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Coach34
11-28-2017, 06:25 PM
Some chatter that we?re are going to hire a current head coach and not a coordinator. The thinking is with the team we have returning, we don?t need a guy with a possible learning curve as the head of the program.

Now then based on hearing that- I?ll throw this out simply as a guess by me:

Chad Morris as the HC
Todd Grantham staying on as DC and Assoc HC- with a big raise

Would be a Grand Slam if Cohen pulled that off.

Lumpy Chucklelips
11-28-2017, 06:27 PM
I wouldn't need my viagra for a month if he pulled that off!

RocketDawg
11-28-2017, 06:28 PM
Probably OK. But I'd lean toward Moorehead/Grantham.

Actually, might be which ever HC would keep Grantham on. That would be good for us and highly irritate Mullen, which at the moment is a very good thing.

mo7888
11-28-2017, 06:29 PM
Some chatter that we?re are going to hire a current head coach and not a coordinator. The thinking is with the team we have returning, we don?t need a guy with a possible learning curve as the head of the program.

Now then based on hearing that- I?ll throw this out simply as a guess by me:

Chad Morris as the HC
Todd Grantham staying on as DC and Assoc HC- with a big raise

Would be a Grand Slam if Cohen pulled that off.

Definitely a grand slam..

shoeless joe
11-28-2017, 06:29 PM
Would be nice. I definitely like the idea of grantham getting a raise and being kept on board.

Dawgface
11-28-2017, 06:30 PM
I would be happy. Certainly whoever we hire will be better off with Grantham on the team. Will be interesting....

BeardoMSU
11-28-2017, 06:30 PM
Holy hell, that would be a total dick drag moment by Cohen. This is exciting.


I wouldn't need my viagra for a month if he pulled that off!

Uh....

https://78.media.tumblr.com/3d5e8e7290ede50486814feeac87013d/tumblr_n7sk6dFdHI1soqybbo1_400.gif

preachermatt83
11-28-2017, 06:32 PM
Some chatter that we?re are going to hire a current head coach and not a coordinator. The thinking is with the team we have returning, we don?t need a guy with a possible learning curve as the head of the program.

Now then based on hearing that- I?ll throw this out simply as a guess by me:

Chad Morris as the HC
Todd Grantham staying on as DC and Assoc HC- with a big raise

Would be a Grand Slam if Cohen pulled that off.

U just told me grantham office was cleaned out.

preachermatt83
11-28-2017, 06:32 PM
If we hire a top notch offensive guy and hold on to grantham I would be ecstatic

Jack Lambert
11-28-2017, 06:33 PM
Some chatter that we?re are going to hire a current head coach and not a coordinator. The thinking is with the team we have returning, we don?t need a guy with a possible learning curve as the head of the program.

Now then based on hearing that- I?ll throw this out simply as a guess by me:

Chad Morris as the HC
Todd Grantham staying on as DC and Assoc HC- with a big raise

Would be a Grand Slam if Cohen pulled that off.

Not to tip where i work but several of the big cats are State guys and they said that Grantham is hanging around Starkville because he is the possible DC and Cohen might be making it part of the deal with the new HC. Also Mullen has offered him the job but allowing him time to see what State does. I don't know if they were speculating or heard something,

Coursesuper
11-28-2017, 06:34 PM
That would be the best of all worlds, he can get here fast, Defensive staff says intact. We may actually upgrade.

BeardoMSU
11-28-2017, 06:35 PM
U just told me grantham office was cleaned out.

https://media.giphy.com/media/bU2nZJegR7rz2/giphy.gif

Coach34
11-28-2017, 06:36 PM
Doesn’t mean he can’t put his stuf back in. He hasn’t signed anything uet

WinningIsRelentless
11-28-2017, 06:37 PM
Did you ever questions contend ability to recruit?

Anonymous
11-28-2017, 06:37 PM
Honestly don't want Morris.

Now Moorhead + Grantham, now that is something to get behind.

WSOPdawg
11-28-2017, 06:41 PM
Damn, how awesome would this be!!! This got me feeling somewhat wooly all of a sudden!

mo7888
11-28-2017, 06:43 PM
What type of recruiter is Morris?

KB21
11-28-2017, 06:44 PM
Some will try and hold Chad Morris's record at SMU against him. No one can win consistently there though, and they are bowl eligible this year after he inherited a team that finished with a 1-11 record the year prior to him going there. I'm not sure why he chose that job other than he's from Texas.

yjnkdawg
11-28-2017, 06:45 PM
Would be nice. I definitely like the idea of grantham getting a raise and being kept on board.



That would be great news, and I agree! Pay the Man (Grantham). Ole Dan would have to be lookng for a DC. .............Gonzo and Hev could do that while they are out on their extended recruiting visits.***

BuckyIsAB****
11-28-2017, 06:45 PM
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/6/10/5782566/clemson-offense-chad-morris


Yeah keep grantham and sign me up jack, 14-22 record at SMU is a bit concerning but they were awful before he took the job there. 2-10 his first year to 7-5 now. We would be hellacious on offense and Grantham staying for our D this is prolly the best move I've seen being considered.

preachermatt83
11-28-2017, 06:45 PM
What type of recruiter is Morris?

One of the best

Lumpy Chucklelips
11-28-2017, 06:46 PM
Chad Morris

Came to SMU after a 1-11 season. Went 2-9, then 5-7, then 7-5 with losses to 3 top 25 teams. Lead recruiter on Deshawn Watson to Clemson. In Jalen Mayden's back yard and I'm sure familiar with each other. His only drawback currently is he doesn't have a DC that is SEC level. If Cohen says he can have Grantham, I'm sure he'd be on board with that after seeing what Grantham did this year. That would lock up all of our defensive recruits and I imagine the main one he would have to work on offense would be Mayden.

Would love to have Pruitt's recruiting prowess, but if you can get this, you take it all day. Honestly might be an upgrade overall.

HoopsDawg
11-28-2017, 06:47 PM
Some chatter that we?re are going to hire a current head coach and not a coordinator. The thinking is with the team we have returning, we don?t need a guy with a possible learning curve as the head of the program.

Now then based on hearing that- I?ll throw this out simply as a guess by me:

Chad Morris as the HC
Todd Grantham staying on as DC and Assoc HC- with a big raise

Would be a Grand Slam if Cohen pulled that off.

That would be absolutely unreal.

I seen it dawg
11-28-2017, 06:47 PM
Morris is a good coach and recruiter. Pair him with Grantham and let’s roll.

BrunswickDawg
11-28-2017, 06:48 PM
Live look at John Cohen

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/2981631/no-marbles-o.gif

HoopsDawg
11-28-2017, 06:49 PM
Chad Morris

Came to SMU after a 1-11 season. Went 2-9, then 5-7, then 7-5 with losses to 3 top 25 teams. Lead recruiter on Deshawn Watson to Clemson. In Jalen Mayden's back yard and I'm sure familiar with each other. His only drawback currently is he doesn't have a DC that is SEC level. If Cohen says he can have Grantham, I'm sure he'd be on board with that after seeing what Grantham did this year. That would lock up all of our defensive recruits and I imagine the main one he would have to work on offense would be Mayden.

