LSU fans thoughts on their game with us...

[CadaverDawg]

On TigerDroppings they all basically think it will be a raping. I think the closest score I saw was 48-20, which was followed by several saying no way MSU scores 20 on us.

It will be interesting to see if our fans are crazy for thinking we can play with them, or if their's are crazy for thinking it will be a route.

I think somewhere in between. About a 14 point loss

[bluelightstar]

On TigerDroppings they all basically think it will be a raping. I think the closest score I saw was 48-20, which was followed by several saying no way MSU scores 20 on us.

It will be interesting to see if our fans are crazy for thinking we can play with them, or if their's are crazy for thinking it will be a route.

I think somewhere in between. About a 14 point loss

Well, if you're them, there's no reason not to assume it'll be a beatdown. Hope I'm wrong though.

[CadaverDawg]

Well, if you're them, there's no reason not to assume it'll be a beatdown. Hope I'm wrong though.

I agree. They look at us as a weak tune up for their next big game against Florida. Can't say I blame them the way they've dominated us lately

[PassInterference]

Can't blame them for those opinions.

Before I saw the LSU-UGA slug fest, I thought we had a good shot to beat LSU. I still think we can win but it gone be tough mayne.

[Behrdawg]

1 win in 23 years. Sucks- but it's the truth

[Coach34]

We can win if we play well- and we should play well with an extra week to get ready

Cant blame them for feeling that way- but their fans are always delusional about scores. Les never wins by enough in their opinion

[angusyoung]

Lately? As in the last 2-3 decades? Yeah 9.5 is a gift from heaven. More like 29.5

[BogeyGolfer]

it will be a 10 point or less game, Vegas gets it right a lot more than they get it wrong. Also, we are just as good as UF and better than Mizzou, UK and TN. Not sure about Ark they looked pretty good last night. Bogey will be making his first trip to Starkville this year, should be a great atmosphere.

[bully99]

Hate to say it, but schools like lsu, ala, ga, fla,,etc.,look at State the same way we look at UAB , Memphis, La. Monroe. Those are games you should never lose.

[Political Hack]

I wouldn't be surprised to see complete dominance.

Something like 25-0.

[Op4isabitch]

I wouldn't be surprised to see complete dominance.

Something like 25-0.

Yeah, then they will accuse us of hiring one of their coaches!

[CadaverDawg]

Hate to say it, but schools like lsu, ala, ga, fla,,etc.,look at State the same way we look at UAB , Memphis, La. Monroe. Those are games you should never lose.

Maybe not quite THAT bad....but the way we look at Kentucky

[Esmerelda Villalobos]

We cover and not only that, we win

[smootness]

I wouldn't be surprised to see complete dominance.

Something like 25-0.

They did not come close to dominating us in either of the first two games in Starkville under Mullen. We scored 17 on them last year in BR, and their defense is not as good as it was then. If Dak starts, there's no way they shut us out.

[Todd4State]

I hate to say it, but I think we get our butts kicked again. We'll show up and play hard, but we don't match-up well anywhere with them.

[Political Hack]

They did not come close to dominating us in either of the first two games in Starkville under Mullen. We scored 17 on them last year in BR, and their defense is not as good as it was then. If Dak starts, there's no way they shut us out.

the score should've tipped you off to the sarcasm. I think it'll be a good game, but we don't have the horses to close IMO.

[Jack Lambert]

I hate to say it, but I think we get our butts kicked again. We'll show up and play hard, but we don't match-up well anywhere with them.

The only thing that scares me about them is their passing game.

[MetEdDawg]

61st in points per game
55th in rushing yards against
39th against the pass

They've played TCU, UAB, Kent State, Auburn, and UGA so they have these numbers with a decent schedule and a few patsies, but it's clearly not the same dominating LSU defense we are accustomed to.

This game sets up perfect for Dak to have success. UAB rushed for 160 yards against LSU, Auburn rushed for 213, and UGA rushed for 196. LSU isn't as physical up front and they aren't as sure of tacklers as they have been. They are weaker in the secondary too. Add to that the game being at night in Starkville and we have something to be excited about. With Dak at QB, maybe for the first time in a long time we have the ability to exploit a potential weakness in an LSU defense.

