Lamar Jackson declares for NFL draft

[Irondawg]

Only game this year I watched was our bowl game and I don't see how he makes it as a passer honestly.
Blurb from a site I visit:

Louisville junior QB Lamar Jackson has declared for the NFL draft.

Jackson (6'3/211) had a monster sophomore season in 2016, throwing for 30 touchdowns and running for another 21 on his way to winning the Heisman Trophy, beating out Deshaun Watson, Jabrill Peppers, Baker Mayfield, and Dede Westbrook. NFL draft guru Daniel Jeremiah compared Jackson to Michael Vick over the summer, though he came away believing Jackson was behind Vick in his development as a passer. Our own Josh Norris broke down a number of Jackson' junior-year throws on Twitter recently, noting he can not only make it, but excel, as an NFL passer. Opinions vary on Jackson throughout the draft world, with some even suggesting he should switch positions. Jackson is going to be a fascinating player to track this winter.

[MetEdDawg]

He probably would be the fastest QB in the NFL. And if a team uses that as the reason they draft him, he will never make it.

Manziel was very similar in that his ability to create run opportunities made him special in college. But those don't happen nearly as often in the NFL. Guys are too fast. So the real question is can he throw the football well enough to make it and I think the answer is no.

[confucius say]

Our defense made him quit**

[Irondawg]

Somewhere like Seattle may be a fit as he could do some of the same things R. Wilson does. But it will take a specific system for him. I don't think he could ever make it in a New Orleans or New England type offense.

[thf24]

Judging from just the bowl game, he has huge issues with his footwork, which hurts him throwing from the pocket. And he'll have to throw from the pocket about 200% more in the NFL than he did in college. If he makes it long-term, I think it's going to have to be as a WR or a return specialist. I doubt he can improve enough as a passer before the window for him to stick as a QB closes.

[Todd4State]

Hopefully for him he will go somewhere that there is a veteran who can allow him to develop as a passer and a player. As a rookie I could see him being valuable in a limited package right off the bat even while he is developing sort of like Kordell Stewart back in the day but with a much higher ceiling as a QB than Stewart.

I think he could eventually make it in the NFL as a QB.

[CarolinaDawgs]

ONE HELL OF A WIDEOUT

[Dawgface]

There is a place for him in the NFL. Receiver, kick returner and maybe as an emergency qb(3rd string). Will be interesting to see who drafts him and what round.

[Jack Lambert]

Our defense made him quit**

Got him more in shape. He was running for his life most of the game.

[ShotgunDawg]

Jackson is Calvin Ridley 2.0 at WR.

It's what he is. Won't make it as a QB

[Ifyouonlyknew]

With as much garbage playing QB in the league now he can definitely play QB. Not his rookie year but after a year in the system.

[parabrave]

Future K/O returner.

[Johnson85]

With as much garbage playing QB in the league now he can definitely play QB. Not his rookie year but after a year in the system.

Yeah, I just don't see why he can't be one of the top 64 qbs in the league. And the ability to use him for packages involving QB runs should maybe add some value as he can actually get involved in most games, not just when the 1st string QB is hurt.

[CarolinaDawgs]

With as much garbage playing QB in the league now he can definitely play QB. Not his rookie year but after a year in the system.

Agreed, the backups in the league are damn near awful. with the bottom 1/3 of starters not being all that great. Somebody will likely give him a shot.

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

A lot of you are basing this "He can't play QB" line on one meaningless bowl game. He had a great college career throwing the ball and had good completion % and TD/INT ratio. Add that in with the fact he's probably the fastest QB since Mike Vick makes him a pretty intriguing option at QB in the draft. I agree with IYOK, there are so many clowns playing QB in the NFL right now that I have no doubt Jackson can play QB in the NFL.

[Homedawg]

Terrell Pryor part 2.

[KentuckyDawg13]

Have watched UofL multiple times this season, local team and all. Lamar is usually a very precise/hard-throwing QB in addition to his leg speed. Our DL just totally dominated the line of scrimmage thus negating his usual setup/timing. Lamar throws the ball with a lot of zip and usually very accurate.

He will be a good NFL QB, the thing that he should worry about is taking NFL hits routinely. He needs to add some bulk/muscle to take the punishment.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Terrell Pryor part 2.

Not close

[msstate7]

Not close

Final season for each...