Would love to have Pruitt's recruiting prowess, but if you can get this, you take it all day. Honestly might be an upgrade overall.

I'm dead serious when I say Morris/Grantham > than Mullen/Grantham

Coached with Dabo, Offensive guru, head coaching experience and success, likes small towns, excellent recruiter. An Absolute homerun.

Really Clark?
11-28-2017, 06:51 PM
I would think he would wait out A & M and Jimbo. He is also high on Ark board

KB21
11-28-2017, 06:51 PM
Curious. Any concerns with the fact that he had SJ Touhy on his coaching staff at SMU?

Also, Mississippi State getting him would have to piss Ole Miss off, because Brad Logan claimed that Chad Morris "really wanted" the Ole Miss job.

Leroy Jenkins
11-28-2017, 06:52 PM
Why wouldn't Morris go to aTm? He is an Aggie.

Lumpy Chucklelips
11-28-2017, 06:52 PM
I keep hearing about his ties to Tuohy. Anybody know what that is about?

HoopsDawg
11-28-2017, 06:56 PM
Why wouldn't Morris go to aTm? He is an Aggie.

He will go to A&M if they miss on Jimbo.

KB21
11-28-2017, 06:57 PM
Why wouldn't Morris go to aTm? He is an Aggie.

Because A&M is going after Fisher and has no Plan B at this point.

Really Clark?
11-28-2017, 06:59 PM
Because A&M is going after Fisher and has no Plan B at this point.

Morris is their plan B and that's been known for a while

Todd4State
11-28-2017, 07:02 PM
I keep hearing about his ties to Tuohy. Anybody know what that is about?

Tuohy's son was their holder a couple of years ago. It wouldn't worry me.

Dawgfan77
11-28-2017, 07:03 PM
Honestly don't want Morris.

Now Moorhead + Grantham, now that is something to get behind.
What?s your issue with Morris

Shake 'n Bake
11-28-2017, 07:05 PM
13-22 is the biggest.

ATTILLA THE DOG
11-28-2017, 07:13 PM
Moorehead &Gramtham yes,no on morris

Dawg61
11-28-2017, 07:13 PM
Gotta think Morris is drooling getting to play with Fitz & Key in his offense. If this happens with Grantham signing on we'll be better next year than we would be with Don Merlot. Our WR recruiting would instantly improve.

Coursesuper
11-28-2017, 07:21 PM
13-22 is the biggest.

He took over a mess with zero talent on the roster and is going bowling in year 3. Dumbass argument.

Commercecomet24
11-28-2017, 07:24 PM
Got some fsu friends down in Panama City. Rumor going around Jimbo taking AM job. We?ll see

ILOATHEBears
11-28-2017, 07:24 PM
Live look at John Cohen

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/2981631/no-marbles-o.gif

You sir win the internet today. Of all the great stuff I?ve read and seen posted that visual of Cohen doing that to lateral move and Stricklin made me laugh

BuckyIsAB****
11-28-2017, 07:24 PM
Is Morris waiting on A&M?

Commercecomet24
11-28-2017, 07:25 PM
He took over a mess with zero talent on the roster and is going bowling in year 3. Dumbass argument.

Absolutely right! That place was a complete and total train wreck when he took over! Complete overhaul of talent and culture.

Dawgs87
11-28-2017, 07:28 PM
Sorry guys. I know my opinion doesn't matter, but... I don't understand why, regardless of circumstances, we would be excited about a head coach with a 17'ing 14-22 record that's best finish is 4th in his division. That is essentially... Croom. Please spare me.

2015 SMU 2–10 (1–7) T–5th
2016 SMU 5–7 (3–5) 5th
2017 SMU 7–5 (4–4) 4th

Dawg61
11-28-2017, 07:28 PM
How quickly people forget Chad Morris was the hottest name in the country when he took the SMU job.

Dawg61
11-28-2017, 07:29 PM
Sorry guys. I know my opinion doesn't matter, but... I don't understand why, regardless of circumstances, we would be excited about a head coach with a 17'ing 14-22 record that's best finish is 4th in his division. That is essentially... Croom. Please spare me.

2015 SMU 2?10 (1?7) T?5th
2016 SMU 5?7 (3?5) 5th
2017 SMU 7?5 (4?4) 4th

He took over a Rick Ray type program and they are bowling this year. That's a miracle in itself. SMU is 8th in the country in points per game at over 40 ppg.

sandjunky
11-28-2017, 07:33 PM
Sorry guys. I know my opinion doesn't matter, but... I don't understand why, regardless of circumstances, we would be excited about a head coach with a 17'ing 14-22 record that's best finish is 4th in his division. That is essentially... Croom. Please spare me.

2015 SMU 2–10 (1–7) T–5th
2016 SMU 5–7 (3–5) 5th
2017 SMU 7–5 (4–4) 4th

He had to play with a true freshman qb last year after the starter went down early in the year.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/stats/_/id/3916208/ben-hicks

Homedawg
11-28-2017, 07:34 PM
Some chatter that we?re are going to hire a current head coach and not a coordinator. The thinking is with the team we have returning, we don?t need a guy with a possible learning curve as the head of the program.

Now then based on hearing that- I?ll throw this out simply as a guess by me:

Chad Morris as the HC
Todd Grantham staying on as DC and Assoc HC- with a big raise

Would be a Grand Slam if Cohen pulled that off.

This would be ultimate.

Todd4State
11-28-2017, 07:35 PM
Whenever you are talking about SMU and Chad Morris it has to be in context. Yes his record is a losing record. It has also improved every year he has been there. He would be a great coach as long as he is paired with a great DC.

sleepy dawg
11-28-2017, 07:39 PM
Some will try and hold Chad Morris's record at SMU against him. No one can win consistently there though, and they are bowl eligible this year after he inherited a team that finished with a 1-11 record the year prior to him going there. I'm not sure why he chose that job other than he's from Texas.

Record shouldn't be used as a criteria when judging a head coach? That's certainly a bold strategy Cotten.

You basically described the situation Mullen came into at State. The difference being the AAC should be easy as hell for a good coach to win in... The SEC isn't going to be nearly as easy.

MarketingBully
11-28-2017, 07:43 PM
What type of recruiter is Morris?

Does Deshaun Watson ring a bell?

Dawgs87
11-28-2017, 07:44 PM
FWIW I did notice this tidbit "Morris is one of only four such coaches along with Paul Johnson at Georgia Tech, David Cutcliffe at Duke, and Mike Leach at Washington State."

Current coaches that didn't play football at the college level.

civildawg
11-28-2017, 07:44 PM
Moorehead &Gramtham yes,no on morris

I think moorehead with Grantham would be an absolute homerun. Hell i might would prefer that over Mullen honestly

MarketingBully
11-28-2017, 07:45 PM
SMU is and always will be a shit program. He’s an awesome coach.

Homedawg
11-28-2017, 07:45 PM
U just told me grantham office was cleaned out.

Slive rule....pipe down. Never was real, ever. Ever.

