Basketball vs Dayton

[msstate7]

Peters will be back. Very interested in what we do with him. Surely Carter continues to start, right?

Big game for our team. Make it if you can

[HoopsDawg]

I really hate to bench Nick, but I think you have to start Peters, Carters, Q, Holman, and Ado.

I think Peters coming back will really cut into Eli's minutes.

[Dawg61]

No way Howland starts Peters coming off 3 game suspension. I doubt he plays him more than 20 minutes. Carter bout to go off again. Getcha 40 Tyson and I might start thinking we got a little Steph Curry at Davidson version waking up.

[msstate7]

Get peters in the game

[BayouDawg]

Settling for lazy jump shots. Attack the damn rim. I don?t know why our guys refuse to do that so often

[Dawg61]

Sloppy start for both teams, Dayton has 5 turnovers already and are still ahead 6-5. Our basketball following is pathetic. If this was a mid-week baseball game vs Central Arkansas we'd have a lineup sheet up and this thread would be 3 pages already. We need some diehard basketball fans. Pick your application up at the Hump.

[BayouDawg]

I love Ado and he still has an extremely high ceiling

[msstate7]

I hate X shooting a 3 the first time he touches the ball every game

[chef dixon]

Dayton sucks

[msstate7]

That is what I want from you, x

[BayouDawg]

X needs to attack more he?s so athletic when he?s driving the paint. His jump shot leaves a lot to be desired though

[BayouDawg]

Just as I brag on X he gets rejected by the rim. Sigh

[BayouDawg]

We?ve gotten a lot better at attacking the zone

[msstate7]

Another x 3 ugh

[BayouDawg]

Gotta contest that shot X!

[chef dixon]

We still can't shoot. Last game was an anomaly for 1 player

[Dawg61]

X is our gangsta, he do what he wants

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[BayouDawg]

Lil spoon is what I expect a 5* frosh to look like

[BayouDawg]

Herard is still struggling

[RougeDawg]

Very low energy tonight.

[BayouDawg]

X is our gangsta, he do what he wants

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Lol he?s our slater, the original gangsta

[BayouDawg]

Move the students back to the front row and I bet attendence increases.

[chef dixon]

Just abysmal shooting

[BayouDawg]

I don?t like us switching in every ball screen. They?re getting big time mismatches

[msstate7]

Take it to the basket

[BayouDawg]

Attack the zone with penetration peters! Lazy ass jump shots

[Cooterpoot]

It?s hard to watch this team at times. It?s like there?s a wall at the 3pt line and we can?t shoot over it.

[msstate7]

These 3s are pathetic. We cannot shoot... drive

[BayouDawg]

Keep getting it inside!!

[civildawg]

We just keep jacking up threes

[Mjoelner34]

Move the students back to the front row and I bet attendence increases.

Start playing basketball instead of street ball and shooting 3 points 90% of the trips down will do it too.

[Liverpooldawg]

Move the students back to the front row and I bet attendence increases.

They do have front row seats, just behind the basket. In their defense tonight, this is Finals Week.

[Dawg61]

Butch Jones our shooting coach with all these bricks??

[chef dixon]

Its just something about our execution that makes it hard to get excited about this team. I think we finally have talent now to still win these kind of games but the type of play is the same

[MaroonFlounder]

Missed threes. Looks like we will have a lot of them tonight. Dayton in Carter’s face. Determined not to let him beat them

[HoopsDawg]

We are getting wide open looks. Just can't knock them down.

[chef dixon]

Do they really need a camera on Cohen's face?

[Dawg61]

The problem with the attendance is the same as it's always been. All of the lower seats are bought by season ticket holders that live too far away to come to OOC games. We sell tickets but we don't have bodies in the Hump. We need skyboxes for basketball and all the season ticket holders can have them and when they don't attend games it won't be so empty in the Hump. Let general attendance and students have all the seats. Make the skyboxes stupid nice with free food and drink and servers bringing food/drink.

