Read this Richard Cross

[Maroonthirteen]

So yesterday you compared OMs 5 year investigation to Alabama level 2 violation last year in which they fired the coach and didn?t sign the kids. (The Alabama coach?s 2 year show cause appeal was denied ). So You going off about how OM was unfairly investigated for years.

Then today You make a comment about State fans are on twitter implying your school is cheating to sign the QB and now a verbal from a 4star RB. How dare us State fans?????

Look ass clown, Bama self reported. Fired the coach. Didn?t sign the kids. Y?all did everything the exact opposite. AND....oh! Y?all had every school south of Canada turning you in. Did Bama?

Also....21 violations!!! 21!!!! Pardon us if we don?t give you the benefit of the doubt. You have the same coaches and same AD. Dumbass.

I dislike that dude.

[Rejlector84sports]

Top of the six-o-clock news... the Confederates are appealing the second year of sanctions.

They break 13 "felonies", get off with a slap on the wrist, and now are complaining they have too much penalties.

Most definitely they live in a world of their own. Eventually they will get whats coming to them... someone down the line will grow tired of the hissy fits from the spoiled brats and "slap the s**t" out of them.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

This QB will make Chad Kelly look like a choir boy...

[DogsofAnarchy]

#TheNetwork is right back in business. No doubt about it.

[MSUDAWGFAN]

So yesterday you compared OMs 5 year investigation to Alabama level 2 violation last year in which they fired the coach and didn?t sign the kids. (The Alabama coach?s 2 year show cause appeal was denied ). So You going off about how OM was unfairly investigated for years.

Then today You make a comment about State fans are on twitter implying your school is cheating to sign the QB and now a verbal from a 4star RB. How dare us State fans?????

Look ass clown, Bama self reported. Fired the coach. Didn?t sign the kids. Y?all did everything the exact opposite. AND....oh! Y?all had every school south of Canada turning you in. Did Bama?

Also....21 violations!!! 21!!!! Pardon us if we don?t give you the benefit of the doubt. You have the same coaches and same AD. Dumbass.

I dislike that dude.

I thought the reason Bo Davis got a show cause was because he lied to the NCAA. Twice. And I didn't think they self reported it. All he did was have illegal contact with recruits during the dead period. I wouldn't think that would warrant a 2 year show cause by itself.

Can someone please post a link that shows where Bama self reported Bo Davis. I've looked and I cannot find that. I could definitely be wrong.

[msbulldog]

So yesterday you compared OMs 5 year investigation to Alabama level 2 violation last year in which they fired the coach and didn?t sign the kids. (The Alabama coach?s 2 year show cause appeal was denied ). So You going off about how OM was unfairly investigated for years.

Then today You make a comment about State fans are on twitter implying your school is cheating to sign the QB and now a verbal from a 4star RB. How dare us State fans?????

Look ass clown, Bama self reported. Fired the coach. Didn?t sign the kids. Y?all did everything the exact opposite. AND....oh! Y?all had every school south of Canada turning you in. Did Bama?

Also....21 violations!!! 21!!!! Pardon us if we don?t give you the benefit of the doubt. You have the same coaches and same AD. Dumbass.

I dislike that dude.

I love their how dare they, attitude WAOM? They are unhappy with an additional bowl ban, they should be happy they didn't lose an additional 30 schollies! Rep given.

[MSUDAWGFAN]

Bo Davis did in fact lie to the NCAA. They could have self reported that, but if they did, why would he have lied about something Bama self reported? Doesn't make sense, but anything is possible.

http://gridironnow.com/bo-davis-lied-ncaa-recruiting/

[Liverpooldawg]

#TheNetwork is right back in business. No doubt about it.

Not with that QB. It's not hard to get someone if you give them their only real offer. The kid's Dad tweeted today. It basically stated that Mullen dropped him. No surprise there, he is a drop back guy but even if he was Cam Mark two, I don't think Mullen takes this one. He is trouble. Only a place like Ole Miss would even consider one like that. He epitomizes everything Ole Mss believes in.

[was21]

Since OM doesn't have a Jimmy Swaggart for a corch anymore, must be some other reason...of course he might still be worth saving

[Maroonthirteen]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/former-alabama-assistant-gets-two-year-show-cause-penalty-for-ncaa-violations/

Yeah, I could be wrong. They self imposed some penalties Also Bama compliance and the NCAA questioned the coach and he lied to both.

Point remains, Alabama cooperated with the NCAA. They agree on the findings and accepted their penalty. OM has fought and lied as an institution the entire process. Cross comparing the two investigations is ridiculous.

