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msstate7
12-07-2017, 12:13 PM
Is he expected to go with jimbo to aTm? If not, think we ask for an interview? If we plan on staying in 3-4, he could be a good hire

Spiderman
12-07-2017, 02:02 PM
Is he expected to go with jimbo to aTm? If not, think we ask for an interview? If we plan on staying in 3-4, he could be a good hire

He was fixing to get fired if Jimbo had stayed is the word from Tallahassee

msstate7
12-07-2017, 02:19 PM
He was fixing to get fired if Jimbo had stayed is the word from Tallahassee

Not sure it was deserved. With no offensive help at all, they finished 4th in scoring defense and total defense in the acc. They were 33rd nationally in scoring defense. FSU offense 78th nationally in scoring

Prediction? Pain.
12-07-2017, 03:46 PM
Super quick googlin' result

Traditional stats say he's regressed. Per USA Today (http://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports/college/fsu/football/2017/10/31/numbers-florida-state-defense-regressing-under-charles-kelly/815580001/):


Florida State defensive coordinator Charles Kelly has been a polarizing figure since he took over the FSU defense in 2014.

It wasn't going to be easy to follow the 2013 defense no matter what happened during Kelly's tenure.

That defense held opponents to just 12.1 points per game, the lowest in the country that season, and one of four teams this decade to hold opponents to under 12.5 ppg for a season.

But Kelly's defense has doubled that mark in three of the four years -- including this season -- that he's been at the helm.

And it's not like FSU struggled on defense before the 2013 season either.

In the first three years of the Jimbo Fisher era at FSU -- 2010-2012 -- FSU finished 20th (19.8), fourth (15.1), and sixth (14.7) nationally in ppg allowed.

Compare that to 50th (25.6), ninth (17.5), 44th (25), and 48th (24.3) nationally in ppg allowed from 2014 through FSU's seven games this season.

Those numbers aren't bad.

They're average.

But average doesn't cut it at FSU.

Not when FSU has brought in four recruiting classes that have been ranked in the top 6 in that span and three in the top 4.

There have been blue chip recruits littered all over the field for the Seminoles. The 2017 unit is currently starting five former five-star recruits.

Advanced Stats (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaadef) also say that the D has regressed some on his watch, but not as much as the other stats indicate:

S&P+ Defense National Ranks:

2013 - 1st (Pruitt)
2014 - 38th
2015 - 14th
2016 - 10th
2017 - 32nd

FEI Defense National Ranks:

2013 - 1st (Pruitt)
2014 - 49th
2015 - 24th
2016 - 41th
2017 - 19th

Without thinking about it much, I guess one potential knock would be the inconsistency with all that talent. It's troublesome that even with a depth chart filled with talent that rivals Bama, Ohio State, and the other usual suspects, FSU's defenses over the past four seasons have been up and down and have only averaged national ranks in the 20s statistically.

That's all I got. Any additional or mitigating factors y'all know of, aside from FSU's train wreck of an offense this year?