Basketball vs Little Rock game thread

[Dawg61]

Going for 10-1 tonight

[starkvegasdawg]

Tied 7-7 15:48. Look Great good on D so far.

[LC Dawg]

Tied 7-7 15:48. Look Great good on D so far.

Are you at the game? You are a minute or two ahead of WatchESPN.

[Dawg61]

Everybody got a haircut for Christmas

[starkvegasdawg]

Yeah. I?m at the game.

[starkvegasdawg]

Two quick fouls for Herard and he?s back to the bench.

[LC Dawg]

Two quick fouls for Herard and he?s back to the bench.

Herard has regressed so much it?s painful to watch.

[starkvegasdawg]

Holman back to line after fouled on another dunk attempt. Four team fouls on the condoms from AR.

[Big4Dawg]

Holman goes up so slow

[starkvegasdawg]

12-11 at the timeout. Dogs at the line on the return. Five team fouls for ARLR.

[Bully13]

welp, no ESPN3 for me anymore. UVERSE to DTV victim.

[starkvegasdawg]

Lamar airballed a 3. 17-14 MSU with 9:48 left.

[Irondawg]

We continue to look terrible offensively against bad teams in the 1st half. I keep wanting to believe this team can find some mojo but my eyes keep telling me otherwise.

If we don't pull it together there the SEC season is going to be long. We can't just expect to wear people down in the 2nd half like we have against some of these lesser talented teams.

[Dawg61]

Shooting 3's better so far besides Peters

[starkvegasdawg]

Just look out of synch on offense.

[starkvegasdawg]

19-16 with the tv TO. 7:44 to go.

[Dawg61]

Oliver Black plays for LR and Wes Flanigan is their HC.

[LC Dawg]

I don?t know if it?s been mentioned on another thread but the women beat UNLV today. Just another ho-hum 40 point win.

[thf24]

Why is this team so opposed to throwing the ball in to the low post? So many times Ado or someone else is posted up with good position, and practically ignored. I'm sure the fact that there isn't much our big guys can do with the ball right now is part of the consideration, but Peters air balling a three out of bounds couldn't possibly be a better outcome than whatever happens after throwing the ball to Feazell who's got position right under the basket. I don't understand why at minimum Howland isn't telling them to throw it in and right back out again just to move the defense.

[DownwardDawg]

Jan 2nd, vs Arkansas, my son sings the National Anthem!!!

[Political Hack]

6-6 and smooth with hands. It really wouldn’t surprise me if he sees the field quick. Even as talented as we are here he’s such a game changer at 6-6 with speed and hands. I can’t believe he wasn’t rated higher. Recruiting rankings make no sense to me.

[HoopsDawg]

Just look out of synch on offense.

Howland has played 10 players and gone with some crazy combinations. SMH.

[LC Dawg]

6-6 and smooth with hands. It really wouldn?t surprise me if he sees the field quick. Even as talented as we are here he?s such a game changer at 6-6 with speed and hands. I can?t believe he wasn?t rated higher. Recruiting rankings make no sense to me.

It?s been a long day hasn?t it Hack? Ha!

[parabrave]

Why is this team so opposed to throwing the ball in to the low post? So many times Ado or someone else is posted up with good position, and practically ignored. I'm sure the fact that there isn't much our big guys can do with the ball right now is part of the consideration, but Peters air balling a three out of bounds couldn't possibly be a better outcome than whatever happens after throwing the ball to Feazell who's got position right under the basket. I don't understand why at minimum Howland isn't telling them to throw it in and right back out again just to move the defense.

Well one reason may be that Ado has been turning the ball over when he gets it. Another reason is because some think they are still playing AAU ball.

[maroonmania]

We are terrible shooters. Can't even make free throws now.

[starkvegasdawg]

We need to practice FT?s.

[maroonmania]

Can Howland hire a shooting coach? Our shooting form is terrible both from the field and FT line.

[msstate7]

Not watching, but checked score... what the heck is going on with this team? Sec play could be tough

[starkvegasdawg]

Q with 1,000 career points.

