

Great finish to the half. We have nice pieces if they can just put it together. I still think we make a run at the nit/bubble

[MaroonFlounder]

We must be setting up a lead to make that 2nd half collapse even more impressive

[Commercecomet24]

Alright let?s see if we can play 2 halves.

[cheewgumm]

Peteres and Carter have their place.

Peters is too good to sit the bench. Carter has to shoot good, which has been hit or miss.

[mparkerfd20]

Strong finish to end the half

[HoopsDawg]

Eli gave us some good minutes at the end there. We made our run with Nick on the bench.

[Goldendawg]

Not sure what's happening, but they look a lot more coordinated right now.

Good things happen when you make an extra pass (or pass period) to the open man.

[Dawg61]

We are a totally different team when we don't settle for 3's.

[MagicDawg]

I'm pleasantly surprised at the last 2 minutes.

[HoopsDawg]

Eli gave us some good minutes at the end there. We made our run with Nick on the bench.

Should have said nick And X.

[Coach34]

Post peters while your at it

SEC stats:

Carter- 8/26 30.8%...2/15 from 3...5.3 points...2 Rebs...3/5 off the line...2 turnovers...no steals...3 total assists in 4 games

Peters- 12/32...37.5%..3/12 from 3...7.3 PPG...2.3 rebs...2/5 off the line...11 turnovers..2 steals...8 assists...2 blocks

[Goldendawg]

We are a totally different team when we don't settle for 3's.

Agree 100%. Play team ball, make extra passes to the open man for 2pts at a time instead of taking an NBA 3 early in the clock.

[msstate7]

SEC stats:

Carter- 8/26 30.8%...2/15 from 3...5.3 points...2 Rebs...3/5 off the line...2 turnovers...no steals...3 total assists in 4 games

Peters- 12/32...37.5%..3/12 from 3...7.3 PPG...2.3 rebs...2/5 off the line...11 turnovers..2 steals...8 assists...2 blocks

Carter hit 2 3s in the first half, so that has changed some. What stands out to me is assist to TO ratio since both are guards:

Carter 3:2
Peters 8:11

A pg with a negative assist to TO ratio is horrible.

[preachermatt83]

I do not understand Holman only getting 21.7 minutes per game.

Amen!

[msstate7]

Should have said nick And X.

X only took 1 3, and it was not a bad shot despite missing it. When he does not shoot 3s like an idiot, he helps us

[preachermatt83]

Post peters while your at it

Mic drop

[MarketingBully]

Yep, Peters should live at the free throw line from driving to the basket. That drive by Carter pass to Wright then his pass to Carter after Carter moved into shooting position without the ball for a wide open three was a thing of beauty. If we took more threes like that, I guarantee you we would be shooting more into the upper thirties as a team instead of upper twenties.

[Turfdawg67]

We are a totally different team when we don't settle for 3's.

Holy cow!! No sh*t, we look so good when set an O or drive to the basket!

[preachermatt83]

Carter hit 2 3s in the first half, so that has changed some. What stands out to me is assist to TO ratio since both are guards:

Carter 3:2
Peters 8:11

A pg with a negative assist to TO ratio is horrible.
Yup

[msstate7]

Come on dawgs, get a win

[msstate7]

5-0 run. Might wanna take a TO early

[Coach34]

Carter hit 2 3s in the first half, so that has changed some. What stands out to me is assist to TO ratio since both are guards:

Carter 3:2
Peters 8:11

A pg with a negative assist to TO ratio is horrible.

Peters had 2 assists and 2 steals in the 1st half - so his numbers changed also

[msstate7]

Wow.

[msstate7]

Peters had 2 assists and 2 steals in the 1st half - so his numbers changed also

Besides one bad 3 from peters, he looked good in the 1st half. Carter also took a terrible 3

[Dawg61]

And the collapse is on

[Goldendawg]

Quick, get Holman out b4 he exceeds his 21.7 minutes per game.

[msstate7]

Sit nick a few

[msstate7]

Our offense looks horrible with nick at pg

[msstate7]

And nick avenges himself. Nice pass

[Coach34]

We are the best we can be when Peters and Nick are at Guard

[msstate7]

Why are we not paying attention to their best player?

[civildawg]

Freaking Stapleton taking a terrible shot that leads to a vandy 3

[mparkerfd20]

Here's where Vandy makes a run and we go 7 minutes without scoring I feel like

[Bdawg]

Peters got to make that little floater 85% of the time and he air balls it. Dang

[HoopsDawg]

Just a really bad shot by X that leads to a 3 on the other end.

[Commercecomet24]

Dang how many layups and dunks we gonna let vandy have this half.

[preachermatt83]

Datcher is strait up laughable right now.

[starkvegasdawg]

Vandy running the same play and we can?t stop it.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Holman didn't even touch that guy.

[Bdawg]

Jesus we can’t get back and guard the roll tonight. Slow getting back and giving away freaking dunks.

[civildawg]

These refs have called two phantom fouls I?ve seen where our player hasn?t touched them yet they call a foul anyway

[msstate7]

Wright has been good tonight

[Bdawg]

These refs have called two phantom fouls I?ve seen where our player hasn?t touched them yet they call a foul anyway

They love anticipating a foul and giving it when it’s not there

[Dawg61]

Huge basket by Wright

[civildawg]

Peters is just out of control. No pun intended

[msstate7]

Datcher or Feazell have to develop bc we are really bad without ado in the game

[civildawg]

Ado seriously needs to shoot free throws under handed. It can?t get any worse

[Dawg61]

Datcher or Feazell have to develop bc we are really bad without ado in the game

Looks like we all underestimated the loss of Herard. I want him back.

