Shooting at Starkville Walmart

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Anyone have any details..all I heard was it was the eye doctors husband. He came in and shot her 5 times and she is in critical condition. I haven?t heard if they caught him yet though...

[Leeshouldveflanked]

I figured it was too cold for the local thugs and gang bangers to be out....

[drummerdawg]

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1882158002097488&id=100009099193006

[gravedigger]

Anyone have any details..all I heard was it was the eye doctors husband. He came in and shot her 5 times and she is in critical condition. I haven?t heard if they caught him yet though...

Same I heard

[starkvegasdawg]

They arrested his ass in the parking lot. He was begging the cops to shoot him as they were cuffing him. They probably should have taken him up on his offer. There?s a video of the arrest on FB and twitter.

[Buddy]

She has died according to Commercial Dispatch.

http://www.cdispatch.com/news/article.asp?aid=63189

[Bully13]

They arrested his ass in the parking lot. He was begging the cops to shoot him as they were cuffing him. They probably should have taken him up on his offer. There?s a video of the arrest on FB and twitter.

Most times I prefer the perp to survive the ordeal. he now has to live with it. everyday. forever.

[starkvegasdawg]

Most times I prefer the perp to survive the ordeal. he now has to live with it. everyday. forever.

But he gets to live... with me paying for it. Although there will be some comfort in that once he?s in Parchman he?s going to realize all those stereotypes about prison life are true. They're damn true.

[Bully13]

But he gets to live... with me paying for it. Although there will be some comfort in that once he?s in Parchman he?s going to realize all those stereotypes about prison life are true. They're damn true.

yep. prisons need to be self sufficient. grow your own damned food or starve. and the surplus should go to relieve the snap program.

[GreenheadDawg]

yep. prisons need to be self sufficient. grow your own damned food or starve. and the surplus should go to relieve the snap program.

I agree with this. Instead of sitting inside watching tv and playing dominoes they need to be in the fields working their ass off so they can eat.

[ababyatemydingo]

Parchman used to be a prison farm.

[Bothrops]

I agree with this. Instead of sitting inside watching tv and playing dominoes they need to be in the fields working their ass off so they can eat.

This would be the best crime deterrent.

[Coach007]

Yeah... 75K per year to house this POS....

[starkvegasdawg]

I agree with this. Instead of sitting inside watching tv and playing dominoes they need to be in the fields working their ass off so they can eat.

100% agree. Either in fields providing for yourself or in a classroom bettering yourself.

[Goldendawg]

When I was in middle school in the late '60's we were taken on a class trip to see life at Parchment, toured the farms, housing, saw gas chamber and electric chair. Trustees were still being used and inmates worked in the fields. Strange, but I bought a homemade knife from a trustee as they were allowed to make and sell to visitors. Trip made a real lasting impact on the class. Sure today the courts have or would make working in the fields cruel and unusual punishment.

[RougeDawg]

More states need to follow Kentucky?s lead on government programs. If you receive them and are of able body, you must work part time to continue receiving said benefits. Kentucky just passed a bill like this for Medicaid. It?s a damn good start.

[msstate7]

Yeah... 75K per year to house this POS....
Sounds high

[dawg1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_State_Penitentiary

Been here before. I believe they are mostly self sastained.

[TUSK]

Part of this thread reminds me of a TV news interview I saw a few years back after Alabama brought back "chain gangs"... The reporter was from somewhere "more enlightened" and "progressive" and the expose' was to show how archaic the South and this practice was...

And when I say "chain gang", I mean that LITERALLY... a group of inmates were linked together with restraints and were picking up trash on the side of an AL HWY...

The reporter was allowed to interview one of the inmates (he was ~18-19) and it went kinda like this (paraphrasing and truncating):

Enlightened TV Chick: Sir, can you tell me about being on a chain gang?
Oppressed Inmate: I ought not be on no chain, yo... I ain't no dawg...

Enlightened TV Chick: So, what do you think about this practice and the penal system in Alabama?
Oppressed Inmate: It makes me know I don't wanna come back here...


#putthepenalbackinpenitentiary

[starkvegasdawg]

Part of this thread reminds me of a TV news interview I saw a few years back after Alabama brought back "chain gangs"... The reporter was from somewhere "more enlightened" and "progressive" and the expose' was to show how archaic the South and this practice was...

And when I say "chain gang", I mean that LITERALLY... a group of inmates were linked together with restraints and were picking up trash on the side of an AL HWY...