I think this game comes down to our defense. Can we get Mettenberger to make mistakes and get him off of his spot. If we can do that semi-consistently, we win this game. If Dak starts and plays the whole game, we score 20-24 points on them. Can our defense hold them at or near that? I think we can physically go toe to toe with this LSU team because we have a big and fast defense and we have a QB that can bang it in the run game. I'm really looking forward to this game.

[CadaverDawg]

In my opinion, it will all be about how we start defensively. We need to come out and set the tone with our defense. We will not win a shootout, so while scoring is important, we should be able to tell a lot by the end of the 1st quarter. We will probably have to hold them under 24 to even have a chance

[Todd4State]

61st in points per game
55th in rushing yards against
39th against the pass

They've played TCU, UAB, Kent State, Auburn, and UGA so they have these numbers with a decent schedule and a few patsies, but it's clearly not the same dominating LSU defense we are accustomed to.

This game sets up perfect for Dak to have success. UAB rushed for 160 yards against LSU, Auburn rushed for 213, and UGA rushed for 196. LSU isn't as physical up front and they aren't as sure of tacklers as they have been. They are weaker in the secondary too. Add to that the game being at night in Starkville and we have something to be excited about. With Dak at QB, maybe for the first time in a long time we have the ability to exploit a potential weakness in an LSU defense.

I think this game comes down to our defense. Can we get Mettenberger to make mistakes and get him off of his spot. If we can do that semi-consistently, we win this game. If Dak starts and plays the whole game, we score 20-24 points on them. Can our defense hold them at or near that? I think we can physically go toe to toe with this LSU team because we have a big and fast defense and we have a QB that can bang it in the run game. I'm really looking forward to this game.

I know that this isn't the popular opinion- but Dak is going to have to throw the ball a little bit better- and we're going to have to catch it better if we're going to go that route. Plus, Dak is going to have to give to our backs every once in awhile instead of running it all the time- or we're going to possibly have to start Tyler because Dak gets knocked out.

Fireproof internet suit- on.

[Will James]

TigerDroppings must think Russell is our starter.

[CadaverDawg]

I know that this isn't the popular opinion- but Dak is going to have to throw the ball a little bit better- and we're going to have to catch it better if we're going to go that route. Plus, Dak is going to have to give to our backs every once in awhile instead of running it all the time- or we're going to possibly have to start Tyler because Dak gets knocked out.

Fireproof internet suit- on.

I can agree with that

[Todd4State]

In my opinion, it will all be about how we start defensively. We need to come out and set the tone with our defense. We will not win a shootout, so while scoring is important, we should be able to tell a lot by the end of the 1st quarter. We will probably have to hold them under 24 to even have a chance

That sounds about right. And we can't turn the ball over. I remember in 2009, I sat down and Tyson threw a pick six to start the damn game.

Based on what I saw yesterday, I don't like how our corners match-up with their WR's and their o-line and Hill can move the pile pretty good. Our only hope is to put pressure on Mettenberger and hope he has a bad game to make them one dimensional.

[CadaverDawg]

TigerDroppings must think Russell is our starter.

They do. Several said we have no running game and that our backup QB was our only run threat. I can't really argue that at this point, but they definitely don't think Dak is starting

[Todd4State]

TigerDroppings must think Russell is our starter.

Dan's mind games are working.

[CadaverDawg]

That sounds about right. And we can't turn the ball over. I remember in 2009, I sat down and Tyson threw a pick six to start the damn game.

Based on what I saw yesterday, I don't like how our corners match-up with their WR's and their o-line and Hill can move the pile pretty good. Our only hope is to put pressure on Mettenberger and hope he has a bad game to make them one dimensional.

Yep. We are going to need an out of this world performance by our secondary, because we will likely have to put extras in the box to stop the run. If we can also bring heat on the pass game, maybe we can disrupt Mett and their pass game. I will be interested in seeing what Collins game plan is against them. It is truly a "pick your poison" thing with their offense this year it seems

[MetEdDawg]

I think right now he's an all around better passer than Tyler in terms of the types of throws he can make and his ability to read the defense, but if we want to maximize our offensive potential and take down a team the caliber of LSU, Dak has to tighten it up. He's missed guys in stride in the seam, he's still having issues with screens in terms of putting right where it needs to be for the WR to be in stride when they catch the ball, and he needs to put balls in the chest of guys that run curls so they can use their motion to make a move to break a tackle instead of trying to haul the pass in that's off to the side. Also needs to get rid of those 1 or 2 one hoppers he throws each game.