[MaroonFlounder]

If Holman could do this against good teams....

[msstate7]

Holman is getting better and better. Him and perry will give us great play at the 4

[HoopsDawg]

New combo on floor making a run. No peters or nick.

[Dawg61]

Holman WOW!!

[MaroonFlounder]

Holman is getting better and better. Him and perry will give us great play at the 4

He disappears against good teams

[HailState39110]

Holman easily has the most NBA upside on the team with his size and ability to shoot from the outside

[msstate7]

He disappears against good teams

11 pts. 6 reb vs auburn. I will take that from our 4

ETA... vs Cincinnati. 18 pts 10 reb

[RocketDawg]

Good heavens, we made a 3!

[Dawg61]

Holman gonna be in the running for POW with this performance.

[HoopsDawg]

11 pts. 6 reb vs auburn. I will take that from our 4

ETA... vs Cincinnati. 18 pts 10 reb

We finally played him at the 5 and went on a 13-0 run. His 20 mpg is on Howland.

[Maroonthirteen]

Holman easily has the most NBA upside on the team with his size and ability to shoot from the outside

No question. He should play 38 minutes per game. If not for foul trouble every now and then, he probably would average that many minutes.

[MaroonFlounder]

11 pts. 6 reb vs auburn. I will take that from our 4

ETA... vs Cincinnati. 18 pts 10 reb

So it’s a consistency issue. What’s his numbers vs OM and UF?

[Dawg61]

Haha we started a fastbreak and everyone forgot to grab the ball first.

[msstate7]

X missed that, but I liked it. He normally stands at the 3-point line there and shoots

[MaroonFlounder]

Lamar Peters needed this confidence boost

[Commercecomet24]

Looks like we may finish this one. Maybe we can get straightened out.

[mparkerfd20]

Good game

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

So it’s a consistency issue. What’s his numbers vs OM and UF?

9 points and 5 rebounds in 22 minutes against OM, sadly our leading scorer.

7 points and 4 rebounds in 16 minutes against UF

[msstate7]

So it’s a consistency issue. What’s his numbers vs OM and UF?

OM... 9 pts. 5 reb 3 assists
Florida... 7 pts 4 reb

[Commercecomet24]

We needed that.

[MarketingBully]

Florida he fouled out in 16 minutes so I wouldn’t count that game. He got called for two bogus moving screens.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Im gonna get shit on for this but........

Vandy is 6-12

[HoopsDawg]

Im gonna get shit on for this but........

Vandy is 6-12

No your not. It's the truth. They are the worst team in the SEC and they were playing without one of their best players.

[BayouDawg]

We needed that. We still look inept at times and our defensive intensity was very bad at times tonight. Hopefully we can build on this.

[bluelightstar]

Im gonna get shit on for this but........

Vandy is 6-12

Vandy's not good, but this is their biggest SEC loss. I know they were missing their best player.

[msstate7]

Im gonna get shit on for this but........

Vandy is 6-12

We took care of business like a good team should. I still think we are a good team... in the making.

[MarketingBully]

Vandy's not good, but this is their biggest SEC loss. I know they were missing their best player.

Davis is one of their three best players but their best player is by far Roberson.

[tcdog70]

Don't act like it was a fluke. We out played Auburn and the dogassed Rebs for a half. So we have proved we can play. Tonight we played both halves I think we have defense figured out. And we will continue to improve on offense. We coming--have some faith.

[BayouDawg]

I think teams are gonna see this film and run nothing but slip screens all game. We couldn?t figure that out all game.

[Dawg61]

We won tonight because we spent most the 2nd half getting the ball down low or driving it down low. When we don't settle for 3's we are a good team.

[Commercecomet24]

We won tonight because we spent most the 2nd half getting the ball down low or driving it down low. When we don't settle for 3's we are a good team.

100% absolutely right!

[MarketingBully]

We won tonight because we spent most the 2nd half getting the ball down low or driving it down low. When we don't settle for 3's we are a good team.

We also shot most of our threes from penetration kickouts to wide open squared up ready to shoot shooters. We were probably 7-15 in those shots and 1-5 in our normal jack up type shots. Howland also talked to Jaime Dixon this weekend after the Auburn loss and they are running a shooting drill Dixon runs at TCU. Glad those two talk and are great friends.

[MarketingBully]

I think teams are gonna see this film and run nothing but slip screens all game. We couldn?t figure that out all game.

I doubt it. You guys are silly. You don’t just run shit unless it’s a base off of your offensive set. Vandy runs slip screens and is a master at them. That’s part of Drew’s offense with Roberson.

[BayouDawg]

I doubt it. You guys are silly. You don’t just run shit unless it’s a base off of your offensive set. Vandy runs slip screens and is a master at them. That’s part of Drew’s offense with Roberson.

It was a joke man

[basedog]

Who cares Vandy is shitty! Like Bobby Knight use to say about coaching, find a way to win is the only thing that matters!

Msu is a young team who hasn't had much success over the last several years, hopefully last night is a start but we need to win on the road.

[louisvilledawg]

Damn it's hilarious revisiting this page the day after.