Chuck is saying 4 yr probation, 2 yr bowl ban, 13 scholly's

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

Chuck saying 4 yr probation, 2 yr bowl ban, 13 scholly?s.

He?s been wrong before.

[GreenheadDawg]

If it?s 13 schollys then it is open season. Let the games begin

[ScoobaDawg]

Yea.. everyone wait on the orrical release...why would they lie now? well.. it wouldn't be the hugest surprise.

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Ole Miss has received a two-year bowl ban and multiple scholarship restrictions. Show causes for every coach. Details soon.

8:54 AM - 1 Dec 2017

[KOdawg1]

They should be thrilled. 13 schollys is light.

[parabrave]

Multiple scholarship restrictions seem more than 13.

[BeardoMSU]

I'm sure its an additional 13...

[WinningIsRelentless]

He failed to say if it was 13 schollies a year for how many years or 13 total.

[mparkerfd20]

I'm thinking this is more reality... All of this is in ADDITION to self imposed so:

3yr Bowl Ban
24 scholarships
Show Causes
4 years probation

[KOdawg1]

He failed to say if it was 13 schollies a year for how many years or 13 total.
someone said 13 over 3

[MagicDawg]

Sports equivalent of the Steinle verdict. Might as well start selling NCAA cheating licenses.

[Westdawg]

If that doesn?t mean 13 PER YEAR then it will mean the end of the NCAA and open season for recruiting

[Token Bammer]

If that doesn?t mean 13 PER YEAR then it will mean the end of the NCAA and open season for recruiting

Yep.

Also, is Luke on the list of show causes?

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

Here's what I can gather...

4 years probation
2 year bowl ban (2017 and 2018)
24 total scholly's
monetary fine
show causes for all coaches named in NOA

[RougeDawg]

For the short term this ruling is good for them. In the long term it?s horrible for them, and all the other have nots to some extent. If those asshats think they are gonna outbid the nig boys after these types of penalties, they don?t have a brain. Well, I think we?ve already established that.

[fader2103]

Something that Chuck didn't say that I have seen was vacated wins

[Dawgs87]

Gentlemen, in the article it specifically says:

"a total scholarship reduction of 13 over a period of years. That's in addition to the 11 over four years that Ole Miss self-imposed, which already meant three or four fewer scholarship players per year."

[PMDawg]

Per sources, Ole Miss received a 2-year bowl ban, lack of institutional control, head coach responsibility, 3 years probation, $179,797 penalty, 13 scholarships over 4 years (I don't know if that's additional or what), show causes for Saunders (8 years), Vaughn (5 years), Kiffin (2 years), Farrar (5 years), vacated wins, public reprimand and disassociation of all involved boosters.

[PMDawg]

If LOIC and head coach responsibility really stuck, and Freeze really skated a show cause - What the literal 17?

[KOdawg1]

Per sources, Ole Miss received a 2-year bowl ban, lack of institutional control, head coach responsibility, 3 years probation, $179,797 penalty, 13 scholarships over 4 years (I don't know if that's additional or what), show causes for Saunders (8 years), Vaughn (5 years), Kiffin (2 years), Farrar (5 years), vacated wins, public reprimand and disassociation of all involved boosters.

i know good and damn well Hugh Freeze isn't getting away untouched. that's absolutely crazy

[parabrave]

Well add in the other future self imposed scholly reduction due to we will blackmail, tape and sue new recruits. That is already hurting them more than the NCAA stuff.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Here's what I can gather...

4 years probation
2 year bowl ban (2017 and 2018)
24 total scholly's
monetary fine
show causes for all coaches named in NOA

If what was sent didnt include self imposed and it had 13 schollies and 2 year bowl ban, wouldnt that mean Bowl Ban 2017, 2018, 2019?

[Token Bammer]

Per sources, Ole Miss received a 2-year bowl ban, lack of institutional control, head coach responsibility, 3 years probation, $179,797 penalty, 13 scholarships over 4 years (I don't know if that's additional or what), show causes for Saunders (8 years), Vaughn (5 years), Kiffin (2 years), Farrar (5 years), vacated wins, public reprimand and disassociation of all involved boosters.

Lol! Freeze skates! Hahahahahahaha....the leader of it all skates. The NCAA sucks. I can't wait for them to disappear.

[MetEdDawg]

So is the 2 years in addition to the 1 self imposed?? If so that?s basically a death penalty.