Overall though, it's clear he has the skill set to make all the throws. If he has an above average passing games in terms of his accuracy, we have a punchers chance. We've got a solid starting 22 that I think talent wise is as close to the top teams in the league as we've had under Mullen.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Dan's mind games are working.

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Photoshop Dan's face into this

[Political Hack]

I know that this isn't the popular opinion- but Dak is going to have to throw the ball a little bit better- and we're going to have to catch it better if we're going to go that route. Plus, Dak is going to have to give to our backs every once in awhile instead of running it all the time- or we're going to possibly have to start Tyler because Dak gets knocked out.

Fireproof internet suit- on.

agree. I don't think he's ready to win big games. I think Tyler is.

[Political Hack]

I think right now he's an all around better passer than Tyler in terms of the types of throws he can make and his ability to read the defense

If Dak was a better passer and read defenses better, he would've been the starting QB against Okie State. But he wasn't. He was the short yardage specialist.

[Pollodawg]

agree. I don't think he's ready to win big games. I think Tyler is.

That's funny because he never has.....

[War Machine Dawg]

agree. I don't think he's ready to win big games. I think Tyler is.

Based on Russell's 0 for every big game in his career?

[Will James]

Based on Russell's 0 for every big game in his career?

Not just 0-fer... But getting blasted in all of them.

[MetEdDawg]

He's won as many big games as Dak, which is ZERO. And you should know by now that Dan is senior loyal to a fault. There is no way in hell Corey Broomfield should have been playing SS last year. He was a liability, but he was a senior that contributed over his career so he let him play out of position out of loyalty.

Our OL is not and will never be equipped to block for 5 seconds while Tyler decides who he's going to throw it to. We just can't do it because we don't have the talent. Tyler has never been able to pick apart good defenses because he doesn't make decisions fast enough and he doesn't have consistent enough accuracy. Only way we get to a bowl this season is with Dak at QB because he can make defenses respect him in a way Tyler will never be able to do.

But I can't wait till we lose a close one to LSU and you use the "Tyler would have won it because he's a better passer crap". If he was as good as you think he is, he would have put up more than 3 on an OSU team that gave up 30 to WV and 35 to UT San Antonio. And for your rebuttal to me as to why Dak couldn't score at all when he came in, don't forget he had a chip shot FG missed and another drive in the red zone that ended on downs. Plus he got thrust into action in an already dire situation. Pretty obvious that he's improved quite a bit since that time and is much better equipped to run a Dan Mullen offense.

[Todd4State]

I think right now he's an all around better passer than Tyler in terms of the types of throws he can make and his ability to read the defense, but if we want to maximize our offensive potential and take down a team the caliber of LSU, Dak has to tighten it up. He's missed guys in stride in the seam, he's still having issues with screens in terms of putting right where it needs to be for the WR to be in stride when they catch the ball, and he needs to put balls in the chest of guys that run curls so they can use their motion to make a move to break a tackle instead of trying to haul the pass in that's off to the side. Also needs to get rid of those 1 or 2 one hoppers he throws each game.

Overall though, it's clear he has the skill set to make all the throws. If he has an above average passing games in terms of his accuracy, we have a punchers chance. We've got a solid starting 22 that I think talent wise is as close to the top teams in the league as we've had under Mullen.

I don't question Dak's ability and talent as a QB- but as you can tell I question his consistency.

[Todd4State]

Based on Russell's 0 for every big game in his career?

Matt Wyatt was pretty much seen in the same light as Tyler at this point in his career until his senior year when he led us on all of those comebacks. Heck, people pretty much blamed Wyatt for losing the 1997 Egg Bowl- which was totally unfair.

[preachermatt83]

if anybody thinks we are not a better offensive football team in every area of offense (passing, rushing, etc...)with Dak at qb then they are as dumb as a bag of nails

[Todd4State]

if anybody thinks we are not a better offensive football team in every area of offense (passing, rushing, etc...)with Dak at qb then they are as dumb as a bag of nails

Actually, IMO I think we are a better team using both. We should use them like Jackie used Madkin and Wyatt in 1999- or at least similarly.