The reporter was allowed to interview one of the inmates (he was ~18-19) and it went kinda like this (paraphrasing and truncating):

Enlightened TV Chick: Sir, can you tell me about being on a chain gang?
Oppressed Inmate: I ought not be on no chain, yo... I ain't no dawg...

Enlightened TV Chick: So, what do you think about this practice and the penal system in Alabama?
Oppressed Inmate: It makes me know I don't wanna come back here...


#putthepenalbackinpenitentiary

Oh the horror. Prison used as a deterrent rather than slightly less comfortable living conditions.

[BoomBoom]

Oh the horror. Prison used as a deterrent rather than slightly less comfortable living conditions.

the best deterrent is would-be criminals thinking they'll probably get caught.

[TUSK]

the best deterrent is would-be criminals thinking they'll probably get shot.

FIFY

[Leroy Jenkins]

Man, looking at the title, I thought this was a BBall thread. Dang.

[Todd4State]

When I was in middle school in the late '60's we were taken on a class trip to see life at Parchment, toured the farms, housing, saw gas chamber and electric chair. Trustees were still being used and inmates worked in the fields. Strange, but I bought a homemade knife from a trustee as they were allowed to make and sell to visitors. Trip made a real lasting impact on the class. Sure today the courts have or would make working in the fields cruel and unusual punishment.

I did the fieldtrip thing to Parchman in the 1990's. It was a lot more like Scared Straight. They had about 4-5 prisoners talking to us about everything that goes on in there- how they kill each other and rape each other and all of that and they showed us some shanks. Basically told us that if we ever came to prison that they would rape us. I wanted to ask the prison guard where the hell they were when all of that was going on? Of course I now understand that a lot of the guards are in on it as much as anything. Sort of like football officials at an Alabama football game.

[Todd4State]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_State_Penitentiary

Been here before. I believe they are mostly self sastained.

They're probably almost self sustained from pulling over MSU fans for speeding during football season.

[Turfdawg67]

I figured it was too cold for the local thugs and gang bangers to be out....

Ahhh... First impressions. Nope just an angry middle-aged white dude from out of town.

[Todd4State]

Ahhh... First impressions. Nope just an angry middle-aged white dude from out of town.

He had legit psychiatric issues. Oddly enough I used to work with him at the same hospital in Jackson and he had an issue where he had a mental breakdown and had a standoff with the police at his home in Madison. He had a stockpile of weapons at his house at that time. It was over his significant other (girlfriend, fiancee', can't remember what the exact relationship was). When that happened I figured that would be the last I saw of him. Nope. He was back at work about two weeks later.

I was surprised that there wasn't any apparent legal action- I figured there would be since he threatened to shoot a Madison County deputy and a SWAT team member- even though he was found to be mentally ill. And maybe there was legal action and I just wasn't privy to it- I didn't ask him about it.

Anyway- it's not the first time he has had something similar to this happen. The sad thing is based on his history it seems like this somehow could have been avoided. I'm sure he will either end up in Parchman (likely) or maybe if he is lucky Whitfield since he does have a psychiatric history. I'll be interested to find out- preliminary hearing is tomorrow at 3 PM in Starkville I believe.

As a co-worker he didn't seem like a "bad" guy at all- but he's also apparently someone that can't manage his life and he doesn't need to be out in public anymore.

[TimberBeast]

Ahhh... First impressions. Nope just an angry middle-aged white dude from out of town.

Meaning?

[gravedigger]

Meaning?

You need it explained?

[Turfdawg67]

He had legit psychiatric issues. Oddly enough I used to work with him at the same hospital in Jackson and he had an issue where he had a mental breakdown and had a standoff with the police at his home in Madison. He had a stockpile of weapons at his house at that time. It was over his significant other (girlfriend, fiancee', can't remember what the exact relationship was). When that happened I figured that would be the last I saw of him. Nope. He was back at work about two weeks later.

I was surprised that there wasn't any apparent legal action- I figured there would be since he threatened to shoot a Madison County deputy and a SWAT team member- even though he was found to be mentally ill. And maybe there was legal action and I just wasn't privy to it- I didn't ask him about it.

Anyway- it's not the first time he has had something similar to this happen. The sad thing is based on his history it seems like this somehow could have been avoided. I'm sure he will either end up in Parchman (likely) or maybe if he is lucky Whitfield since he does have a psychiatric history. I'll be interested to find out- preliminary hearing is tomorrow at 3 PM in Starkville I believe.