[Dawgs87]

What the actual 17? This doesn't even seem remotely possible. How can the guy that brings a recruit in to talk with a booster and gets Head coach responsibility, also not get a show cause?

"Current Ole Miss assistant coaches Derrick Nix and Maurice Harris, avoided show causes, as did former Ole Miss head coach Hugh Freeze, according to sources."

[mparkerfd20]

Godfrey article has been updated:

An additional bowl-ban year (2018).
Because of that total two-year bowl ban, NCAA rules state Ole Miss players are now free to transfer elsewhere without sitting out a season.
Probation running concurrently with current probation for a total of four years.
Financial penalties.
A total scholarship reduction of 13 over a period of years. That?s in addition to the 11 over four years that Ole Miss self-imposed, which already meant three or four fewer scholarship players per year.
Every coach named in the NCAA?s investigation has received a show-cause (essentially an NCAA blackball for a period of time). That doesn?t include new head coach Matt Luke, who wasn?t named. Former assistant David Saunders? show-cause runs for eight years. Former staffer Barney Farrar faces five. - Source: Godfrey article

[Lord McBuckethead]

So.... there is that. Looks like we all should be opening our pocket books now. 24 scholarships is next to nothing over 4 years. So instead of 85 they are allowed 79 for the next 3 years? that seems easy. Might as well cheat from here on out. Wish we would have paid the money for Cam now.

[Maroonthirteen]

Lol! Freeze skates! Hahahahahahaha....the leader of it all skates. The NCAA sucks. I can't wait for them to disappear.

I agree. Freeze took a booster along to meet with a recruit. If he doesn’t get a show cause..... it is a travesty.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Well the matrix doesn't mean a single thing then.

Move on with it.

[SailingDawg]

I think the NCAA's release at 10:30 will give the whole story, which OM is avoiding at this time. Can't see Freeze not getting a show cause or not being charged with LOIC.

[maroonmania]

Well the matrix doesn't mean a single thing then.

Move on with it.

Exactly, and the so called new stipulation that the HC is responsible for whatever happens inside his program can be thrown in the trash as well.

[msstate7]

I think the NCAA's release at 10:30 will give the whole story, which OM is avoiding at this time. Can't see Freeze not getting a show cause or not being charged with LOIC.

If we know the penalties, what is the significance of LOIC?

[AROB44]

Why us everyone getting so worked up over what an OM writer says. Nobody knows anything until the NCAA makes its announcement.

[TrapGame]

They're leaving something out. This is for the sheep. They're putting the best face they can on this before it goes public. They did the same thing with the first NOA.

[BigEasyDawg]

Mark Schlabach says Freeze is getting a show cause:

Former Rebels coach Hugh Freeze, who resigned for off-field issues in July, also received a suspension and show cause from the NCAA for failure to monitor his staff, although the length of the suspension and specifics of the show cause weren't immediately known.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21629060/ole-miss-rebels-gets-two-year-bowl-ban-scholarship-reductions-ncaa

[Coach34]

Screw the cheating stuff people- a 2 year bowl ban is a stiff damn penalty. That is going to cost them recruits and some transfers also

[Dawgowar]

24 scholarships on aggregate is a body shot.

[Sacrifice]

Im sure it?s true, I figured if it was good news OM would get it out early. They got off extremely light, theyll be back in 3 or 4 years. Unreal

[Sacrifice]

The talking heads are talking about the lost bowl game money. That dont mean shit to OM, they?ll have that money replaced in no time

[Cooterpoot]

They got hit pretty hard. They’re going nuts up here this morning.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Im sure it?s true, I figured if it was good news OM would get it out early. They got off extremely light, theyll be back in 3 or 4 years. Unreal

back to what exactly?

[Liverpooldawg]

So.... there is that. Looks like we all should be opening our pocket books now. 24 scholarships is next to nothing over 4 years. So instead of 85 they are allowed 79 for the next 3 years? that seems easy. Might as well cheat from here on out. Wish we would have paid the money for Cam now.

That?s a whole class over 4 years. That?s new scholarships allowed. At the end they are down 24 total. That?s the way it worked at USC. They are my second team and they still haven?t quite recovered. UM ain?t SC, 24 total will devastate them.