[Coach007]

3

[chef dixon]

Q is transition is either a train wreck or a lay up. You never know which one you'll get.

[msstate7]

Come on peters

[Dawg61]

That was a pretty stroke from Holman

[chef dixon]

One thing I can say for this team, we are much better on the glass and we don't foul as much as we used to.

[msstate7]

Good grief, peters

[Eric Nies Grind Time]

Well...very good defensive first half at least.

[BayouDawg]

If peters doesn?t get his head straight he can kiss any NBA aspirations goodbye. He?s not talented enough to overcome half assery

[Dawg61]

Come on peters

He's staying 4 years and there's nothing wrong with that. We shouldn't push him out the door or try to force him to be a lottery pick when he ain't ready to be one. He'll get there eventually and we'll benefit greatly from being patient with him. It's really not that easy to be a top 15 draft pick.

[BayouDawg]

The defense is better this year. Our offensive philosophy concerns me. At times it looks like we have improved. Our ball movement is just so bad.

[Dawg61]

Peters ain't trying to piss off his teammates anymore than they already are with him for whatever he did. He's siting back and letting everyone else take over. He'll be his normal self in a couple games. I understand why he's being passive right now.

[CovertDawg]

Lamar being out for 3 games was the best thing to ever happen to this team. Forced Tyson to be aggressive and realize he can score in bunches at this level.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Sloppy start for both teams, Dayton has 5 turnovers already and are still ahead 6-5. Our basketball following is pathetic. If this was a mid-week baseball game vs Central Arkansas we'd have a lineup sheet up and this thread would be 3 pages already. We need some diehard basketball fans. Pick your application up at the Hump.

I dont blame people for not being as excited. Its time for us to show up or sit down and shut up with basketball. We are improved from the last 2 years it has shown already. But people are still gonna wait to see what we do till SEC play to buy in

[Dawg61]

I dont blame people for not being as excited. Its time for us to show up or sit down and shut up with basketball. We are improved from the last 2 years it has shown already. But people are still gonna wait to see what we do till SEC play to buy in

I don't blame season ticket holders that live far away from not showing up. I also believe we can have them not show up and still have 6k+ at these games. We need to cater to the local residents and students and we won't have attendance problems.

[RocketDawg]

Nick W. can jump with the best of them.

[BayouDawg]

Ado looking like herard with the butter fingers

[msstate7]

Letting em back in it. So sick of these extended periods of garbage play we put there pretty much every game

[HoopsDawg]

So careless with the ball. Damn.

[chef dixon]

We are playing terrible

[BayouDawg]

Letting em back in it. So sick of these extended periods of garbage play we put there pretty much every game
And it always starts with no ball movement. We have too many ball stoppers and not enough ball movers in game right now.

[MCsMGs]

I don't blame season ticket holders that live far away from not showing up. I also believe we can have them not show up and still have 6k+ at these games. We need to cater to the local residents and students and we won't have attendance problems.

Y'all do realize that they have been inviting fans sitting in the upper deck to move to any open seat in the lower level about 5minutes into the game. This is a great time to go to the games because you can get great seats pretty easy.

[LC Dawg]

The easy schedule is helping us out but it is definitely for the best with as many injuries as we?ve had and Peters?s suspension. We?ve played with a lot of different lineups. Hopefully something gels soon. We obviously have talent but we are sloppy as hell. The scoring droughts in games is real concerning. We have to find someone who can consistently shoot us out of these before they get too long.

[msstate7]

Tighten up, dawgs

[BayouDawg]

That was impressive pick and roll defense**

[chef dixon]

How many times do we pass to people as if there isn't an opposing player in the way?

[BayouDawg]

We were most effective when we attacked the rim. We got lucky with 2 straight 3s going down. We still need to find an offensive identity. It should be a drive and kick identity.

[RougeDawg]

Team looking like RR?s garbage teams last 5 minutes.