Sacrifice
11-28-2017, 07:48 PM
I?ll be honest, I forgot SMU was still playing football till 2 years ago, literally nobody was talking about them.
I watched one of there games this season and they are very aggressive on offense. Shifts, uptempo, trick plays all kinds of different formations. They put a lot of pressure on defenses

HoopsDawg
11-28-2017, 07:49 PM
Sorry guys. I know my opinion doesn't matter, but... I don't understand why, regardless of circumstances, we would be excited about a head coach with a 17'ing 14-22 record that's best finish is 4th in his division. That is essentially... Croom. Please spare me.

2015 SMU 2–10 (1–7) T–5th
2016 SMU 5–7 (3–5) 5th
2017 SMU 7–5 (4–4) 4th

Your post is an argument for him. Improved every year.

Dawg61
11-28-2017, 07:53 PM
The guy that signed Deshaun Watson for Clemson is a hell of coach. This would be a homerun hire and a grand slam if Cohen keeps Grantham too.


• Coached Clemson’s young offense to over 400 yards per game in 2014 before accepting the head-coaching position at Southern Methodist in December 2014.

• Clemson had a 41-11 overall record and 27-6 record against ACC teams in his four seasons in Tigertown.

• Named 2013 AFCA National Assistant Coach-of-the-Year and one of five finalists for national offensive coordinator-of-the-year by 247Sports.com.

• Clemson’s 2013 offense averaged 507.7 yards per game and 40.2 points per game.

• Coached Tajh Boyd to nearly every school record for a quarterback and the ACC record for both career touchdown responsibility (133) and career passing touchdowns (107). Boyd was also a three-time All-ACC selection.

• Coached first-team All-America wide receiver and Biletnikoff Award finalist Sammy Watkins to a school-record 101 receptions for a school-record 1,464 yards and 12 touchdowns in 2013.

• Directed Clemson’s offense to record heights in 2012. The team set school records for total offense per game (512.7) and points per game (41.0). Clemson was sixth in the nation in scoring and ninth in the nation in total offense.

• Boyd, who was a first-team All-American in 2012, was fifth in the nation in passing efficiency (165.6) and accounted for 46 touchdowns (10 rushing, 36 passing). Boyd was also named ACC Player-of-the-Year in 2012.

• Running back Andre Ellington and wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins both totaled 1,000 yards at their respective positions in 2012. Hopkins was a second-team All-American and center Dalton Freeman was a first-team All-American as well.

• A big reason Clemson won the 2011 ACC title for the first time in 20 years. Clemson also won 10 games for the first time in 21 years and defeated a record four top-25 teams.

• National offensive coordinator-of-the-year by Rivals.com in 2011.

• Clemson and Baylor were the only FBS schools with a 3,000-yard passer, 1,000-yard rusher and 1,000-yard receiver every year from 2011-13.

• Served as offensive coordinator and associate head coach at Tulsa in 2010 and guided the offense to among the nation’s best. That offense was a big reason Tulsa improved from 5-7 in 2009 to 10-3 in 2010.

• Tulsa averaged 41.4 points per game, eighth-most in the nation, and scored at least 28 points in 12 of its 13 games. Tulsa was fifth nationally in first downs (25.6) and tied for fifth in touchdowns scored from the red zone (46). His offense scored 64 touchdowns on scrimmage plays (32 rushing, 32 passing). The team totaled 1,006 plays (537 rushes, 469 passes) in 2010.

• Won 82 percent of his games as a high school coach in Texas. He led Lake Travis High School to back-to-back, undefeated (16-0) state championship seasons. He won three state titles overall and played in six state championship games in his high school coaching career.

• In 16 years as a head coach in high school, he had a 169-38 record (.816). He earned coach-of-the-year honors in 11 of those 16 years.

• His 2008 team was ranked No. 2 in the nation by USA Today and No. 8 by Rivals.com, while his 2009 team was ranked No. 2 by Rivals.com and No. 9 by USA Today.

msstate7
11-28-2017, 07:53 PM
Your post is an argument for him. Improved every year.

I know it is a moot point, but Kiffin?s turnaround is much, much more impressive

BeardoMSU
11-28-2017, 07:53 PM
He took over a Rick Ray type program and they are bowling this year.

This^^^^

It's the basketball equivalent of Howland leading us to the NCAA this year after what he inherited.

Lord McBuckethead
11-28-2017, 07:55 PM
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/6/10/5782566/clemson-offense-chad-morris


Yeah keep grantham and sign me up jack, 14-22 record at SMU is a bit concerning but they were awful before he took the job there. 2-10 his first year to 7-5 now. We would be hellacious on offense and Grantham staying for our D this is prolly the best move I've seen being considered.

Really Morris or Moorhead.

Coach007
11-28-2017, 07:57 PM
No to Chad Morris. Come on.... If we can't do better than that, then we are simply stupid.

MeridianDog
11-28-2017, 07:57 PM
We need to come out on the positive side of this and this would help a lot.

raymond21
11-28-2017, 08:00 PM
Honestly don't want Morris.

Now Moorhead + Grantham, now that is something to get behind.

I approve

TheWorkHersch
11-28-2017, 08:01 PM
No to Chad Morris. Come on.... If we can't do better than that, then we are simply stupid.

Solid analysis****

Dawgs87
11-28-2017, 08:03 PM
I know it is a moot point, but Kiffin?s turnaround is much, much more impressive

I approve of this message.

Don't get me wrong. Morris sounds like a homerun OC hire for Pruitt, Kiffin or Leach.

The thought of Moorhead just makes me very uninspired and sad.

msstate7
11-28-2017, 08:05 PM
Morris is middle of the pack recruiting in the AAC. Houston, Cincinnati, ucf, and USF are all ahead in recruiting rankings, which is understandable. Temple with Collins is ahead of them too though, which leads me to believe Morris is not the elite recruiter being portrayed here. Collins is a good recruiter, but smu has much more talent surrounding it.

ETA... Morris has finished 7th out of 12 in his first 2 years. He is 6th this year

sleepy dawg
11-28-2017, 08:06 PM
Let's chill on the SMU is the worst program ever talk and Chad saved them

Before Chad:
2009 8-5: Conference Champs
2010 7-7: Conference Champs
2011 8-5
2012 7-6
2013 5-7
2014 1-9 (Head coach resigned after 2 games)
In comes Chad:
2015 2-10
2016 5-7
2016 7-5


I'll give you he's had them heading back in the right direction, but to try to act like he's superman is ridiculous. A good coach should be able to dominate in the AAC even with less than stellar talent. 2 of their 4 losing seasons in the past 9 years came under Chad's watch.

Mullen turned us around quicker with a way shittier recent history. Did we have better talent, yes, but we also played in a waaay tougher conference to win in.

This may infact turn out to be a good hire, but to call it a "homerun" hire is absurd... Maybe more like a double, triple at best.

Cooterpoot
11-28-2017, 08:07 PM
Give me Morris over Moorhead everyday. Morris has turned SMU around. Just needs a DC.

