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ShotgunDawg
12-06-2017, 04:28 PM
This is fascinating. I get what Yancy is trying to say, but Ole Miss has themselves in a big ole predicament.

Not that they can determine if the kids trying to transfer will be eligible next year, but, if they don't leave, they'll be stuck with quite a few players that don't want to be there.

I've never seen anything like this where a football program is relying & hoping for technicalities in order to keep their own players.

Feels like Ole Miss players are standing in front of the parole board hoping for a good decision, but, if they don't get it, they have to return to prison.
https://i.imgur.com/8LzGqNW.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQYmiDWUMAEuR5I.jpg:large

Jack Lambert
12-06-2017, 04:37 PM
If the guys want to transfer they are going to no matter they get the waiver or not. It will be pretty awkward if they stay. I think Mars knows what he is doing.

Leeshouldveflanked
12-06-2017, 04:45 PM
Translation.... $$$ will stop if you think about going somewhere else.

turkish
12-06-2017, 06:18 PM
What I've recently learned is that it's nowhere near as bad as it may seem, for those guys up there.

Liverpooldawg
12-06-2017, 06:34 PM
If the guys want to transfer they are going to no matter they get the waiver or not. It will be pretty awkward if they stay. I think Mars knows what he is doing.

They are scared to death of Mars.

Bully13
12-06-2017, 07:32 PM
This is fascinating. I get what Yancy is trying to say, but Ole Miss has themselves in a big ole predicament.

Not that they can determine if the kids trying to transfer will be eligible next year, but, if they don't leave, they'll be stuck with quite a few players that don't want to be there.

I've never seen anything like this where a football program is relying & hoping for technicalities in order to keep their own players.

Feels like Ole Miss players are standing in front of the parole board hoping for a good decision, but, if they don't get it, they have to return to prison.
https://i.imgur.com/8LzGqNW.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQYmiDWUMAEuR5I.jpg:large

is the little m getting ready to sue the big M?

Bully13
12-06-2017, 07:33 PM
the MI flight into oxfart had really got some confeds pissed as hell. this shit is hilarious.

MedDawg
12-06-2017, 07:45 PM
This is fascinating. I get what Yancy is trying to say, but Ole Miss has themselves in a big ole predicament.

Not that they can determine if the kids trying to transfer will be eligible next year, but, if they don't leave, they'll be stuck with quite a few players that don't want to be there.

I've never seen anything like this where a football program is relying & hoping for technicalities in order to keep their own players.

Feels like Ole Miss players are standing in front of the parole board hoping for a good decision, but, if they don't get it, they have to return to prison.
https://i.imgur.com/8LzGqNW.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQYmiDWUMAEuR5I.jpg:large

Yancy said that 2015 signee Van Jefferson couldn't have been lied to by OM because the stories put out by Freeze only pertained to the 2016 signing class.

When OM finally admitted to being investigated in October 2014, they gave the same false story:

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/news/ole-miss-football-ncaa-investigation-violations-hugh-freeze/nus3p1cogbwl1gtnzuq3lusva


Bill Bender @BillBender92
Published on Oct. 2, 2014

Talk about bad timing.

Ole Miss is under NCAA investigation for rules violations in multiple sports, including football, according to Yahoo Sports’ Pat Forde. The news comes just two days before GameDay will be on campus before No. 11 Ole Miss’ game against No. 3 Alabama.

HAYES: For Rebels, Bulldogs, success could be short lived

Ole Miss athletic director Ross Bjork confirmed to Yahoo Sports on Wednesday that Ole Miss "is working with the NCAA" in an ongoing investigation.

According to the report, coach Hugh Freeze is not believed to be implicated in any major violations, and that much of the inquiry dates back to actions by a previous Ole Miss staff.

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The Rebels had major infractions in football three times in school history. Ole Miss was placed on a postseason ban twice. That included a one-year ban in 1987 and a two-year ban in 1995-96. In 1959, the program was put on one-year probation.