[MSUDAWGFAN]

Not only did Bo Davis lie to the NCAA, Bama paid him off to the tune of $316,666.66. Then, tried to hide that payment when a FOIA request was made.

Let's not pretend that Bama is innocent in any of this. The only thing Bama did right was fire him when he got caught lying to the NCAA, but really they had very little choice. They could have fired him or face the wrath of the NCAA like OM did.

https://alabama.rivals.com/news/breaking-bo-davis-received-316k-payout-in-august

[MSUDAWGFAN]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/former-alabama-assistant-gets-two-year-show-cause-penalty-for-ncaa-violations/

Yeah, I could be wrong. They self imposed some penalties Also Bama compliance and the NCAA questioned the coach and he lied to both.

Point remains, Alabama cooperated with the NCAA. They agree on the findings and accepted their penalty. OM has fought and lied as an institution the entire process. Cross comparing the two investigations is ridiculous.

They self imposed some minor penalties and fired Davis because they pretty much had to. The precedent was set in 2014 when Florida fired Joker Phillips for the same thing. The NCAA accepted that and have no further penalties. Bama did that and got no further penalties as well. The question I would have is if he lied about that, then why? That's very minor and likely nothing would have come of it if he had told the truth. You have to think if he lied about that, it was to cover up bigger things. That would be consistent with Bama paying him off.

[Jack Lambert]

They will sign 4Stars probation or not.

[MSUDAWGFAN]

[QUOTE= Cross comparing the two investigations is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

This we agree on. If OM would have just fired a coach early in the process, none of the investigation would have happened and Freeze would still be their coach.

[SailingDawg]

Still pissed they weren't admonished for leaking our athletes' names.

[shannondawg]

The university has also retained the Mississippi-based law firm of Butler Snow to join the existing legal team of Lightfoot, Franklin & White and Bond, Schoeneck & King for the appeal and other related legal services. Don Barrett of the Barrett Law Group will also join the university’s legal team.

They all going to fit in the meeting room?

[Todd4State]

Not with that QB. It's not hard to get someone if you give them their only real offer. The kid's Dad tweeted today. It basically stated that Mullen dropped him. No surprise there, he is a drop back guy but even if he was Cam Mark two, I don't think Mullen takes this one. He is trouble. Only a place like Ole Miss would even consider one like that. He epitomizes everything Ole Mss believes in.

The fact that USC dropped him says a lot.

[bobtail bob]

It was just a way for Dick Crossed to brag on a four star. He is 100% plantation and mocks us at every turn. Cold stones Matt Wyatt should whip his ass and resign.

[MSUDAWGFAN]

Actually, Cross is correct. The NCAA has rules that it enforces at different levels all the time. USC got much worse for not nearly as much. OM should have gotten much worse than USC. If I was USC, I'd have my legal team preparing a case against he NCAA right now. It isn't fair that OM did much worse and got so much less.

[TrapGame]

The Network will be in full operation in 2018 trying to get as many 4* MS recruits they can buy!

[Todd4State]

The Network will be in full operation in 2018 trying to get as many 4* MS recruits they can buy!

I may be naive- but Dan's lack of recruiting was a big factor in that too.

We've mostly cleaned out the state on the defensive side and even have some players that Ole Miss offered money too- like Leo Lewis. It's the offensive side of the ball- the former country club side- where we were consistently getting beat.

So, I'm optimisitic that our recruiting will still get a nice bump with Moorhead if he can indeed recruit that side of the ball and maintain the defensive dominance.

[Maroonthirteen]

Actually, Cross is correct. The NCAA has rules that it enforces at different levels all the time. USC got much worse for not nearly as much. OM should have gotten much worse than USC. If I was USC, I'd have my legal team preparing a case against he NCAA right now. It isn't fair that OM did much worse and got so much less.

But his point was the blue bloods get away with murder but poor ole little missy got drug around by the NCAA for years unfairly. If anything the USC and OM comparison kills his argument.

[TrapGame]

I may be naive- but Dan's lack of recruiting was a big factor in that too.

We've mostly cleaned out the state on the defensive side and even have some players that Ole Miss offered money too- like Leo Lewis. It's the offensive side of the ball- the former country club side- where we were consistently getting beat.

So, I'm optimisitic that our recruiting will still get a nice bump with Moorhead if he can indeed recruit that side of the ball and maintain the defensive dominance.

I hope you're right Todd.

[MSUDAWGFAN]

But his point was the blue bloods get away with murder but poor ole little missy got drug around by the NCAA for years unfairly. If anything the USC and OM comparison kills his argument.
Yeah, I didn't hear it, but I was thinking it was selective enforcement by the NCAA. If his argument was blue bloods getting away, you are correct. Either way, I'd be taking the NCAA to court of I was USC.