[BayouDawg]

How many times do we pass to people as if there isn't an opposing player in the way?
Every freakin entry pass. Need a lot of practice on those.

[Coach007]

This team lacks the killer instinct. Decent team that can make noise, but no swag.

[BayouDawg]

Peters is Gary Ervin 2.0

[Coach007]

Shot seletion. My lord

[msstate7]

X thinks he is Larry bird

[BayouDawg]

Peters needs to sit the rest of the game. Lazy

[Coach007]

Rotate please.

[HoopsDawg]

Interior defense is trash with X at the 4 instead of Holman. Izzo would be freaking out on his team if they played like this.

[chef dixon]

Our big men are non existent

[msstate7]

X meet bench

[chef dixon]

This zone is confusing the shit out of us

[BayouDawg]

Somebody needs to step on the defensive end and bring some energy.

[Dawg61]

Y'all do realize that they have been inviting fans sitting in the upper deck to move to any open seat in the lower level about 5minutes into the game. This is a great time to go to the games because you can get great seats pretty easy.

They need to section off the entire upper half till SEC play. We don't have enough people at these games to even fill the lower half. There's zero reason to have the upper area even open.

[BayouDawg]

Lil spoon is gonna be a stud

[BayouDawg]

Good job Ado bringin the windex

[Dawg61]

X meet bench

Cracks me up how much you dislike X. Holman frustrated me like that last year. I like X just cause he's so gangsta and he jumps out the roof.

[BayouDawg]

Jump stop carter!

[LC Dawg]

Nice job by Ado on that rebound and putback.

[HoopsDawg]

Carter with a really poor floor game tonight. A lot of bad decisions and careless turnovers.

[BayouDawg]

I?m getting the sense that Peters is becoming a locker room cancer. I hope I?m wrong

[HoopsDawg]

Cracks me up how much you dislike X. Holman frustrated me like that last year. I like X just cause he's so gangsta and he jumps out the roof.

X is a talented athlete. The trouble with him is he doesn't really fit on our team b/c he doesn't shoot well enough to play the 3 and he doesn't defend the post well enough to play the 4.

[BulldogBacker]

Nice job by Ado on that rebound and putback.

...now and then?

[Dawg61]

Carter with a really poor floor game tonight. A lot of bad decisions and careless turnovers.

He's nervous. The spotlight is on him after scoring 35 and he's struggling with that right now. He does have 14 easy points though. He can rack up points in a hurry.

[msstate7]

Cracks me up how much you dislike X. Holman frustrated me like that last year. I like X just cause he's so gangsta and he jumps out the roof.

I do not dislike X. I love X as a slasher/driver/garbage man. I hate X thinking he is JJ reddick

[BayouDawg]

53-46 dawgs 6:57 2nd half

[LC Dawg]

...now and then?
53-46 Dawgs 6:57 to play.

[Dawg61]

MSU 53 UD 46, we have choked a 21 point lead with sloppy 2nd half play

[Dawg61]

Peters hasn't driven to score or pass once this entire game

[RougeDawg]

Why are we raining 3?s when we had a 21 point lead?

[BayouDawg]

I love Howland but he has not blown me away with his offensive coaching ability

[chef dixon]

We are really about to blow a 21 point lead

[msstate7]

Howland does as good a job with our offense as sirmon did with our defense last season.

[Irondawg]

We are going to shoot ourselves to a loss because all we want to do is shoot 3?s and we are building a house with all the bricks we are laying

[chef dixon]

Howland has NO answer their defense

[RougeDawg]

Look extremely slow tonight and we are telegraphing our passes. Not a good combo.

[Irondawg]

Q just had a wide open 3 ft shot in the lane and passed it up to kick out for a 3. I have no idea what we are doing

[BayouDawg]

Howland does as good a job with our offense as sirmon did with our defense last season.
It?s like we don?t have a scheme at all

[CJDAWG85]

We need to be attacking the rim.