[drunkernhelldawg]

Hate to say it, but schools like lsu, ala, ga, fla,,etc.,look at State the same way we look at UAB , Memphis, La. Monroe. Those are games you should never lose.

I don't think this is true. We've had years when we beat those teams. They know we can beat them. They remember getting beat by us (except Georgia, and we don't play them that often.)

[ShotgunDawg]

Personally, I am glad that LSU is viewing us the way they are. What more could we ask for than an emotionally exhausted team, on the road, and over looking us?

[Jack Lambert]

Personally, I am glad that LSU is viewing us the way they are. What more could we ask for than an emotionally exhausted team, on the road, and over looking us?

Don't confuse the way message board heros view us with the way the team and their coaches do. Don't take what you read on message boards so seriously. 99% of the posters are arm chair coaches and really don't know shit about whats going on in the film room or locker room.

[ShotgunDawg]

Don't confuse the way message board heros view us with the way the team and their coaches do. Don't take what you read on message boards so seriously. 99% of the posters are arm chair coaches and really don't know shit about whats going on in the film room or locker room.

You don't say Sherlock....

Either way it can't hurt, and while I never take message board banter as what the team is feels, don't think that LSU's players won't walk around school this week and here students telling them the same things the message boards do. Again, will it matter? Likely not, but it can't hurt.

[Jack Lambert]

You don't say Sherlock....

Either way it can't hurt, and while I never take message board banter as what the team is feels, don't think that LSU's players won't walk around school this week and here students telling them the same things the message boards do. Again, will it matter? Likely not, but it can't hurt.

I would imagine that the football players think they are a bunch of stupid arm chair clowns.

[Coach34]

I know that this isn't the popular opinion- but Dak is going to have to throw the ball a little bit better- and we're going to have to catch it better if we're going to go that route. Plus, Dak is going to have to give to our backs every once in awhile instead of running it all the time- or we're going to possibly have to start Tyler because Dak gets knocked out.

Fireproof internet suit- on.


Dak only had 5 carries vs Troy. The more he plays, the better he will be.

[ShotgunDawg]

I would imagine that the football players think they are a bunch of stupid arm chair clowns.

You could be right, but when I was 18-19 years old, I was easily influenced. Again, it can't hurt

[maroonmania]

Our OL is not and will never be equipped to block for 5 seconds while Tyler decides who he's going to throw it to. We just can't do it because we don't have the talent. Tyler has never been able to pick apart good defenses because he doesn't make decisions fast enough and he doesn't have consistent enough accuracy. Only way we get to a bowl this season is with Dak at QB because he can make defenses respect him in a way Tyler will never be able to do.



Man, what you say here is something I've been thinking for quite a while now when it comes to Tyler. Look, I don't take pushing aside a 5th year SR QB lightly, especially one who is from MS and a loyal Bulldog all the way AND from all indications is a really good guy. But, from watching Russell the past few years, I'm agreeing with what you are saying. In fact, I believe his slow decision making in the pocket is actually more of an issue than his slowness of foot. Tyler very seldom THROWS anyone open and is very hesitant with his throws. Often they are not quick enough and so when the ball is arriving to the receiver, so too is the defender and its a real issue. Tyler doesn't put much trust in his receivers and he wants to visually see a guy open BEFORE he lets go of the ball. The best QBs playing at the highest levels ANTICIPATE and know when and where the receiver is going to make his break and deliver the ball to the spot so that when the receiver turns its there waiting on him. Tyler wants to have a guy open and see it and THEN make the throw thereby allowing the DB to recover and make a play. For Dak, with some back shoulder throws and delivering the ball more quickly to a spot, if not always more accurately, he is already a little ahead of Tyler in that aspect of playing QB. And to be honest even TR is not always as accurate on throws as we like to portray him, especially on any balls outside of about a 25 yard range. I do believe Dak going forward likely gives us the best chance to win although I really hate to have to say that because of the investment of time TR has put into our program. Now for this coming Saturday it likely won't matter, based on the LSU team I've been seeing we likely lose with either QB BUT it will certainly make a huge difference with teams we are more even on talent with like Ark and OM. Heck, if Dak really comes on I am starting to think we may even have a real chance to pull the upset at SC. SC is good but they don't look to me to be AL and LSU good. Now with TA&M I'm just not sure we can put up enough points on the road even on a weak A&M defense to have a legitimate shot to pull that one off plus it will be our second LONG road trip in a row.