Mutt the Hoople
12-06-2017, 07:52 PM
No doubt they'll use bounty Hunters.
http://www.davidmcelroy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/runaway-slaves-on-underground-railroad.jpg

Leroy Jenkins
12-06-2017, 08:04 PM
Harbaugh's trip down south:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cJKkwSEAjN8/VgsbDHSFBwI/AAAAAAAAJfs/Erj-3GOVk4k/s1600/Pied-Piper-Mom.gif

Bully13
12-06-2017, 08:06 PM
would be curious as to what the 1959 infraction was.

bobtail bob
12-06-2017, 08:09 PM
I hope Mars sues yancy and takes his trailer and his Dodge neon

Political Hack
12-06-2017, 08:18 PM
If he?s defending Ole Miss over this it has to be because they?re requesting that the NCAA block Mars requests for transfers. Would seem to be strange considering they just agreed with Mars that they could transfer.

codeDawg
12-06-2017, 08:25 PM
I can’t count the number of times Yancy has argued that something won’t stick, that the lawsuit will clear something up, or that UM is working “creatively” to get out of something and been dead wrong. He’s dead wrong here too.

UM is finally up against a real lawyer and a real powerhouse athletic and academic school is making them their bitches.

Bully13
12-06-2017, 08:39 PM
If he?s defending Ole Miss over this it has to be because they?re requesting that the NCAA block Mars requests for transfers. Would seem to be strange considering they just agreed with Mars that they could transfer.

exactly. this ship has sailed. the MI jet into tsun airport is a good reference.

MedDawg
12-06-2017, 08:49 PM
would be curious as to what the 1959 infraction was.

Believe it or not, it was for adopting a HS football star to get him to go to OM. I believe the player was Lance Allworth, who went to OM, got married, was kicked off the team by Vaught, and went on to star for Arkansas.

Here's the 1959 NCAA report:

https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/search/miCaseView/report?id=101698

TXDawg
12-06-2017, 08:52 PM
I think what they’re attempting to fight is not the transfers themselves, but the ide that the NCAA will grant transfers without requiring the player to sit a year.

UMiss has granted unconditional transfers, but they can’t waive the “sit a year” penalty. That’s up to the NCAA and that’s what Mars is working on.

Bully13
12-06-2017, 09:00 PM
Believe it or not, it was for adopting a HS football star to get him to go to OM. I believe the player was Lance Allworth, who went to OM, got married, was kicked off the team by Vaught, and went on to star for Arkansas.

Here's the 1959 NCAA report:

https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/search/miCaseView/report?id=101698

Lance Allworth is a name that rings a bell to me. I think he was a NFL wide receiver. damned good one at that.

BrunswickDawg
12-06-2017, 09:07 PM
would be curious as to what the 1959 infraction was.

Lance Allworth - he was a helluva receiver for the Chargers. Held the record for 1000 yard receiving seasons in a row (7), until Rice broke it. Tied with Megatron with most career 200 yard games. Chargers retired his number.

Commercecomet24
12-06-2017, 09:15 PM
Believe it or not, it was for adopting a HS football star to get him to go to OM. I believe the player was Lance Allworth, who went to OM, got married, was kicked off the team by Vaught, and went on to star for Arkansas.

Here's the 1959 NCAA report:

https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/search/miCaseView/report?id=101698

Their playbook hasn?t changed much over the years. Geez

Commercecomet24
12-06-2017, 09:16 PM
Lance Allworth - he was a helluva receiver for the Chargers. Held the record for 1000 yard receiving seasons in a row (7), until Rice broke it. Tied with Megatron with most career 200 yard games. Chargers retired his number.

His nickname was Bambi cause he was fast and graceful as a deer.

Todd4State
12-06-2017, 09:22 PM
If he?s defending Ole Miss over this it has to be because they?re requesting that the NCAA block Mars requests for transfers. Would seem to be strange considering they just agreed with Mars that they could transfer.