Pryor:
65.0% 2772 yds 8.7 per att 27 td 11 int.
157.9 passer rating
135 rushes 754 yds 5.6 per 4 td

Jackson:
59.1% 3660 yds 8.5 per att 27 td 10 int
146.6 passer rating
232 rushes 1601 yds 6.9 per 18 td

Passing, they look very similar.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/terrelle-pryor-1.html

http://www.cfbstats.com/2017/player/367/1071227/index.html

[iPat09]

All this kinda reminds me of the "Dak will be a great TE in the NFL" argument that people here like to make fun of. We all see how that turned out.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Final season for each...

Pryor:
65.0% 2772 yds 8.7 per att 27 td 11 int.
157.9 passer rating
135 rushes 754 yds 5.6 per 4 td

Jackson:
59.1% 3660 yds 8.5 per att 27 td 10 int
146.6 passer rating
232 rushes 1601 yds 6.9 per 18 td

Passing, they look very similar.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/terrelle-pryor-1.html

http://www.cfbstats.com/2017/player/367/1071227/index.html

I'm not talking stats. Watching Pryor throw at Ohio St he never looked like a NFL QB passing the ball. Lamar can make some throws that wow you. I think the problem is the last time anybody saw him was his worst game in the 3yrs at Louisville.

[bulldawg28]

Some of you are really reaching stating he's NOT a NFL Qb. He had the worst game of his career against us. I give our defense credit versus trying to bash him. Either we're a good defense or not. Let's say it this way. Had he performed like normal statistically they would have beaten us by 17 points.

[IMissJack]

Is he going as a receiver? Because I don't think he did anything well (except run) in our bowl game. He is an excellent athlete, and can run a spread run game great, but needs a lot of improvement in the passing dept.

[TUSK]

Our defense made him quit**

Nah, MDL made his ass quit back in September (when this was released):

2018 Alabama football schedule

DATE OPPONENT
Sept. 1 vs. Louisville (Orlando)
Sept. 8 ARKANSAS STATE
Sept. 15 at Ole Miss
Sept. 22 TEXAS A&M
Sept. 29 LOUISIANA-LAFAYETTE
Oct. 6 at Arkansas
Oct. 13 MISSOURI
Oct. 20 at Tennessee
Oct. 27 Open Date
Nov. 3 at LSU
Nov. 10 MISSISSIPPI STATE
Nov. 17 CITADEL
Nov. 24 AUBURN

[Percho]

How did Baker look when Ga started getting pressure on him?

How did Peyton look when under intense pressure?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Is he going as a receiver? Because I don't think he did anything well (except run) in our bowl game. He is an excellent athlete, and can run a spread run game great, but needs a lot of improvement in the passing dept.

How many other games of his did you watch besides the bowl game?

[msstate7]

How did Baker look when Ga started getting pressure on him?

How did Peyton look when under intense pressure?

I am not predicting Jackson future either way, but he made terrible throws even when there was no pressure vs us

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I am not predicting Jackson future either way, but he made terrible throws even when there was no pressure vs us

Oh he no doubt had a bad game. A terrible game but using the worst game of his career to determine his potential at the next level is not smart.

[msstate7]

Oh he no doubt had a bad game. A terrible game but using the worst game of his career to determine his potential at the next level is not smart.

Yeah, I have no idea how he will do. If the choice is him or mayfield though, I go with baker

[Homedawg]

Not close

I'll just have to disagree.

[Homedawg]

Oh he no doubt had a bad game. A terrible game but using the worst game of his career to determine his potential at the next level is not smart.

i'm not using one game. He's not an nfl passer and I don't think he ever will be. I stand by that. I watched him numerous times. He's an ok passer and his comp percentage bears that out. Time will tell.

[bulldawg28]

Jackson was twice the Qb Dak was in college. It ain't even close.

[BB30]

Dude the guy is a freak athlete. He has every tool you could possibly look for in a QB he is just still pretty raw. He was playing highschool ball just 3 years ago. if he gets in with a team where he can develop he has a chance to be a terrific QB in the NFL. If he goes to the Browns he is screwed like any other QB in the draft. The NFL will like him because of all of the tools he has to work with. Comparing him to Manziel or Pryor is a joke. He has the size and arm strength to make it. Also if you watched him in any other game the dude was great at making it through progressions and finding his second, third and forth option something even Dak wasn't all that good at until his Senior year.