Homedawg
11-28-2017, 08:09 PM
Let's chill on the SMU is the worst program ever talk and Chad saved them

Before Chad:
2009 8-5: Conference Champs
2010 7-7: Conference Champs
2011 8-5
2012 7-6
2013 5-7
2014 1-9 (Head coach resigned after 2 games)
In comes Chad:
2015 2-10
2016 5-7
2016 7-5


I'll give you he's had them heading back in the right direction, but to try to act like he's superman is ridiculous. A good coach should be able to dominate in the AAC even with less than stellar talent. 2 of their 4 losing seasons in the past 9 years came under Chad's watch.

Mullen turned us around quicker with a way shittier recent history. Did we have better talent, yes, but we also played in a waaay tougher conference to win in.

This may infact turn out to be a good hire, but to call it a "homerun" hire is absurd... Maybe more like a double, triple at best.

While I don't know who the best hire is, please define slam dunk at msu? Cause we can hire a guy like him or a coordinating that's never been a head coach. There is no ben howlamd out there pal.

was21
11-28-2017, 08:12 PM
Board consensus wanting defensive guy Grantham to remain. So that would leave Morris and Moorhead in play...the other defensive guy would be out....sounds like a brilliant ploy or play

Dawgs87
11-28-2017, 08:13 PM
While I don't know who the best hire is, please define slam dunk at msu? Cause we can hire a guy like him or a coordinating that's never been a head coach. There is no ben howlamd out there pal.


So we can hire a guy with no head coaching experience or a guy with 14-22 worth of head coaching experience. No thanks on the Gene Chizik offer, unless he comes with Cam for at least one season.

Speaking of which, wth were Jay Jacobs and Pat Dye thinking? Chizik pre Auburn HC experience:
2007 Iowa State 3–9 2–6 T–5th (North)
2008 Iowa State 2–10 0–8 6th (North)
Iowa State: 5–19 2–14

Homedawg
11-28-2017, 08:17 PM
So we can hire a guy with no head coaching experience or a guy with 14-22 worth of head coaching experience. No thanks on the Gene Chizik offer.

He took over a dumpster fire. Worse than Mullen took over. Terrible. Beyond that. So a crap shoot or a guy who has proven he can turn a place around?? Gene chizik was 3-8 at Iowa st and won at auburn so I guess you made my point. Thanks!

Percho
11-28-2017, 08:17 PM
U just told me grantham office was cleaned out.

Moving into a bigger space???

BulldogDX55
11-28-2017, 08:21 PM
Let's chill on the SMU is the worst program ever talk and Chad saved them

Before Chad:
2009 8-5: Conference Champs
2010 7-7: Conference Champs
2011 8-5
2012 7-6
2013 5-7
2014 1-9 (Head coach resigned after 2 games)
In comes Chad:
2015 2-10
2016 5-7
2016 7-5


I'll give you he's had them heading back in the right direction, but to try to act like he's superman is ridiculous. A good coach should be able to dominate in the AAC even with less than stellar talent. 2 of their 4 losing seasons in the past 9 years came under Chad's watch.

Mullen turned us around quicker with a way shittier recent history. Did we have better talent, yes, but we also played in a waaay tougher conference to win in.

This may infact turn out to be a good hire, but to call it a "homerun" hire is absurd... Maybe more like a double, triple at best.

2013 and prior they were CUSA, a much weaker conference.

preachermatt83
11-28-2017, 08:26 PM
If u can keep grantham and hire a very good offensive coach (Morris or Moorhead) you jump on it in a split second.

msstate7
11-28-2017, 08:27 PM
If u can keep grantham and hire a very good offensive coach (Morris or Moorhead) you jump on it in a split second.

I agree

Homedawg
11-28-2017, 08:28 PM
If u can keep grantham and hire a very good offensive coach (Morris or Moorhead) you jump on it in a split second.

I'm with you on this....

sleepy dawg
11-28-2017, 08:29 PM
While I don't know who the best hire is, please define slam dunk at msu? Cause we can hire a guy like him or a coordinating that's never been a head coach. There is no ben howlamd out there pal.

I can't answer that question, buddy. I don't have the answers either. I'm also not saying I wouldn't fully support him if that's who we get, b/c I will and I just will hope I have no idea what I'm talking about and the rest of you are geniuses.

I thought HR the moment I heard we hired these guys:
Dan Mullen
Ben Howland
John Cohen
Andy Cannizaro

I did not think HR when we hired:
Rick Ray

I am by no means saying I think Chad is the next Ray, but for where our program is right now, this isn't a HR for us. It's just pretty good.

Coursesuper
11-28-2017, 08:29 PM
If u can keep grantham and hire a very good offensive coach (Morris or Moorhead) you jump on it in a split second.

Exactly!!!

Get them on board quick and go lock down the receivers and get another corner.

NeshobaChuck
11-28-2017, 08:31 PM
Is Whittingham and Grantham not an option here?? I mean I did see where it was mentioned on here that Whittingham did contact us about the job

RocketDawg
11-28-2017, 08:32 PM
If u can keep grantham and hire a very good offensive coach (Morris or Moorhead) you jump on it in a split second.

In the end it's going to be Cohen's (and I guess Kennnum's) decision, assuming both Morris and Moorhead want the job. Possibly a larger discriminator is keeping Grantham. Hopefully both of them would want to.

Commercecomet24
11-28-2017, 08:33 PM
If u can keep grantham and hire a very good offensive coach (Morris or Moorhead) you jump on it in a split second.

Absolutely

Dawg496
11-28-2017, 08:53 PM
Pruitt is a much better candidate IMO. We don't have to worry about losing Grantham and he will likely hire a much strong supporting staff.

NHDawg
11-28-2017, 08:55 PM
Why are we considering hiring the Jeb Bush of Football? Moorhead looks like a low energy sad man who really enjoys boys youth camps in the summer.

NHDawg
11-28-2017, 08:57 PM
I fully support this Pruitt is a high-energy coach that is going to get our fan base fired up after this last week of getting kicked in the teeth. We don't need Jeb Bush to come in and hand out pocket turtles to our recruits.

War Machine Dawg
11-28-2017, 08:57 PM
If Cohen pulls off hiring Morris & keeping Grantham, I'll be like:
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/584a34b3b86e9aa90eeec81f4d507aaf77c6779e/0_160_4728_2836/master/4728.jpg?w=700&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&

NCDawg
11-28-2017, 08:58 PM
Why are we considering hiring the Jeb Bush of Football? Moorhead looks like a low energy sad man who really enjoys boys youth camps in the summer.

Strange first post. You can't judge his football coaching ability from his looks.

TheWorkHersch
11-28-2017, 08:59 PM
I fully support this Pruitt is a high-energy coach that is going to get our fan base fired up after this last week of getting kicked in the teeth. We don't need Jeb Bush to come in and hand out pocket turtles to our recruits.

Feel better about my first 5 posts. Thanks for joining.

Dawg496
11-28-2017, 09:00 PM
Strange first post. You can't judge his football coaching ability from his looks.

There's a reason Charlie Weiss was a terrible coach. Mark Mangino was too. Don't forget about Burt Belimia.

Dawg496
11-28-2017, 09:00 PM
I agree. Cohen should say no to Jeb Moorhead.

Gridirondawg
11-28-2017, 09:01 PM
Why are we considering hiring the Jeb Bush of Football? Moorhead looks like a low energy sad man who really enjoys boys youth camps in the summer.

