Well 34.....

[Liverpooldawg]

This should put your arguments about Adu to bed. He is the heart of the team. His foul trouble cost us this one.

[RougeDawg]

Heart of the team? He got pushed around like a little bitch at the end of the game. If he finishes the dunk and holds the next rebound we win the game, period. He did neither and looked weaker than the water boy. No excuse for that.

[Liverpooldawg]

Heart of the team? He got pushed around like a little bitch at the end of the game. If he finishes the dunk and holds the next rebound we win the game, period. He did neither and looked weaker than the water boy. No excuse for that.

Dude, he had 4 fouls. We controlled the game when he was in till he got 4.

[RougeDawg]

Dude, he had 4 fouls. We controlled the game when he was in till he got 4.

Him being weak physically was a 3 point swing and the lead with 90 seconds to play. Inexcusable when we have the workout facilities we have on campus and in the practice facility.

[Maroonthirteen]

Heart and soul? That is the Spoon brothers.

Adu is nothing more than a big body. He is still a work in progress.

[msstate7]

Heart and soul? That is the Spoon brothers.

Adu is nothing more than a big body. He is still a work in progress.

I love the spoons, but they were hot garbage today. Complete garbage

[Maroonthirteen]

Well say what you will about them.... without them... MSU is maybe 8-7 with a 300+ SOS.

[msstate7]

Well say what you will about them.... without them... MSU is maybe 8-7 with a 300+ SOS.

Dang right we are.... we need them to show up every game though, not every other one

[Liverpooldawg]

The game turned when Adu was on the bench. That is FACT.

[Covercorner2]

No. The game turned when they went to a 1-3-1 press and we couldn't make shots and got rattled. It happens on the road.

[RougeDawg]

The game turned when Adu was on the bench. That is FACT.

There is some truth to this. But letting X and crew jack up 13+ threes in the 2nd half was the main reason we lost. If we make a 2 on a third of those possessions we win the game easily.

[PassInterference]

Dude, he had 4 fouls. We controlled the game when he was in till he got 4.

And when he came back in he was soft. He didn?t foul out. Great! What did that buy us?

[Commercecomet24]

No. The game turned when they went to a 1-3-1 press and we couldn't make shots and got rattled. It happens on the road.

This. We don?t handle any type of zone or zone press well.

[Liverpooldawg]

And when he came back in he was soft. He didn?t foul out. Great! What did that buy us?

It was no worse than when he was out. Him being in is essential for this team to win.

[Liverpooldawg]

No. The game turned when they went to a 1-3-1 press and we couldn't make shots and got rattled. It happens on the road.

They went to that when Adu went out.

[RougeDawg]

This. We don?t handle any type of zone or zone press well.

Low team BBall IQ is the only explanation.

[Covercorner2]

Low team BBall IQ is the only explanation.

It happens to good teams on the road. Even experienced ones. We will only get better. Take "Ole Miss" off the jersey and this is a hard fought loss. Everyone needs to relax.

[Commercecomet24]

Low team BBall IQ is the only explanation.

Yeah it?s hard to understand. We should be able to break down these zones with as many guys as we have that can penetrate. It seems like all we do though is pass around the perimeter and jack up 3?s.

[Commercecomet24]

It happens to good teams on the road. Even experienced ones. We will only get better. Take "Ole Miss" off the jersey and this is a hard fought loss. Everyone needs to relax.

I hope you?re right. We have talent just got to put it together.

[BuckyIsAB****]

It happens to good teams on the road. Even experienced ones. We will only get better. Take "Ole Miss" off the jersey and this is a hard fought loss. Everyone needs to relax.

We blew 2 double digit leads to an average at best team. We wont sniff the tourney. Making excuses for shit effort leads to more shit efforts

[Covercorner2]

We blew 2 double digit leads to an average at best team. We wont sniff the tourney. Making excuses for shit effort leads to more shit efforts

It's not an excuse. It's college basketball, especially in this year's SEC.