[LC Dawg]

We have too much talent to have these extended scoring droughts. I still say little Spoon has got to become the guy that we can always count on to keep us from these droughts. Q tries but he just doesn?t have it in him. I think Nick does.

[Political Hack]

Jan 2nd, vs Arkansas, my son sings the National Anthem!!!

Nice. He coming with a group or is bringing a solo act?

[starkvegasdawg]

At the half 26-23 MSU.

[HoopsDawg]

Not watching, but checked score... what the heck is going on with this team? Sec play could be tough

Tough decisions need to be made and Howland can't make them.

[parabrave]

Not watching, but checked score... what the heck is going on with this team? Sec play could be tough
take
25% shooting. Not one FG the last 8 mins of the half. Thank baby jesus for the refs and we are only making 60%. Take Q out and we are getting smoked.

[Eric Nies Grind Time]

Why does Carter look so timid? You would think they are handling a greased ball on offense. Howland needs to make some roster changes in the offseason. A couple of these players are not SEC caliber.

[HoopsDawg]

Why does Carter look so timid? You would think they are handling a greased ball on offense. Howland needs to make some roster changes in the offseason. A couple of these players are not SEC caliber.

B/C he weighs 160 pounds.

[Irondawg]

we are probably the worst coached team on offense in the nation that actually has talent. That or we have the dumbest players.

Our lack of offensive movement is honestly astounding

[HoopsDawg]

we are probably the worst coached team on offense in the nation that actually has talent. That or we have the dumbest players.

Our lack of offensive movement is honestly astounding

Kind of agree. 24% is hard to do. Howland needs to play either X or Wright but not both of them.

[Dawg61]

Not watching, but checked score... what the heck is going on with this team? Sec play could be tough

Looks to me like we're just coasting through this game playing at about 60% energy.

[starkvegasdawg]

Just like that 32-23 and a TO by the condoms.

[maroonmania]

Q is basically our team tonight.

[LC Dawg]

Nice start to the 2nd half.

[maroonmania]

Oh crap, Peters back in.

[starkvegasdawg]

37-29 at the TO. 15:04 to go

[Dawg61]

Carter is a good driver.

[starkvegasdawg]

My son just made Jumbotron.

[starkvegasdawg]

Nick hurt his hand on that alley oop attempt.

[DownwardDawg]

Nice. He coming with a group or is bringing a solo act?

Solo

[starkvegasdawg]

On the bench with his fingers in a cup of ice.

[starkvegasdawg]

Holman made the oop with the alley that try.

[starkvegasdawg]

47-31 with 12:06 to go. We come back shooting FT.

[starkvegasdawg]

Sec refs suck in BB, too.

[starkvegasdawg]

Nick coming back in. 50-33 with 9:57.

[starkvegasdawg]

Lamar with his second airball of the night.

[Political Hack]

Solo

Damn. Must be talented.

[starkvegasdawg]

62-40 with 3:03 to go.

We?re 5/23 behind the arc. 21/52 overall. 15/26 from the line.

[HoopsDawg]

We are defending and rebounding well. Just can't shoot.

[Dawg61]

Peters still isn't shooting well but he's playing a lot better tonight. Unselfish play and nice passes all night. Seems to be having some fun again.

[starkvegasdawg]

We are defending and rebounding well. Just can't shoot.

Yep. They?re just 18/49 FG, 4/17 for 3 and 2/4 from the line.

[starkvegasdawg]

Clearing the bench. The white boy just came in.

[ATTILLA THE DOG]

This is a very bad team we are playng,lost by 40 to bradley.Our offense has to improve if we are going to be decent in sc play.

[Dawg61]

Good lord just give him a flagrant instead of wasting five minutes here reviewing it

[thf24]

I'd like to see a little more of Feazell. Appears to be our most skilled big guy in very limited minutes.

[starkvegasdawg]

Final 64-48.

[Dawg61]

I'd like to see a little more of Feazell. Appears to be our most skilled big guy in very limited minutes.

Feazell and Singleton both deserve more minutes

[MCsMGs]

Saw some things I liked tonight, but blanking out for extended minutes(especially in the first half) has me puzzled. I keep thinking we are gonna get our shooting back to a reasonable level, but it has been one or two guys that shoot well for a game. Q and Holman have been the only ones to even remotely play consistent from game to game.