[preachermatt83]

Screw the cheating stuff people- a 2 year bowl ban is a stiff damn penalty. That is going to cost them recruits and some transfers also

Yup

[WesternSkyDawg]

COI accepted their self-imposed, then said "double that and tack on some more."

Let's not give in to what to what the Land that Time Forgot does best: spin

These will hurt. And hurt some more if players transfer.

[Maroonthirteen]

I think the NCAA's release at 10:30 will give the whole story, which OM is avoiding at this time. Can't see Freeze not getting a show cause or not being charged with LOIC.

We will see by this afternoon. However, yes, it wouldn’t surprise me if CHuck and Godfrey floated out low numbers and omitted details to mislead folks.

[Liverpooldawg]

That?s a whole class over 4 years. That?s new scholarships allowed. At the end they are down 24 total. That?s the way it worked at USC. They are my second team and they still haven?t quite recovered. UM ain?t SC, 24 total will devastate them.

You throw in transfers and other attrition.....ugly

[Ari Gold]

Guys USCw Got what 30 over 3?
They are just now getting back to the USC of old. Took them basically 7 years.
24 over 4 isn't a slap on the wrist by any means it's a big blow. And they are Umiss football not USC , not even close

[Sacrifice]

back to what exactly?

Back to business as usual. Fielding a competive football team and cheating there ass off with a new coach

[BeardoMSU]

Screw the cheating stuff people- a 2 year bowl ban is a stiff damn penalty. That is going to cost them recruits and some transfers also

This^^^^

24 scholarships for that program is monumental. And when you take into account open transfers, it's crippling.

[msstate7]

Guys USCw Got what 30 over 3?
They are just now getting back to the USC of old. Took them basically 7 years.
24 over 4 isn't a slap on the wrist by any means it's a big blow. And they are Umiss football not USC , not even close

Hasn?t OM already accounted for the 11 self imposed? If so, it would just be 13 more over 4 years.

[HoopsDawg]

Yeah, but OM smartly self-imposed 11 scholarship reductions from 2015-2018. So they have basically already taken care of that penalty through roster management. 13 over the next 4 is not that bad considering how much they cheated.

[msstate7]

Yeah, but OM smartly self-imposed 11 scholarship reductions from 2015-2018. So they have basically already taken care of that penalty through roster management. 13 over the next 4 is not that bad considering how much they cheated.

This is what I was thinking.

[PMDawg]

So, OM has 18 seniors graduating. Say 7 people transfer (conservative). They are down to 60 scholarship players. They can only sign 18 this year. That keeps them at 78 next season, right? 21 JRs the next year, assume 3 leave early or transfer. So that brings them down to 60 again, 78 total again. 29 soph. So assume the other 4 come feom that class. They sign 18 again. So after 3 years, they are at 71 scholarship players. That's it. Unless around 20 transfer, this isn't really that bad for them. Smh.

[HoopsDawg]

Hasn?t OM already accounted for the 11 self imposed? If so, it would just be 13 more over 4 years.

exactly, i just posted the same thing in another thread.

[confucius say]

Hasn?t OM already accounted for the 11 self imposed? If so, it would just be 13 more over 4 years.

No. They have not. I believe the have accounted for 2-3

[Gutter Cobreh]

So Freeze gets a 1 year show cause and couple game suspension, but it only applies if he's a head coach. He can become a coordinator today and not miss a beat, if what I'm reading is correct.

Why wouldn't Ole Miss just hire him as a OC, let Matt run the show and they're back in business?

[BeardoMSU]

Ross Bjork has to be toast, right?

[msstate7]

So, OM has 18 seniors graduating. Say 7 people transfer (conservative). They are down to 60 scholarship players. They can only sign 18 this year. That keeps them at 78 next season, right? 21 JRs the next year, assume 3 leave early or transfer. So that brings them down to 60 again, 78 total again. 29 soph. So assume the other 4 come feom that class. They sign 18 again. So after 3 years, they are at 71 scholarship players. That's it. Unless around 20 transfer, this isn't really that bad for them. Smh.

According to what players transfer. They have had back-to-back poor classes. If they lose the cream of the crop, 71 players that are not very good could be terrible for them

[BayouDawg]

I?m not believing anything until the ncaa officially releases it at 10:30. These guys are going to continue to lie right to the bitter end. Chillax guys

[PMDawg]

Somehow they have 42 freshmen on their roster. I guess a lot of practice squad guys. But that will help them get through it.