Welcome to the board, I see you are sure to be a source of great insight.

NHDawg
11-28-2017, 09:02 PM
Optics matter. Our fans are going to buy in if our coach can't get people excited. We aren't going to attract top-level talent with a coach that has to go on the jumbotron to ask the fans to please clap. Moorhead may be an amazing OC, but if our O-line is averaging 50 pounds lighter than other because Moorhead can only attract players from the First Presbyterian Christian High School.

yjnkdawg
11-28-2017, 09:04 PM
I fully support this Pruitt is a high-energy coach that is going to get our fan base fired up after this last week of getting kicked in the teeth. We don't need Jeb Bush to come in and hand out pocket turtles to our recruits.


Our recruits may like pocket turtles, but carry on.

sleepy dawg
11-28-2017, 09:07 PM
Why are we considering hiring the Jeb Bush of Football? Moorhead looks like a low energy sad man who really enjoys*

Take that last part off. He doesn't deserve that.

War Machine Dawg
11-28-2017, 09:08 PM
Optics matter. Our fans are going to buy in if our coach can't get people excited. We aren't going to attract top-level talent with a coach that has to go on the jumbotron to ask the fans to please clap. Moorhead may be an amazing OC, but if our O-line is averaging 50 pounds lighter than other because Moorhead can only attract players from the First Presbyterian Christian High School.

Encumbered by idjits, we pressed on.

NHDawg
11-28-2017, 09:09 PM
Neither do we, that is why I am so against this hire.

BuckyIsAB****
11-28-2017, 09:10 PM
This man going in on Moorhead hahahahaah

NHDawg
11-28-2017, 09:11 PM
Am I the only one who cares? Everyone here seems like they are just happy hiring whoever has thrown a football. You may be happy to going back to Croom-Era football, but I say NAY. I want greatness. I am not happy with 8-4 or 9-3. I want it all. I want to win the world series of College Football.

yjnkdawg
11-28-2017, 09:12 PM
Optics matter. Our fans are going to buy in if our coach can't get people excited. We aren't going to attract top-level talent with a coach that has to go on the jumbotron to ask the fans to please clap. Moorhead may be an amazing OC, but if our O-line is averaging 50 pounds lighter than other because Moorhead can only attract players from the First Presbyterian Christian High School.


First off. How do you know anything about what Moorhead will do? Are you on the Penn State Football staff, or maybe you are on the First Presbyterian Christian High School Staff. That would probably make more sense. I bet Cohen is not aware of this pertinent information. He needs to know this before he...hmmm possibly makes a big mistake.

NHDawg
11-28-2017, 09:14 PM
Look, I just found a picture of Joe Moorhead pumping up his offense at Half Time.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Lm3f_iA5-iE/hqdefault.jpg

Dawgs87
11-28-2017, 09:14 PM
Strange first post. You can't judge his football coaching ability from his looks.

Remember when Mullen first got to town? He was talking smack, getting on the jumbotron before and after games and pissing people off. He was full of piss and vinegar. Moorhead appears to be all out of piss and vinegar. If he's not inspiring and seems lame to me, I have a hard time seeing him truly inspiring the 18, 19, and 20 y/o's from Mississippi and around the south, even if he's Bellichik level at X's and O's. And that's the guys we already have. Jeb has exactly 1, count em, 1 four star recruit to his credit. He just isn't a good fit.

Randolph Dupree
11-28-2017, 09:16 PM
Hugh Freeze approves of more head

(Sorry I know it’s been done but I couldn’t help myself...then again, neither could Hugh)

mstatefan91
11-28-2017, 09:17 PM
NHDawg working hard for a ban at only 5 posts in. Probably a bear troll anyway.

sleepy dawg
11-28-2017, 09:18 PM
Am I the only one who cares? Everyone here seems like they are just happy hiring whoever has thrown a football. You may be happy to going back to Croom-Era football, but I say NAY. I want greatness. I am not happy with 8-4 or 9-3. I want it all. I want to win the world series of College Football.

http://s.quickmeme.com/img/04/041589c26a5d64d288f6bd0fa8e9bc2787aadb4e1bc98b6715 653195a4120b4e.jpg

BulldogDX55
11-28-2017, 09:18 PM
Am I the only one who cares? Everyone here seems like they are just happy hiring whoever has thrown a football. You may be happy to going back to Croom-Era football, but I say NAY. I want greatness. I am not happy with 8-4 or 9-3. I want it all. I want to win the world series of College Football.

What is your role is Sextons agency? Were you also The Source?

Dawg496
11-28-2017, 09:19 PM
Morehead checks like 0 boxes:

Can't relate to Southerners
Not a good recruiter
Low energy/Very Jeb-esque

Pruitt:

Country boy / southern charm
Great recruiter
High energy

yjnkdawg
11-28-2017, 09:19 PM
Am I the only one who cares? Everyone here seems like they are just happy hiring whoever has thrown a football. You may be happy to going back to Croom-Era football, but I say NAY. I want greatness. I am not happy with 8-4 or 9-3. I want it all. I want to win the world series of College Football.


Just for the record. I have a "LOT" more confidence in John Cohen making the homerun ( to match your baseball lingo) hire than somebody who is clueless on one of our potential candidates.

msstate7
11-28-2017, 09:20 PM
Morehead checks like 0 boxes:

Can't relate to Southerners
Not a good recruiter
Low energy/Very Jeb-esque

Pruitt:

Country boy / southern charm
Great recruiter
High energy

Wow... you have no idea what Moorhead is or is not

BrunswickDawg
11-28-2017, 09:20 PM
Look, I just found a picture of Joe Moorhead pumping up his offense at Half Time. ]

Goat is that you? I thought they gave you an IP ban. If you aren?t Goat - quit trying to be Goat because as bad as Goat sucks, your imitation of Goat sucks more.

NHDawg
11-28-2017, 09:21 PM
NHDawg working hard for a ban at only 5 posts in. Probably a bear troll anyway.

No, I just believe in the following quote.

"If more people were actively engaged in advocating their positions I think we'd have a better Society"

- Joe Moorhead

mstatefan91
11-28-2017, 09:23 PM
I am very skeptical of the posters over the past couple of pages. Seems like one person.

Dawg496
11-28-2017, 09:23 PM
Wow... you have no idea what Moorhead is or is not

Is he a southerner? Coached his entire life in NE.

Is he a recruiter? Only one 4 star or higher recruit signed in his career.

What exactly are you refuting in your well-formed argument?

Dawg496
11-28-2017, 09:24 PM
I am very skeptical of the posters over the past couple of pages. Seems like one person.

So if a few people don't like Morehead, it must be the same person. On the other hand if the other 50 people in this thread do like Morehead, that's completely normal. Seems legit.**

mstatefan91
11-28-2017, 09:26 PM
So if a few people don't like Morehead, it must be the same person. On the other hand if the other 50 people in this thread do like Morehead, that's completely normal. Seems legit.**

Yep. Very skeptical

NHDawg
11-28-2017, 09:26 PM
I am sorry I care. I am sorry that I want to bring Greatness to my Alma Matre. I am sorry I rub you the wrong way... Actually no I am not sorry. All of you should be sorry. Sorry for being willing to settle for 'good enough'. Sorry for not being passionate about your school or your football program. Sorry for not caring about your State.