[coastdoglover]

It's not an excuse. It's college basketball, especially in this year's SEC.

We lost because we had 14 turnovers to their 7. We shot horribly from 3 point range and let the Rebs take it to the hoop late. Too early to panic but we let one get away. And by the way, Jimmy Dykes is a know it all asshole.

[Covercorner2]

We lost because we had 14 turnovers to their 7. We shot horribly from 3 point range and let the Rebs take it to the hoop late. Too early to panic but we let one get away. And by the way, Jimmy Dykes is a know it all asshole.

You know what? That sounds exactly like what happens to teams (even good ones) on the road. And we still almost won. People acting like we didn't compete.

[Coach34]

Adu is weak and not much help offensively. Their half court trap was the difference today- it Adu being a below average college basketball player. Liverpool knows nothing as usual

[99jc]

Adu is weak and not much help offensively. Their half court trap was the difference today- it Adu being a below average college basketball player. Liverpool knows nothing as usual

win or lose....except when I am a dumbass and put a bet down in a state game.

[Goldendawg]

Played long ago in high school, never coached anything. I still don't think we know who our starters are and have too many players in our rotation. Why is Wright suddenly getting so many minutes? Holman is not getting enough shots. The spoons disappeared. Everyone except Datcher and Ado think they are NBA ready and jack up three's anytime, any range, and at any point in the shot clock. Ado needs to get in the weight room asap and also work on hand strength drills with Couch.

[Liverpooldawg]

Adu is weak and not much help offensively. Their half court trap was the difference today- it Adu being a below average college basketball player. Liverpool knows nothing as usual

LOL, it was like turning on and off a light switch, when he was in we rolled, when he wasn't we didn't. The thing you and the rest don't get is that I ain't really arguing about how good Adu is, or isn't. You might be surprised at what I actually think there. It's immaterial though. He is the key player for this team.

[preachermatt83]

It was no worse than when he was out. Him being in is essential for this team to win.

Absolutely correct

[preachermatt83]

Adu is weak and not much help offensively. Their half court trap was the difference today- it Adu being a below average college basketball player. Liverpool knows nothing as usual

We are a much better team with adu in the game. That's a fact.

[Liverpooldawg]

We are a much better team with adu in the game. That's a fact.

Yep, and it's not debatable. I just smile at 34 on this.

[Coach34]

I'm not disputing that. It doesnt mean that Ado is any good.

[Liverpooldawg]

I'm not disputing that. It doesnt mean that Ado is any good.

As I said. He is THE key player for us though. Just like the kid that is transferring was last year. Hopefully Adu does better in that role.

[Coach34]

We are a much better team with adu in the game. That's a fact.

True- but he couldn?t score in a whorehouse with a stack of 100?s

[Dawg61]

I'm not disputing that. It doesnt mean that Ado is any good.

Jesus dude he's a ****ing freshman and he's a very good defensive player. Jarvis Varnado sucked absolute balls as a freshman. Ado is miles ahead of him right now.

[Coach34]

Jarvis Varnado sucked absolute balls as a freshman. Ado is miles ahead of him right now.

Jarvis shot the ball better and turned it over less as a Freshman. Ado is in no way "miles ahead of him". Varnado didnt play as much because we had Rhodes playing ahead of him and Slater balled so hard Stands played him at the 4.

[Dawg61]

Jarvis shot the ball better and turned it over less as a Freshman. Ado is in no way "miles ahead of him". Varnado didnt play as much because we had Rhodes playing ahead of him and Slater balled so hard Stands played him at the 4.

Maybe not shooting % but Ado is a Greek god compared to bean pole Varnado as a freshman. Ado gets in the weight room he is going to finish top 10 C for MSU all-time.

[Political Hack]

He?s the defensive MVP on a defensive team.

[Maroonthirteen]

Holman is not getting enough shots.

You?re exactly right!

Holman is 2nd on the team in PPG and 1st in RPG while averaging 21 minutes a game. He should be getting 35 minutes per game.