Most of his mechanical issues are fairly easy fixes. He doesn't have any hitches in his delivery and he gets the ball out of his hand quick. He does rely on his arm a bit much and doesn't always get his legs involved in the throw and he doesn't throw off his front foot from time to time which will occasionally hurt your accuracy. but those are easy to fix compared to flaws in his throwing motion.

I think he has a bright future as a QB in the league especially as week at the QB position is collectively around the NFL right now. He might not be a top5 or 10 QB in the league for a while but he certainly is talented enough to make a roster as a QB and earn a starting job in the next year or two.

[confucius say]

He'll start at some point, but I'm not sure he is ever a multi year NFL starter. Hope he goes to a good fit for him.
I didn't watch him but a handful of times, but his stats against sec teams sucked compared to non sec teams.

[Homedawg]

Jackson was twice the Qb Dak was in college. It ain't even close.

He might be twice athletically, which allowed him to make people miss. Which, in turn probably made him a better college qb. However, he wasn't twice the passer and thats what matters in the nfl. Just the way it is.

[BB30]

He might be twice athletically, which allowed him to make people miss. Which, in turn probably made him a better college qb. However, he wasn't twice the passer and thats what matters in the nfl. Just the way it is.

You could without a doubt argue he was twice the passer Dak was. Dak wasn't a good passer until his Sr year and didnt really take the reigns over his junior year. Lamar started as a true freshman. Dak would have been lost on the field as a true freshman.

Lamar is more physically gifted as a passer than Dak is as well. He has more arm talent without a doubt. Only argument you could make for Dak was that he has unbelievable leadership qualities and that is worth a lot. But from a physical tools standpoint Lamar and Dak aren't even in the same ball park.

And that is not a knock on Dak he is and was a great QB.

[Homedawg]

You could without a doubt argue he was twice the passer Dak was. Dak wasn't a good passer until his Sr year and didnt really take the reigns over his junior year. Lamar started as a true freshman. Dak would have been lost on the field as a true freshman.

Lamar is more physically gifted as a passer than Dak is as well. He has more arm talent without a doubt. Only argument you could make for Dak was that he has unbelievable leadership qualities and that is worth a lot. But from a physical tools standpoint Lamar and Dak aren't even in the same ball park.

And that is not a knock on Dak he is and was a great QB.

i was referring to the years that they were both starting qb's. The conversation, at least not from me, isn't about a tr fr year or even fr year. Moreso, the year they are leaving for the league and No, Lamar wasnt a better passer in their final year. period.
ETA, go look at the stats, sorry your argument doesn't compute.

[Homedawg]

You could without a doubt argue he was twice the passer Dak was. Dak wasn't a good passer until his Sr year and didnt really take the reigns over his junior year. Lamar started as a true freshman. Dak would have been lost on the field as a true freshman.

Lamar is more physically gifted as a passer than Dak is as well. He has more arm talent without a doubt. Only argument you could make for Dak was that he has unbelievable leadership qualities and that is worth a lot. But from a physical tools standpoint Lamar and Dak aren't even in the same ball park.

And that is not a knock on Dak he is and was a great QB.

After reading your post again, how in the shit can you argue without a doubt as you say? That's just plain wrong. And I will agree Lamar has a stronger arm. Bookmark this and get back to me when Lamar is a two year starter in the NFL. there are lots of shitty qb's that start a game, that wont cut it.

[bulldawg28]

He might be twice athletically, which allowed him to make people miss. Which, in turn probably made him a better college qb. However, he wasn't twice the passer and thats what matters in the nfl. Just the way it is.

Let's see:

Jackson- Passing 9,043 yards passing, 69 TD's, 27 ints
Rushing - 4,132 , 50 TD's (3 years no redshirt)

Dak-Passing 9,376 yards, 70 TD's, 23 ints
Rushing- 2,521, 41 TD's (5th year Redshirted senior)

I'm taking Jackson all day everyday. You would too if you wanted to win.

[msstate7]

Let's see:

Jackson- Passing 9,043 yards passing, 69 TD's, 27 ints
Rushing - 4,132 , 50 TD's (3 years no redshirt)

Dak-Passing 9,376 yards, 70 TD's, 23 ints
Rushing- 2,521, 41 TD's (5th year Redshirted senior)

I'm taking Jackson all day everyday. You would too if you wanted to win.