[BayouDawg]

Excellent box out there

[LC Dawg]

56-52 State 3:25 left.

[BayouDawg]

We deserve to lose this game. Just a completely lazy effort.

[Liverpooldawg]

We are not a very good basketball team. Hopefully they get better but I just don't see it at the moment.

[msstate7]

Excellent box out there

No, keep shooting 3s. We good at it

[MaroonFlounder]

This one might be slipping away.

[Dawg61]

Howland still being too nice to everyone. What the hell did UCLA do to him when they fired him?? Calipari would be going absolutely nuts on his team right now. Howland is clapping his hands and being a cheerleader.

[BayouDawg]

We are not a very good basketball team. Hopefully they get better but I just don't see it at the moment.

We?ve got talent but it?s like we have no strategy at all. They?re just out there wingin it

[CJDAWG85]

No one knows their roll on the floor. Everyone tries to be Kobe. Lots of talent, but need to play as a team.

[HoopsDawg]

Looking back, we played our best with Aric at the 5 and X at the 4 bc Ado was in foul trouble. We haven't played that lineup in the 2nd half.

[BayouDawg]

Q needs to be a leader. I?m not seein it

[Dawg61]

Just noticed Eli Wright hasn't played at all tonight. We've got some chemistry issues I think.

[BayouDawg]

All we have is carter shooting 3s

[Liverpooldawg]

We?ve got talent but it?s like we have no strategy at all. They?re just out there wingin it

Team was the key word in my post.

[MetEdDawg]

This team can’t hit the three consistently enough and can’t penetrate the rim against a zone. Our bigs have to do a better job of moving without the ball in a zone too.

[msstate7]

Good shot, but just jacking up 3s. Out of a TO, there was nothing set up. Howland is not good at teaching offense

[chef dixon]

Unbelievable that Howland has nothing for this zone they are running

[Mjoelner34]

All we have is carter making 3s

fify

The problem is, we have other guys shooting them.

[BayouDawg]

Just noticed Eli Wright hasn't played at all tonight. We've got some chemistry issues I think.

Yep him and peters both have 3 game suspensions. They were either fighting or pissed hot. I?m hoping it?s just a class work issue though

[msstate7]

That was setup during the TO. Howland sucks y?all

[Irondawg]

I can?t wait to go back and see how many 3?s we jacked up the second half compared to 2pt shots

[Irondawg]

Nice possession guys. We are not good at all

[LC Dawg]

24 turnovers

[Liverpooldawg]

Second game I have seen. I was there Thursday. This is who we are. If things don't change it's going to be another long year.

[Dawg61]

Dayton only has 5 fouls this half. That tells the whole story on how you choke a 21 point lead.

[Irondawg]

I?m done with Howland. I?ve watched enough this year to simply believe he doesn?t give a crap anymore and is just collecting s check

[civildawg]

This game is indefensible for howland

[BayouDawg]

Howland getting out coached by Anthony 17n grant. This is why people don?t show for the games

[BayouDawg]

They want it more

[Irondawg]

Excellent blocking out when you HAD to have the ball

[Dawg61]

OMG Q saves us AGAIN!!!!

[BayouDawg]

Westherspoon makin me eat some delicious crow!

[Red Sox Dawg]

We are lucky

[Cooterpoot]

Q needs to be a leader. I?m not seein it

?

[LC Dawg]

Well I?ll be damned!

[preachermatt83]

Boom Q!!!

[Mutt the Hoople]

Just shows our NATURAL SUPERIORITY!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Irondawg]

Well Q bailed us out again with a heroic last minute shot. But in a game where it should have been totally unnecessary

[msstate7]

Unbelievable. Howland, you need to watch some YouTube vids on attacking a zone.

Thanks for bailing us out, q

[MaroonFlounder]

Ice water in the veins

[RougeDawg]

Pure luck with that one.