[blacklistedbully]

I don't think this is true. We've had years when we beat those teams. They know we can beat them. They remember getting beat by us (except Georgia, and we don't play them that often.)

We beat Georgia 2 years ago.

[drunkernhelldawg]

We beat Georgia 2 years ago.

I had forgotten. But that helps make my point. I admit the LSU series has been lopsided recently, but there has been a lot of luck involved in that. Bad officiating, bad coaching decisions, and bad luck. They know we can beat them.

[chef dixon]

Gotta be real. LSU fans probably schedule fall weddings during the MSU weekend.

[maroonmania]

Gotta be real. LSU fans probably schedule fall weddings during the MSU weekend.

In all honesty, starting to believe MSU fans should start doing the same. I'll be at the game Saturday night but I have no illusions of actually winning the game when it comes to LSU. Sometimes I think our team just sees the LSU uniforms come out for warmups and gives up.

[Drugdog]

I'm feelin wooly...don't know why..I think we will dominate ... I see us winning by 28. Shrimpers gets 100. And No I'm I am currently sober..

This was my prediction. Vs Troy. So yes I am on a roll.
I feel this will be our Breakthru game. The cards finally line up for us, the Indians are on vacation, and State wins in a close one: 28-24

[Coach34]

I'm feelin wooly...don't know why..I think we will dominate ... I see us winning by 28. Shrimpers gets 100. And No I'm I am currently sober..

This was my prediction. Vs Troy. So yes I am on a roll.
I feel this will be our Breakthru game. The cards finally line up for us, the Indians are on vacation, and State wins in a close one: 28-24

wtf is "Shrimpers"?

[Drugdog]

Damn spell check, was supposed to be Shumpert.

[Coach34]

Damn spell check, was supposed to be Shumpert.


Gonna be hard for Shump to go for 100 on the 2-3 carries he will get

[SignalToNoise]

I'm feelin wooly...don't know why..I think we will dominate ... I see us winning by 28. Shrimpers gets 100. And No I'm I am currently sober..

This was my prediction. Vs Troy. So yes I am on a roll.
I feel this will be our Breakthru game. The cards finally line up for us, the Indians are on vacation, and State wins in a close one: 28-24

So we win by 28 or we win a close one 28-24?

[AROB44]

I have to agree with you, Todd. I just don't see us being able to hang with them. The looked pretty impressive to me even though they lost to Ga.

[DawgInMemphis]

Damn spell check, was supposed to be Shumpert.

Well, I think it's Shrimpers from now on. Boiled shrimp, fried shrimp, shrimp & potatoes...

[RState]

I'm feeling good about it. They're gonna sleep on us.

[Op4isabitch]

wtf is "Shrimpers"?

Code for a guy who likes a woman with an enlarged clit. **

[Coach34]

I have to agree with you, Todd. I just don't see us being able to hang with them. The looked pretty impressive to me even though they lost to Ga.

What was impressive?

TCU scoring 27 on them?
UAB scoring 17 1st half points?
Auburn rushing for over 200 against them?
Auburn scoring 21 on them once it stopped pouring?
Georgia scoring 44 with 500 yards of offense?

They can score- but their D is nothing like it usually is

[HancockCountyDog]

What was impressive?

TCU scoring 27 on them?
UAB scoring 17 1st half points?
Auburn rushing for over 200 against them?
Auburn scoring 21 on them once it stopped pouring?
Georgia scoring 44 with 500 yards of offense?

They can score- but their D is nothing like it usually is

Totally agree, if we are actually dumb enough to start TR and he can't move the ball against this LSU defense, then I hope Dan will stop this BS.

Personally i still think that Dak starts and that Mullen is just playing games on Miles.

[cheewgumm]

I agree with this...use them both.

Though I don't like the comparison to Madkin and Wyatt...semantics.

No offense to Wyatt, but he wasn't nearly as good as Russell, or Dak. Madkin probably wasn't talent wise, though he could throw pretty welll, and was a winner.

I don't think we've ever had this much talent at QB.


Actually, IMO I think we are a better team using both. We should use them like Jackie used Madkin and Wyatt in 1999- or at least similarly.