Passer rating...
Dak = 151.7
Jackson = 148.8

[bulldawg28]

Passer rating...
Dak = 151.7
Jackson = 148.8

Lol...so that's a big difference? It took Dak 5 years to develop that . Lamar was/is doing more in 3 years. Lamar also did more with less talent.

[confucius say]

Let's see:

Jackson- Passing 9,043 yards passing, 69 TD's, 27 ints
Rushing - 4,132 , 50 TD's (3 years no redshirt)

Dak-Passing 9,376 yards, 70 TD's, 23 ints
Rushing- 2,521, 41 TD's (5th year Redshirted senior)

I'm taking Jackson all day everyday. You would too if you wanted to win.

Why? Dak did his in 2.5 years. Jackson did his in 3 years. And dak faced more nfl talent while in college.

[confucius say]

Lol...so that's a big difference? It took Dak 5 years to develop that . Lamar was/is doing more in 3 years. Lamar also did more with less talent.

So your argument is Jackson developed more quickly? Ok.

Go look at jacksons stats against sec defenses. They suck. Then go look at daks.

[bulldawg28]

Why? Dak did his in 2.5 years. Jackson did his in 3 years. And dak faced more nfl talent while in college.

What part of 5 years are you missing? Is it Jackson's fault Dak didn't beat the guys In front of him? He also plays in the ACC it's loaded with NFL talent and former and runner up national champion.

[bulldawg28]

So your argument is Jackson developed more quickly? Ok.

Go look at jacksons stats against sec defenses. They suck. Then go look at daks.

Dak had better talent around him. However, Dak couldn't have done what Jackson did at Louisville. We definitely would have won a national title with Lamar Jackson

[BB30]

i was referring to the years that they were both starting qb's. The conversation, at least not from me, isn't about a tr fr year or even fr year. Moreso, the year they are leaving for the league and No, Lamar wasnt a better passer in their final year. period.
ETA, go look at the stats, sorry your argument doesn't compute.

Sorry your maroon colored glasses don't allow you to see why the years they played make a difference.... Big difference in a 17-18 YO and a 22 YO that has developed for 3 years before seeing meaningful snaps under one of the best QB coaches in the college game. Lamar was able to do it right out of high school with arguably less talent around him. The guy was the youngest player to ever win a Heisman man. But yea hes garbage and can't throw. What a joke.

Sorry your argument doesn't compute. And lets see if Lamar ends up in a situation as taylormade for him as Dallas is for Dak. More than likely Lamar will end up in a sh** situation. If Dak was playing for the Browns he would already be out of the league more than likely.

Dak was a below average to average passer up until his senior year and that is a fact. He had more help around him his junior year and that offset/ hid some deficiencies in his passing game. And I am proud Dak is a Dog and hope that he has a long and successful career but his passing ability isn't what makes him great, his intangibles are what makes Dak great.

and statistically speaking for the 3 years since you apparently don't think it matters we can just compare Daks first three years to Lamar's first three(who was better in their first 3 years?):

Lamar Jackson: 619-1086 57% 9,043 yds 69 TDS 27 INT 2.55 TD/INT

Dak Prescott: 418- 692 60.7% 5,583 yds 41 TDS 18 INT 2.27 TD/INT

Rushing:

Lamar Jackson 655att 4,132yds 50 TDS 6.3 YPC

Dak 376att 1,933yds 31 TDS 5.14 YPC

[bulldawg28]

Sorry your maroon colored glasses don't allow you to see why the years they played make a difference.... Big difference in a 17-18 YO and a 22 YO that has developed for 3 years before seeing meaningful snaps under one of the best QB coaches in the college game. Lamar was able to do it right out of high school with arguably less talent around him. The guy was the youngest player to ever win a Heisman man. But yea hes garbage and can't throw. What a joke.

Sorry your argument doesn't compute. And lets see if Lamar ends up in a situation as taylormade for him as Dallas is for Dak. More than likely Lamar will end up in a sh** situation. If Dak was playing for the Browns he would already be out of the league more than likely.

Dak was a below average to average passer up until his senior year and that is a fact. He had more help around him his junior year and that offset/ hid some deficiencies in his passing game. And I am proud Dak is a Dog and hope that he has a long and successful career but his passing ability isn't what makes him great, his intangibles are what makes Dak great.