As a co-worker he didn't seem like a "bad" guy at all- but he's also apparently someone that can't manage his life and he doesn't need to be out in public anymore.

Wow! Utterly speechless... thanks for sharing.

[RocketDawg]

He had legit psychiatric issues. Oddly enough I used to work with him at the same hospital in Jackson and he had an issue where he had a mental breakdown and had a standoff with the police at his home in Madison. He had a stockpile of weapons at his house at that time. It was over his significant other (girlfriend, fiancee', can't remember what the exact relationship was). When that happened I figured that would be the last I saw of him. Nope. He was back at work about two weeks later.

I was surprised that there wasn't any apparent legal action- I figured there would be since he threatened to shoot a Madison County deputy and a SWAT team member- even though he was found to be mentally ill. And maybe there was legal action and I just wasn't privy to it- I didn't ask him about it.

Anyway- it's not the first time he has had something similar to this happen. The sad thing is based on his history it seems like this somehow could have been avoided. I'm sure he will either end up in Parchman (likely) or maybe if he is lucky Whitfield since he does have a psychiatric history. I'll be interested to find out- preliminary hearing is tomorrow at 3 PM in Starkville I believe.

As a co-worker he didn't seem like a "bad" guy at all- but he's also apparently someone that can't manage his life and he doesn't need to be out in public anymore.

Sounds like a guy who could easily have gone on a major shooting and killing spree. Good thing he'll be in custody the rest of his life, for his sake as well as others'.

[PMDawg]

I figured it was too cold for the local thugs and gang bangers to be out....

Racist much?

[Todd4State]

Sounds like a guy who could easily have gone on a major shooting and killing spree. Good thing he'll be in custody the rest of his life, for his sake as well as others'.

Absolutely agree. And who's to say that it wouldn't have happened at a hospital I was working at.

[Mimi's Babies]

Parchman used to be a prison farm.

Tom Cook was over the prison and the inmates raised everything they ate. They grew so much they sold to the locals. The prison at that time was self supporting.
Children were taken to the prison during the Spring. The field trip stopped due to children getting up set seeing their parent behind bars.

[Mimi's Babies]

When I was in middle school in the late '60's we were taken on a class trip to see life at Parchment, toured the farms, housing, saw gas chamber and electric chair. Trustees were still being used and inmates worked in the fields. Strange, but I bought a homemade knife from a trustee as they were allowed to make and sell to visitors. Trip made a real lasting impact on the class. Sure today the courts have or would make working in the fields cruel and unusual punishment.

This was stopped in the late 1990's.

[Mimi's Babies]

Absolutely agree. And who's to say that it wouldn't have happened at a hospital I was working at.

It's reported that this guy was out on a felon against this woman.

[starkvegasdawg]

It's reported that this guy was out on a felon against this woman.

He was definitely 17ed up in the head.

[RocketDawg]

Absolutely agree. And who's to say that it wouldn't have happened at a hospital I was working at.

Yeah, and that's scary. What did this guy do at the hospitals? Was he a professional?

[TUSK]

Racist much?

Which part was most racist, in your opinion?

[RocketDawg]

Which part was most racist, in your opinion?

Yeah, I don't recall Lee mentioning race in his post. He merely said "local thugs and gangbangers", which could be anybody. Now, to assume otherwise might be racist ....

[Todd4State]

It's reported that this guy was out on a felon against this woman.

I saw that. Not sure what that was about.

[TUSK]

Yeah, I don't recall Lee mentioning race in his post. He merely said "local thugs and gangbangers", which could be anybody. Now, to assume otherwise might be racist ....

Dude, I honestly don't know... Today's definition isn't the same as Trotsky's...

[Todd4State]

Yeah, and that's scary. What did this guy do at the hospitals? Was he a professional?

Yes. He was a case manager where we both worked at.

[RocketDawg]

Yes. He was a case manager where we both worked at.

I'm sorry he killed his wife, but it could have been much, much worse. Sounds like he was a powder keg just waiting on the right spark.

[West Tn Dawg]

Racist much?

Idiot much?
We know who the racist is!

[Todd4State]

I'm sorry he killed his wife, but it could have been much, much worse. Sounds like he was a powder keg just waiting on the right spark.

Well, both incidents it was over a woman. Not sure if it was the same one or not. Unfortunately he was a powder keg and the spark happened. Fortunately the explosion only killed one person- if you could even call that fortunate.