I want Mississippi State University to be the best dern University in the country with the best football program. I am done settling for 9-3 being a great year. I bet all of you tell your kids they can be whatever they want when they grow up and give them trophies even if they lose. Which, by the way, if people like you who are happy with 'Good Enough' have kids, they will grow up to be perfect middle management goons accomplishing nothing.

Randolph Dupree
11-28-2017, 09:26 PM
No, I just believe in the following quote.

"If more people were actively engaged in advocating their positions I think we'd have a better Society"

- Joe Moorhead

Not a fan?

Doggie_Style
11-28-2017, 09:27 PM
No, I just believe in the following quote.

"If more people were actively engaged in advocating their positions I think we'd have a better Society"

- Joe Moorhead

NHDawg and his 7 posts are all in on some political agenda not related to MSU football....delete this mo-fo

NHDawg
11-28-2017, 09:27 PM
Not a fan?

No, Moorhead is going to be an awful head ball coach at State.

NHDawg
11-28-2017, 09:28 PM
NHDawg and his 7 posts are all in on some political agenda not related to MSU football....delete this mo-fo

My Posts are directly related to MSU football and my desire to see it be the greatest program in the country.

msstate7
11-28-2017, 09:29 PM
Is he a southerner? Coached his entire life in NE.

Is he a recruiter? Only one 4 star or higher recruit signed in his career.

What exactly are you refuting in your well-formed argument?

Being a southerner is not a prerequisite to being a good recruiter.

Look at this awesome recruiter...

https://247sports.com/Coach/John-Hevesy-303

Hev reeled all those guys in, right? Stop looking at 247 credited commits to determine how good a recruiter someone is

yjnkdawg
11-28-2017, 09:29 PM
Look, I just found a picture of Joe Moorhead pumping up his offense at Half Time.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Lm3f_iA5-iE/hqdefault.jpg

SO you are on the Penn State Football Staff!!!! Wow! I should have known with all this inside information and you trying to promote him as our new head coach. Job well done. ****

Randolph Dupree
11-28-2017, 09:31 PM
No, Moorhead is going to be an awful head ball coach at State.

No, I meant are you Mcready?

Dawg-gone-dawgs
11-28-2017, 09:31 PM
What type of recruiter is Morris?
Oh you haven?t heard? Recruiting don?t really matter

sleepy dawg
11-28-2017, 09:32 PM
So if a few people don't like Morehead, it must be the same person. On the other hand if the other 50 people in this thread do like Morehead, that's completely normal. Seems legit.**

Well you didn't exactly make a case against it. How you worded definitely makes it possible.

My guess though is it probably had more to do with the fact that the majority of negative posts about him are mostly bashing superficial things and not really based on anything.

BuckyIsAB****
11-28-2017, 09:32 PM
As much as I hate to say it, Moorhead does look more like a principal than a football coach hahaha

Perpetual Underachiever
11-28-2017, 09:33 PM
Morehead checks like 0 boxes:

Can't relate to Southerners
Not a good recruiter
Low energy/Very Jeb-esque

Pruitt:

Country boy / southern charm
Great recruiter
High energy
Doesn't know what Asparagus is

FIFY

yjnkdawg
11-28-2017, 09:33 PM
I am very skeptical of the posters over the past couple of pages. Seems like one person.


Yep

Percho
11-28-2017, 09:33 PM
Am I the only one who cares? Everyone here seems like they are just happy hiring whoever has thrown a football. You may be happy to going back to Croom-Era football, but I say NAY. I want greatness. I am not happy with 8-4 or 9-3. I want it all. I want to win the world series of College Football.

And you would hire?

NHDawg
11-28-2017, 09:34 PM
As much as I hate to say it, Moorhead does look more like a principal than a football coach hahaha

Exactly, looks more qualified to be chasing down Ferris Bueller than chasing down recruits.

Coach34
11-28-2017, 09:36 PM
Miss State is not hiring someone that doesnt know what asparagus is...end of story

NHDawg
11-28-2017, 09:37 PM
And you would hire?

1. Pruitt
2. Kiffin
3. Leach
4. Venables

Heck, I would even Take Larry Fedora over this Jeb Bush Impersonator.

Randolph Dupree
11-28-2017, 09:40 PM
In all seriousness, vegetables and Jeb’s aside, I don’t watch a lot of SMU football. What type of spread does Morris run? Is it more of a power game or is it the score quick and wear your own defense out kind?

Really Clark?
11-28-2017, 09:40 PM
Is he a southerner? Coached his entire life in NE.

Is he a recruiter? Only one 4 star or higher recruit signed in his career.

What exactly are you refuting in your well-formed argument?

He has only been at a P5 school for 2 years. How bout he signed a mid 3 star to Akron (plus other 3 stars) when he was their. It's not like he has been at big high profile schools for 15 years to pad his stats.

Commercecomet24
11-28-2017, 09:42 PM
Once again Cohen will hire the right guy. You either trust him or you don?t. Whoever he hires will get the job done.

Dawg496
11-28-2017, 09:45 PM
Being a southerner is not a prerequisite to being a good recruiter.

Look at this awesome recruiter...

https://247sports.com/Coach/John-Hevesy-303

Hev reeled all those guys in, right? Stop looking at 247 credited commits to determine how good a recruiter someone is

So what data are you looking at to prove he is a good recruiter?

Doggie_Style
11-28-2017, 09:47 PM
Moderators...I think we?ve seen enough of this NHDawg troll....DELETE

yjnkdawg
11-28-2017, 09:47 PM
1. Pruitt
2. Kiffin
3. Leach
4. Venables

Heck, I would even Take Larry Fedora over this Jeb Bush Impersonator.


There is one problem here. Unless you are John Cohen. and I'm 500% sure that I am correct in saying that you aren't. Then who you think should be hired is really a mute point. And I am so glad that you aren't John Cohen. By the way this Jeb Bush crap is getting old very quickly. Are you and Dawg496 brothers? Just wondering.

msstate7
11-28-2017, 09:49 PM
So what data are you looking at to prove he is a good recruiter?

I don?t know... just like you

sleepy dawg
11-28-2017, 09:50 PM
I am sorry I care. I am sorry that I want to bring Greatness to my Alma Matre. I am sorry I rub you the wrong way... Actually no I am not sorry. All of you should be sorry. Sorry for being willing to settle for 'good enough'. Sorry for not being passionate about your school or your football program. Sorry for not caring about your State.

I want Mississippi State University to be the best dern University in the country with the best football program. I am done settling for 9-3 being a great year. I bet all of you tell your kids they can be whatever they want when they grow up and give them trophies even if they lose. Which, by the way, if people like you who are happy with 'Good Enough' have kids, they will grow up to be perfect middle management goons accomplishing nothing.

I'm just trying to tell you that its not okay to insinuate someone is a pedophile for no other reason that to promote your favorite football team and you disagreed.