Nothing but the truth.

[confucius say]

What part of 5 years are you missing? Is it Jackson's fault Dak didn't beat the guys In front of him? He also plays in the ACC it's loaded with NFL talent and former and runner up national champion.

Who cares how long each was in college. Dak put up better passing stats than Jackson while taking less snaps. Fact.

Sec has had more players go to NFL than Acc for 12 straight years. Again, Go look what Jackson did against sec teams.

[BB30]

Who cares how long each was in college. Dak put up better passing stats than Jackson while taking less snaps. Fact.

Sec has had more players go to NFL than Acc for 12 straight years. Again, Go look what Jackson did against sec teams.

Dak also wasn't asked to do nearly as much in the passing game as Lamar was and his YPA were less than Jacksons. Louisvilles passing game was a tad more vertical than States was under Mullen.

And for the record I am not saying Dak wasn't a good college QB or didn't deserve to be taken higher in the draft. A pile of NFL teams screwed up not drafting him although the situation he is in has had a whole lot to do with his success. All I am saying is Lamar jackson has all of the tools needed to make a very good NFL QB.

If anything yall arguing Dak is as good as Lamar are making an argument for why Lamar should be drafted high. They are similar players with Lamar being a bit more explosive. I don't follow Lville enough to know what type of character L. Jackson is but I haven't heard or seen anything negative about him.

[BulldogBacker]

ONE HELL OF A WIDEOUT

Who is also used in the shotgun!

[Homedawg]

Let's see:

Jackson- Passing 9,043 yards passing, 69 TD's, 27 ints
Rushing - 4,132 , 50 TD's (3 years no redshirt)

Dak-Passing 9,376 yards, 70 TD's, 23 ints
Rushing- 2,521, 41 TD's (5th year Redshirted senior)

I'm taking Jackson all day everyday. You would too if you wanted to win.

Maybe you should read my argument. I never said I wouldn't take Lamar over dak on a college team. This is about the NFL and passing in college. At least those were my point. Try reading

[bulldawg28]

Maybe you should read my argument. I never said I wouldn't take Lamar over dak on a college team. This is about the NFL and passing in college. At least those were my point. Try reading

Lol... so in other words you have nothing else to argue. Cool, because Lamar is better than Dak in college in passing. Try reading and comprehending. Stats don't lie.

[bulldawg28]

Who cares how long each was in college. Dak put up better passing stats than Jackson while taking less snaps. Fact.

Sec has had more players go to NFL than Acc for 12 straight years. Again, Go look what Jackson did against sec teams.

Let's get this straight. Your argument is less means more. So how would you possibly compare what Lamar did against SEC schools if he only played 5 games against them? His record against ranked teams is better than Dak's.

[Quaoarsking]

Rumor is that the Giants are considering taking him with pick #2, so actual teams may not be so skeptical of his NFL QB potential.

[msstate7]

Rumor is that the Giants are considering taking him with pick #2, so actual teams may not be so skeptical of his NFL QB potential.

Wow. That would actually put him in the same spot as RG3, who I think is a good comparison. RG3 could have been good if not for injuries.

[Homedawg]

Rumor is that the Giants are considering taking him with pick #2, so actual teams may not be so skeptical of his NFL QB potential.

Omg please let this be true!!!! And there is zero chance they are this stupid......well I think. But I pray this ridiculous rumor is true.

[West Tn Dawg]

Why is this such a hot topic on a MSU board?
Yall need to get this passionate about our teams and players.

[Homedawg]

Lol... so in other words you have nothing else to argue. Cool, because Lamar is better than Dak in college in passing. Try reading and comprehending. Stats don't lie.

Me try reading? Wtf? Twice as good of a passer? Did I say that? No that was said about Lamar over dak. The stats say that's bullshit you stupid ass. Go pull the passing stats. That's what it's based on. Nobody gives a shit about runnin in the NFL

[Homedawg]

28 please pull those passing stats you speak of pal..... should be good.

[msstate7]

Why is this such a hot topic on a MSU board?
Yall need to get this passionate about our teams and players.

Very few are back fully invested in basketball and our recruiting is very boring right now. Just not a lot to talk about right now

[bulldawg28]

28 please pull those passing stats you speak of pal..... should be good.