[TimberBeast]

You need it explained?

Yes I do, what was the meaning?

[Turfdawg67]

Yes I do, what was the meaning?

Okay...

Gang bangers? Negative, angry middle aged man.
Local Thugs? Negative, he was from Kosciusko.
Jump to conclusion/assumption... wrong.

Clear enough? Are you still upset we won the Gator Bowl when you were so sure we were going to lose?

[TimberBeast]

Okay...

Gang bangers? Negative, angry middle aged man.
Local Thugs? Negative, he was from Kosciusko.
Jump to conclusion/assumption... wrong.

Clear enough? Are you still upset we won the Gator Bowl when you were so sure we were going to lose?

This was your post: “Ahhh... First impressions. Nope just an angry middle-aged white dude from out of town.”

[Turfdawg67]

I figured it was too cold for the local thugs and gang bangers to be out....


This was your post: “Ahhh... First impressions. Nope just an angry middle-aged white dude from out of town.”

Yes, I was responding to this from Lee which was completely wrong. It wasn't gang bangers or local thugs...

[Mimi's Babies]

He was definitely 17ed up in the head.

I attempted to locate those documents to see what the charges were exactly in Attala County court documents are not on line.

[Mutt the Hoople]

I did the fieldtrip thing to Parchman in the 1990's. It was a lot more like Scared Straight. They had about 4-5 prisoners talking to us about everything that goes on in there- how they kill each other and rape each other and all of that and they showed us some shanks. Basically told us that if we ever came to prison that they would rape us. I wanted to ask the prison guard where the hell they were when all of that was going on? Of course I now understand that a lot of the guards are in on it as much as anything. Sort of like football officials at an Alabama football game.

I've had friends and relatives in prison. They told me the only difference between the guards and the cons is that the guards get to go home at the end of their shift.

[louisvilledawg]

Yes, I was responding to this from Lee which was completely wrong. It wasn't gang bangers or local thugs...

What is your definition of thug, friend?

[Westdawg]

I have known Tommy (the guy who killed Dr. Witt) since I was in high school. I wasn?t close friends with him, and he was a few years older than me. But we have several mutual close friends and knew each other as acquaintances more or less.
Yes, he had a severe mental episode back in 2012 in Madison county over his fianc?/or something leaving him. He barricaded himself in the House and SWAT had to remove him. He was never charged, but had to go through some psych Evals and other treatment. He , surprisingly, didn?t lose his license, or it may have been temporarily suspended while he got treatment. But he has worked in nursing pretty much since that all happened. He also had a couple side gigs - DJ and some kind of other odd job. He did become somewhat of an oddball after all that happened, though.
He was back in church and always sharing videos of song specials and other things from church services on FB. He had also gotten back into getting his body healthy the past couple years - always sharing pics of before/after of his body transformation into a healthier person. Everybody was happy for him. He seemed to be doing better. But he never really seemed fully ?back?. Most of us just attributed it to the fact that people change and he had experienced some graphic mental and emotional stuff during all that from 2012.
Just a recently as a couple weeks ago, he had posted something about someone ?special? in his life and how he was in a really great place. He was back working in Kosy, and his kids and family and friends are there. But obviously things weren?t as they appeared on the outside.
The charges from Kosciusko that involved Dr. Witt - from what I have been told by mutual friends this weekend from KO - is that she went to his apartment/home and was trying to get her stuff and some KO d of altercation occurred. Regardless of what ?IT? was, She pressed charges against him and he was arrested for it in the middle of this past week - guessing the day it happened. The only thing that any of us can assume/guess at this time is that he either knew it would end up costing him his job/license or was told by his employer that it was going to, or he just lost it completely over the idea of losing her.......
....and then as a result you have Saturday?s tragic event unfold. I think given his past, more should have been done to make sure he was ?stable? after his arrest, especially being in his hometown. Somebody should have taken steps. Something needed to have been in his record that would have had authorities taken that one extra step to make sure he was alright....
Mental health is not taken very seriously in this country. From our vets to the everyday ?joe?, we kind of just throw them to the side....and then want to talk about how much of a monster they are. True, they may have made some
monster-esque action, and they are fully guilty for those actions/decisions - Tommy made a decision and then murdered her and he should be held fully accountable for what he did - but we also need to take a long hard look at how we are/aren?t helping people.