[Eric Nies Grind Time]

They want it more

Good win

[chef dixon]

That was pure garbage of a game

[RocketDawg]

Usually when you see that happen it's the other team that's doing it. Can't believe we pulled it out after the big collapse. Too close for comfort.

[Maroonthirteen]

Wow. That was ugly but we survived. Nice resume builder for the NCAA’s Ha!

[HoopsDawg]

Looking back, we played our best with Aric at the 5 and X at the 4 bc Ado was in foul trouble. We haven't played that lineup in the 2nd half.

[trob115]

Poor coaching down the stretch.

[BayouDawg]

We found a way to win but I?m completely pissed at our offensive play! We have no plan whatsoever. Get it together Howland!

[msstate7]

Looking back, we played our best with Aric at the 5 and X at the 4 bc Ado was in foul trouble. We haven't played that lineup in the 2nd half.

We need datcher

[CJDAWG85]

Most important thing is getting the win to go to 7-0, but damn we have got to clean up the sloppiness.

[Dawg61]

7-0 is 7-0 so I'll take it but I am very disappointed to here Eli Wright has a 3 game suspension after Peters is coming off one. We miss Datcher. Herard is giving us nothing.

[parabrave]

I can?t wait to go back and see how many 3?s we jacked up the second half compared to 2pt shots

We only attempted 7 FGs in the second. 22 a FGs the entire game, Need to develop a inside game quick.

[Liverpooldawg]

Poor coaching down the stretch.

It was poor effort. They were getting every hustle play and we were just standing around watching. They turned it up, and we didn't answer.

[LC Dawg]

That is the type of play we need from Q when we are in the middle of a scoring drought. We need someone to be a leader and step up during the game and not let us blow a 21 point lead. Q is doing it at the end of games but he needs to do it the entire game.

[BayouDawg]

Good win

Very good win. We mentally checked out when went up by 21. Very fortunate to avoid a loss tonight.

[Mjoelner34]

Carter shot 60% from behind the 3 point line. The rest of the team was 3 of 18 for 16.7%. Both Weatherspoons, Peters and Stapleton were a combined 1 for 14 from beyond the arc but were 11 of 17 shooting 2pt FGs.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Robbie Faulk sums it up...... "State just fell down 20 flights of stairs and landed on their feet."

[Jack Lambert]

Who is the guy we use to have years ago Timmy Bowers? Is That his name.

[HaggardDawg]

I?ll take the win, but was that a double dribble on Q? After the steal he had two out of control dribbles then picked the ball up to reset the dribble. Just curious

[Coach007]

Great qin mentally

[MaroonFlounder]

Q is the unquestioned leader of this team.

[BayouDawg]

It was poor effort. They were getting every hustle play and we were just standing around watching. They turned it up, and we didn't answer.

It was extremely poor effort. It was poor offensive strategy too. We were doing well getting into the teeth of the zone earlier and then went full retard

[CovertDawg]

That was honestly the worst passing game by a college basketball team I have ever seen. Passes were slow when they needed to be firm.....and too fast when they needed to be soft. But a win is a win...and very good defense for 25 minutes was enough to build the lead to avoid what would have been a disastrous loss.

[BayouDawg]

I?ll take the win, but was that a double dribble on Q? After the steal he had two out of control dribbles then picked the ball up to reset the dribble. Just curious
It only counts as a dribble once you establish possession of the ball. So if you slap the ball without possessing the ball you can pick it up then start your dribble

[HoopsDawg]

That was honestly the worst passing game by a college basketball team I have ever seen. Passes were slow when they needed to be firm.....and too fast when they needed to be soft. But a win is a win...and very good defense for 25 minutes was enough to build the lead to avoid what would have been a disastrous loss.

I agree. Horrible passing and awareness. I will say Grants teams can make you look ugly if you aren't knocking down shots.

[Dawg61]

We have yet to have a full roster available for a game. Ado was hurt, Stapleton was hurt, then Peters gets suspended, then Datcher gets hurt and now Eli is suspended. Can we just have a couple games with everyone available so we can start gaining some consistency.