[PMDawg]

Who cares? They cheated SMU style and got away with a slap on the wrist. Why should they be humble? Why should they stop?

[Commercecomet24]

Here?s what?s gonna hurt this worse than NCAA sanctions. They recorded recruits and have lawsuits against Mississippi teenagers. They?ve pissed of a lot of hs coaches and recruits in state are wary of them. It?s gonna take awhile for that to go away.

[ShotgunDawg]

Here?s what?s gonna hurt this worse than NCAA sanctions. They recorded recruits and have lawsuits against Mississippi teenagers. They?ve pissed of a lot of hs coaches and recruits in state are wary of them. It?s gonna take awhile for that to go away.

and yet 2 4 star recruits this week have shown they don’t care.

[Commercecomet24]

and yet 2 4 star recruits this week have shown they don?t care.

Yes ones from California and the other ones going mlb. Did you not read where I said instate recruits and coaches?

[WSOPdawg]

Also....21 violations!!! 21!!!! Pardon us if we don?t give you the benefit of the doubt. You have the same coaches and same AD. Dumbass.

I dislike that dude.

I like your "chutzpah, Maroon13th, but their 21 violations of cheating led to exactly .62 scholarships lost per violation of which TCUN had already "penalized" themselves for 3 or 4 of them leaving a handful this year and next year. Cry me a 17'n river that they're gonna miss a 2nd bowl season of revenue ($8Mx2=$16M) except the SEC will assure them of recouping some of that in a few years when they come off probation.

Big whoop that they lose out on their annual trip to Birmingham, Nashville or Charlotte -- .62 scholarships per violation got them to New Orleans and they'll be back at it next year because I fully expect the NCAA pussies to cave in on the appeal and we'll see TCUN bowling next year. I was one of the hardline 35+ lost scholarship, 3-year bowl ban guys and am highly disappointed. It's very demoralizing to see that much rampant cheating and so little punishment.

[Todd4State]

I hope you're right Todd.

I hope so- there is some basis for it. If you look at the 4-5 star recruits that we have landed from the state of Mississippi it's very noticeable to me that we've done better at certain position groups- RB, DL, LB, CB, and S than others...WR, TE (not a lot of 4 star TE's from Mississippi), and OL. I didn't list QB, K, or P because our population doesn't seem to lend itself to producing a ton of those, although if you look at kicker- Bell and Logan Cooke- are some of the best the state has produced recently.

We all know who was coaching the positions that we didn't recruit as well recently and all of them are now gone.

Also- I need to mention that I do not and never do expect us to dominate the 50 mile radius around Oxford regardless of position. Yes, we'll pull a few guys from places like South Panola and even occasionally Lafayette County but I don't expect us to consistently pull players from there. At the same time I expect us to land the majority of the players in the 50 mile radius around Starkville.

In light of Jerrion Ealy- that school is very pro-Ole Miss and probably always will be. The players we get from Prep are going to be the ones that grew up State fans like Paul Lacoste which I would estimate would be 25-30% of their school population. Like South Panola we have had a few prominent players/people from there like Jake Mangum and Benedict Stricklin. But like South Panola we're typically not going to get the majority especially if they don't have a MSU connection.

Moorhead will get a pass for the moment until he builds his staff completely...but I still expect us to dominate the 2019 class overall. We should have a good season and I think once recruits see that and what he is about plus his the relationships his staff forms we should be good to go. Hud will help with that a lot as well as the recruiting machine of Peterson, Austin, etc. All I want and expect him to do right now is hold on to who we have and he has done that so far.

[Dawgface]

Who cares? They cheated SMU style and got away with a slap on the wrist. Why should they be humble? Why should they stop?

They shouldn't.

[Todd4State]

Yes ones from California and the other ones going mlb. Did you not read where I said instate recruits and coaches?

It doesn't sound like the guy from California has a lot of options either. It's absolutely amazing to me that they haven't self destructed more than they have with the players they recruit.

[Bubb Rubb]

and yet 2 4 star recruits this week have shown they don?t care.

One is from CA and is a serious, serious character problem who has been dropped by two other schools. The other is a juco, if at all.

They are doing what they do best....recruiting starzzz and trying to win the press conference. We are doing what we do best....freak out and cry about it.

[HRTFXR]

One is from CA and is a serious, serious character problem who has been dropped by two other schools. The other is a juco, if at all.

They are doing what they do best....recruiting starzzz and trying to win the press conference. We are doing what we do best....freak out and cry about it.