[Bully13]

thanks for sharing Westdawg. sad story with a sad ending. unfortunately, there's no way for these to be 100% avoidable. people are going to flip who have mental issues. family and friends can definitely help more sometimes when they know something's amiss.

Vet suicides everyday is another sad situation going on these days in our country that needs big time attention.

[Turfdawg67]

What is your definition of thug, friend?

He wasn’t local, buddy. And a thug is associated with a young violent criminal. I wouldn’t consider 42 to be young, pal.

[TUSK]

He wasn’t local, buddy.

Don't you call him "buddy", pal!

[Turfdawg67]

Thanks for sharing Westdawg. Crazy that two people that knew him, fairly well too, post here on EliteDawgs. Truly tragic and thank God if wasn’t worse.

[Westdawg]

Yeah, I was watching the story closely because several friends knew her...and then BAM 💥 there?s Tommy?s mugshot on Starkvill Daily?s FB post ?? I was stunned....my wife, not so much. She said she had always felt he wasn?t stable for a few years now

[Todd4State]

I have known Tommy (the guy who killed Dr. Witt) since I was in high school. I wasn?t close friends with him, and he was a few years older than me. But we have several mutual close friends and knew each other as acquaintances more or less.
Yes, he had a severe mental episode back in 2012 in Madison county over his fianc?/or something leaving him. He barricaded himself in the House and SWAT had to remove him. He was never charged, but had to go through some psych Evals and other treatment. He , surprisingly, didn?t lose his license, or it may have been temporarily suspended while he got treatment. But he has worked in nursing pretty much since that all happened. He also had a couple side gigs - DJ and some kind of other odd job. He did become somewhat of an oddball after all that happened, though.
He was back in church and always sharing videos of song specials and other things from church services on FB. He had also gotten back into getting his body healthy the past couple years - always sharing pics of before/after of his body transformation into a healthier person. Everybody was happy for him. He seemed to be doing better. But he never really seemed fully ?back?. Most of us just attributed it to the fact that people change and he had experienced some graphic mental and emotional stuff during all that from 2012.
Just a recently as a couple weeks ago, he had posted something about someone ?special? in his life and how he was in a really great place. He was back working in Kosy, and his kids and family and friends are there. But obviously things weren?t as they appeared on the outside.
The charges from Kosciusko that involved Dr. Witt - from what I have been told by mutual friends this weekend from KO - is that she went to his apartment/home and was trying to get her stuff and some KO d of altercation occurred. Regardless of what ?IT? was, She pressed charges against him and he was arrested for it in the middle of this past week - guessing the day it happened. The only thing that any of us can assume/guess at this time is that he either knew it would end up costing him his job/license or was told by his employer that it was going to, or he just lost it completely over the idea of losing her.......
....and then as a result you have Saturday?s tragic event unfold. I think given his past, more should have been done to make sure he was ?stable? after his arrest, especially being in his hometown. Somebody should have taken steps. Something needed to have been in his record that would have had authorities taken that one extra step to make sure he was alright....
Mental health is not taken very seriously in this country. From our vets to the everyday ?joe?, we kind of just throw them to the side....and then want to talk about how much of a monster they are. True, they may have made some
monster-esque action, and they are fully guilty for those actions/decisions - Tommy made a decision and then murdered her and he should be held fully accountable for what he did - but we also need to take a long hard look at how we are/aren?t helping people.

I was shocked when I saw him back not long after that incident in 2012. I'm not sure about the nursing license regulations since I'm not a nurse myself. Like I said he was a case manager- a lot of them have nursing degrees- but they mainly expedite discharge for patients. Which is how I worked with him a little bit- because when you are in rehab like myself the case managers always want to know what we recommend so that we can get the ball rolling. Case managers very rarely if ever dispense meds and things like that to patients so I'm not sure if that was a factor in him keeping his license or not at the time.

In my field if I get arrested I have to report it to the state OT board. Then there is a hearing and they decide whether to suspend/revoke/reinstate your license. I think it's kind of honor code in a way though- I'm sure there are a few people that check "no" in the have you ever been arrested before box and just hope the board doesn't find out. More than likely if they had a hearing he probably just presented the psychiatric testing showing that he was unstable and they approved him like you said.

You're spot on about mental health being underserved.

[msubullylady]

Tommy rented property by me in Kosciusko.... he had issues/has issues. Why one of his friends who say now they knew he faced demons didn't reach out, I don't understand AT all. SMH.... prayers for the Witt family & loved ones ~