Talk about reading. I posted all of his stats earlier vs Dak. Scroll back up

[Homedawg]

Talk about reading. I posted all of his stats earlier vs Dak. Scroll back up

Yes you did..... so show me in those stats posted where he, lamar, was even with dak, much less twice as good. Hell he never ever completed 60% of his passes. Ever!! So again, I ask for you to post the stats where lamar is BETTER than dak. I won't even ask for twice as good anymore. Just please try. Were the stats close? Yep. But dak's were better. Yep. I hate it when stats agree w me. But continue to argue if you will

[bulldawg28]

Yes you did..... so show me in those stats posted where he, lamar, was even with dak, much less twice as good. Hell he never ever completed 60% of his passes. Ever!! So again, I ask for you to post the stats where lamar is BETTER than dak. I won't even ask for twice as good anymore. Just please try. Were the stats close? Yep. But dak's were better. Yep. I hate it when stats agree w me. But continue to argue if you will

You accept a small portion of the data. That portion is the ONLY piece Dak leads and only by 300 yards. That's as ignorant as it gets. The entire body of work is clear and anyone outside MSU homer glasses sees it. Let's see if he is drafted before Dak in the 4th round. If your facts are correct he's a free agent or 5th round at best.

[Homedawg]

You accept a small portion of the data. That portion is the ONLY piece Dak leads and only by 300 yards. That's as ignorant as it gets. The entire body of work is clear and anyone outside MSU homer glasses sees it. Let's see if he is drafted before Dak in the 4th round. If your facts are correct he's a free agent or 5th round at best.
What small portion? Better comp rate? More yards. More td. Less int. Better qb rating even though the qb rating includes running. Wow. Yeah I've missed it. Dude you've come to a fun fight w a damn pocket knife. Find once where I said lamar wasn't good. Once. I said dak was a better college passer. And your stupid ass continues to argue. But again carry on.
ETA, I never said he wouldn't be drafted higher than dak. I said he was t Pryor, don't think he will be a good NFL qb. With that said, that won't be proven for a few years. What is proven is that dak was a better college passer in almost every category!!

[confucius say]

Let's get this straight. Your argument is less means more. So how would you possibly compare what Lamar did against SEC schools if he only played 5 games against them? His record against ranked teams is better than Dak's.

1. I don't know what "less means more" means. My argument is dak was a better passer in college than Jackson and put up better numbers despite taking less snaps.

2. He played 7 sec teams. That's 18% of his games. Plenty large enough sample size.

[Homedawg]

1. I don't know what "less means more" means. My argument is dak was a better passer in college than Jackson and put up better numbers despite taking less snaps.

2. He played 7 sec teams. That's 18% of his games. Plenty large enough sample size.

Don't start letting FACTS get in the way of his argument. It's amazing really.

[bulldawg28]

1. I don't know what "less means more" means. My argument is dak was a better passer in college than Jackson and put up better numbers despite taking less snaps.

2. He played 7 sec teams. That's 18% of his games. Plenty large enough sample size.

18% is a large percentage of what total number ? What are you smoking? Biased much? Keep up the good work homer.

[bulldawg28]

What small portion? Better comp rate? More yards. More td. Less int. Better qb rating even though the qb rating includes running. Wow. Yeah I've missed it. Dude you've come to a fun fight w a damn pocket knife. Find once where I said lamar wasn't good. Once. I said dak was a better college passer. And your stupid ass continues to argue. But again carry on.
ETA, I never said he wouldn't be drafted higher than dak. I said he was t Pryor, don't think he will be a good NFL qb. With that said, that won't be proven for a few years. What is proven is that dak was a better college passer in almost every category!!

The last i checked they both play Qb. It consists of running and passing. If your brain cant comprehend that numbers show Jackson is better your on the lines of a 5 year old. You win.

[Homedawg]

The last i checked they both play Qb. It consists of running and passing. If your brain cant comprehend that numbers show Jackson is better your on the lines of a 5 year old. You win.

The thread was started about Lamar turning pro. Thus, the emphasis on passing!! If you think running and passing as a qb in he the NFL are equal I can't help you. But no worries, Lamar was the batter passer in college ********

[confucius say]

18% is a large percentage of what total number ? What are you smoking? Biased much? Keep up the good work homer.

18% is a "large enough" sample size. You take stats? It is not merely a coincidence that in his 7 sec games his numbers were much worse on the average than the other 32 games.