I hope we are just playing down to the level of competition and these guys find their shot soon!

[HoopsDawg]

Feazell and Singleton both deserve more minutes

Singleton? I see you keep saying this so I guess you are serious.

[DownwardDawg]

Damn. Must be talented.

Search Hunter Lott on YouTube. I've been meaning to post a link on here.

[HoopsDawg]

I'd like to see a little more of Feazell. Appears to be our most skilled big guy in very limited minutes.

Might have to cut out Herard and Datcher and just go with Ado-Holman-Feazell in the post. Holman can play the 5 in small stretches.

[HoopsDawg]

This is a very bad team we are playng,lost by 40 to bradley.Our offense has to improve if we are going to be decent in sc play.

I know, I had MSU -21 so that one hurt. Atrocious 3 point and FT shooting cost us. And then we brought in our scrubs kind of early.

[DownwardDawg]

https://youtu.be/CRF-p2zy9ew

[parabrave]

I know, I had MSU -21 so that one hurt. Atrocious 3 point and FT shooting cost us. And then we brought in our scrubs kind of early.

5-25 on your home court isn't atrocious it is worse. 55% FT shooting is just plain unacceptable. Can someone please explain what the overall offensive concept of this team is? I mean besides going bombs away from 3 point land.

[Bully13]

5-25 on your home court isn't atrocious it is worse. 55% FT shooting is just plain unacceptable. Can someone please explain what the overall offensive concept of this team is? I mean besides going bombs away from 3 point land.

they had a blunt party prior to the game.

[MCsMGs]

5-25 on your home court isn't atrocious it is worse. 55% FT shooting is just plain unacceptable. Can someone please explain what the overall offensive concept of this team is? I mean besides going bombs away from 3 point land.

It's a motion offense...problem is that the players go through the first set and if they don't get a shot, they stop moving instead of following the progression they go over in practice. I bet Howland yells "MOVE!" at them 600 times a game! Another problem is that we aren't very good with our ball screens...the timing and spacing don't look right to me which causes the play to break down and players to be out of position.

Of course, that's my read and if I really knew what I was talking about, I would be getting paid millions of dollars to coach somewhere. Ha!

[Dawg61]

Singleton? I see you keep saying this so I guess you are serious.

Watch him when he plays. He deserves more than 2 minutes a game. Any minutes he gets over Herard is a plus right now. Both him and Feazell. Until Herard can learn to play like a 6'11 guy.

[Dawg61]

Howland only played 8 guys more than ten minutes tonight so y'all can chill on the constant bitching of playing too many dudes.

[mparkerfd20]

It's a motion offense...problem is that the players go through the first set and if they don't get a shot, they stop moving instead of following the progression they go over in practice. I bet Howland yells "MOVE!" at them 600 times a game! Another problem is that we aren't very good with our ball screens...the timing and spacing don't look right to me which causes the play to break down and players to be out of position.

Of course, that's my read and if I really knew what I was talking about, I would be getting paid millions of dollars to coach somewhere. Ha!

It's a motion offense all right... We go through the motions of saying we have an offense. What we really have isn't even street ball. It's run down the court and throw up a shit shot.

[MetEdDawg]

Feazell thinks quick in a zone. Makes fast decisions. We need to get him more minutes because he seems like the only one smart enough to consistently position himself to bust a zone.

No one else can do it or is willing to do it. We either jack up a contested 3, turn the ball over, or make an ill advised drive to the basket.

[msstate7]

A couple weeks ago, everyone wanted ado and datcher in the post. Now everyone seems to want ado and feazell. This tells me maybe we do need to keep playing these guys until the competition does not allow us to anymore

[Dawg61]

A couple weeks ago, everyone wanted ado and datcher in the post. Now everyone seems to want ado and feazell. This tells me maybe we do need to keep playing these guys until the competition does not allow us to anymore

Datcher has been totally absent since turning his ankle. Whenever he can recover from a twisted ankle and contribute again he needs minutes. Might be a career ending ankle twist though based on how little Howland has played him in the last 3 weeks.