[WesternSkyDawg]

Yeah, but OM smartly self-imposed 11 scholarship reductions from 2015-2018. So they have basically already taken care of that penalty through roster management. 13 over the next 4 is not that bad considering how much they cheated.

They did, and that was a smart move. But it also contributed to a general change in their trajectory and a change in their perception around college football. The collateral damage has been huge, with high school prospects not wanting anything to do with them.

They've now gone two years with no bowl, with likely multiple more years to go.

[ScoobaDawg]

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Completely, totally stunned with the Hugh Freeze penalty. Given everything else, that's it for him?

[Tbonewannabe]

So Freeze gets a 1 year show cause and couple game suspension, but it only applies if he's a head coach. He can become a coordinator today and not miss a beat, if what I'm reading is correct.

Why wouldn't Ole Miss just hire him as a OC, let Matt run the show and they're back in business?

That would probably cause the NCAA to open an Oxford location. They can keep Luke who knows how the Network operates and also saw how they were caught. I imagine they will crank it back up pretty soon. It will be interesting if they try some Flipmas bullshit this year.

[Liverpooldawg]

Elf’s
Hasn?t OM already accounted for the 11 self imposed? If so, it would just be 13 more over 4 years.

That’s still a whole class. That’s stiff, very stiff.

[Eric Nies Grind Time]

Their ceiling will be 6 wins for the next 5 or 6 seasons.

[msstate7]

exactly, i just posted the same thing in another thread.

Hopefully the NCAA accepts the 11 scholarships, but not that OM has already imposed them. This possible?

[Lord McBuckethead]

No. They have not. I believe the have accounted for 2-3

I believe they accounted for more than that, because they couldn't even get a full class the past 2 years.

[Gutter Cobreh]

That would probably cause the NCAA to open an Oxford location. They can keep Luke who knows how the Network operates and also saw how they were caught. I imagine they will crank it back up pretty soon. It will be interesting if they try some Flipmas bullshit this year.

I get that. What I don't get is how long he was affiliated in some capacity with all this nonsense, even before becoming the head coach, and he gets a minor slap on the wrist? Farrar can not be too pleased on how this has gone down now, since he's basically done and Freeze will be showing up on the sidelines somewhere very soon.

[HoopsDawg]

I believe they accounted for more than that, because they couldn't even get a full class the past 2 years.

Look at Mullen, he easily accounted for 11 lost scholarships over the past 4 years.

[Tbonewannabe]

As long as these are in addition to UM's self penalties then it is kind of bad.

[Doggie_Style]

I get that. What I don't get is how long he was affiliated in some capacity with all this nonsense, even before becoming the head coach, and he gets a minor slap on the wrist? Farrar can not be too pleased on how this has gone down now, since he's basically done and Freeze will be showing up on the sidelines somewhere very soon.

I kinda doubt that, like Schiano, Freeze is radioactive. Any attempt to hire him would result in him being 'Tennessee'd' by the student/faculty body.

[Maroonthirteen]

So, OM has 18 seniors graduating. Say 7 people transfer (conservative). They are down to 60 scholarship players. They can only sign 18 this year. That keeps them at 78 next season, right? 21 JRs the next year, assume 3 leave early or transfer. So that brings them down to 60 again, 78 total again. 29 soph. So assume the other 4 come feom that class. They sign 18 again. So after 3 years, they are at 71 scholarship players. That's it. Unless around 20 transfer, this isn't really that bad for them. Smh.

Assuming your current class numbers and NCAA penalties of 24 scholarship reduction (6 a class for 4 years)....

I calculated that they will have;
2018- 78 scholarship players
2019 - 75
2020- 64
2021- 57

[Tbonewannabe]

I get that. What I don't get is how long he was affiliated in some capacity with all this nonsense, even before becoming the head coach, and he gets a minor slap on the wrist? Farrar can not be too pleased on how this has gone down now, since he's basically done and Freeze will be showing up on the sidelines somewhere very soon.

I agree, Freeze should be done in the NCAA for orchestrating all this crap.

[Tbonewannabe]

I kinda doubt that, like Schiano, Freeze is radioactive. Any attempt to hire him would result in him being 'Tennessee'd' by the student/faculty body.

Some shitty program will be desperate enough to hire the guy who beat Bama twice.

[Gutter Cobreh]

Some shitty program will be desperate enough to hire the guy who beat Bama twice.