My guess is they didn't realize how bad it was going to be. They probably just figured it would be Shea and Jefferson and then the 8 others that Garrett mentioned a week or so ago. Now they are losing those guys plus one of their top corners in Jones and probably Greg Little among others.

If these transfers follow through it's almost like the NCAA passively aggressively put them on probation by allowing mass transfers and then just hit them light on scholarhip reductions.

Todd4State
12-06-2017, 09:24 PM
Believe it or not, it was for adopting a HS football star to get him to go to OM. I believe the player was Lance Allworth, who went to OM, got married, was kicked off the team by Vaught, and went on to star for Arkansas.

Here's the 1959 NCAA report:

https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/search/miCaseView/report?id=101698

I wonder what was that movie was going to be called?**

I had no idea Alworth ever went to Ole Miss.

And it just goes to show what my Grandfather told me- they've been cheating forever.

Percho
12-06-2017, 09:32 PM
Because the University of Mississippi would not allow married students on the football team (Alworth had married while he was still in high school), Alworth chose UA, where he played for Frank Broyles. Alworth starred as a running back and led the nation?s college players in punt return yardage in 1960 and 1961. A marketing major, he was named an Academic All-American in 1961.


WHEREAS, the University'
s representative in this case, an alumnus, apparently did not provide
any assistance to the prospective student-athlete until after he (the alumnus) had been legally
established as the prospective student-athlete's guardian, the guardianship decree being granted
December 24, 1957, following conclusion of the prospect's senior football season;



WHEREAS, the financial assistance awarded by the university subsequently was cancelled
because the young man became married during the summer of l958, thus violating one of the
conditions of the university's award;

Bully13
12-06-2017, 09:40 PM
WAOM began with Lance Allworth

msbulldog
12-07-2017, 07:10 AM
Lance Allworth is a name that rings a bell to me. I think he was a NFL wide receiver. damned good one at that.

Damn ya'll are awful young or I am awful old Lance Allworth was tremendous Hall of Famer.

Mimi's Babies
12-07-2017, 07:28 AM
Translation.... $$$ will stop if you think about going somewhere else.

Wonder how much the sanctions bonus is to stay at OM?

Mimi's Babies
12-07-2017, 07:31 AM
They are scared to death of Mars.

Ever wonder just how much Mars knows?

msstatelp1
12-07-2017, 07:48 AM
That?s up to the NCAA and that?s what Mars is working on.

Mars should just threaten to sue the NCAA. The NCAA will cave and grant waivers to people that didn't even request them. Threatening to sue seems to have worked for OM.

basedog
12-07-2017, 08:39 AM
I wonder what was that movie was going to be called?**

I had no idea Alworth ever went to Ole Miss.

And it just goes to show what my Grandfather told me- they've been cheating forever.

He never went to OM, he wanted to but he had to get married and Vaught had a rule of no married players.

BrunswickDawg
12-07-2017, 08:59 AM
Damn ya'll are awful young or I am awful old Lance Allworth was tremendous Hall of Famer.

LOL - Allworth retired before I was born. I remember him from NFL Films.

Spiderman
12-07-2017, 09:18 AM
He never went to OM, he wanted to but he had to get married and Vaught had a rule of no married players.

Correct, he was from Brookhaven I believe and was married. Vaught had a rule against it. So he went to Ark and the rest is history.

Had the old crook known how good he was, he would have taken him anyway.

Vaught wasn't a genius, he went out and basically gave a scholarship to the QB on almost every good team. They were usually the best athletes, so when he got them, if it didn't work out at QB, he would switch them somewhere else.

He wouldn't be worth a damn in today's scholarship restricted world.

Integration and sholly limits drove that old cheating bastard out, not "heart problems"

Bully13
12-07-2017, 09:30 AM
yep. Vaught would take the QB's and RB's and make linebackers out of them.