+100

[Spiderman]

Not with that QB. It's not hard to get someone if you give them their only real offer. The kid's Dad tweeted today. It basically stated that Mullen dropped him. No surprise there, he is a drop back guy but even if he was Cam Mark two, I don't think Mullen takes this one. He is trouble. Only a place like Ole Miss would even consider one like that. He epitomizes everything Ole Mss believes in.

If Mullen actually wanted the kid, he must not be a big off the field risk. That's one thing I can promise about Mullen when it comes to QB's.

If Mullen did drop him, that could very well be the reason.

When he took the State job,his 1st visit was to Russell. He told him, basically, "you may be commited to State, but right now I don't know you. You have to recruit me."

[Spiderman]

The university has also retained the Mississippi-based law firm of Butler Snow to join the existing legal team of Lightfoot, Franklin & White and Bond, Schoeneck & King for the appeal and other related legal services. Don Barrett of the Barrett Law Group will also join the university?s legal team.

They all going to fit in the meeting room?

Barrett, what's he gonna help with, suing the NCAA for smoking? Hey Don, you ain't getting a Holmes Co jury for this.

[Spiderman]

and yet 2 4 star recruits this week have shown they don’t care.

yep

[Todd4State]

If Mullen actually wanted the kid, he must not be a big off the field risk. That's one thing I can promise about Mullen when it comes to QB's.

If Mullen did drop him, that could very well be the reason.

When he took the State job,his 1st visit was to Russell. He told him, basically, "you may be commited to State, but right now I don't know you. You have to recruit me."

That's the million dollar question- did Dan drop him?

I can't imagine any QB not named Manning choosing Ole Miss over Dan- even though it's cool to hate on Dan. Let's see- a guy that has put multiple guys in the league and probably has produced more current starting NFL QB's than anyone else in the game right now or a guy running a high school offense?

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

So yesterday you compared OMs 5 year investigation to Alabama level 2 violation last year in which they fired the coach and didn?t sign the kids. (The Alabama coach?s 2 year show cause appeal was denied ). So You going off about how OM was unfairly investigated for years.

Then today You make a comment about State fans are on twitter implying your school is cheating to sign the QB and now a verbal from a 4star RB. How dare us State fans?????

Look ass clown, Bama self reported. Fired the coach. Didn?t sign the kids. Y?all did everything the exact opposite. AND....oh! Y?all had every school south of Canada turning you in. Did Bama?

Also....21 violations!!! 21!!!! Pardon us if we don?t give you the benefit of the doubt. You have the same coaches and same AD. Dumbass.

I dislike that dude.

I don?t know why anyone listens to Cross to Cross with Richard Head and Matt Wyatt.

[Commercecomet24]

One is from CA and is a serious, serious character problem who has been dropped by two other schools. The other is a juco, if at all.

They are doing what they do best....recruiting starzzz and trying to win the press conference. We are doing what we do best....freak out and cry about it.

You nailed it! Screw those s***birds!

[gravedigger]

and yet 2 4 star recruits this week have shown they don’t care.

I don?t think any level of punishment short of the dp would have eliminated EVERY talented kid. I just think they are attracting kids who do not want discipline.

[Commercecomet24]

I don?t think any level of punishment short of the dp would have eliminated EVERY talented kid. I just think they are attracting kids who do not want discipline.

This. And people are freaking out over a qb that has limited options and a rb who will never play football because he?s gonna be drafted by mlb.

[Bully75]

Barrett, what's he gonna help with, suing the NCAA for smoking? Hey Don, you ain't getting a Holmes Co jury for this.

Been putting up a majority of the weekly cash payroll on the plantation. He's just trying to protect his investment.

[Spiderman]

Been putting up a majority of the weekly cash payroll on the plantation. He's just trying to protect his investment.

Yep, got a little incident in his past, that would go along well with plantation mentality too. Not sure if he actually set a cross on fire, but it was something along those lines.

Of course he has repented, ala Hugh, and now "fights" for minorities. As long as they have grounds to sue tobacco or other deep pocket companies so he can get his 33%, but he will cry with them while doing so.

. He will try to bully folks, short change other lawyers with his boy Dickie Scruggs also

[Todd4State]

This. And people are freaking out over a qb that has limited options and a rb who will never play football because he?s gonna be drafted by mlb.

This. And they're going to do it until they are past repeat violator status.

[Maroonthirteen]

I don?t know why anyone listens to Cross to Cross with Richard Head and Matt Wyatt.

Because Memphis radio is Mem Grizzly and Mem Tigers basketball talk. Id rather listen to some reb and Matt talk about State and OM. This fall I started listening to Bo Bounds in too rather than Memphis talk. Bounds has a good show.