NHDawg
11-28-2017, 09:55 PM
There is one problem here. Unless you are John Cohen. and I'm 500% sure that I am correct in saying that you aren't. Then who you think should be hired is really a mute point. And I am so glad that you aren't John Cohen. By the way this Jeb Bush crap is getting old very quickly. Are you and Dawg496 brothers? Just wondering.

I was asked who I would hire.

Commercecomet24
11-28-2017, 09:58 PM
I believe we have us some bears or landsharts or whatever they?re calling themselves now up in here.

MoreCowbell
11-28-2017, 10:00 PM
Gotta be honest, I?m a little underwhelmed. Maybe I?m missing something but people talking like this is a Home run hire are confusing me. I mean he might turn out to be great but seems like we had more sure fire options. I do trust Cohen though.

Really Clark?
11-28-2017, 10:04 PM
Gotta be honest, I?m a little underwhelmed. Maybe I?m missing something but people talking like this is a Home run hire are confusing me. I mean he might turn out to be great but seems like we had more sure fire options. I do trust Cohen though.

This guys offense is what took UConn to the Fiesta Bowl. UCONN!!!

parabrave
11-28-2017, 10:05 PM
I believe we have us some bears or landsharts or whatever they?re calling themselves now up in here.

No Engie must be back.

TrapGame
11-28-2017, 10:05 PM
Gotta be honest, I?m a little underwhelmed. Maybe I?m missing something but people talking like this is a Home run hire are confusing me. I mean he might turn out to be great but seems like we had more sure fire options. I do trust Cohen though.

When Aeris is the best RB in the SEC next year you'll understand why. J'Mo is really an offensive genius. If we keep Grantham we'll have a 9 win team at the least.

yjnkdawg
11-28-2017, 10:09 PM
Morehead checks like 0 boxes:

Can't relate to Southerners (Please tell how you are so well informed on this?)
Not a good recruiter ( You have no clue how Penn State Recruits or their recruiting philosophy, and it would be best not to depend on a paid message board for this)
Low energy/Very Jeb-esque (The coaches that have been around him and his players respectfully disagree)

Pruitt:

Country boy / southern charm
Great recruiter
High energy


I'm not in disagreement with your thoughts on Pruitt. But you are totally clueless on what you said about Moorhead (not Morehead)

Dawgs87
11-28-2017, 10:46 PM
I'm not in disagreement with your thoughts on Pruitt. But you are totally clueless on what you said about Moorhead (not Morehead)


Side note: Very skeptical of the posters on the last few pages schtick is another way of saying, "I disagree with what you are saying and instead of forming a competant and thoughtful rebuttal, I'm just going to take the easy way, claim it's the same person and be simultaneously willfully ignorant and elated about our hire."

This is ridiculous. What are Moorhead's qualifications? A few pages back, I was being emphatically told that someone with HC experience was infinitely better than someone without. FWIW I would rather have Morris.

Moorhead was at Fordham 2 years ago, no SEC experience, no south experience, no notable recruits to his name. No nothing. In Cohen we trust. And i did to.

But, someone please, please tell me how if Jo Mo is such a home run hire, why isn't his name mentioned in a single other coaching search??? Speaking of rainman. Better hope Cohen is rainman, because that's the only way this is working out.

Recruits: "So since Merlins left, who is the new coach?"

To recruits: "Jo Mo. You know. He was the Fordham HC."

Recruits: "Where do I sign?"

Really Clark?
11-28-2017, 10:53 PM
Side note: Very skeptical of the posters on the last few pages schtick is another way of saying, "I disagree with what you are saying and instead of forming a competant and thoughtful rebuttal, I'm just going to take the easy way, claim it's the same person and be simultaneously willfully ignorant and elated about our hire."

This is ridiculous. What are Moorhead's qualifications? A few pages back, I was being emphatically told that someone with HC experience was infinitely better than someone without. FWIW I would rather have Morris.

Moorhead was at Fordham 2 years ago, no SEC experience, no south experience, no notable recruits to his name. No nothing. In Cohen we trust. And i did to.

But, someone please, please tell me how if Jo Mo is such a home run hire, why isn't his name mentioned in a single other coaching search??? Speaking of rainman. Better hope Cohen is rainman, because that's the only way this is working out.

Recruits: "So since Merlins left, who is the new coach?"

To recruits: "Jo Mo. You know. He was the Fordham HC."

Recruits: "Where do I sign?"

He was mentioned for at least 4 different D1 jobs last year and interviewed for at least 2 after just one year at PSU. Withdrew from the UConn job I heleive

Dawgs87
11-28-2017, 10:55 PM
He was mentioned for at least 4 different D1 jobs last year and interviewed for at least 2 after just one year at PSU. Withdrew from the UConn job I heleive

Ayy. I instantly feel better about this. I'm sorry.


https://www.redcuprebellion.com/2017/10/22/16516420/ole-miss-football-coach-search-joe-moorhead-penn-state-fordham-sports-illustrated-up-tempo-offense

For those of you that don't want to give them the click:

Headline: "If Ole Miss wants to hire a coordinator, Joe Moorhead is that dude, and here’s why"

NHDawg
11-28-2017, 11:09 PM
JOE FREAKIN MOORHEAD!!!!!!!!!! I am pumped for this hire. I can't wait to drop 60 points on Florida next year. Glad I called this and supported this hire the whole time!

Dawgs87
11-28-2017, 11:22 PM
When Aeris is the best RB in the SEC next year you'll understand why. J'Mo is really an offensive genius. If we keep Grantham we'll have a 9 win team at the least.

My money is on Kylin Hill. He's a straight stud. I think he has the potential to be the best we've ever had.

Commercecomet24
11-28-2017, 11:24 PM
No Engie must be back.

Dang man now that was funny!!!

Westdawg
11-28-2017, 11:50 PM
JOE FREAKIN MOORHEAD!!!!!!!!!! I am pumped for this hire. I can't wait to drop 60 points on Florida next year. Glad I called this and supported this hire the whole time!

The fact that you hate this hire tells me a few things:

1- you didn?t get YOUR guy
2- you have no or a very limited understanding of the offensive side of football.
3- you hate northerners. Don?t forget that yankee we just had that transformed our football program. And outside of Tebow, he really never recruited and signed but a couple high profile recruits, either. ( matter of fact, Tebow actually stated that he almost chose Bama over Florida BECAUSE he didn?t like Mullen).
4- go and read up on Moorhead?s ?spilt-zone read? and ?flood? concepts........that is some seriously good stuff ?? if you can grasp it. If I was a WR prospect, I would be ALL OVER THIS GUY - because this offense will get them prepped for the NFL. great stuff.
To help you out , I linked a few picture shows to speed up your learning curve and help you acclimate to our new HC.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wm7Re_wsyGs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m-qrEeNBKTo

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s80ZDzwzmBk

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=URHo20mo9vc

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RfZRPFsZjm4

smootness
11-29-2017, 12:02 AM
My money is on Kylin Hill. He's a straight stud. I think he has the potential to be the best we've ever had.

Yup. Was clearly the best skill player we had this year. Really frustrating he didn't get more touches.