[mparkerfd20]

When is Howland going to coach again? Talent is winning. It dang sure isn't coaching.

[Dawg61]

When is Howland going to coach again? Talent is winning. It dang sure isn't coaching.

When he recovers from getting fired from UCLA. Still waiting on him to get over it.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Looks like our guys just won on talent today. Should have lost the game, but a win is a win. I will take 30 more of those types of wins. Howland needs to teach some offensive schemes and plays. We had terrible trouble getting the ball inside against the zone. We passed the ball slow at times. We didn't pick up the ball in transition. We didn't cover the first guy they passed too after we didn't pick up in transition. We were ice cold on threes.

[MarketingBully]

That was the most lopsided called foulings I have seen this year. Officiating dictated their comeback. Grant’s teams foul and yet there was a 7-2 foul difference favoring them for the majority of their comeback. Pitiful. Their defense was able to foul at will while they called a ton of touch fouls on us leading to the middle opening up for them to get layups and freethrows. At least we were able to overcome the refs as well and come out with a win. A win is a win and we are 7-0.

[LC Dawg]

Peters had 3 points. That kid needs to get his shit together. He obviously has talent but when you miss games for a suspension and you have to be worked back into the lineup it is detrimental to the team. And apparently Wright has the same thing going on. Staying out of trouble is part of the deal. They need to mature.

[MarketingBully]

Looks like our guys just won on talent today. Should have lost the game, but a win is a win. I will take 30 more of those types of wins. Howland needs to teach some offensive schemes and plays. We had terrible trouble getting the ball inside against the zone. We passed the ball slow at times. We didn't pick up the ball in transition. We didn't cover the first guy they passed too after we didn't pick up in transition. We were ice cold on threes.

Dayton?s traps they were able to foul at will. When Dayton ?turned up? the defense, what they were doing was fouling until the refs called it. Well the refs never called it. Hard to play an offensive scheme when the other team is able to slap, push, and do anything they want. I saw at least ten times there should have been an and 1 or shooting two on our offensive end and no foul calls to be found.

[maroonmania]

When is Howland going to coach again? Talent is winning. It dang sure isn't coaching.

Agree, our half court offense is not good and our defense isn't much better. I really thought Howland was a guy that taught hard nosed defense. I haven't seen it since he's been here.

[thf24]

The thing that is going to hurt us this year is that we still have a weak post presence. Ado is a huge boost there from last year, but that's not saying a whole lot. Ado has good hands and he doesn't hesitate like many young big men do, but he's still raw in terms of inside scoring ability. He and Datcher are really going to have to continue to make strides in the next month for us to have a chance at an NCAA bid. I think Herard is still, best case, a year away from being a consistent contributor.

[msstate7]

The thing that is going to hurt us this year is that we still have a weak post presence. Ado is a huge boost there from last year, but that's not saying a whole lot. Ado has good hands and he doesn't hesitate like many young big men do, but he's still raw in terms of inside scoring ability. He and Datcher are really going to have to continue to make strides in the next month for us to have a chance at an NCAA bid. I think Herard is still, best case, a year away from being a consistent contributor.

If he gets healthy soon, I think datcher will be our best scoring option down low

[BuckyIsAB****]

7-0 is 7-0 but Im starting to think the teams we are playing are just bad and we are slap average. Something just aint right cant put my finger on it. We are so up and down

[MCsMGs]

Agree, our half court offense is not good and our defense isn't much better. I really thought Howland was a guy that taught hard nosed defense. I haven't seen it since he's been here.

Keep in mind there have been substantial rule changes over the last couple of years designed to increase scoring which limits the ability of teams to play defense as we know and love it in collegiate basketball. The rules on verticality and hand checking in particular(which the SEC seems to embrace more than other conferences) limit defensive play and the new rule this year of resetting the shot clock to 20 after a non shooting foul really penalizes a team for playing defense as the shot clock is winding down.