[Coach 57]

Honestly I think Tyler can have some success against LSU this week. I feel like he will play and when in he actually might play well. Dak will have his chances (more than he usually does when Tyler is healthy). Guys we can beat this team! The one thing I took away from last weekend in our conference is that Bama isn't the best team in our conference. UGA is! LSU's defense isn't really that good. The reason? They lack a true pass rush as well as Bama. I think we actually have a better front 7 than (wait for it) both of them. We are going to get into Mett's face.

[Political Hack]

Tyler gets hit a lot but got sacked rarely. We threw the ball a lot last year and didn't give up a ton of sacks even though we had a young, inexperienced line. Tyler holds the ball until the last second, and for whatever reason the message board heroes out there have decided that it's "too long."

We threw the ball around 420 times and gave up 19 sacks in 13 games. We held the ball "too long" 19 times, or about 4.5% of passes.

[PMDawg]

Honestly I think Tyler can have some success against LSU this week. I feel like he will play and when in he actually might play well. Dak will have his chances (more than he usually does when Tyler is healthy). Guys we can beat this team! The one thing I took away from last weekend in our conference is that Bama isn't the best team in our conference. UGA is! LSU's defense isn't really that good. The reason? They lack a true pass rush as well as Bama. I think we actually have a better front 7 than (wait for it) both of them. We are going to get into Mett's face.

i almost agree with you. I think our front 7 is better than LSU's. Maybe Bama's too. But, I think LSU has the best OL we will see this year. Conversely, our OL is way worse than LSU's. So I'm not sure our front 7 being better than theirs is quite the advantage that it should be.

[PMDawg]

Tyler gets hit a lot but got sacked rarely. We threw the ball a lot last year and didn't give up a ton of sacks even though we had a young, inexperienced line. Tyler holds the ball until the last second, and for whatever reason the message board heroes out there have decided that it's "too long."

We threw the ball around 420 times and gave up 19 sacks in 13 games. We held the ball "too long" 19 times, or about 4.5% of passes.

what about incompletions and interceptions? You totally ignore those? There were plenty of opportunities to extend drives and/or score points that were missed b/c Tyler held the ball "too long". Of course, there were a lot of plays that were only possible because he held the ball until the last second. I can see both sides.

[Political Hack]

what about incompletions and interceptions? You totally ignore those? There were plenty of opportunities to extend drives and/or score points that were missed b/c Tyler held the ball "too long". Of course, there were a lot of plays that were only possible because he held the ball until the last second. I can see both sides.

incompletions caused by him being hit could arguably be factored in, but I'm not going back and watching 420 pass plays to add those up. Ultimately though, holding on the ball too long (at least to me ) means that he didn't get rid of it.

[PMDawg]

incompletions caused by him being hit could arguably be factored in, but I'm not going back and watching 420 pass plays to add those up. Ultimately though, holding on the ball too long (at least to me ) means that he didn't get rid of it.

all I'm saying is you can't say he held the ball too long "19" times.

[Political Hack]

all I'm saying is you can't say he held the ball too long "19" times.

I see what you're saying. I'm just saying there's no easy way to measure it and that's the most compelling way to do it. You could also argue that just because he's sacked doesn't mean that he held the ball too long. Could've tripped over the center's feet, got hit before he hit the 3rd step in a 3 step drop, etc...

The bottom line to me is that we only got sacked 19 times last year and didn't throw a ton of interceptions. To me, that's pretty damn efficient from the QB spot... more efficient than any other QB in our esteemed QB history in fact.

The obvious issue with Tyler, in my opinion, is that he has a tendency to stair down WRs waiting for them to break open. It's not that he waits too long... it's that people know where he's going with the ball well before he throws it. I didn't see that in the one drive against Okie State before he took that hit while sliding, and I'd like to see him a little more before writing him off as a "bad fit" for our offense.

I know that's not a popular opinion as the backup QB at Mississippi State is always the best QB, but that's my take on the situation.

[maroonmania]

incompletions caused by him being hit could arguably be factored in, but I'm not going back and watching 420 pass plays to add those up. Ultimately though, holding on the ball too long (at least to me ) means that he didn't get rid of it.

For me its more about Tyler often not delivering the ball "on time" than it is he held the ball "too long".

[Coach 57]

I'm not starting this debate again. But I could see Hack being right on THIS game, not sure about Vs Bsma or UM though. It will take a dual threat type of QB to beat those teams. But against LSU, Tyler is going to be needed.