Dawgcap
11-29-2017, 12:17 AM
I said this earlier but tell me what is a homerun hire. Several guys interviewed. All had strengths and weaknesses. The one thing I know is we have an AD with our best interest at heart. He interviewed the main players, listened to their immediate and future plans. He made a decision based off that! Are we sure it's right? No but I damn well bet he made decisions for the bterment of this school. And I believe that he trust in appointing a head coach and that head coach making appropriate hires. If things don't work out I can almost promise the shit will hit the fan. Until then I trust who we put in charge.

Commercecomet24
11-29-2017, 12:22 AM
The fact that you hate this hire tells me a few things:

1- you didn?t get YOUR guy
2- you have no or a very limited understanding of the offensive side of football.
3- you hate northerners. Don?t forget that yankee we just had that transformed our football program. And outside of Tebow, he really never recruited and signed but a couple high profile recruits, either. ( matter of fact, Tebow actually stated that he almost chose Bama over Florida BECAUSE he didn?t like Mullen).
4- go and read up on Moorhead?s ?spilt-zone read? and ?flood? concepts........that is some seriously good stuff ?? if you can grasp it. If I was a WR prospect, I would be ALL OVER THIS GUY - because this offense will get them prepped for the NFL. great stuff.
To help you out , I linked a few picture shows to speed up your learning curve and help you acclimate to our new HC.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wm7Re_wsyGs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m-qrEeNBKTo

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s80ZDzwzmBk

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=URHo20mo9vc

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RfZRPFsZjm4

This guy gets it! I was super excited when I read the split-zone read and flood concepts last night and also the fact he will neutralize the interior dl in the run game. If you can?t block em read em. This guy is sharp!

NHDawg
11-29-2017, 12:27 AM
The fact that you hate this hire tells me a few things:

1- you didn?t get YOUR guy
2- you have no or a very limited understanding of the offensive side of football.
3- you hate northerners. Don?t forget that yankee we just had that transformed our football program. And outside of Tebow, he really never recruited and signed but a couple high profile recruits, either. ( matter of fact, Tebow actually stated that he almost chose Bama over Florida BECAUSE he didn?t like Mullen).
4- go and read up on Moorhead?s ?spilt-zone read? and ?flood? concepts........that is some seriously good stuff ?? if you can grasp it. If I was a WR prospect, I would be ALL OVER THIS GUY - because this offense will get them prepped for the NFL. great stuff.
To help you out , I linked a few picture shows to speed up your learning curve and help you acclimate to our new HC.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wm7Re_wsyGs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m-qrEeNBKTo

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s80ZDzwzmBk

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=URHo20mo9vc

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RfZRPFsZjm4


Thanks for this, the seriously look like some good picture shows. I love this hire, read the comment you are quoting. He has been my guy since day 1. You are right about one thing, though, I do hate Yankees.

NCDawg
11-29-2017, 12:27 AM
NHDawg and his 7 posts are all in on some political agenda not related to MSU football....delete this mo-fo

Totally agree.

NHDawg
11-29-2017, 12:32 AM
Totally agree.



https://media.giphy.com/media/134CbbASMeRPDa/giphy.gif

fishwater99
11-29-2017, 12:33 AM
Morehead checks like 0 boxes:

Can't relate to Southerners
Not a good recruiter
Low energy/Very Jeb-esque

Pruitt:

Country boy / southern charm
Great recruiter
High energy

Great offensive mind, very intelligent, proven former HC.
Checking right boxes.

Pruitt is an unproven idiot.

fishwater99
11-29-2017, 12:44 AM
No, Moorhead is going to be an awful head ball coach at State.

Want to wager? How do you know? Will be better on offense than under Mullen.

Dawgs87
11-29-2017, 12:44 AM
Great offensive mind, very intelligent, proven former HC.
Checking right boxes.

Pruitt is an unproven idiot.

Tbf, He's an unproven idiot with 3 rings in 3 years. Recruited CJ Moseley, Reggie Ragland, TJ Yeldon, Derrick Henry, etc. And had Top 10 defenses at FSU, UGA and Bama

Also recruited Chauncey originally and recruited Jared Maden (Jalen's brother)

Dawgs87
11-29-2017, 12:49 AM
Oh, and Saban thought enough of that unproven idiot the first time around as DB coach to name him DC the second time around.

fishwater99
11-29-2017, 01:01 AM
He doesn't know what asparagus is, seriously.

Are you really bragging about recruiting to Alabama were talking about Alabama is not very hard to recruit there
Think about it.
And Sabin the real defense of guy at Alabama, not the DC.

Dawgs87
11-29-2017, 01:11 AM
He doesn't know what asparagus is, seriously.

Are you really bragging about recruiting to Alabama were talking about Alabama is not very hard to recruit there
Think about it.
And Sabin the real defense of guy at Alabama, not the DC.

A. Tell Kirby Smart that he's an unproven idiot because Saban was the real DC. GL with that.

B. The asparagus comment was 11 years ago. Pruitt is a blue collar Alabama country boy and a damn good football coach. I would be pretty impressed if you haven't learned a single new thing in the past 11 years. I've learned a lot and endeavor to always continue to learn new things. Example, after I graduated and was married I very badly mispronounced foie gras and made a fool of myself in a 5* NE restaurant. My wife has not let me live that down to this day. I didn't grow up eating foie gras. Chill. It happens.

C. Pruitt was faltering b/c Sexton is his agent and they wanted to leverage FSU in the likely event that Jimbo leaves. We all know Cohen don't play that. Speaking of which, Jimbo was an unproven idiot Saban coordinator when he took over at FSU.

P.S. Learning new things is good.

Dawg496
11-29-2017, 06:41 AM
"he doesn't know what asparagus is"

What a pretentious comment only ole Miss fans or someone as narcissistic as coach34 would make.

Nevertheless welcome about Coach Moorehead

Mutt the Hoople
11-29-2017, 07:56 AM
Optics matter. Our fans are going to buy in if our coach can't get people excited. We aren't going to attract top-level talent with a coach that has to go on the jumbotron to ask the fans to please clap. Moorhead may be an amazing OC, but if our O-line is averaging 50 pounds lighter than other because Moorhead can only attract players from the First Presbyterian Christian High School.

Let's assume you're not a Rebel (or Tider or Aubie) troll, and you really root for Mississippi state. I don't want a head coach who's going psycho all the time. Joe Moorhead seems like a level-headed guy. Getting fired up-that's what assistants are for.

When I played at Meridian High in the late 1970's, my head coach was Mac Barnes- a very good coach, will probably be in the Mississippi Sports Hall of Fame one day. He was kind, honest, always positive, and unlike most coaches, very honest. However, he couldn't fire up a fruit fly. However, that's why he left that to my line coach, Bobby Whittington. Coach Whittington would go nuts during two a days, and after his pregame speeches we'd run through a wall for him.

Head Coaches should be smart, analytical, and always thinking 5 plays ahead. You wanting fiery coaches is the same reason Ole Miss got rid of david Cutcliffe- he just wasn't "fah-reey" enuf.

I'll take the top Offensive and Defensive Coordinators in the nation coaching our team, especially now that Ole Miss will be penalized back into the Stone Age for their absolute corruption in athletics. I trust John cohen to make the right decision...he's playing chess, while Ross Bdork is playing Candyland.