[Coach007]

I was watching the replay last night. Stayed away from looking for the score....etc. Wanted to watch not knowing.

I pull up SECN + and start watching. Little Rock 3-9--- MSU 9-1. First half ends, watch Matt and as the 2nd half begins I noticed a change. Little Rock 3-10 .. MSU 10-1!

Did not even have to watch the 2nd half!

:mad:

[MCsMGs]

Datcher has been totally absent since turning his ankle. Whenever he can recover from a twisted ankle and contribute again he needs minutes. Might be a career ending ankle twist though based on how little Howland has played him in the last 3 weeks.

I talked to EJ after the game on Saturday and asked about his ankle thinking that was why he didn't play...He told me his ankle was 100% good to go.
I didn't inquire further as I avoid issues that may involve anything other than on court performance. Not sure if he is a victim of a tightening of the rotation, but that doesn't make much sense given how he was playing prior to the ankle injury. I suppose it should be noted that Howland has a history of being very conservative bringing back players after injuries, so that may be all there is to it.

[Dawg61]

Datcher isn't in the top 8 in rotation. Neither is Herard so they aren't seeing minutes as we gear up for SEC play. If those two want to play more they need to figure out how to be big dudes on the court not just off the court. Herard is a total wtf to me. I can't imagine being that damn big and not wanting to rip down the rim every second you're on the court.

[tcdog70]

Datcher isn't in the top 8 in rotation. Neither is Herard so they aren't seeing minutes as we gear up for SEC play. If those two want to play more they need to figure out how to be big dudes on the court not just off the court. Herard is a total wtf to me. I can't imagine being that damn big and not wanting to rip down the rim every second you're on the court.

Herard has no instinct on rebounding. If He would just defend and rebound that would be great. He should get 6-8 points a game on offensive rebounding. wish LRob could teach him.

[Dawg61]

Herard has no instinct on rebounding. If He would just defend and rebound that would be great. He should get 6-8 points a game on offensive rebounding. wish LRob could teach him.

We can nitpick Herard's game all day but really it boils down to his personality. He's just too damn nice for a guy that must rely solely on his size to be effective. He can't dribble, pass or shoot so that means he has almost zero skill. His skill is his size and he's too damn nice to use it effectively. Herard is probably a great person with tremendous character off the court but we need him to beat the shit outta guys on the court and he doesn't understand that. Get your big ass on the block and refuse to move. Push others off that spot and rip the ****ing rim down on every rebound. It's really that simple. Stand a foot from the basket and kill everything that comes close to you. Until he learns that he's just going to be a horrible basketball player. It's like Shaq trying to be a pretty little flower while playing basketball. Doesn't work.

[thf24]

We can nitpick Herard's game all day but really it boils down to his personality. He's just too damn nice for a guy that must rely solely on his size to be effective. He can't dribble, pass or shoot so that means he has almost zero skill. His skill is his size and he's too damn nice to use it effectively. Herard is probably a great person with tremendous character off the court but we need him to beat the shit outta guys on the court and he doesn't understand that. Get your big ass on the block and refuse to move. Push others off that spot and rip the ****ing rim down on every rebound. It's really that simple. Stand a foot from the basket and kill everything that comes close to you. Until he learns that he's just going to be a horrible basketball player. It's like Shaq trying to be a pretty little flower while playing basketball. Doesn't work.

I've said it before but he also seems very anxious a lot of the time, especially when he's near the ball. Might not be as clumsy if he can figure out how to get that under control.

[Dawg61]

I've said it before but he also seems very anxious a lot of the time, especially when he's near the ball. Might not be as clumsy if he can figure out how to get that under control.

Yea he's anxious cause he's afraid to **** up and that's on Howland cause he hasn't effectively taught Herard what he's good at doing. Being huge. Be 6'11. REBOUND/DUNK/BLOCK SHOTS. That's it.

[tcdog70]

as many shots as we miss, Herard has several chances for put backs.He could just work on tip ins.

[Dawg61]

as many shots as we miss, Herard has several chances for put backs.He could just work on tip ins.

If only he was smart enough to realize all he has to do is stand a foot from the basket at all times and dunk everything that comes off the rim.