Yep, as of right now all he did was call a hooker. Petrino wrecked a bike with his mistress on the back of it and he's on the sidelines coaching. Someone will hire this douchebag. It may not be as an OC, but it could be as an analyst. Regardless, his coaching career continues while those he instructed get left for dead.

[thf24]

Given that the penalties were stiff but not quite nuclear and that Freeze in particular got off relatively light, I think there's at least a chance the NCAA is setting them up for a second shot in a year or two if they continue operating the way they do. Maybe something additional is already in the works.

[vv83]

Given that the penalties were stiff but not quite nuclear and that Freeze in particular got off relatively light, I think there's at least a chance the NCAA is setting them up for a second shot in a year or two if they continue operating the way they do. Maybe something additional is already in the works.

No they aren't. The NCAA is a joke as they showed with UNC and are about to again today

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

Chuck now saying 13 total. If that is true, they got of pretty easy. I know the 2 yr. bowl ban is bad, but they sure as hell didn't go by their matrix. That's for damn sure.

The question now is how exactly does the transfers work. Is it just for the Sr class in 2018 or the Jr and Sr class in 2018? If the second, that means this years So. and Jr's. That's what is confusing.

I'll be satisfied with 24, but disappointed as hell with 13. And if you remember, OM didn't sign a full class last year and will be trying to use those scholly's not used as being part of the total.

[ScoobaDawg]

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The NCAA press release will say that Hugh Freeze and Jeffery Vitter admitted that the #OleMiss (https://twitter.com/hashtag/OleMiss?src=hash) booster culture was “craziness” and “disturbingly questionable."

[PMDawg]

Chuck now saying 13 total. If that is true, they got of pretty easy. I know the 2 yr. bowl ban is bad, but they sure as hell didn't go by their matrix. That's for damn sure.

The question now is how exactly does the transfers work. Is it just for the Sr class in 2018 or the Jr and Sr class in 2018? If the second, that means this years So. and Jr's. That's what is confusing.

I'll be satisfied with 24, but disappointed as hell with 13. And if you remember, OM didn't sign a full class last year and will be trying to use those scholly's not used as being part of the total.

It honestly doesn't matter either way. ESPN is reporting 24 total, but that includes 11 from 2015 to 2018 that were self imposed. So do that math, even if it's worst case ("24"), it's only about 15 over the next 3 years. I don't even think it qualifies as a slap on the wrist at this point. 2018, 2019 and maaaaybe 2020 will be rough for them. Then, they fire Luke, get a real coach, and it's back off to the races.

The biggest saving grace in all of this is that we may get better access to the 2019 MS class, even though most would've leaned our way anyway. This is a big nothing-burger.

[BeardoMSU]

Looking like 13 total now...

[Liverpooldawg]

No. They have not. I believe the have accounted for 2-3

I think this is correct.

[BulldogBear]

Chuck now saying 13 total. If that is true, they got of pretty easy. I know the 2 yr. bowl ban is bad, but they sure as hell didn't go by their matrix. That's for damn sure.

The question now is how exactly does the transfers work. Is it just for the Sr class in 2018 or the Jr and Sr class in 2018? If the second, that means this years So. and Jr's. That's what is confusing.

I'll be satisfied with 24, but disappointed as hell with 13. And if you remember, OM didn't sign a full class last year and will be trying to use those scholly's not used as being part of the total.

13 total would be a slap on the wrist. I don't believe a word of it. If he's saying that then I'm more inclined to believe everything we're hearing is just BS. Waiting for the official word now.

[ScoobaDawg]

It's 13 total.... wow

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[ScoobaDawg]

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[MarketingBully]

What’s odd is they self imposed 11 not 10. Are you sure that isn’t a fake? It doesn’t look like it’s on any official type of paper. I am extremely skeptical when it comes to these ****ers. They lie and mislead at every turn.

[ScoobaDawg]

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Note on possible transfers at Ole Miss: All players, including upcoming seniors, will be able to transfer and be immediately eligible

[preachermatt83]

Now it looks like 13 TOTAL!!! If so that's a slap on the wrist.

[Coach34]

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Note on possible transfers at Ole Miss: All players, including upcoming seniors, will be able to transfer and be immediately eligible


floodgates have opened

[Dawgface]

Now it looks like 13 TOTAL!!! If so that's a slap on the wrist.