[MarketingBully]

I'm not disputing that. It doesnt mean that Ado is any good.

Someone should bookmark this and drag it back out in a couple of years. I think it will be quite funny.

[MarketingBully]

There is some truth to this. But letting X and crew jack up 13+ threes in the 2nd half was the main reason we lost. If we make a 2 on a third of those possessions we win the game easily.

When the game was on the line and it really counted we were 0-4 shooting wide open threes and the players who took them were as follows: Tyson Carter (0-2 wide open looks), Nick Weatherspoon (0-1 shooting same shot he buried against Arkansas), Q (0-1 same shot he buried down the stretch against Arkansas). Ado actually had a key offensive rebound put back that was an offensive rebound from a brick from one of Q?s shots. His put back got it back to 60-58. Down the stretch Q inexplicably threw the ball out of bounds throwing it to Nick which cost us a key possession. We made a stop were down 60-58 and Ado was wide open and Q just throws the ball out of bounds. Q was 0-4 from three and had five costly turnovers. If you want to blame someone, Q is as much or more of a culprit then anyone else.

[the59dawg]

When the game was on the line and it really counted we were 0-4 shooting wide open threes and the players who took them were as follows: Tyson Carter (0-2 wide open looks), Nick Weatherspoon (0-1 shooting same shot he buried against Arkansas), Q (0-1 same shot he buried down the stretch against Arkansas). Ado actually had a key offensive rebound put back that was an offensive rebound from a brick from one of Q?s shots. His put back got it back to 60-58. Down the stretch Q inexplicably threw the ball out of bounds throwing it to Nick which cost us a key possession. We made a stop were down 60-58 and Ado was wide open and Q just throws the ball out of bounds. Q was 0-4 from three and had five costly turnovers. If you want to blame someone, Q is as much or more of a culprit then anyone else.

And Peters lost the ball 5 times trying to dribble/drive the lane. He may have made 1 FG driving the rim. This plus the Q TO's above was more than enough in lost possessions to lose the game.

[MarketingBully]

And Peters lost the ball 5 times trying to dribble/drive the lane. He may have made 1 FG driving the rim. This plus the Q TO's above was more than enough in lost possessions to lose the game.

Actually, Peters only had two turnovers but nice try.

[Coach34]

And Peters lost the ball 5 times trying to dribble/drive the lane. He may have made 1 FG driving the rim. This plus the Q TO's above was more than enough in lost possessions to lose the game.

Not understanding the Peters hate- he scored 7 with 4 boards and 3 assists. Q played more minutes and turned the ball over 5 times to Peters 2- but only scored 7 points as well.

[Coach34]

Someone should bookmark this and drag it back out in a couple of years. I think it will be quite funny.

feel free. In two years he will still be a defensive specialist that struggles on offense

[Dawg61]

feel free. In two years he will still be a defensive specialist that struggles on offense

You act like Howland and literally everyone else except you wasn't aware that Ado was signed to help us out on defense not offense. We didn't sign him to feature him on offense we signed him to protect the paint because our defense was atrocious under Ray down low. It's like you're bitching about Brent Rooker not being a very good pitcher. Well no shit bruh he wasn't signed to be a very good pitcher.

[Coach34]

Got to have a functional post game to win ballgames. I dont give a shit who was recruited to do what.

[tcdog70]

one thing that I think would have won the game for Us was We should have ran a zone at The end-OM can't shoot and we could have stopped the dribble drive for lay-ups. Plus it would have protected Ado. Also they for sure wouldn't have expected it.

[Dawg61]

Got to have a functional post game to win ballgames. I dont give a shit who was recruited to do what.

Holman, Datcher and Feazell are better on offense than Ado but none of them are close to him on defense. If you want more offense down low you're giving up more points on the other side. I do think Datcher and Feazell need more minutes. Howland seems reluctant to give it to them and I am guessing it's cause they aren't playing defense as well as he wants.