It reads that way to me. That's pathetic.

[preachermatt83]

2 year bowl ban is all that is bad.

[HancockCountyDog]

Looks like luke will need to be focused on recruiting his team this signing period as opposed to recruits.

How in the world they only got 2 additional scholarship reductions is beyond me.

****ing 2? Are you kidding me.

[Coach34]

Scholarship reductions is a joke- but open transfer for all players is huge and offsets that somewhat

[BeardoMSU]

Scholarship reductions is a joke- but open transfer for all players is huge and offsets that somewhat

Only if they do indeed transfer out...

[msstate7]

Scholarship reductions is a joke- but open transfer for all players is huge and offsets that somewhat

I haven?t seen that but from one person who I don?t even know who he is

[Lord McBuckethead]

. Scholarship reductions: Mississippi has reduced, and shall reduce, football grants-in-aid by
greater than 15% as outlined below:
Academic year 2015-16: Overall reduction: 1; Initial reduction: 0
Academic year 2016-17: Overall reduction: 2; Initial reduction: 3
Academic year 2017-18: Overall reduction: 6; Initial reduction: 4
Academic year 2018-19: Overall reduction: 4; Initial reduction: 3
Totals: 13 grants overall, 10 initial grants. (Self-imposed.)


Thirteen total scholarships, man I would trade 13 scholarships for AJ and Treadwell.

[Bully13]

ESPN is reporting 13 in addition to the 11 already self imposed

[BeardoMSU]

"As part of its disassociation penalties, Mississippi will publicly identify the boosters who
committed the violations in this case, the impermissible actions each booster took, and why
the actions violated NCAA legislation."

This will be interesting...

[chainedup_Dawg]

This may be unpopular but 17 it. Fire Bracky, hire a good attorney as compliance and let's roll

[HancockCountyDog]

ESPN is reporting 13 in addition to the 11 already self imposed

Big surprise, ESPN is fake news. Don't they have a protest to cover.

[Eric Nies Grind Time]

Anyone that is not a senior has to apply for a waiver but the NCAA will likely grant it.

[Sacrifice]

Its over now, they didn?t get shit. Lets build the best staff weve ever had and enjoy their 4 years of misery.

[RougeDawg]

This may be unpopular but 17 it. Fire Bracky, hire a good attorney as compliance and let's roll

I?m in and I highly suggest everyone follow suit and start a new savings account today like I did. Named it ?Mistakes Fund?.

[HoopsDawg]

This may be unpopular but 17 it. Fire Bracky, hire a good attorney as compliance and let's roll

I'm in. Hire someone from the NCAA enforcement staff. Let's start by paying Savion Smith b/c we need a corner.

[vv83]

So ESPN reporting that the 13 scholarship reductions are in addition to the self imposed and that only seniors are able to transfer without sitting out while everything I?ve seen on ED is the opposite. Does anyone know for sure?

[Liverpooldawg]

So ESPN reporting that the 13 scholarship reductions are in addition to the self imposed and that only seniors are able to transfer without sitting out while everything I?ve seen on ED is the opposite. Does anyone know for sure?

I have no idea what's right in the transfer stuff. It is only 13 schollies total. The text of the NCAA letter puts that down in black and white.

[Commercecomet24]

The oxford paper reported 13 ADDITIONAL schollies.11+13 for 24 total. Who knows but that?s what their paper said

[SailingDawg]

The oxford paper reported 13 ADDITIONAL schollies.11+13 for 24 total. Who knows but that?s what their paper said

Sun Herald said the same thing.

[msstate7]

Curious... when did these 3 outlets publish these articles? If it was before 10:30 am, then they are just going on leaks

[Commercecomet24]

Curious... when did these 3 outlets publish these articles? If it was before 10:30 am, then they are just going on leaks

The one I saw from oxford was posted on fb this afternoon I have no idea when it was published. You would think their home town paper would get it right or face their wrath lol.

[Bully13]

go to page 17ing 56. ESPN knows absolute Dick.

[ScoobaDawg]

Read the document if you don't believe it... It's 13 total

[Maroonthirteen]

In actuality, they have already served most of their punishment. They have to reduce scholarships by 4 this signing period and no Bowl next season. Then they are done with the penalties.

[Dawgs87]

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Bjork said in press conference this means they will have 81 scholarships available in next season and then back to 85 after that.